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imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

OK it's name that car time again (yes I found myself at another car show).

Packard Super Hardtop 1956
Beautiful. Back when cars were cars.
Thanks for posting that specimen. Most are Caribbeans and Clippers.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

OK it's name that car time again (yes I found myself at another car show).

I didn't do any research but I think it is a Packard....and I would guess 54 to 56, probably 55.

Edit: Noticed the wrap around windshield, that started in 55....funny most cars start these trends the same year - collusion? (weird Twilight Zone music)

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

OK it's name that car time again (yes I found myself at another car show).

Packard Super Hardtop 1956 Beautiful. Back when cars were cars. Thanks for posting that specimen. Most are Caribbeans and Clippers.

Got a winner it's a 56 Packard clipper super hardtop. 

Want another one?

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

OK it's name that car time again (yes I found myself at another car show).

Packard?  Late 1950’s I would think.  This was the beginning of the end for Packard.  They started to look like every other car - indistinguishable.

When I was a kid, our neighbors owned a 1949 black Packard Sedan.  Now that car was in a class by itself.

imidazol97

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Yes I like seeing them. I've gone to so many car shows here that I keep seeing the same cars year after year. I starting going farther from home to see some "strange" cars that I haven't already seen!

ab348

driver100 said:

Is a Moog Synthesizer electronic music the same as computer generated music? I'm no expert, but one seems real and cheerful especially in the case of Popcorn, but computer music seems to not have any life in it....almost robotic...IMO.
Story of Popcorn by Hot Butter

Yeah, I would say there is no comparison between those two tunes and this, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbw2XBBVO3A

But to each their own.

@suydam , this was the latest series from Tom Hanks & co. who had done a pretty good job with their past series on decades. Most of them were actually quite enjoyable and well-made but in this case I think the music of the first decade of the 2000s was the problem more so than the production of the program.

On a brighter note, last week I re-watched the outstanding documentary "Muscle Shoals" about the incredible music that was made there in the '60s and '70s. Highly recommended and very enjoyable. Sadly, Rick Hall died earlier this year.

snakeweasel

Ok name this car

fintail

Look at that engine. Later run Stanley steam car, maybe late teens to around 1920. The wire wheels would have been a sporty option.

snakeweasel said:

Ok name this car

fintail

1st Wave is a good one too for music of that general era.

tjc78 said:

80s on 8
Hair Nation 
Classic Rewind 

Awesome trio! 

fintail

It's all synthetic to me, just evolution. The "life" in music is something I think is reflected in music and many other things in their evolution over the past 50 years - look at clothing, design, cars, etc. Things are a lot more homogenized today.

driver100 said:

Is a Moog Synthesizer electronic music the same as computer generated music? I'm no expert, but one seems real and cheerful especially in the case of Popcorn, but computer music seems to not have any life in it....almost robotic...IMO.
Story of Popcorn by Hot Butter

snakeweasel

fintail said:

Look at that engine. Later run Stanley steam car, maybe late teens to around 1920. The wire wheels would have been a sporty option.

Ok name this car

Yep 1917 Stanley steamer.

driver100

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

Is a Moog Synthesizer electronic music the same as computer generated music? I'm no expert, but one seems real and cheerful especially in the case of Popcorn, but computer music seems to not have any life in it....almost robotic...IMO.
Story of Popcorn by Hot Butter

Yeah, I would say there is no comparison between those two tunes and this, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbw2XBBVO3A

But to each their own.

Hard to hum along with that stuff. At about the 4 minute mark it sounds like I have a flat tire or I have a rear window down 5 inches!

ab348

driver100 said:

Hard to hum along with that stuff. At about the 4 minute mark it sounds like I have a flat tire or I have a rear window down 5 inches!

I think it requires a full bong of the most potent skunkweed.

nyccarguy

I went all @jmonroe & @jmonroe1 on my Prelude for today.  Here’s the results of what I’ve been up to since 11:00 this AM:

iluvmysephia1

As for favorite decades for music, the 60's were a bit folksy for me. Sure there were the Rolling Stones and Beatles, the continuation of Chuck Berry and Elvis, and man when Jimi Hendrix came along and played some serious plugged-in electric guitar, it spurred on Eric Clapton and the rest to plug in and ROCK like rock should be played.

