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They believe that it is supposed to have XM built-in. I think they are going to be surprised when they find out what I seem to have found out today while researching it... that Honda totally botched the marketing of the XM radio for their cars. Some come with it, and some don't. They all say they are XM Ready whether they have it fully installed or just ready for you to spend $800 on installing the rest of the stuff.
I'm hoping that when they come to the realization that the car does not have XM ability out of the box that they will give it to me. How am I supposed to know it doesn't have it if they have been looking for a day to figure out how to activate it?!?!
Bryan
Welcome to my world. The dealer I bought my car from (Poway Honda) told me it had XM. I spent several hours after I got the car home trying to get it to work, called the dealer, who now told me that XM Ready doesn't mean that it's ready for XM. The dealer told me to call Honda. Calling Honda was no help either. They logged the complaint and told me that the dealer was responsible.
So, I'll be having to file a small claims action against the dealer to get any action on this. Honda's intentional deception of the XM Ready feature (which only consists of the button on the dash and a partial wiring harness) is hardly ready.
Good luck on your fight. I'll be happy to share my findings as they arrive.
Rick
I'll post tomorrow when I find something out.
Bryan
I have a LX 2006 civic sedan. I used a, "XTR8CK Sirius Satellite Plug and Play Radio Receiver and Vehicle Kit".
It work just perfect for me. I asked a knowledge friend to hide the wire and connect to power sources.It cost me 60 dollar and monthly service.At night time the dashboard and the Sirius radio glow blue like some futuristic science. It look GREAT on my dashboard. It SOUND GREAT with my radio.
Watch out when they say "Ready". All Honda vehicle are equip for addition Honda Accessories.
Check http://www.collegehillshonda.com/civicsedan/2006_electronics.htm
I hope this site help you. Good Luck!!!
I assume all vehicle have Anti-Theft Radioas a standard. The radio ID is located with the Identification Card with the owner package kit.
I was issue with the ID that contain my radio security code, Serial Number w/the radio.
I hope this help :P
I just don't get it!
Sent the dealership an email yesterday...have yet to hear back from them. I'll have to call today to see what the status is. I smell class action law suit against Honda for their mis-marketing of this feature. If the dealerships don't understand it, how do they expect a consumer to figure it out?
Bryan
There goes my opinion of them.
Bryan
Sorry to hear that, but that is pretty much what I expected. They gave me the same run around.
I find it interesting that they (the Honda dealers) don't say a peep about XM when you are buying the car (hell they even told me it was there), but after the car is sold, boy then do they know all about the required installation.
I'm going to make an example out of the dealership I bought my car from. I'll let you know how it goes.
Cheers,
Rick
I'm just curious whether anyone has had this update performed and if it has resulted in accurate mpg readings.
Thanks!!
First, I have the Galaxy Grey paint scheme. What do ya'll think about light smoke tinting of the windows? How much should it run? Second, I am considering installing the blue interior courtesy light kit. Is this a hard mod to put in? Has anyone seen it, is it worth the trouble? And lastly, I have used 3M XPEL clear bra products for the nose & bumper of my previous cars. This stuff is EXCELLENT paint protection, but pretty pricey. Any suggestions to reasonably priced vendors?
Thanks for your time,
svalmv3
Stacey
Every buy a 'Cable ready TV' years ago? Did you seriously think cable came with it? lol.
FYI - I've forgotten more about tech than you will ever learn !!
What were talking about here is the dealership telling people that XM is installed. Please review what the definition of 'ready' is in the dictionary.
I'm sorry that your salesperson didn't explain more fully what was meant by that.
Old tech does not equal new tech so you may well have forgotten more than I will ever learn.
Anyway, for a sales person to say that you will be receiving XM when you hop in the car would obviously be wrong. Most salesmen are not that dishonest though. Some in this thread have been whiners about this whole deal. Like I said, 'Cable ready' never meant you could receive cable TV. Clearly something else was needed...heck, even a subscription just as with XM. Those who took XM ready to mean they could hop in and start receiving XM just because it said XM Ready are those I really don't have any sympathy for.
