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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    fintail said:

    Not sure how you came to that, when I have posted against tariffs (trade wars) from the beginning - as nothing in economic history shows them to be viable or productive in any way. There's zero behind them, which kind of makes it perfect for this credibility-free regime.

    But yes, I don't care for Agent Orange either. It's not just him, either.

    Nice attempt at putting it back on me, though ;)

    houdini1 said:


    So tariffs aren't the issue for you, your issue is you just don't like President Trump ?

    Not sure how I came to that??? Maybe it was when you said he was categorically unfit for his job, or he shouldn't be yapping and tweeting about tariffs. Those are pretty good clues.

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,168
    ab348 said:

    venture said:


    The bread trick I learned from a master plumber friend. It only takes a minute and has worked every time for me...except that one time. :'(

    You must have used whole-grain bread that one time. I gather that only white bread should be used.
    You may be right. :D

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Do you think the nonstop tweet tantrums are helping his case, or anyone? If he had any decorum, he'd act like an adult and present his case, right or wrong. If someone is allowed to make wild statements about how he is "for America", others can make statements about how they see that to be untrue.

    But really, let's stick to the the tariffs, as they a good chance of impacting everyday life.

    houdini1 said:



    Not sure how I came to that??? Maybe it was when you said he was categorically unfit for his job, or he shouldn't be yapping and tweeting about tariffs. Those are pretty good clues.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    You're free to add something constructive. Waiting for it...

    Because it advances the narrative. Looking at things objectively is absolutely verboten.

    That said, the 40K and 20K posters will weigh in, I'm guessing.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Most US cars could be half price in Japan or Europe and few would sell. They are not suited to local conditions. From physical size vs roads, to engine size, to consumption, to styling, to build quality, they are not desired by those markets. Virtually the only modern American cars you will see in Europe are Mustangs, and a handful of others that are likely private imports.

    If the US was really about "free markets", it also wouldn't have the arbitrary and asinine 25 year import rule that was implemented the American way - by a multinational corporation paying for it.

    I

    So more US made cars and products could sell were the competition field level.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    driver100 said:


    Maybe you need a certain type of bread....does rye work better than multi-grain? How about Wonder Bread, that should gum it up pretty good?

    What I understand is that a typical white bread like Wonder is the only kind to use for this. It acts like a sponge to soak up the water then disintegrates once the flow starts. Other types of bread like rye and whole wheat apparently don't disintegrate as well.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    look at those tariffs in reverse. Residents in those countries have fewer choices, and usually pay a lot more for them. So in terms of arguing for US to impose more tariffs, look at how it works out for countries that already are (the majority of the public, not a small number of employees or rich companies).

    Same impact when government tries to do micro managing. Stuff like big subsidies or tax breaks to get a company to build a factory in one location. Might be great for that town, but some other local is losing the jobs, and a whole lotta tax money usually goes into the already deep pockets. Car related, Subaru NA needed more space, so they are moving to a bigger (new) building a few miles down the road. But, in a different town, that needed "help". so they are getting a boatload of tax incentives and handouts to move there, in blatant social engineering. Meanwhile, no net change in employment level, but my taxes go up to put money in Subarus pocket, and I don't even get a car out of it.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    Ah yes. Politics. Brings out the best in everyone.
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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    ab348 said:

    Is there a politics board this discussion could move to? Not trying to be snarky but I would rather read almost anything else than this.

    Well you could go back and read my plumbing tips again. :'( But I agree this ain't the place for this.

    jmonroe

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,731
    I think that whole Japanese car market is closed to us argument is not realistic. The US doesn't make the kind of vehicles that they would buy.
    They buy small vehicles and their market isn't all that big.

    We came through the snow storm ok, but a lot of people don't have power.
    Lent my generator to a guy at work again.
    Power went out yesterday with no ETA on it being restored.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    venture said:
    As long as we're talking remodeling - I just installed these recessed LED lights in my family room. No metal housings, dimmable, IC, full range of temperatures (I like 4000k - more white) and easy to install. http://www.lithonia.com/commercial/wf6+downlight.html#.WqEKBExFy70
    Interesting. Am I overlooking what the replacement bulbs are? Or are they not replaceable and you have to buy a new unit (minus the ballast)? 

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    No power at our house since 6:30 last night. This sucks.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited March 2018
    I was going to comment about the surprise inch of snow flurries overnight that melted onto the roads in SW Ohio in parts causing lots of accidents.

