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  • steverstever Posts: 52,683

    I don't know how the heck we're going to downsize to an xB, much less a Soul. This load is just for a 3 night camping trip and I haven't even loaded the cooler or our clothes and other odds and ends yet.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 12,549

    Ah, Steve....

    Know thyself.

    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683

    For the first time since 1974, I don't own a canoe at least. :-)

    CX-5 nice, manual transmission xB meh, Soul nice, Forester - wife thought it was a bit trucky.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 31,088

    the CX-5 is a really nice driving piece.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 22,861

    @[email protected] said:
    For the first time since 1974, I don't own a canoe at least. :-)

    ... Soul nice, ,,,

    You're not going to get all that camping equipment I see in the picture
    into a Soul. I see a couple owned by a nearby surveying company when
    they stop at the local quick market where I get my coffee. They have
    the back area filled with equipment and what looks like file cabinets.
    But no canoe on top and all that stuff inside.

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    edited May 2014

    @stickguy, my wife complained that I slung her around too much in the roundabout in the CX-5. The one we drove had the bigger tires so that may have been part of it (and it looks like it has a higher center of gravity). I'd like to look at it again. She thought it had the best driver's seat of all of them.

    @imidazol97, the canoe is gone but hauling bikes will be an issue. Have to get a hitch mount for the next ride most likely, since a sunroof is a want. We're going to try to see a Jetta Sportwagen and an Equinox this morning. (Oh, I haven't lost my packing touch since my Bug and Tercel days, not to mention living out of a canoe for 3 weeks. The big duffle for example is bedding and the sleeping bags would compress down to the size of a fireplace log or couch bolster. Just takes more time to pack up in the mornings).

  • fintailfintail Posts: 46,804

    I think Steve needs to find...an Aztek

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 22,861

    @fintail said:
    I think Steve needs to find...an Aztek

    I'd suggest an extended van like the Chevy that out scout troop bought that carries 15 people with all the seats in. Remove the seats and voila you have a huge cargo space. I know because I removed the seats to haul the entire popcorn order for the troop back from the central distribution point in the van.

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • fintailfintail Posts: 46,804

    That could work. Act now while nice newer ones still exist. In the not too distant past, they made 4WD models too, might help in camping. However, I think the other half didn't want something "trucky" - a big old fashioned van is pretty much a truck. But if you want to haul like a truck, you might have to adapt.

    @imidazol97 said:

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 96,638

    @fintail said:
    That could work. Act now while nice newer ones still exist. In the not too distant past, they made 4WD models too, might help in camping. However, I think the other half didn't want something "trucky" - a big old fashioned van is pretty much a truck. But if you want to haul like a truck, you might have to adapt.

    They make a commercial version of the Grand Caravan .. that might work.

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  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    edited May 2014

    Downsizing folks. :D I used to backpack before I learned that you see good country letting canoes carry the gear, so I still know how to cut handles off toothbrushes.

    Good car dealers in Madison. Tested a Chevy Equinox which was nice and comfy. Roomy enough. Didn't like the engine response. Would blame it on computer learning but next we drove a Ford Escape.

    Since we have no plans to tow, we opted to drive the 1.6l. We were both quite impressed with how peppy and responsive it was. The moonroof was a let down - started too far back for the driver to really enjoy it.

    Still liking the Soul but you'll never guess what the deal-killer may be. The lack of a spare tire. Most of the other vehicles we've looked at have a "full size" compact spare and a couple have room to swap out a real tire for the compact spare. My wife has visions of being stuck in the boonies with a destroyed sidewall with no cell coverage. Can't imagine why, that's only happened to us 3 or 4 times. [edit - apparently a space saver tire is available as an accessory for the Soul. Stupid expensive - $200, even if you find one from an older Soul on eBay and at used tires shops. So it's back on the table. :p]

    We also sat in a Jetta Sportwagen and had a fun chat with the salesperson there. It's got the cubes, but it's like our Outback, the space is long but not high enough for what we think we'd prefer. Sure would be easy getting stuff on the roof though.

    So, today's favorite and leading candidate is the Escape, but I told my wife to research the My Touch. At least it has dual climate controls and those are real buttons.

    Have to say that the process is so much less painful than 15 years ago. Only heard "what can we do to sell you a car today" one time. There were a couple of "green peas" who seemed a bit lost, but overall the salespeople were knowledgeable and not pushy and free with the numbers.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 31,088

    Steve, Hyunkia does that on all their smaller cars at least (not sure about Sonata and Santa Fe). The tire is an option, but that price also includes the jack parts. I wouldn't feel comfortable with runflats, and no way in heck am I driving with just a can of fix a flat and a weak pump backing me up.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,136

    @Stever Don't think your bikes are going to fit inside an Escape. If you get the 2.0, you can get the towing package and use the rear receiver for a bike rack. We have a Sears XCargo box that fits well on the factory cross bars.

    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683

    That's pretty much going to be the case with most any of the rides we are looking at.

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683

    Found a snap of the used SuperBeetle I had in 1980.

  • slorenzenslorenzen Posts: 694

    Well, it's a ride, isn't it?

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 12,549

    What is that gizmo over the top; is it some sort of anchoring mechanism?

    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683

    Wakeboard setup?

  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,302


    My 1989 Cadillac Brougham

    My 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 46,804

    That Brougham is a classy old beast, yours is probably the best cared for in the country.

  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516

    Current wheels: 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 Quad Cab 4x4 dually, Cummins diesel

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,136

    @kcram Getting ready to pull that house somewhere?

    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516

    I could, but then where would I live?

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 20,027
    edited May 2014

    2001 BMW 330Ci>

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 20,027

    2000 BMW 528iA, now at 153K miles and still running strong.>

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 11,835

    Nice!!!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 20,027

    Thanks RB. You should let me know if you ever decide to sell that 2002A.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 11,835

    Will do!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,855

    I sort of forgot to add the 89 Cadillac Allante pic. The Bosch III brakes were it's demise, but still a good looking car. 2 tops and you had to bend down to fill the gas tank.

    2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 11,835

    An engineer friend of mine worked at GM back when the Allante was new; he said that it just barely passed the applicable Federal crash standards. He said he wouldn't even let his wife ride in one...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

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