Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon

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  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    Has anyone got those mesh filters which cover up the fog lights? Don't they reduce the light considerably?? And how easy are they to clean off?

    also thinking about getting the Forester 2 cup holder for the rear, Subaruwrxparts.com say it definitely fits a WRX, just wrong color - only comes in grey. Anyone done that yet??I know some people have gone to England to get the WRX ones but thats a little excessive!

    Whats the low down on the clutch shudder fix, seems some people are happy and some not so happy after the fix. Mine is getting to be a daily first thing in the morning thing.
  • beanboybeanboy Member Posts: 442
    Sorry guys, it was the up pipe I was thinking of, the cat before the turbo. Looks like that's on the list as well as a very close second to exhaust.

    Hmm, wish I could ride in a WRX with the mods to boost the low-end, wonder if it is enough for me...

    -B
  • jmgregory5jmgregory5 Member Posts: 48
    cptplt, I got the replica sti mesh covers, unpainted and painted the whole assembly, including the mesh platinum silver to match my wagon. I thought that keeping the mesh black just seemed to look unfinished.

    The fog lights, as is, don't do a whole lot, except light the area just in front of the car, so I figured I wasn't going to notice much difference - which I don't. It does alter the look of the car however, which you may or may not like. I think it looks cleaner with them on. I really got them after a rock decided to shatter the drivers side fog. I didn't want to have to go through the insurance claim again.

    Of course, the next rock that decided to hit my car put a nice dent and scratch on the hood.

    John
  • snead_csnead_c Member Posts: 64
    John, I had the same experience 6 weeks after buying my WRX. It was a real downer but it got me over the fear hump...at least now any scratches won't be the FIRST !
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    I had my clutch replaced. My car was a 2002, and cars built in most of 2002 and earlier had an issue with glazing over the clutch.

    I have been extremely happy with the replacement. Not only do I no longer have any shuttering of my clutch, but the shifting has become much more smooth.
  • andmoonandmoon Member Posts: 320
    kens, Thanks for the link. That is exactly what I mean by different answers. Cobbtuning claims there is no real gain with changing the uppipe in the <280hp range. All these guys seem to know their stuff so the confusion continues. So far I really am pleased with cobb's reflash. I guess experimentation is the only clear answer provider.

    Anybody actually have either a subaru or hiddenhitch hitch on their wagon?

    Don
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    I have the UK OEM optional foglight covers. They're clear and they're easy to install and remove.
    A friend of mine picked them up a dealer for me in the UK, but SPI Motorsports carries them:
    http://www.spimotorsports.com

    He also picked up the rear cupholder for me as well. Some dealers might ship it. IIRC, someone purchased one here:
    http://www.acekensington.co.uk/
    Cost is 40 pounds and you can see it on subaru.co.uk. You can see the foglight covers there as well.

    One of these days I'll take some pics.

    -Dennis
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    Thanks for the links, bluesubie. At $32 for the clear fog lenses, the price sounds just fine to me. I called the dealer and they quoted me $395.94 to replace just one fog!!
    Yikes!! can that be right? Looks like I'll putting in an order for those lenses ASAP.
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    They come with a "tool" (plastic wrapped cardboard) that you're supposed to use similar to a shoe horn to prevent scratches inside of your light housing.

    I found that it's better not to use the tool, as I snapped one of the side clamps of the cover trying to force it in. It still holds pretty well even though it's broken.

    As for the price of a new foglight, this is subaruparts.com price:
    $115.60 Fog light assembly-front right
    $115.60 Fog light assembly-front left
    $15.20 Bulb-head & fog light h3,12v-55w
    $6.24 Bracket-license lamp
    $8.17 Bracket-fog light front right
    $8.17 Bracket-fog light front left
    $27.00 Socket complete-fog light front

    So retail price + labor = expensive. :-)

    -Dennis
  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    thanks for all the info. I think some sort of cover is definitely needed for the fogs.

    John - are the STi mesh covers a glossy or matt black? My car is black anyway so I probably won't need to do any painting. I may get the replica ones which don't have the STi logo and are a hundred bucks cheaper!