    Then I was hearing the stories about the snowfalls again in the northeast.

    Sympathies go out to all there. And IIRC there's another storm coming.

    Son was in DC Va area when first one went through last Friday, so he and two others had to drive back to Ohio since flights were cancelled. All DC got was rain and wind. And wind.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Nothing good ever comes out of posters expressing their political views regarding anything - tariffs, Presidents, Congress, trade, etc. - so let's try to stay away from posting political points of view or even anything relating to politics - so we can remain friendly and appreciative of our knowledge of just about everything else. ;)

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,168
    qbrozen said:


    venture said:

    As long as we're talking remodeling - I just installed these recessed LED lights in my family room. No metal housings, dimmable, IC, full range of temperatures (I like 4000k - more white) and easy to install.

    http://www.lithonia.com/commercial/wf6+downlight.html#.WqEKBExFy70


    Interesting. Am I overlooking what the replacement bulbs are? Or are they not replaceable and you have to buy a new unit (minus the ballast)? 

    You know, I have no idea. They're new so I didn't even consider that. The little metal box disconnects from the light by turning a ring and pulling the wire apart so replacing one if it ever stops working would be very easy.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     GG sounds like you did quite a bit to your house over the years personally would just be to entire master bath 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Lees plumbing tricks posted above interesting 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     G Monro loved your story about like always you have many interesting stories that you post 
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    edited March 2018
    venture said:

    qbrozen said:


    Interesting. Am I overlooking what the replacement bulbs are? Or are they not replaceable and you have to buy a new unit (minus the ballast)? 

    You know, I have no idea. They're new so I didn't even consider that. The little metal box disconnects from the light by turning a ring and pulling the wire apart so replacing one if it ever stops working would be very easy.
    I just was reading the spec sheets and installation instructions since these lights intrigued me. Turns out the light unit does not have a replaceable bulb, you need to replace the whole thing except for the control box it if it ever fails. They claim a service life of 35000 hours IIRC.

    I was hoping the control unit allowed you to daisy chain a number of lights but you need a control box for each light, which means running a bunch of 120V cable.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    Is there a politics board this discussion could move to? Not trying to be snarky but I would rather read almost anything else than this.

    Yeh, but look at the action it is getting. This is more exciting than JMonroe telling us how to fix a drain pipe.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

     G Monro loved your story about like always you have many interesting stories that you post 

    One fan ain't too bad!

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989

     G Monro loved your story about like always you have many interesting stories that you post 

    Don't encourage me. Someone is bound to get jealous and think it's political. :D

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    ab348 said:

    venture said:

    qbrozen said:


    Interesting. Am I overlooking what the replacement bulbs are? Or are they not replaceable and you have to buy a new unit (minus the ballast)? 

    You know, I have no idea. They're new so I didn't even consider that. The little metal box disconnects from the light by turning a ring and pulling the wire apart so replacing one if it ever stops working would be very easy.
    I just was reading the spec sheets and installation instructions since these lights intrigued me. Turns out the light unit does not have a replaceable bulb, you need to replace the whole thing except for the control box it if it ever fails. They claim a service life of 35000 hours IIRC.

    I was hoping the control unit allowed you to daisy chain a number of lights but you need a control box for each light, which means running a bunch of 120V cable.

    ab348 said:

    venture said:

    qbrozen said:


    Interesting. Am I overlooking what the replacement bulbs are? Or are they not replaceable and you have to buy a new unit (minus the ballast)? 

    You know, I have no idea. They're new so I didn't even consider that. The little metal box disconnects from the light by turning a ring and pulling the wire apart so replacing one if it ever stops working would be very easy.
    I just was reading the spec sheets and installation instructions since these lights intrigued me. Turns out the light unit does not have a replaceable bulb, you need to replace the whole thing except for the control box it if it ever fails. They claim a service life of 35000 hours IIRC.

    I was hoping the control unit allowed you to daisy chain a number of lights but you need a control box for each light, which means running a bunch of 120V cable.

    Do you want me to tell you how to do that? :'(

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    driver100 said:

    ab348 said:

    Is there a politics board this discussion could move to? Not trying to be snarky but I would rather read almost anything else than this.

    Yeh, but look at the action it is getting. This is more exciting than JMonroe telling us how to fix a drain pipe.
    I knew you'd never get it, I was talking about a supply line. :@

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Hear hear. It's also sometimes difficult talking to a brick wall.