By the looks of your comments, you must be a Democrat, or a Honda saleman (or both).
For the record, the definition of 'ready' according to Webster is, " to be completely prepared or in condition for immediate action or use or progress". When you buy a cable-ready TV the expectation at the time of sale is that the TV contains the relevant hardware to be able to make use of the cable signal when you subscribe to the service. The expectation is NOT that it will have a button labeled 'cable' on the remote and nothing else.
Such is the case with the Honda Civic and their interpretation of the radio being XM ready. In fact, the stereo in the car contains no hardware to enable the reception of the XM microwave signal. The radio only contains a button on the dashboard labeled 'XM' which is connected to a pair of wires and a molex connector. The actual installation of the hardware to receive XM entails a total of 60+ steps (according to Honda's own installation manual on the net) requiring disassembly of most of the dash, center console, and trunk. Hardly what anyone would call 'ready'.
A Honda under this scenario is only 'ready' to spend another $1000.
This problem is compounded by the fact that the dealerships are telling people that all you have to do is subscribe to XM to get it working. Also, XM satellite and Honda announced in a 2006 press release that ALL Civics would have XM. There is a big distinction here between something that is 'ready' and something that is 'capable'. Honda's product is XM capable not XM ready.
The deception goes further. All Sirius ready cars come with the hardware installed. All one needs to do is activate the service. Hell, my 2006 Jeep Rubicon even came with the first-years service free!!!
My Honda dealer should be lucky that I'm only suing them in Small Claims and not lobbying for a Class Action status.
Now, about that old versus new tech stuff. What does that mean Einstein? Maybe you would like to explain how apsidal rotation and nutation affects the XM signals. Maybe you could expound on the setup of VPN using a Darwin Unix terminal. How about just explaining how a simple transistor or Op-Amp works?
Just because you know how to program the time on your VCR or know how to plug your IPOD into your car does not make you an expert in technology. You would be well suited to keep your crass comments to yourself.
Rick (an irritated, highly intellectual Honda Civic owner)
If a Class Action Lawsuit were to be filed I probably wouldn't have any merit in my complaint. No auto dealer is above some type of deception but in my opinion the buyer has an obligation to aggressively question the dealer on accessory issues. If the dealer is clearly deceitful they should be held liable but i'm still not completely convinced that the matter is worthy of a Class Action Lawsuit or that the plaintiffs' would prevail.
More likely than not the plaintiffs' lawyers would rake in millions on a settlement and the individual plaintiff would end up with a free one year subscription to XM but no XM radio.
I'd recommend just using the jack on the front and the power output next to it. You can cleanly install a portable XM or Sirius or IPOD quickly. And for much less money.
Also, just an FYI, folks that feel the same way as pissed off intellectual here have gotten free installs by using regular Honda Care National Hotline numbers without going to court
I have just bought a 4 door civic EG8 recently.However,the two front seats are pretty worn :P and I decided to get them changed for better seats.With that in mind,I have bought a pair of seats that came out of a CRX.Now I find that the sliding rails from the original seats dont fit my "new" ones. :mad:
Can anybody with any experience of doing this mod/swap give me some advise?Or does anyone know of any websites that deals with subjects like that?
I would prefer to fabricate something myself instead of spending lotsa money buying a specific seat frame for them.Thanks
You do not seem to realize that there are a whole host of products that range from autos to home theater receivers, a multitude of audio head units, XM-Ready short wave receivers, etc that are 'XM Ready' and I believe all require more than just a subscription. They do all have the necessary and required XM chipsets I believe. That's mostly where the 'ready' comes from.
Do a quick Google search and you will see that this is simply the Lingua Fanca of the industry. No one is being misled (unless we are talking about dishonest auto salesmen, but that's an entirely different matter).
If the loser in small claims court pays the cost, I think maybe you should reconsider...
The module replaced includes the odometer and later I noticed that it was on zero and not advanced to the actual mileage. That mileage was noted on the work order.
