Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon

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  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    cino,

    while the WRX might not torque steer you most certainly can light up the inside front due while cornering due to the lack of a limited-slip differential. a factory helical (torsen/quaife) front LSD would be really great.

    -Colin
  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    In this years Consumers Report, Subaru tied Toyota and beat Honda for least problems for a year old car.
    Having been brought up in a Honda family and been burned big time by Acura -admittedly it was their first year of existence but its only a Honda with a different name tag!). I can say after just buying my 4th Subaru. You won't be sorry getting a Subaru. At least statistically!
  • stoner420stoner420 Member Posts: 165
    It was pouring here all day long and I didn't go out, and did a bunch more reading on edmunds, and the altima seems to be in a similar class.. bigger but the v6 is 240hp, weight about the same as wrx wagon and around $26k with good options (same as wrx), and it seems nice overall too. I didn't care much for the previous generation altima, but they say this is totally new, and it looks pretty cool, so I'm thinking of taking one for a test drive too.

    Anyone have any opinions on this?
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I have a friend in Chicago who totalled his WRX (turning left, someone ran the light from opposite direction) and he replaced it with an Altima 3.5SE.

    Straightline speed is decent, but not the same. There's no turbo lag, but the Altima doesn't have a limited-slip differential so it is handicapped in its ability to use that 240HP.

    Handling isn't the same either in my opinion, having driven both-- although the Altima only once and the WRX a few times.

    -Colin
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Gotta agree with Colin. The Altima has some decent specs, but a completely different beast IMO. It's targeted more towards competing with family sized sedans rather than pocket rockets.

    Haven't driven an Altima, but I haven't been impressed with the quality of materials used on it.

    Ken
  • cinosweivecinosweive Member Posts: 166
    locke2c:

    "while the WRX might not torque steer you most certainly can light up the inside front due while cornering due to the lack of a limited-slip differential"

    I'm not sure what you mean by "light up". I haven't noticed any problems - but I guess w/out a front lsd they steering may have a tendency to straighten during hard cornering?
  • beezerbeezer Member Posts: 7
    just picked up my silver wrx wagon (automatic) this past weekend. having lots of trouble keeping my foot off of the gas for that infamous "break-in" period!

    anyway, i've heard that the subies have "thin" paint and are susceptible to chipping more easily.

    my quesion is, does subaru (or any other aftermarket company) make a hood deflector or anything like that? i don't want to get a bra because they tend to scuff up the hood.

    any information would be great!
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    cino,

    you haven't driven it hard enough yet. when exiting a corner if you stomp the gas, the WRX has enough power anywhere above 3k rpm to spin the inside front tire. (doesn't matter which way you're turning.) this will make the car understeer and you'll probably feel some knockback in the steering wheel.

    when driving very hard-- usually at an autocross-- I can spin the inside front with my lowly 2.5L.

    -Colin
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    stoner - Check the New England chapter at http://www.i-club.com/forums

    You'll probably find more folks in CT there to ask about sales experiences.


    -Dennis

  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    A hood deflector is not recommended for the WRX as the placement interferes with the airflow into the intercooler, in turn, affecting engine performance in a negative way. Check out Stongard. It's a clear film that is cut specifically to fit one's car. The paint is allowed to age along w/the rest of the car. They have a website.

    Stephen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Altima pros: much roomier back seat, better throttle response, still quite fast.
    Altima cons: not as fast, major torque steer, clunky shift action, overboosted steering.

    WRX pros: actually rides better IMO, boost feels wonderful, better steering, AWD with no torque steer, smooth shifter.
    WRX cons: smaller, and...umm, I'm thinking...

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    PS Neither interior is that impressive, so I don't consider that an advantage either way. The WRX does feel more rigid, though.
  • nixomosenixomose Member Posts: 95
    I'm not sure I see the purpose of a sedan anymore (I used to hate hatchbacks, now I won't buy anything but)
    I bought my 2002 wrx wagon 3 weeks ago, for $22,500, and I have carbuyingtips.com to thank for it. I highly recommend giving that whole site a good sit down and read.

    The wagon is as mentioned before $500 cheaper, I can't imagine why, but driving both felt nearly the same from what I could tell from the test drives.
    But the wagon is space wise infinetly more fillable.
    I bought mine in yorktown NY, but I went to the stamford CT dealer and he let me take a wrx sedan for a test drive with my friend (no salesman along on the trip.) The car had 140miles on it and he TOLD ME to keep the RPMS above 3000 to feel the turbo. Hey, I just did what the man said. And he gave me lots of info and didn't pressure me one bit. (but no I didn' buy the car from him)
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    Bought a basketball set for Michael on Friday from Target. Absolutely no problems get the box in..approx 38 inches across, four feet long, and heavy. In the last month or so, I've had the opportunity to use the space, first for all the mulch, and now the set. As the old knight in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" said..."you chose wisely!"
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'm still trying to talk my wife into a wagon...