    Funny but clutch was ok today, but then it was also 80deg! When I go for a major service will have them check it out.
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    :(
    Seems like there's some gliche on SPI's OnLine Catalogue that I can't get my order through :(

    -Dave
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    I've been waiting a couple of weeks for my dealer to locate a 5-speed silver '04 WRX wagon w/ premium sound in the northern NJ area. Apparently premium sound in a silver wagon is a toughie around here. He has finally located the car, but (of course) it has a bunch of options that I would not choose to order but might like to have.

    Anyone care to share their thoughts and experiences about the following?:

    Short throw shifter - I figure this is unnecessary but might be nice(?) I've read that there might be some vibration issues with the unit.

    Auto-dimming rear view mirror - Almost useless? I might be wrong - the WRX is low-slung and may be prone being blinded from behind by SUV headlights like my Civic Si was.

    Alarm system - yuck. I hate these noisy things. Might be a nice break on the insurance though.

    The rest of the equipment in the car is stuff I want (armrest, cargo goodies, crossbars).

    I cannot wait to get my WRX!

    -jim
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    short throw shifter is nice.

    premium sound still sucks in my not-so-humble opinion, but if you liked it in another soob on the lot then by all means... I'd personally save the money and install a real system, but then again I own a lot of $ worth of home and carfi, so is that a surprising opinion?

    -Colin
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Short Throw - can't share anything. I got a chook-a-matic

    Auto-dimming - I passed on that. Thought they were bulky and in the way of my line of sight. Remedied the SUV blinding with tints.

    Alarm System - Like you said. But you can permanently silent arm/disarm. That's just about the only good thing about it, besides an insurance break.

    Premium Sound - not the best, but tolerable.

    -Dave
  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    never had one before till this WRX, I swear its the best thing since sliced bread!
  • stoner420stoner420 Member Posts: 165
    Let me just take a moment to congratulate all of the recent new WRX wagon owners, and more especially those who selected that most sublime of all colors, red. A fine choice, indeed. (Somehow I find the red looks excellent on the wagon, but is not quite as good a match for the sedan...)

    17000 miles on my 2002 5mt, and running strong! I just recently put in a K&N air filter and Continental ContiExtremeContact tires (16"), and loving it! You will too!

    One suggestion to red owners: replace the stock orange corner markers with clear ones (~$30), it will improve the look of your vehicle dramatically.
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    especially from the rear. We have mostly silver and blue here in Denver, and some black--red and white are rare.

    It would be fun to know how many bug-eyed wagons total were produced for 02-03, and how many in each color. My guess--about 16,000 total (of which must be about 12,000 silver ones like mine ;-)
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Short throw shifter: Try the regular shifter before ordering one. The WRX standard shifter is not bad at all. Also, know the trade off of increased shifting force and more NVH transmitted through the shifter column with STS'.

    Auto-dim: It works well, but takes a second to react to bright headlights. If you are going to tint your windows (which would be a good idea with a wagon) then the mirror is a bit redundant.

    Alarm: Might as well since the keyless entry that comes standard is more than half the alarm system anyway.

    Ken
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    Colin-

    I hear what you're saying about going aftermarket with the stereo, but if there's one thing I know it's this: I will NEVER upgrade the audio system once I drive off the lot! I know this because it's been my intention on a number of vehicles I've owned and it simply has never happened. That goes for tinting, too.

    I guess once I spend all that money on a new car I get cheap for a little while. During that period I learn to live with what I have and I never get around to customizing anything. At least I know that about myself and can take steps so I don't suffer with the stock audio system (as I am now with my Forester, which I intended to upgrade and never did - not even by adding the tweeters!)

    So my motto is this: Older, wiser, and no customizer!

    Sad but true.

    -jim
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    Ken-

    I tried the regular shifter during my test drive and found it to be more than adequate. Actually, the whole car was perfect except for the color - black :(

    I've had a black car before and no longer have the energy to keep one clean. Silver looks good dirty!

    Dealer says the car should be there tomorrow barring any unforseen problems (they're swapping with another dealer so for all I know someone else bought my car tonight and is driving it home!). If all works out, I plan on taking the car for an extended test drive before purchasing it. One of the things I'll be looking for is the NVH coming through the STS. My Civic Si had a rather "communicative" shifter which I found to be acceptable. We'll see.