I'm curious as to whether this was an oversight or if it is physically impossible to advance the reading on a new odometer.
So far the new mpg tripmeter appears to be functioning properly and not resetting every 64 miles or so. The tripmeter reading for 135 miles was l mpg lower than my filler pipe measurement. Hopefully future readings will be as consistent
The miss guide is "Ready". The vehicle is "ready" to install more accessory only. The problems lie with the dealer or sale person did not fully explain to a average buyer. The average buyer missunderstood "XM Ready". :confuse: The problems could also lie with the buyer that didn't drill saleperson or assume it there with XM radio.
Buyers really need to be educated about something they are plunking down maybe 20 grand for--anything they would be plunking down 20 grand for, for that matter. Anyone who might rely on an auto 'salesman' for info is a fool to be honest; particularly in this information age we live in.
I balked at the $250 cost of a dealer-installed 3M clear-bra lazer-cut kit. Instead, I paid approximately $40 for a 12" X 48" strip of 3M XPEL film and applied it myself to leading edge of Civic hood. Given the curvature of the hood's leading edge, the film extends approx. 10" onto hood.
I, too, had a salesman that didn't know that 'XM Ready' really wasn't, and was assured before buying the car that all I had to do was call XM with the radio ID, and I'd be all set. (We're not all as careful a buyer or as tech savvy as leavenfish1, it seems; even the salesmen don't know as much about it as he does.)
ANYhoo, once the real deal was discovered, we talked on the phone about how much it was going to cost to install it: $796. :mad: NO. WAY.
I went back in person to discuss what they were going to do about it, and as luck would have it, there was ANOTHER new HCH owner there WITH THE SAME ISSUE. He overheard me telling the sales manager about it, came over and said he was there to discuss the exact same thing. His position was the same as mine: we're XM fans, it's important to us, and we were told it was present and ready to be activated. If we have to pay extra (especially THAT MUCH extra!) it's a deal-breaker, and they can have the cars - both his and mine - back.
They decided to keep us both as customers: they'll eat the cost, and install XM for us. (Hell, we both paid full sticker price, so they won't be losing any money.)
Bottom line: Honda doesn't seem to be informing its sales force about this rather important detail, BUT individual dealerships are dealing with it the best way they can. In my case (and my new friend's case, too), they are ordering and installing the equipment for free, and INFORMING THEIR SALESMEN to let all future customers know the real deal re: XM radio for the Navi system: it's extra, available as an option.
I was impressed; I figgered I'd have a big screamin' meemie fight over it, with me threatening small claims/BBB action, and trying to force them to take back the car and giving me a full refund. Didn't go like that AT ALL, and they're going to do the Right Thang.
I'll be coming back next model year for their Odyssey mini-van.
I'm no fool, and I resent your sniffy, snide comments, particularly as you seem to believe that 'caveat emptor' should govern all business transactions. That way lies chaos and jungle law anytime money changes hands.
In other words, THAT is foolishness.
P.S. I like TomTom navigation system better. I could carry it and connected to any vehicle. Bestly the rental car. I travel allots in US. I own a LX Civic. I LOVE my car. Beside minor defect, I could live with it. They don't build above high qualities perfection anymore. IT all massive production.
Peace!!! :shades:
Thanks,
Chintan Talati
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
But none of that was necessary. It was an honest mistake on their part (twice over; glad that guy was there at exactly the same time I was!), and they acknowledged that they had to fix it.
I was pleasantly surprised, but my approach made it easy for 'em to do the Right Thing. Start out angry, and they may just dig their heels in.
I want to, for now, replace the speakers. What speakers are recommended and how hard would it to do the job myself. Also, the Honda website says there are 6 speakers installed, I know of the 2 on the front door and the 2 on the back near the rear windshield, where are the other 2??
P.S. The dealer I went to consistantly told me I had to buy the extra equipment for the xm radio. Fortunately for me I work at a Honda factory and can get the equipment half off. Still a little high what I want to pay but it will look much better and more convenient in the dash.
Per XM Corporate website: Factory Installed!!!!!!