    -juice
  • beezerbeezer Member Posts: 7
    i noticed on my wrx automatic wagon that it doesn't have the aluminum sport pedals. do they only come on the sedan or just on the 5-speed models?
  • hunter001hunter001 Member Posts: 851
    The Aluminium pedals come only on the manual models.

    Later...AH
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    You can get the pedals from a dealer and put them on if you like. :-) I've seen them on www.subaruparts.com and such.

    Stephen
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    but while I bet the gas pedal fits, I'd be surprised if the automatic's brake pedal is the same size as the manual. usually automatic brake pedals are larger.

    and obviously, you make the clutch pedal a paperweight. ;-)

    -Colin
  • stoner420stoner420 Member Posts: 165
    I'm getting *this* much closer to making a definite decision... the main things that are worrying me now are the clutch and abs brake issues, have been reading i-club and there seems to be some non-trivial amount of concern with these things.. (brakes being the biggest concern, don't want to move to a rally car that can't stop over bumps?!)

    (guess I will definitely head over to the stamford dealer for a test drive too, tho ;-)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    There is one guy at the Stamford dealer who is a total tool. He is a real cocky SOB, not sure of his name, but was up at a TSD rally with some highly modified WRX and was ragging on my XT6, my uncle was driving the XT6 for the first section which is un-timed and he used to race cars in sicily and spanked him on his wee-wee with the XT6 AT v. his MT "modified" WRX, the guy felt real dumb afterward.

    -mike
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    I especially like the paperweight idea! LOL!

    Stephen
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    You can get auto pedals from a few web sites.
    IIRC, cobbtuning.com has STi pedals for the auto. They're pink though. :-)

    -Dennis
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    you know they/re not "pink", they're "cherry blossom red". LOL!

    Stephen
  • keithllb1keithllb1 Member Posts: 30
    I was hoping for some quality links on reputable aftermarket upgrades on the WRX Wagon, ie side moldings and suspension,sway bars etc., Thanks.
    Keith.
  • himilerhimiler Member Posts: 1,209
    Body-side mouldings www.sportwing.com
  • wrxdriverwrxdriver Member Posts: 6
    I have aftermarket leather seats. They were dealer installed, and have perforated panels on the sides for the in-seat airbag. It never occurred to me to ask for heated seats. (I should have done more research!) but I don't think that the local subie dealer does very much aftermarket. I have to say that the leather isn't as grippy or as good for aggressive driving, but I decided to compromise a little bit for the sake of luxury. I have been very happy with the seats so far. The car looks totally different- more like an RSX or something. The installer also installed leather door panels for me.
    The process involves taking the seats out, taking them to an outside location, and sewing on new leather. I believe this is totally custom because I was given a ring of maybe 40 color samples to choose from- there is no way that they could have so much stock for a low volume car. The process took about four days, while I was away on a business trip. I paid $1200, which is probably overpaying, but the hassle factor was zero. I figure that I probably could have gotten them for $800-$900, but it would have been difficult to deal with.

    Now all I need is a good set of aftermarket speakers...

    Josh
  • dill6dill6 Member Posts: 120
    I've had my 5 sp silver wagon for 6mos/8K mi. now, and sadly I have to report some big negatives. First, whenever I exit the car I seem to have picked up a static charge from the seats so that I get a shock from the first grounded thing I touch. This is causing me to become jumpy and afraid to touch things.

    Second, though I drive like a bat out of h**l, I can't get the mileage to dip below 20 mpg. I feel somehow unworthy of sharing the road with the Excursions and Suburbans that are so popular around here. What can I do to lower the gas mileage?

    Finally, the stereo doesn't sound anything like I'm inside a finely tuned concert hall. I actually have several thousand dollars worth of stereo gear in my living room, but I prefer to listen in the car. Listening to music on the couch is too relaxing, and I fall asleep.

    Somebody help me out! I'm beginning to wonder if I made a huge mistake. The other car I was considering was the Lincoln Navigator. Maybe I should have gone with that.
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
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  • mikenkmikenk Member Posts: 281
    OK, here's a plan.

    On your first problem, attach a heavy metal chain to your leg that will drag on the ground. This will solve the static charge problem. The extra weight will also help your second problem.

    On your second and third problems, I would suggest a trailer with a couple of high end speakers (~500 lbs ea). Use the back storage space for the electronics. The extra weight and drag should make it feel like a Navigator with similar mileage. the stereo should be AWESOME; you would probably have to crank it up to hear it.