    Thanks to all for you input. I'm trying to stay objective, but I've got a real itch to get this car!

    -jim
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Ooooo... the WRX might change all that ;-)

    Tint: get in touch with leeberbs @ NASIOC. He does tints for the Tri-State. You could arrange for him to come to you.

    Everything else: keep your eyes peeled on "For Sale" their [NASIOC] classified. You could come up with a steal, like the MOMO steering wheel w/airbag for $75 I got for the L :D

    -Dave
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
  • jmgregory5jmgregory5 Member Posts: 48
    Although my comprehensive insurance policy would have covered the labor to install the replacement fog light, I wanted to do it myself. All you need is a 10mm sock with an extension. It literally took me 5 minutes to complete the swap.

    It didn't need any aiming either - I actually think the replacement is better aimed than the other original light.

    John
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    jim,

    After having owned two black cars, I've had it too. I want my next vehicle to be metallic dirt.

    So tomorrow might be the big day -- how exciting! A silver WRX wagon does sound pretty tasty to me.

    The upside to having everything done by the dealer in terms of options and upgrades is that 1) you can bundle it in with your financing (if you're not paying cash) and 2) it's covered by warranty.

    Ken
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Dave - If you're still having a problem with SPI, send them a PM on nasioc.

    Re the auto-dimming mirror. I love it mainly for the compass. It saved us from going the wrong direction in the Catskills last fall. I recently tinted the rear with 35% (leeberbs) and the mirror still does it's job dimming from the bright lights.

    If a car has some options that you do not want, the dealer should throw some of them in for free.
    My friend got a free spoiler because he didn't want one.

    Ken - You're that close to getting a new car?? Cool!

    -Dennis
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    with the WRX. Tinting is the first thing I might consider. Does anyone (especially Lee) know what the legal limit is for tint in NJ? I'm too old to be pulled over by the cops for my tint!

    Also, what does a good tint job cost these days? (all windows I assume?).

    He slowly dips his big toe in...

    -jim
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Nothing is allowed on the windshield and nothing is "allowed" on the front window's (driver and front passenger).

    My wife and I both had 50% installed on the front windows and a few folks here have gone with 35% on the front.

    We got a deal on both cars so I'm not sure on what your cost would be.

    -Dennis
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    Dennis,

    I'm assuming that you haven't been ticketed for your tint. I figure no police officer is going to pull me over for tint, but they might issue a ticket for tint if I've been stopped for other reasons.

    Of course I haven't been pulled over for more than ten years, but I figure the WRX might change all that!

    -jim
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Jim-
    I'd put up some pics of Pebbles over in Photo Gallery.
    I got tints and clear bra done by lee. Tints are 35% all around except windshield. You can see that at certain angle it's dark, whilst another it appears light. With the wagon, going 50% front should appear like 70% :)

    Dennis-
    I got the gliche fixed and made the order. Thanks :)

    -Dave
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    Here's one guy's idea of what to do with a silver wagon. (You can click on any picture for a full size view.) The final result is seen in picture # 8. =)

    (Makofoto's) Silver WRX wagon

    I believe this car won a show prize at the Rim of the World rally.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Dennis,

    I'm getting there. With child care costs looming ahead of us, we need to pay off my wife's car first before I get my new ride. It should be less than a year from now. The WRX wagon is on my shopping list.

    Ken
  • btimmons710btimmons710 Member Posts: 8
    I took my wagon in this morning for 15k service and also to hopefully get the replacement clutch. I was told by the dealer that Subaru was very specific and certain "symptoms" had to be observed before they could do the work. Was this the case for you too? I've heard conflicting reports over at NASIOC of people who had the replacement put in without a service tech even driving the car. I don't want to ruffle feathers with my local service department by involving SOA, but I don't want my teeth to rattle out of my head waiting for them to replicate the problem. Shouldn't the TSB be enough? Anybody else enjoying "judder-free" morning starts?
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    looks nice - privacy but not too dark.

    So I guess Lee does good work, eh?

    Look at me, lining up the tint guy before I even hear from the dealer that he has it.

    The wait is KILLING ME!!

    I should know within two hours. tick...tick...tick...