    While the 75th snowstorm of the season is pummeling points east, the PNW is looking forward to sun and near record warmth this weekend. Not rubbing it in :)
    abacomike said:

    Nothing good ever comes out of posters expressing their political views regarding anything - tariffs, Presidents, Congress, trade, etc. - so let's try to stay away from posting political points of view or even anything relating to politics - so we can remain friendly and appreciative of our knowledge of just about everything else. ;)

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,072
    We are also doing a to-the-walls bathroom remodel. Still in the planning, layout, and financing stages.
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    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,123
    Keeping it auto related, AP posted a sampling of companies who would be hurt by tariifs. Among them is Ford and GM.

    Not auto related, but Caterpillar and GE will be hurt, too. All the beer and softdrink companies will be hurt, as well as appliance manufacturers (specifically Whilrpool).
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    nice dump truck up above. They improvement somewhat something I hated about the prior model. The front tires looked wildly undersized (like there was room for 20's and instead they stuck in the 10" ones off a 1979 Civic. Just looked ridiculous.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,974
    We all know @jmonroe is the Bob Avila / Norm Abraham of our group!  Great plumbing tips, however there is a tool for stopping water while sweating pipes. 


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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Automaker's stocks took a tumble when tariffs were announced. About 3%. The big worry is whether the increased cost of steel can be passed onto consumers or not, since auto sales are flat right now anyway.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    tjc78 said:

    We all know @jmonroe is the Bob Avila / Norm Abraham of our group!  Great plumbing tips, however there is a tool for stopping water while sweating pipes. 


    HUH? I have no idea how that dooflicky can stop the flow of water and allow for the sweating of a fitting at the same time.

    I can see how it can be inserted into the end of various sizes of tubing/pipe with the different attachments to stop the flow of water but again not allowing that piece of pipe, at that point, to have fittings sweated to it at the same time. :o:o

    And even if it could, my improvised thingy doesn't even cost $1.95 so I ain't going to spring for that $38 thinga-mabob. :(

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,731
    I'm a jmonroe fan, so I guess that makes at least 2. :)
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,220

    @abacomike,
    I would love to see 5% savings account rates(govt guaranteed principal).

    @abacomike,
    I would love to see 5% savings account rates(govt guaranteed principal).

    That's what I got in the 60s with my allowance money bank account. Now you need to buy a junk bond fund to get those rates.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    edited March 2018

    Automaker's stocks took a tumble when tariffs were announced. About 3%. The big worry is whether the increased cost of steel can be passed onto consumers or not, since auto sales are flat right now anyway.

    Steel and aluminum tariffs do not apply to Canada and Mexico. Doesn't most of our steel come from there?

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,974
    jmonroe said:
    We all know @jmonroe is the Bob Avila / Norm Abraham of our group!  Great plumbing tips, however there is a tool for stopping water while sweating pipes. 


    HUH? I have no idea how that dooflicky can stop the flow of water and allow for the sweating of a fitting at the same time. I can see how it can be inserted into the end of various sizes of tubing/pipe with the different attachments to stop the flow of water but again not allowing that piece of pipe, at that point, to have fittings sweated to it at the same time. :o:o And even if it could, my improvised thingy doesn't even cost $1.95 so I ain't going to spring for that $38 thinga-mabob. :( jmonroe
    It’s hard to explain, but when I remodeled my kitchen it was a life saver on a pipe with an old crappy valve that didn’t seal all the way.  

    My cousin (who is a tool junkie) was helping me and had this thing.  

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    How does it work? How would that be used to block off water flow in a pipe where the service valve wouldn't seal completely and the user be able to solder on an end cap?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,508
    I sold one of those today to someone who was working on an 1 1/4" water main that wouldn't close.

    Mike - you must be so proud of your grandson!  

    @jmonroe - my 11 year old's Pee Wee B team won game 1 of their state tournament tonight 5-0.  Game 2 is Saturday at 7:45 AM & Game 3 Saturday at 2:30 PM.  Very exciting!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Keeping it auto related, AP posted a sampling of companies who would be hurt by tariifs. Among them is Ford and GM.

    Not auto related, but Caterpillar and GE will be hurt, too. All the beer and softdrink companies will be hurt, as well as appliance manufacturers (specifically Whilrpool).