    Hope this helps. Send a picture.

    Mike
  • keithllb1keithllb1 Member Posts: 30
    already got 1 speeding ticket...Ayh Caramba!!!
    I have heard that the Valentine 1 is the best detector out there, but some people might argue that the new Escort is just as good in detecting the newer bands police are using, and is a little cheaper, has anyone out there have any experiences they might like to share, any info. would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Get a cb like a lot of the i-clubbers in the tri-state area. They are far better than radar detectors as they warn you MILES in advance of a Bear's Position. :)

    -mike
  • gotwrxgotwrx Member Posts: 52
    you can get a faster start if you get the rev's up before releasing the clutch. But is does tend to smoke it a bit if you don't quite....do....it.... right...errr.

    She didn't tell me what her 0 to 60 time was but she had a big smile on her face. I don't think I want to know.

    She was doing me a favor getting the WRX's oil changed, its first, on a dealer freebee. Guess it got boring.

    And she said the WRC blue was too young for me!

    Tim
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    CBs I'm sure are excellent on highways, not so sure about around town or in neighborhoods, as you won't likely find truckers (who are the primary users of CBs) to warn you.

    I have a Valentine 1, and it is very good. I like the fact that it gives you an indication as to whether the radar is in front of you, or behind you. However, a lot of police use the "instant-on" technique, so having a radar detector is by no means a guarantee you won't get stopped. I know from experience, as I was once a victim of the instant-on technique. My detector caught it, but it was too late to slow down, and I got nabbed.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    True, CBs are better on the interstates rather than around town. But should you be speeding around town anyway? :)

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    but everybody does.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Ground yourself before you get out. Swap the speakers. Drive like paisan.

    LOL

    -juice
  • dill6dill6 Member Posts: 120
    Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I really like the chain idea - I was going to go back to the full-body aluminum foil suit I used to wear before the arrest, but its so hard to keep it all in place, and its hot too, esp. in the summer.

    Love the trailer idea - I think I'll let some air out too, maybe run around 10 lbs. or so per tire. Ride, handling, mileage, should all be much more Navigator-like!

    Sorry if I've confused some of you with my "issues" - I'm actually much better now than before, thanks to the medication!

    OK, I'll stop now...sorry.
  • jaserbjaserb Member Posts: 820
    or, you can just drill a 1/16" hole in the bottom of your gas tank...
    Bill, you crack me up - especially the fact that so many people thought you were serious!
    BTW, looks like my blue wagon is on hold for now. There wasn't a single one in the state when I went shopping. I ended up spending my down payment on an Alfa Spider - tons of fun in its own way, and no car payment. I may regret it this fall as I start commuting up to the U, but hey, it's spring!

    -Jason (back to lurking...)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Saw a gorgeous blue WRX wagon yesterday, 5 speed even. My wife will test drive one and I'm praying she loves it.

    She wants a bigger car. Not me.

    -juice
  • dill6dill6 Member Posts: 120
    Thanks, just trying have some fun here at "work".
    If I have a regret about my WRX its that I didn't have the nerve to get the blue one. At the time I thought it was just too loud, but now, having seen a few on the road, I like its unique "Subaru-ness". The silver paint will probably hold up better though.
    Have fun with that Alfa - my other favorite car I've had was an Alfa 1750 GTV. And, it was really quite reliable, despite its reputation.
  • jaserbjaserb Member Posts: 820
    it's kind of the "signature color" for the WRX. I love my silver Alfa, but sometimes wish it was "Alfa Red". If we have a really rotten winter this year I may end up in the Subie anyway, since I don't really fancy going up the point of the mountain in the Spider during a snowstorm. My wife is sick of me drooling every time I see a blue wagon!

    -Jason
  • brekkebrekke Member Posts: 304
    before getting out of the car? Joking aside, I get a nasty charge myself when exiting.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    place your hand anywhere on the metal of the car before you leave contact with the seat and keep it there as you exit.

    the door sill works well for this.

    -Colin
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    the car isn't grounded? Or is it?

    -Dave
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    No, the tires act as insulators. That's the reason why there is static electricity build up in the first place.

    The car's electical systems are grounded in reference to the battery.

    Ken
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    thanks Ken :)
    Kinda odd... ground to discharge static, but ground with a live wire get you the buzz :D

    Sofar, I haven't experience static discharge with my OB. Probably Fabric vs Leather.

    -Dave
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Well, I just tried the holding on to the door sill tip given by Colin last night and guess what -- no zap! Makes sense.

    Ken
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