    -jim
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    No car for me today!!

    My dealer called to inform me that the swap manager at the other dealership "was processing the paperwork, fell over and broke his leg and was rushed to the hospital."

    I've known my dealer for over a year and trust him (as far as you can trust a dealer), but this stretches the capacity of my imagination!! Is he lying to me? Are they lying to him? Is my WRX CURSED!? It boggles the mind.

    We're going to try again tomorrow. Assuming no one is decapitated by the paperwork, that is. Now THAT would be a paper cut!

    I'm so bummed.

    -jim
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    I was told that they would not replace the clutch without the "shudder" symptoms showing. Luckily for me, it was a cold day, and they were able to reproduce the shudder (which was actually pretty severe in my car right after startup).

    Usually, they will let the car sit for a while to let it cool down, then try it out.
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    bluesubie--you mentioned easier shifting when you put this in recently. Were you using OEM before or another synthetic?

    Also, have you noticed any improvement in that peculiar tranny deceleration noise many owners report? (Sounds like a rough-edged exhaust note when you back off the throttle, only coming from the tranny.) Thanks for any feedback you may have on this.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Just make sure to pull down both front windows if you get pulled over! Then they won't even know they are tinted! :)

    I went with 35% all around on the SVX, no problems so far.

    -mike
  • cvillatricvillatri Member Posts: 3
    I've got the shudders too! Definately when it's cold. However, it being 100 degree here for the next few months (Fresno, CA) I may have to wait till winter to get this to duplicate at the dealer. Still will be under warranty, so should be ok. Glad (just a figure of speech) to hear other had this, so I can prove it's not bad owner habits.
  • andmoonandmoon Member Posts: 320
    Got my rota wheels w/ 215 nittos and the ride isn't that far off stock. There is a little more tire noise at cruise. The wagon feels like it has less roll...may be the tires are not rolling over onto the sidewalls. Down side is that it now really follows grooves and crowns on the road.

    Anyone have a tow hitch on their wagon? I need to carry bikes and I use the roof to transport the bike trailer so I am thinking of a hitch carrier but I'd like to know if a hitch actually fits.

    Don
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Jim - I just had mine installed a little while ago. I've received some looks from cops, but that's it. A few of the "younger" nasioc guys told me, "Ah, don't worry about it. You're older (36) and you drive a wagon." :-)
    The sales manager should have stepped in and taken over the paperwork. My sales guy was out when my car came in, but the manager processed everything himself.

    Dave - Good news about the covers. Make sure you're very gentle because they snap easily.

    rexaroo - I was using OEM gear oil. Previously, I used Amsoil (regular synth, not Series 2000) in my OBS. I'm very happy with both. The decel noise improved a little. A day after I put in the Motul, there was a post about GL4 and GL5 on nasioc's Transmission Forum. It's an interesting post and talks about the tests used for gear oils.

    Don - Enjoy your wheels/tires! Do a search in the general WRX forum on nasioc for posts about hitches. I think there may be a couple of people here. Not sure though

    Gosh I'm blabbing this morning. :-)

    -Dennis
  • saintvipersaintviper Member Posts: 177
    I've seen a trailer hitch attachment listed on the Subaru site for the WRX. Trailer mounted bike racks in general work pretty well. Many now have a hinge built in so that you can fold them down and get the trunk open without removing the bikes. They are also generally less expnesive than a roof mounted rack.

    Some very reputable mail order places I've dealt with are performancebike.com and nashbar.com. Both of these companies sell the usual brand name stuff, plus some stuff they put their own name on. If Performance puts their name on something, it's generally very good. I can't say the same for Nashbar, but they are still a good company especially if you stick to name brand items.
  • saintvipersaintviper Member Posts: 177
    I have 15% tint on my car. It looks great, I'll put a picture up sometime.

    If I get pulled over, I plan to act stupid and hope for the best(my specialty). Many minivans have very dark OEM tint on the back windows. I'm going to try the line that the car is a wagon and the rules are different. Hopefully I don't have to try it out any time soon.
  • prayerforprayerfor Member Posts: 161
    Prior to the release of the Clutch Judder TSB, I had mentioned the problem to my service rep and also the service mgr while I was in for routine maintenance. The mgr told me, "that's normal". Well I was thinking, "common perhaps, but certainly not normal." I didn't press the issue though since it was only occasional and went away after one launch.