    Steelmakers benefit....companies that buy the steel to produce the products will lose out. Which one has more employees? Not too mention the consumer will pay more.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    houdini1 said:

    Automaker's stocks took a tumble when tariffs were announced. About 3%. The big worry is whether the increased cost of steel can be passed onto consumers or not, since auto sales are flat right now anyway.

    Steel and aluminum tariffs do not apply to Canada and Mexico. Doesn't most of our steel come from there?
    Most does, but they will probably be hit with tariffs too if NAFTA isn't changed, and btw....most experts believe NAFTA is more beneficial to the US than it is to Canada.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    I'm a jmonroe fan, so I guess that makes at least 2. :)

    Good...his fan based doubled and JMonroe gave you a like. I don't know about you two :p

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    driver100 said:

    houdini1 said:

    Automaker's stocks took a tumble when tariffs were announced. About 3%. The big worry is whether the increased cost of steel can be passed onto consumers or not, since auto sales are flat right now anyway.

    Steel and aluminum tariffs do not apply to Canada and Mexico. Doesn't most of our steel come from there?
    Most does, but they will probably be hit with tariffs too if NAFTA isn't changed, and btw....most experts believe NAFTA is more beneficial to the US than it is to Canada.
    Good, then Canada should jump at the chance to help Trump get NAFTA renegotiated if they don't like the present terms.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    driver100 said:

    I'm a jmonroe fan, so I guess that makes at least 2. :)

    Good...his fan based doubled and JMonroe gave you a like. I don't know about you two :p
    Will someone please explain it to him before he'll have trouble falling asleep tonight? :'(

    jmonroe

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    houdini1 said:

    Automaker's stocks took a tumble when tariffs were announced. About 3%. The big worry is whether the increased cost of steel can be passed onto consumers or not, since auto sales are flat right now anyway.

    Steel and aluminum tariffs do not apply to Canada and Mexico. Doesn't most of our steel come from there?
    Yes, the "tariff" has pretty much just had its teeth pulled, so the stock market hasn't even reacted anymore. GM is up from the low of 3/2.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    All a distraction. Even these guys know better than to go down that road. Barring real insanity, markets should be in the black tomorrow. A certain someone was awfully quiet about them when they were tanking, he'll be chatty again. And whatever you do, don't talk about Mueller.

    We have a new sideshow. Let's see if buddy Putin gets to run a pipeline through NK to SK - might mean cheaper steel for all of the fancier model Hyundais and Kias so many love :)










    Yes, the "tariff" has pretty much just had its teeth pulled, so the stock market hasn't even reacted anymore. GM is up from the low of 3/2.

  • fordfoolfordfool Member Posts: 240
    venture said:

    jmonroe said:


    The bread trick I learned from a master plumber friend. It only takes a minute and has worked every time for me...except that one time. :'(

    Wrapping sewing thread around the threads of a screw can provide a tighter seal.
  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,168
    ab348 said:

    venture said:

    qbrozen said:


    Interesting. Am I overlooking what the replacement bulbs are? Or are they not replaceable and you have to buy a new unit (minus the ballast)? 

    You know, I have no idea. They're new so I didn't even consider that. The little metal box disconnects from the light by turning a ring and pulling the wire apart so replacing one if it ever stops working would be very easy.
    I just was reading the spec sheets and installation instructions since these lights intrigued me. Turns out the light unit does not have a replaceable bulb, you need to replace the whole thing except for the control box it if it ever fails. They claim a service life of 35000 hours IIRC.

    I was hoping the control unit allowed you to daisy chain a number of lights but you need a control box for each light, which means running a bunch of 120V cable.

    Each light comes with the little box. They cost less than $30US.

    I have two run in series. Just jumped from one to the other - on one dimmer switch. They draw so little electricity I don't see why many couldn't be wired this way although I don't know what the limit may be since I only have 4 of them and 2 dimmer switches.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,220

    I was going to comment about the surprise inch of snow flurries overnight that melted onto the roads in SW Ohio in parts causing lots of accidents.

    Then I was hearing the stories about the snowfalls again in the northeast.

    Sympathies go out to all there. And IIRC there's another storm coming.

    Son was in DC Va area when first one went through last Friday, so he and two others had to drive back to Ohio since flights were cancelled. All DC got was rain and wind. And wind.

    Last Friday they predicted 1-3" and we got a foot. Wednesday theft said 15" and we got 7. I'd like to run a weatherman over with my car if i could get it out of the driveway. :@

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