My first concert that I went to was Carole King and James Taylor round about 1971. Loved it! The next show was Rod Stewart and Faces. Whoa! Loud rock and roll. In 1974 I went to go see Foghat at Hec Edmundson Pavilion at the U of Washington. Double, triple WHOA. Loud and bluesy rockin' that got my feet a movin'. Same thing with Burton Cummings and The Guess Who. Burton's great voice and piano combined with catchy love songs made them my 2nd favorite band, following only Foghat as my favorite band. I didn't discover Canada's Tragically Hip until 1997 - once Gordon Downie's catchy-rowdy vocals and the band's great guitar and drumming became entrenched in my mind, that band became locked in to my 3rd spot for all-time favorite rock bands.

I think the 60's were too cutesy, the 80's too detached and weird sounding for the most part. My fave decade for rock and just great music in general was the 1970's. I don't even have to think about it much, but since I love 70's music so much, I will. 

driver100

Great looking car NYC, and it looks better than new. I say better because I don't remember seeing a vibrant red like that back then. I love the big square headlights and the large glass areas. looks better than most of todays cars.

driver100

Headlights remind me of about a 78 Volvo.....

abacomike

nyccarguy said:

I went all @jmonroe & @jmonroe1 on my Prelude for today.  Here’s the results of what I’ve been up to since 11:00 this AM:

Sharp, Bradd.  Looks brand new.  My wife had a red Prelude that she loved.

berri

Honda made a lot of nice looking coupes. Your red brings it out on that Prelude.

explorerx4

@nyc,
Prelude looks great! Nice to have a weekend where we can clean the cars.

snakeweasel

berri said:

Honda made a lot of nice looking coupes. Your red brings it out on that Prelude.

Speaking of couples, what car is this? 

Bonus points if you know how many clowns it holds.

ab348

Dodged a bullet (sorta) today. About a month ago I had to buy a new hedge trimmer as the old one gave up the ghost. The new one is considerably lighter than the former, so it is easier to use overhead on tall shrubs, etc. I was doing that and reached up with it in one hand, then went to put a second hand on it, and missed both the handle and the guard somehow. My right index finger got pinched by the bar, thankfully not all the way in but just on the outside of the bar where the blades are angled away.

I was wearing gloves and and they weren't cut so aside from the pinch didn't think anything of it. But it kept throbbing so after a minute I took a look and saw that it had cracked the fingernail partway down in the middle and it was bleeding underneath. I think the nail actually was what caused the cut under it. Blood was seeping quite a bit so I went inside to try to apply some antiseptic and try to get it stopped. That took a while as it was stubborn. Finally got several bandaids arranged on it to abate it and went back out to clean up. A couple of hours later I gripped something and it started bleeding again, so a new regime of bandaids was pressed into service. So far so good ever since. It is in a spot where it is easy to disturb so I am trying to be careful. Just glad it wasn't a lot worse.

ab348

snakeweasel said:

Speaking of couples, what car is this? 

Bonus points if you know how many clowns it holds.

That's a Topolino, isn't it?

No guess on how many clowns, but I imagine less than a dozen.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

Speaking of couples, what car is this? 

Bonus points if you know how many clowns it holds.

That's a Topolino, isn't it? No guess on how many clowns, but I imagine less than a dozen.

Bingo a 37 Fiat Topolino. This crowd does know its cars.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

Dodged a bullet (sorta) today. About a month ago I had to buy a new hedge trimmer as the old one gave up the ghost. The new one is considerably lighter than the former, so it is easier to use overhead on tall shrubs, etc. I was doing that and reached up with it in one hand, then went to put a second hand on it, and missed both the handle and the guard somehow. My right index finger got pinched by the bar, thankfully not all the way in but just on the outside of the bar where the blades are angled away. I was wearing gloves and and they weren't cut so aside from the pinch didn't think anything of it. But it kept throbbing so after a minute I took a look and saw that it had cracked the fingernail partway down in the middle and it was bleeding underneath. I think the nail actually was what caused the cut under it. Blood was seeping quite a bit so I went inside to try to apply some antiseptic and try to get it stopped. That took a while as it was stubborn. Finally got several bandaids arranged on it to abate it and went back out to clean up. A couple of hours later I gripped something and it started bleeding again, so a new regime of bandaids was pressed into service. So far so good ever since. It is in a spot where it is easy to disturb so I am trying to be careful. Just glad it wasn't a lot worse.

Glad your not really hurt. Just keep an eye on it because pressure can build up under the nail if it doesnt bleed out enough. 

abacomike

ab348 said:

Dodged a bullet (sorta) today. About a month ago I had to buy a new hedge trimmer as the old one gave up the ghost. The new one is considerably lighter than the former, so it is easier to use overhead on tall shrubs, etc. I was doing that and reached up with it in one hand, then went to put a second hand on it, and missed both the handle and the guard somehow. My right index finger got pinched by the bar, thankfully not all the way in but just on the outside of the bar where the blades are angled away. I was wearing gloves and and they weren't cut so aside from the pinch didn't think anything of it. But it kept throbbing so after a minute I took a look and saw that it had cracked the fingernail partway down in the middle and it was bleeding underneath. I think the nail actually was what caused the cut under it. Blood was seeping quite a bit so I went inside to try to apply some antiseptic and try to get it stopped. That took a while as it was stubborn. Finally got several bandaids arranged on it to abate it and went back out to clean up. A couple of hours later I gripped something and it started bleeding again, so a new regime of bandaids was pressed into service. So far so good ever since. It is in a spot where it is easy to disturb so I am trying to be careful. Just glad it wasn't a lot worse.

Ouch, ab.  So sorry to hear of your mishap.  As you described the incident, it brought back many memories of similar incidents in my life.  Just a simple movement or sticking a finger or a toe in the wrong place at the wrong time can result in the oddest injury.

Got to be careful with injuries to a fingernail or a toenail as infection can set in quickly.  I would suggest getting some additional first aid stuff like gauze, tape, peroxide, antibiotic ointment and some specialty bandaids.  Ya never know when it will happen again. 

jmonroe1

@ab348, you definitely dodged a bullet. Nothing makes you feel more like a dope than when you do something like that. Don't ask how I know that. Just keep it clean until it scabs over and you should be fine. Again, don't ask me how I know that.

Good luck and let us know how it's going in a few days.

Dr. jmonroe

driver100

You learn something every day:
To determine how many clowns can fit in the car, it’s simple math. It’s a volume calculation. An American Standard Clown (ASC) is 5’ 8” tall and weighs 158 pounds. Each clown takes up approximately 3 cubic feet of space. A completely bare clown car probably has about 120 cubic feet of total space for clowns. So about 40 clowns should be able to fit in a clown car. But there are other factors, such as clowns need to breath, the need to exit the car quickly, and the use of props. Therefore, a typical clown car fits between 14 and 21 clowns with their props.
*Remember, everything is removed from inside the car...including door panels and seats.

driver100

Ab, Close call, bad enough but it could be worse. I think that you should consider that a wake up call. Be extra careful when handling anything dangerous. Be defensive, when driving, and when pruning.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

@ab348, you definitely dodged a bullet. Nothing makes you feel more like a dope than when you do something like that. Don't ask how I know that. Just keep it clean until it scabs over and you should be fine. Again, don't ask me how I know that.

Good luck and let us know how it's going in a few days.

Dr. jmonroe

Jmonroe1 sure doesn't look like Dean Martin!

abacomike

driver100 said:

You learn something every day: To determine how many clowns can fit in the car, it’s simple math. It’s a volume calculation. An American Standard Clown (ASC) is 5’ 8” tall and weighs 158 pounds. Each clown takes up approximately 3 cubic feet of space. A completely bare clown car probably has about 120 cubic feet of total space for clowns. So about 40 clowns should be able to fit in a clown car. But there are other factors, such as clowns need to breath, the need to exit the car quickly, and the use of props. Therefore, a typical clown car fits between 14 and 21 clowns with their props. *Remember, everything is removed from inside the car...including door panels and seats.

So now we know how sardines must feel when they put the lid on those tins. 

tjc78

Hedge trimmers are dangerous ... I’ve had a close call or two.  I’ve also clipped the extension cord a few times.  

imidazol97

ab348 said:

So far so good ever since. It is in a spot where it is easy to disturb so I am trying to be careful. Just glad it wasn't a lot worse.

Glad for you that you got the bleeding stopped and didn't have to pursue further medical treatment. My experience with lots of fingernails caught in doors or similar is that the next day or two can lead to more discomfort. Hope yours stays calm.

Clear description of home medicine treatment for blood pressure under nail ahead--warning.
I have had to use very small drill bits, sterilized, to drill into the top of the nail by spinning it between my fingers to relieve pressure from the blood on those successive days when it throbbed. No. I was not dumb enough to try using a power drill to speed up the process. LOL

driver100

tjc78 said:

Hedge trimmers are dangerous ... I’ve had a close call or two.  I’ve also clipped the extension cord a few times.  

I don't mess with that stuff anymore....I call the guy!

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

Speaking of couples, what car is this? 

Bonus points if you know how many clowns it holds.

That's a Topolino, isn't it?

No guess on how many clowns, but I imagine less than a dozen.

Bingo a 37 Fiat Topolino. This crowd does know its cars.

What are the two other cars behind the first? That green color looks familar from the era, 1980s?

ab348

imidazol97 said:

I have had to use very small drill bits, sterilized, to drill into the top of the nail by spinning it between my fingers to relieve pressure from the blood on those successive days when it throbbed. Sorry for the clear description. No. I was not dumb enough to try using a power drill to speed up the process. LOL

So far so good with mine. I will see what it looks like in a little while when I remove the bandaids.

You mentioning the drilling reminded me of a story I read in the book "Ball Four" by Jim Bouton. A catcher got hit on the fingernail and the team doc determined the nail had to be drilled to relieve the pressure. Bouton talks about how he and others stuck around to watch and how the drill must have been dull because the bit wouldn't go thru the nail. Finally when it hit paydirt the catcher jerked his hand away and the drill came with it, stuck in the finger. Ouch.

imidazol97

@ab348
About my login problems. I stated that forums.edmunds.com was what I typed for both entries, when it doesn't complete because it goes Old Forums and also when it does work.

You pointed out there were both the same. Right... Hmmmm.

So I started watching. I now don't think it was my homepage not being changed. It's the stored URLs in Chrome that autocomplete. I type forums.edmunds.com into a URL after cleaning out cookies and such to keep my old computer speedy enough. It accepts forums.edmunds.com AND adds a whole bunch of additional test in the URL that fills the space shown. Then I get the login on the left: Old Forum.

After once logging into Insider again, when I type in forums.edmunds.com, nothing gets added on the end when I test it now.

I think I need to delete all the history in my old chrome.

imidazol97

@ab348
I also have used a sterilized needle that I ran under the nail from the front back to the blood pool. I think the small drill is more Tim Allen style. The soft nail material grinds away easily.

graphicguy

roadburner said:

I spent a few hours detailing the Clubman today; it will be my DD when I start my prosecuting gig in January(assuming we nab a suitably equipped JK or JL for my wife). Anyway, I concentrated on the wheels and the faded cladding. I'm pretty happy with the results:

WOW....nice job RB. I thought you were showing us a “NEW” punch at first.

graphicguy

Thanks, IMID! Maybe gone to a BHPH lot? Still, that might be too new for that kind of lot (2016).

Not sure if GM would go to this amount of trouble to cover it up, but there was evidence of where it caught on fire if someone would put it on a rack. I’m sure they could cover the smell of burning rubber and plastic. But, it was scorched underneath and that would be readily noticeable if someone cared to look there.

driver100

graphicguy said:

Thanks, IMID! Maybe gone to a BHPH lot? Still, that might be too new for that kind of lot (2016).

It is buried somewhere out there. Probably a curbsider has it by now.....such a deal!

venture

A picture of the hood of my Legacy after washing it.

graphicguy

roadburner said:

tjc78 said:

@graphicguy and @roadburner

Take a look at this setup! I was trolling Ebay looking at some B&W speakers and looked at a listing with this listening room. Wow, I could get used to that. Other pictures show the speakers bi-wired with Nordost cables.

Nice- McIntosh electronics. No center channel, however.

Yeah....serious 2 channel rig with McIntosh electronics. Can’t make out the turntable, but looks pretty nice. Looks like a Marantz CD player. Bowers & Wilkins speakers (800 series?).

That person has a whole ton of money invested in that...probably enough to buy a very nice BMW or Mercedes.

graphicguy

First concert.....my (then) girlfriend dragged me to it. I think I was 17 and I had a car. She needed a ride. Loggins and Messina. I think they broke up like a month after we saw them. I was more of a Clash, Ramones and Red Hot Chili Peppers type lover.

However, I’ll give her credit, Loggins and Messina put on a helluva show and showed some serious musical chops. They had a really good band behind them, too. Plus, they played for nearly 3 hours. Not much for their soft stuff. But, once they put on their electric gear, they jammed.

These days? I think I’ve mellowed. I like Dianna Krall, The Avett Brothers and just heard a really good jazz singer while I was out West on a business trip a month or so ago.....Melissa Morgan. Just excellent!

https://youtu.be/uysH3isQp2k

imidazol97

graphicguy said:

Thanks, IMID! Maybe gone to a BHPH lot? Still, that might be too new for that kind of lot (2016).

Not sure if GM would go to this amount of trouble to cover it up, but there was evidence of where it caught on fire if someone would put it on a rack. I’m sure they could cover the smell of burning rubber and plastic. But, it was scorched underneath and that would be readily noticeable if someone cared to look there.

I am hoping someone with a subscription to CarFox or one of the tracking services would offer to run the VIN to see what hits occur.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

So far so good ever since. It is in a spot where it is easy to disturb so I am trying to be careful. Just glad it wasn't a lot worse.

Glad for you that you got the bleeding stopped and didn't have to pursue further medical treatment. My experience with lots of fingernails caught in doors or similar is that the next day or two can lead to more discomfort. Hope yours stays calm. Clear description of home medicine treatment for blood pressure under nail ahead--warning. I have had to use very small drill bits, sterilized, to drill into the top of the nail by spinning it between my fingers to relieve pressure from the blood on those successive days when it throbbed. No. I was not dumb enough to try using a power drill to speed up the process. LOL

When I was on the service (a Hospital Corpsman) to relieve pressure under a nail we would straighten a paperclip, heat up one end and use the heated end on the nail to burn through the nail.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

ab348 said:

Speaking of couples, what car is this? 

Bonus points if you know how many clowns it holds.

That's a Topolino, isn't it? No guess on how many clowns, but I imagine less than a dozen.

Bingo a 37 Fiat Topolino. This crowd does know its cars.

What are the two other cars behind the first? That green color looks familar from the era, 1980s?

Not sure what the green car was but if memory serves the one behind it was a citroen.

want another?

fintail

The green car is a Porsche Targa, likely from around 1970. The soft top targa is relatively unusual.

The car behind it is a very special machine - it appears to be a Pierce-Arrow Silver Arrow, from 1933. I believe under 10 were made, and assuming it is real (I am unaware of any replicas), is easily a 7 figure car:

imidazol97 said:

What are the two other cars behind the first? That green color looks familar from the era, 1980s?

driver100

imidazol97 said:

graphicguy said:

Thanks, IMID! Maybe gone to a BHPH lot? Still, that might be too new for that kind of lot (2016).

Not sure if GM would go to this amount of trouble to cover it up, but there was evidence of where it caught on fire if someone would put it on a rack. I’m sure they could cover the smell of burning rubber and plastic. But, it was scorched underneath and that would be readily noticeable if someone cared to look there.

I am hoping someone with a subscription to CarFox or one of the tracking services would offer to run the VIN to see what hits occur.

+1

roadburner

graphicguy said:

WOW....nice job RB. I thought you were showing us a “NEW” punch at first.

Thanks!