    Shortly after I learned of the TSB for this issue, and on a morning when the problem manifested, when I got to the office I called my service rep and contrived a little story about how the misbehaving clutch almost caused me to get in an accident when it bucked the car across an intersection just barely ahead of cross traffic (it could have happened ;)).

    At that point, it was "OK no problem, lemme order the parts and put you on the schedule." Now it probably helped that they had heard of the TSB and had actually just performed the work on another car that week. At any rate, they quickly waived the requirement to demonstrate the problem for them (and rightly so, IMO: after all do they think we're making this stuff up???)
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    bluesubie--thanks for the info. A GL-5 not mentioned on the nasioc thread is Neo synthetic, and I just put some in my tranny yesterday. It's a noticeable improvement over the Mobil 1. But I'm still getting the decel noise, so going to try the Motul 300 on the next fill.

    We had the dealer put Valvoline synthetic in our Forester not too long ago, and the results have been surprisingly good. Almost like having the OEM oil in there, with a nice, cushy feel to the shifts.
    It's so good, in fact, it makes me wonder if the dealer DID put OEM in by mistake. Oh, well, guess I'll have to change it myself next time to be sure. The quest for the perfect tranny fluid marches on . . :)
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    Just thought I'd mention too, there is a fascinating long-term motor oil test going on at
    Paradise Garage. Some surprising results on the Mobil 1 so far.
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Member Posts: 356
    It's not really suprising that dealers want to be able to recreate the problem.

    There are probably thousands of cars out there that don't shudder. Why should Subaru replace the clutch on a car just because someone knows there's a TSB and wants their non-shuddering, but half worn out clutch replaced at 30K?

    What they probably should do is assume the life of a clutch is, say 60K, and pro-rate early replacement if you come in with an un-reproducable shudder at 30K. Say give you the parts, you pay for labor, or something like that.
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    Looks like the 6K-7K oil changes I have been doing with Mobil 1 are fine. :-)

    One other comment, I am making an assumption that the WRX's 4-cyl boxster engine, though at higher compression than the Camaro's is probably tighter, or finer machined, since the Camaro's block is an old design while the WRX's is a new design (also knowing Japanese's processes for engine building vs. the U.S.).

    If this is the case, is it reasonable to assume the WRX's engine would contaminate the oil less?

    The Camaro's V8 seemed to polute the oil.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    jim,

    Sorry to hear about the let down. Frankly, I don't buy the broken leg story one bit. It would certainly test my confidence in the dealer if I were given a story like that.

    Do you absolutely need to have the vehicle right away? Another route is to have your dealer order one on allocation. You'll end up waiting 6 weeks or so, BUT you'll be sure you're getting a untouched vehicle.

    Ken
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    Ken,

    We'll see how it all works out. My dealer swears that he was told by the other dealership that their Swap Manager had broken her leg. He recounted his response to me and it was exactly like mine -- he didn't know how to react. He simply asked if the car would be ready the next day and was told that it would. His reaction seemed genuine as did his apology for the disruption in the process.

    I've spoken to him today and it looks like everything is proceeding on schedule and I should be getting the car tonight after work. If the car looks to be in good shape AND the mileage is not too high on the car AND the test drive is dreamy, then I'll move ahead (still not sure about the short-throw shifter - hope I like it!). If the deal I worked out with him stays intact, then I'll buy the car. If anything goes wrong then I walk and start exploring other options. It should only cost me my $100 locator deposit (which they haven't cashed yet).

    My experience with this dealer and his dealership have been pretty positive -- I have bought one car and referred two friends who bought and were treated well. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. But I'll be walking in with a great deal of caution because, after all, it is still a dealership. It's sorta like having a pet shark! =)

    I WILL NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE NEW CAR ETHER!!

    (I hope)

    -jim
  • rexaroorexaroo Member Posts: 174
    kevin 111--here's a thread on the Blackstone site that discusses the Mobil 1 0W30 results on a WRX. It came out looking pretty good! WRX Oil Test
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