AMERICAN HONDA SELLS ONE MILLIONTH VEHICLE WITH FACTORY-INSTALLED XM SATELLITE RADIO
Washington D.C., May 10, 2006 -- XM Satellite Radio, America's number-one satellite radio company with more than 6.5 million subscribers, today announced that American Honda Motor Co. recently sold its one-millionth vehicle with a factory-installed XM Satellite Radio, extending XM's leadership position in the new automobile market.
American Honda is rapidly increasing the availability and volume of Honda and Acura vehicles with XM Satellite Radio. American Honda will equip more than 550,000 of its 2006 model year vehicles with XM. Honda introduced its first factory-installed XM vehicles in 2003.
"American Honda is pleased to join with our strategic partner XM Satellite Radio in celebrating the sale of our one millionth vehicle with factory-installed XM," said John Mendel, senior vice president of automobile operations, American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "XM provides our customers with an enormous variety of entertainment and information as they travel from coast to coast, and XM NavTraffic is critical to our advanced navigation capabilities."
"Honda is one of the world's most successful automakers, and our partnership with American Honda is a fundamental part of XM's success. This milestone underscores how XM is the leading provider of satellite radio for the automobile industry, as well as the market leader in satellite radio overall," said Hugh Panero, president and CEO, XM Satellite Radio.
XM is a factory-installed feature on the 2006 models of Motor Trend's Car of the Year Honda Civic and Truck of the Year Honda Ridgeline, as well as other Honda models, including Pilot, Accord, Accord Hybrid, Odyssey, and Element. In addition, XM is standard, factory-installed equipment on all Acura RL, TL, TSX and MDX models. Acura recently announced that XM will also be a factory-installed standard feature of the all-new 2007 Acura RDX Sport Utility Vehicle.
Here the website that will help you. Look for "Bass System Kit". Check pdf file guide.
http://collegehillshonda.com/civichybrid/2006_hybrid_electronics.htm
Here a good website that picture to guide you.
http://www.8thcivic.com/DIY/speaker-install/rear_speaker_install.html
This website is very good in my opinion. It help you install almost everything people want now on their Civic 2006.
Good Luck!! :shades:
The best way to figure it ready to activate with XM radio. Look for XM antennae(1"x1.5" size).
The only vehicle that is standard from base on your quote is "In addition, XM is standard, factory-installed equipment on all Acura RL, TL, TSX and MDX models. "
I hope this help
P.S. I sworn I post this message before :P
I assume you have EX Civic Sedan 06, if Si, it ok, because all EX model should have XM/CD radio already in there vehicle. What everyone is missing is the " XM Tuner Kit Unit". It locate back in th trunk side of the vehicle.
Look for antennae (1"x1.5" size) black box shape. It stick onto your front driver side top corner of windshield.
It sometime stick onto top roof near the back window too.
If you happen to see the antennae. You one LUCKY soul that already set to activate your XM radio. :P
Do a google search for " Honda civic 2006". There is a site or forum fully explain to you step by step setup, picture too.
Hope this help bud
BTW...I have a $40 RoadyXT that plugs directly into the Aux in...the sound is awesome!
We understand how you feel about this, but if people want to discuss how they feel about it here, let's let them, okay?
...and I pointed out that XM can say what ever they want, their stock is not that highly rated so they will 'say' lots of thins.
But Honda is not saying this!
Where the people 'wanting something for nothing' comes in is when I hear people complaining that they purchased a Honda expecting XM to be ready to go when they turned on their radio...then complaining to the dealerships and wanting it. Again, dishones sales men are one thing, and I'm not talking about that. People however do seem to want XM for nothing when XM when they are not entitled to it. You get tired of hearing people go on and on about this!
I've also presented a simple and CHEAP solution. The sound is excellent...and you can even take the unit in your home and listen if you like.
I'm planning to remove my automatic steering console this weekend to install auxiliary Jack. Base all the info. I gather from the internet. It look very simple enough. Then hope to have the Ipod connect to it. :shades: