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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    fintail said:
    The green car is a Porsche Targa, likely from around 1970. The soft top targa is relatively unusual. The car behind it is a very special machine - it appears to be a Pierce-Arrow Silver Arrow, from 1933. I believe under 10 were made, and assuming it is real (I am unaware of any replicas), is easily a 7 figure car: image
    What are the two other cars behind the first? That green color looks familar from the era, 1980s?
    Nope on both accounts, no Piece Arrows were there and all the Porsches were grouped together. Where there were a lot of one particular make they were all grouped together.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    ok another. 


    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    V12-V16 Cadillac from around 1930 - another fairly valuable car.

    ok another

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,323
    ^^^ That is a Cadillac V-16 roadster. Oh my. The poly cover to protect the top is a later addition of course.

    I am stumped by the fastback sedan in the background of the previous pic. I thought at first it might be a Tatra or a Skoda but couldn't come up with anything that looked close. The roofline above the rear window has me intrigued, though I cannot tell for sure if it is a trick of the light that I am seeing.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    You're telling me the green car nearest the Topolino isn't a Porsche?

    image

    Are we looking at different cars? I'll wager 10 years salary that the green car is a Porsche ;)

    Same for the silver/grey car beside it (man in a hat between them) being a Silver Arrow (or fastidious re-creation). Maybe the grouping got disorganized.



    Nope on both accounts, no Piece Arrows were there and all the Porsches were grouped together. Where there were a lot of one particular make they were all grouped together.

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989



    ab348 said:

    So far so good ever since. It is in a spot where it is easy to disturb so I am trying to be careful. Just glad it wasn't a lot worse.

    Glad for you that you got the bleeding stopped and didn't have to pursue further medical treatment. My experience with lots of fingernails caught in doors or similar is that the next day or two can lead to more discomfort. Hope yours stays calm.

    Clear description of home medicine treatment for blood pressure under nail ahead--warning.
    I have had to use very small drill bits, sterilized, to drill into the top of the nail by spinning it between my fingers to relieve pressure from the blood on those successive days when it throbbed. No. I was not dumb enough to try using a power drill to speed up the process. LOL




    When I was on the service (a Hospital Corpsman) to relieve pressure under a nail we would straighten a paperclip, heat up one end and use the heated end on the nail to burn through the nail.

    I have seen that treatment performed twice. The first time was when Son #1 was a toddler and dragged out Mrs. j's 12 inch by 12 inch by 1 1/2 inches thick maple cutting board from under the kitchen sink and dropped it on the big toe of his left foot. Took him to the pediatrician and the doctor laid him on his work bench, straightened out a paper clip, heated it with a match and melted through his toe nail. Worked liked charm.

    The second time was when I whacked my left thumb with a hammer while I was playing carpenter one Saturday. Hurt like hell and got worse as the day progressed. By about midnight I had enough and decided to go to the hospital. The emergency room doctor took one look at my thumb and said, "I have a fix for that, you're gonna feel a lot better in a minute". He got out a paper clip and used a Bunsen Burner to heat it up and when he melted through the nail, my thumb felt better instantly, but it was a little humorous to see the fountain of blood dance up and down a few times as the pressure was relieved. I remember saying to the doctor that I expected a little more sophisticated treatment from a hospital to which he said, "Why? This has probably been done for centuries. If it ain't broke we don't fix it. I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I've done this".

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    fintail said:
    V12-V16 Cadillac from around 1930 - another fairly valuable car.
    ok another
    yep 1930 Cadillac roadster with a V-16.

    you guys are good, but I do have one that will likely stump the group.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    fintail said:
    You're telling me the green car nearest the Topolino isn't a Porsche? image Are we looking at different cars? I'll wager 10 years salary that the green car is a Porsche ;) Same for the silver/grey car beside it (man in a hat between them) being a Silver Arrow (or fastidious re-creation). Maybe the grouping got disorganized.
    Nope on both accounts, no Piece Arrows were there and all the Porsches were grouped together. Where there were a lot of one particular make they were all grouped together.
    it might be but it would be in the wrong location. But there were no Pierce Arrows there. 

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    tjc78 said:

    Hedge trimmers are dangerous ... I’ve had a close call or two.  I’ve also clipped the extension cord a few times.  

    Makita makes a nice cordless one. I have their edge trimmer and smallest recip saw for garden work and I'm quite pleased--of course this isn't for a golf course.
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2018
    Hudson is my guess - just because of the “H” on the wheels.  But that white car is a Mercedes-Benz!

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    edited August 2018
    do y'all know about the mystery cars discussion?
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/4285/general/x/mystery-car-pix#latest

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594


    fintail said:

    You're telling me the green car nearest the Topolino isn't a Porsche?

    image

    Are we looking at different cars? I'll wager 10 years salary that the green car is a Porsche ;)

    Same for the silver/grey car beside it (man in a hat between them) being a Silver Arrow (or fastidious re-creation). Maybe the grouping got disorganized.



    Nope on both accounts, no Piece Arrows were there and all the Porsches were grouped together. Where there were a lot of one particular make they were all grouped together.


    it might be but it would be in the wrong location. But there were no Pierce Arrows there. 

    The gray one looks too modern to be a Pierce Arrow. I think it looks more like a Hudson Hornet;

    Agree, the green one is a Porsche, even if it is in the wrong section.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    abacomike said:
    Hudson is my guess - just because of the “H” on the wheels.  But that white car is a Mercedes-Benz!
    nope not a hudson.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    It's a Silver Arrow. They have very distinctive two-toning, and the rear window is unique. You can see a sliver of it in snake's pic:

    image
    ab348 said:

    ^^^ That is a Cadillac V-16 roadster. Oh my. The poly cover to protect the top is a later addition of course.

    I am stumped by the fastback sedan in the background of the previous pic. I thought at first it might be a Tatra or a Skoda but couldn't come up with anything that looked close. The roofline above the rear window has me intrigued, though I cannot tell for sure if it is a trick of the light that I am seeing.

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    edited August 2018
    Not to beat a dead horse, but I've learned in my middle ages here that learning about the motivations of humans can be beneficial in understanding their viewpoints and world-view.

    As such, I wanted to ask the knowledgeable among us:

    What do you think is the NHTSA's motivation for misleading the public about speed being a factor in the causation of collisions & fatalities? They resort to grouping drunk driving speeders with regular speeders instead of separating drunk driving from speeding statistically.

    In my view, no one in their right mind would combine a drunk that speeds and crashes with a normal speeder. To do so suggests an evil plot in my worldview. I have no credibility given to the NHTSA due to this.

    How about you? Is it a "shock and awe" campaign where the truth doesn't matter?
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,030

    First concert.....my (then) girlfriend dragged me to it. I think I was 17 and I had a car. She needed a ride. Loggins and Messina. I think they broke up like a month after we saw them. I was more of a Clash, Ramones and Red Hot Chili Peppers type lover.

    However, I’ll give her credit, Loggins and Messina put on a helluva show and showed some serious musical chops. They had a really good band behind them, too. Plus, they played for nearly 3 hours. Not much for their soft stuff. But, once they put on their electric gear, they jammed.

    These days? I think I’ve mellowed. I like Dianna Krall, The Avett Brothers and just heard a really good jazz singer while I was out West on a business trip a month or so ago.....Melissa Morgan. Just excellent!

    Not a huge jazz fan, but Diana Krall is a wonderful singer. Her albums are also very well produced.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    andres3 said:

    Not to beat a dead horse,

    Too late, you just did.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,525
    1st Concert? Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814 in March of 1989. Madison Square Garden. Back when New York City was still tough. After the concert was over, a guy pulled out a gun and fired 2 shots into the air just as everyone was leaving. The cops were on him like white on rice. Beat his [non-permissible content removed] down.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    andres3 said:
    Not to beat a dead horse, but I've learned in my middle ages here that learning about the motivations of humans can be beneficial in understanding their viewpoints and world-view. As such, I wanted to ask the knowledgeable among us: What do you think is the NHTSA's motivation for misleading the public about speed being a factor in the causation of collisions & fatalities? They resort to grouping drunk driving speeders with regular speeders instead of separating drunk driving from speeding statistically. In my view, no one in their right mind would combine a drunk that speeds and crashes with a normal speeder. To do so suggests an evil plot in my worldview. I have no credibility given to the NHTSA due to this. How about you? Is it a "shock and awe" campaign where the truth doesn't matter?
    Not to get into it with you on this (this will be my only post regarding it) but just because you disagree with them doesn't mean they are lying. There is ample proof that speed is a contributing factor in many accidents and does increase the severity of an accident. And there is ample proof that driving faster is inherently more dangerous. 

    Not that you would ever agree with that.

    There I said my peace and will say no more.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    Speaking of SiriusXM, I just got my Amex bill and found a charge for $122.25 to SiriusXM, made on 7/26/2018. I obviously failed to get ahead of that one, my mistake. They used to notify me in advance before they auto-renewed, but that seems to be no longer true.

    So I called them on the phone and gave them some h-e-double-l for not notifying me in advance, asked to cancel, got switched to customer retention, and wound up paying $42.05 for the next 6 months. But I am on the hook $21 for this last month’s service, no way out of that, water under the bridge.

    Next, I called Amex and asked them why I wasn’t notified of the charge. I have my account set to notify me of all charges where the credit card is not present, and normally Amex is quite good about that. The answer is they don’t notify you of a recurring payment, the company doing the recurring payment is supposed to notify you. Which of course, SiriusXM did not do, being the sneaky underhanded business that they are. So I have this in my calendar now for Feb 25, 2019 (2 days before the next renewal.

    I hate SiriusXM. Or, more correctly, I hate their business practices, but like their product. And of course they have no real competition, unless you want to subscribe to a streaming service on your phone (which I don’t really want to do). Not nearly as convenient as the built in SiriusXM in new cars.

    Hmmm… If I were to go over to a streaming service (spotify, or whatever) – do they have “channels” like SiriusXM? With Android AutoPlay, do you get the same information on your dash as you do with SiriusXM (song title, artist, etc)?
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,461
    Pandora has channels, yes. Not quite the same but close enough.

    My kids new Jetta doesn’t have XM so she is getting used to streaming Spotify (she had premium) and probably Pandora. She can make playlists from Spotify on her phone so doesn’t have to data stream in the car. I could do that in my car, but mostly on short drives would just listen to old fashioned FM fo convenience.

    Won’t really work in the wife’s car though. And she would never want to deal with it!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    venture said:

    A picture of the hood of my Legacy after washing it.


    3 Subaru's in the fleet! Must be serving you well!
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,323
    edited August 2018
    I have said my piece on the scummy, shady, underhanded business practices of SXM on here enough. Glad I no longer play their game. It's a shame nobody with any sort of business ethics hasn't taken them over.

    One thing I will give them credit for though. During the time I had it I found I only listened to a few channels regularly, Classic Rewind, 80s on 8 and a couple of others. I also found their playlists were not particularly deep, so you would hear many of the same songs with some frequency if you stayed with it long enough. I learned from those things that I liked certain songs or artists I had forgotten about, and was sick of some others. I used that knowledge when I was building my music library and playlists to put on a USB stick that now has taken their place in my car. Do not miss SXM one little bit.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,461
    My take on Some of the agencies that are basically run by the insurance industry is that they definitely have an agenda, and spin things based on pushing that. Plenty of government entities are grinding axes. Look at CARB.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938


    andres3 said:

    Not to beat a dead horse, but I've learned in my middle ages here that learning about the motivations of humans can be beneficial in understanding their viewpoints and world-view.

    As such, I wanted to ask the knowledgeable among us:

    What do you think is the NHTSA's motivation for misleading the public about speed being a factor in the causation of collisions & fatalities? They resort to grouping drunk driving speeders with regular speeders instead of separating drunk driving from speeding statistically.

    In my view, no one in their right mind would combine a drunk that speeds and crashes with a normal speeder. To do so suggests an evil plot in my worldview. I have no credibility given to the NHTSA due to this.

    How about you? Is it a "shock and awe" campaign where the truth doesn't matter?

    Not to get into it with you on this (this will be my only post regarding it) but just because you disagree with them doesn't mean they are lying. There is ample proof that speed is a contributing factor in many accidents and does increase the severity of an accident. And there is ample proof that driving faster is inherently more dangerous. 

    Not that you would ever agree with that.

    There I said my peace and will say no more.

    I think you missed the main point of my post though! It was not about the NHTSA lying, but about them misleading people by combining drunk drivers that speed with normal un-intoxicated drivers that speed.

    If there really is ample proof of the things you write about, why pad the proof with such utter deception and flawed analysis?

    It would be like the Red Sox's claiming they won a lot more World Series' by counting every single time they were thwarted from reaching the World Series by the Yankees or other superior AL team as a WS win.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938


    andres3 said:

    Not to beat a dead horse, but I've learned in my middle ages here that learning about the motivations of humans can be beneficial in understanding their viewpoints and world-view.

    As such, I wanted to ask the knowledgeable among us:

    What do you think is the NHTSA's motivation for misleading the public about speed being a factor in the causation of collisions & fatalities? They resort to grouping drunk driving speeders with regular speeders instead of separating drunk driving from speeding statistically.

    In my view, no one in their right mind would combine a drunk that speeds and crashes with a normal speeder. To do so suggests an evil plot in my worldview. I have no credibility given to the NHTSA due to this.

    How about you? Is it a "shock and awe" campaign where the truth doesn't matter?

    Not to get into it with you on this (this will be my only post regarding it) but just because you disagree with them doesn't mean they are lying. There is ample proof that speed is a contributing factor in many accidents and does increase the severity of an accident. And there is ample proof that driving faster is inherently more dangerous. 

    Not that you would ever agree with that.

    There I said my peace and will say no more.

    I think you missed the main point of my post though! It was not about the NHTSA lying, but about them misleading people by combining drunk drivers that speed with normal un-intoxicated drivers that speed.

    If there really is ample proof of the things you write about, why pad the proof with such utter deception and flawed analysis?

    It would be like the Red Sox's claiming they won a lot more World Series' by counting every single time they were thwarted from reaching the World Series by the Yankees or other superior AL team as a WS win.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    Follow up question on Sirius, more specifically Sirius Traffic. My new F150 has built in navigation, which I have never used. I tried one time, gave up after about 60 seconds and just used google maps on my phone. But apparently I have a 5 year subscription to Sirius Traffic for free, and I think this provides real time traffic information to the built in navigation system.

    My question is, have any of you actually used this and if so how good is it? I use google maps to figure out a route before I leave the house, and then usually use Waze for traffic alerts once I'm on the road.

    I did a google search "sirius traffic vs waze" which lead me to this, which I found hilarious:

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    Apple Maps: Our artisanal cartographers hope you enjoy this pleasant journey. 28 min

    Google Maps: Our algorithm has determined an optimal path for the most efficient route given current traffic conditions. 25 min

    Waze: Drive through this dude's living room. 17 min
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,030
    The new IOS is supposed to support WAZE through Apple Car Play.. this will be huge!  It’s only a matter of time before built in NAV goes the way of built in CD players in cars. 

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    tjc78 said:

    The new IOS is supposed to support WAZE through Apple Car Play.. this will be huge!  It’s only a matter of time before built in NAV goes the way of built in CD players in cars. 

    Basically, I agree with what you're saying. Except that CD players have not yet gone the way of the dodo bird (extinct). I expect that they will, but I don't see it happening just yet.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    henryn said:

    Follow up question on Sirius, more specifically Sirius Traffic. My new F150 has built in navigation, which I have never used. I tried one time, gave up after about 60 seconds and just used google maps on my phone. But apparently I have a 5 year subscription to Sirius Traffic for free, and I think this provides real time traffic information to the built in navigation system.

    My question is, have any of you actually used this and if so how good is it? I use google maps to figure out a route before I leave the house, and then usually use Waze for traffic alerts once I'm on the road.

    I did a google search "sirius traffic vs waze" which lead me to this, which I found hilarious:

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    Apple Maps: Our artisanal cartographers hope you enjoy this pleasant journey. 28 min

    Google Maps: Our algorithm has determined an optimal path for the most efficient route given current traffic conditions. 25 min

    Waze: Drive through this dude's living room. 17 min

    I have used both Sirius traffic and Waze. Waze won, hands down. I used both one day and, when the roads diverged, I took the one sirius traveled. It took me into hell. After about 30-40 mins, I surrendered back to Waze and it took me back out of hell and home in no time.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    @snakeweasel,
    How about a Huppmobile?
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    I found the nav in my f150 pretty easy to use.
    Type in the destination address, press another button to confirm and off you go.
    Traffic seems to work well.
    One time, it routed us around Saginaw. We stopped to eat then merged back onto our original route further south.
    When we merged back on, I started noticing some of the same cars we had been running with before we detoured.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,461
    With car play, I won’t pay extra for Navi. But I like it, because the screen can always be up when driving. Just to glance at even if not using.

    I rarely take my phone out and plug it in. Pretty much only if need to navigate. Otherwise stays in my pocket mostly

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,360
    andres3 said:

    Not to beat a dead horse, but I've learned in my middle ages here that learning about the motivations of humans can be beneficial in understanding their viewpoints and world-view.

    As such, I wanted to ask the knowledgeable among us:

    What do you think is the NHTSA's motivation for misleading the public about speed being a factor in the causation of collisions & fatalities? They resort to grouping drunk driving speeders with regular speeders instead of separating drunk driving from speeding statistically.

    In my view, no one in their right mind would combine a drunk that speeds and crashes with a normal speeder. To do so suggests an evil plot in my worldview. I have no credibility given to the NHTSA due to this.

    How about you? Is it a "shock and awe" campaign where the truth doesn't matter?

    I'll only make one comment; the only thing that would surprise me is if NHTSA and the Safety [non-permissible content removed] DIDN'T use statistical trickery to get the numbers that they release- and which are then breathlessly repeated by media droneswho would never think of questioning their validity.
    To quote David E. Davis Jr., I possess the "Kentuckian's healthy mistrust of government."

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    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,077
    henryn said:

    tjc78 said:

    The new IOS is supposed to support WAZE through Apple Car Play.. this will be huge!  It’s only a matter of time before built in NAV goes the way of built in CD players in cars. 

    Basically, I agree with what you're saying. Except that CD players have not yet gone the way of the dodo bird (extinct). I expect that they will, but I don't see it happening just yet.
    I don’t think my current vehicles have them. But I don’t own CDs any more, so all good.
    On another note, a few months ago WAZE was routing unsuspecting drivers through closed streets full of mud and boulders in Montecito, so I appreciate the “drive through some dude’s living room” joke!
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    Screen on my BMW with Nav is much larger and nicer than standard non-nav screen. I also has much niced knob. They now package it with other stuff in a way that makes more sense than it used to, i.e. if you get it as a part of a package, it's discounted by at least 500 bucks vs. a standalone option. At least that's how it was, when I bought mine.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    @snakeweasel, How about a Huppmobile?
    That's it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    suydam said:

    henryn said:

    tjc78 said:

    The new IOS is supposed to support WAZE through Apple Car Play.. this will be huge!  It’s only a matter of time before built in NAV goes the way of built in CD players in cars. 

    Basically, I agree with what you're saying. Except that CD players have not yet gone the way of the dodo bird (extinct). I expect that they will, but I don't see it happening just yet.
    I don’t think my current vehicles have them. But I don’t own CDs any more, so all good.
    On another note, a few months ago WAZE was routing unsuspecting drivers through closed streets full of mud and boulders in Montecito, so I appreciate the “drive through some dude’s living room” joke!
    Are you sure that your vehicles don't have a CD player? It won't be obvious, just a small horizontal slot. Take a look next time you're in your car, I think you will find it.

    I do agree that they are not used much anymore, I can't remember the last time I used one.

    Last year I was traveling up highway 290 (the northwest freeway going out of Houston). 290 has been in a semi-permanent state of being rebuilt for more years than I can remember. All of the old exits had been closed or demolished, and the new temporary exits were few and far between (and often not marked at all). You had to guess where you were, and which exit to take. And if you skipped this one, it might be 4 or 5 miles before you got another chance. Lots of fun.

    So I was using google maps, which kept telling me, "take a right turn onto exit 47a. Turn now." Only, of course, exit 47a had been demolished the week before, and taking a right turn would have been calamitous.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    I can't seem to win with this Dodge. Keep having to stop and wait for a tool or a missing part.

    For example, Removed the cam today finally and got the new one in. It was then I discovered the new one is a single-bolt design vs my old 3-bolt, and they failed to include said bolt in the kit. WTF? I have an email out to Edelbrock now to find out the specs of the needed bolt. 

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,598
    qbrozen said:

    I can't seem to win with this Dodge. Keep having to stop and wait for a tool or a missing part.

    For example, Removed the cam today finally and got the new one in. It was then I discovered the new one is a single-bolt design vs my old 3-bolt, and they failed to include said bolt in the kit. WTF? I have an email out to Edelbrock now to find out the specs of the needed bolt. 

    That is extremely frustrating. Are you rebuilding the engine? Have you determined why it over heats? I tip my hat to you for your persistence and mechanical ability.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,077
    Re CD Player. I know the Volt does not have one. My 2014 Encore might, but I think by 2016 they discontinued it, CDs are kinda like 8 tracks by now. Remember those?!
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    sda said:
    I can't seem to win with this Dodge. Keep having to stop and wait for a tool or a missing part.

    For example, Removed the cam today finally and got the new one in. It was then I discovered the new one is a single-bolt design vs my old 3-bolt, and they failed to include said bolt in the kit. WTF? I have an email out to Edelbrock now to find out the specs of the needed bolt. 
    That is extremely frustrating. Are you rebuilding the engine? Have you determined why it over heats? I tip my hat to you for your persistence and mechanical ability.
    Thanks. It was just 2 days ago I figured out I have the wrong valve springs too. OYe.
    I'm not rebuilding the bottom end. All in all, including previous work, I will have swapped out the following:
    carb
    intake manifold
    cam
    timing chain and gears
    lifters
    valve springs
    valve covers
    water pump/t-stat
    bigger aluminum rad
    headers replaced manifolds
    rebuild steering rack
    power brakes replaced manual
    added air con
    added retro stereo
    replaces ignition wires
    replaced door cards and window sweeps and door handles and locks
    repainted emblems
    rechromed rear panel (gotta get that to someone)

    I don't know the overheating problem; however, I suspect it is a timing/distributor issue. I believe total timing is way out of wack. I have recently purchased an adjustable timing light so I can really dial it in when I get to that point.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think the cd thing is a racket by the music industry. Make cd's obsolete and pretty much force you to pay subscription fees monthly whether streaming or satellite. Whenever money slows down, the industry comes up with a way to force you to buy the music again - 8 track to cassette to cd to today. The car industry needs room for bigger LED screens, but honestly, how much of a that stuff do you actually use very frequently? I suspect it is cheaper to dump the cd player and replace it with a slightly bigger screen, so more to do with cost savings than music changing on their part. You are going to buy the vehicle at some point regardless, right? I'm kind of surprised the car industry hasn't turned around and offered the cd player in an out of way place at a huge option price really.
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2018
    qbrozen said:
    sda said:
    I can't seem to win with this Dodge. Keep having to stop and wait for a tool or a missing part.

    For example, Removed the cam today finally and got the new one in. It was then I discovered the new one is a single-bolt design vs my old 3-bolt, and they failed to include said bolt in the kit. WTF? I have an email out to Edelbrock now to find out the specs of the needed bolt. 
    That is extremely frustrating. Are you rebuilding the engine? Have you determined why it over heats? I tip my hat to you for your persistence and mechanical ability.
    Thanks. It was just 2 days ago I figured out I have the wrong valve springs too. OYe.
    I'm not rebuilding the bottom end. All in all, including previous work, I will have swapped out the following:
    carb
    intake manifold
    cam
    timing chain and gears
    lifters
    valve springs
    valve covers
    water pump/t-stat
    bigger aluminum rad
    headers replaced manifolds
    rebuild steering rack
    power brakes replaced manual
    added air con
    added retro stereo
    replaces ignition wires
    replaced door cards and window sweeps and door handles and locks
    repainted emblems
    rechromed rear panel (gotta get that to someone)

    I don't know the overheating problem; however, I suspect it is a timing/distributor issue. I believe total timing is way out of wack. I have recently purchased an adjustable timing light so I can really dial it in when I get to that point.
    Show-off!  qbrozen - your post above made me feel terribly inept when it comes to the inner workings of an automobile.  I’m jealous and envious of your knowledge and expertise.  But you don’t have to rub it in.  :'(:D

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,077
    I think CDs are fading out all on their own, since you can put a lot of music on an iPod or memory stick.
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,323
    My previous 2014 ATS had a CD player, an extra-cost option mounted in the glove box. I never used it even once. My current ATS does not have the CD. 

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,372
    qbrozen said:


    sda said:

    qbrozen said:

    I can't seem to win with this Dodge. Keep having to stop and wait for a tool or a missing part.

    For example, Removed the cam today finally and got the new one in. It was then I discovered the new one is a single-bolt design vs my old 3-bolt, and they failed to include said bolt in the kit. WTF? I have an email out to Edelbrock now to find out the specs of the needed bolt. 

    That is extremely frustrating. Are you rebuilding the engine? Have you determined why it over heats? I tip my hat to you for your persistence and mechanical ability.

    Thanks. It was just 2 days ago I figured out I have the wrong valve springs too. OYe.
    I'm not rebuilding the bottom end. All in all, including previous work, I will have swapped out the following:
    carb
    intake manifold
    cam
    timing chain and gears
    lifters
    valve springs
    valve covers
    water pump/t-stat
    bigger aluminum rad
    headers replaced manifolds
    rebuild steering rack
    power brakes replaced manual
    added air con
    added retro stereo
    replaces ignition wires
    replaced door cards and window sweeps and door handles and locks
    repainted emblems
    rechromed rear panel (gotta get that to someone)

    I don't know the overheating problem; however, I suspect it is a timing/distributor issue. I believe total timing is way out of wack. I have recently purchased an adjustable timing light so I can really dial it in when I get to that point.

    WOW, that is lot of work and expense. IMO, they haven't yet made a Dodge that is worth that much effort.

    Just curios, what is an "adjustable timing light"? My tried and true Craftsman that I bought in the early 70's, either flashed or it didn't. There were no adjutments but maybe cars that don't have distributors require that kind of a beast.

    It sounds like you have found a money pit but I wish you luck with it.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,525
    Deck construction - before:


    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,372
    ab348 said:

    My previous 2014 ATS had a CD player, an extra-cost option mounted in the glove box. I never used it even once. My current ATS does not have the CD. 

    My '09 GENNY had a 6 deck CD changer. Mrs. j's '12 Legacy has a single CD changer and so does my '15 GENNY. When they do away with CD changers altogether, I'll have no choice but to use music sticks or learn how to use the gazillion bit processors they put in cars today. But, it will more than likely enforce why I'll continue to get satellite radio.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
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