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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,365

    ab348 said:

    Sometime in the last day or so the fix for the iPhone/Safari login problem finally got rolled out so I am now logged in that way. Another seam in the seamless transition mended!

    Still can't get here from my iPad. Too outdated I guess.
    Knock off some of the rust and see if that helps. :o

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321

    jmonroe1 said:


    When I find him I'll let you know. But before he left I was given permission to use his name. Almost like the poor guy is still with us.jmonroe

    Is Jmonroe who the wake at Abaco's is for?

    I had the same thought (holds hat over heart, bows head in memory of @jmonroe ).

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited September 2018
    When I find him I'll let you know. But before he left I was given permission to use his name. Almost like the poor guy is still with us.jmonroe
    Is Jmonroe who the wake at Abaco's is for?
    Don’t think so - the deceased was a widow and as far as I know jmonroe is a guy (so he says), and Mrs. jmonroe is alive and well, as is jmonroe1.  :DB)

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    henryn said:

    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.

    Yes, the brake line replacement won't be cheap, but It's rarely cost me more than around $200 per year to keep the Wrangler in good shape over the 16 years I have owned it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Sometime in the last day or so the fix for the iPhone/Safari login problem finally got rolled out so I am now logged in that way. Another seam in the seamless transition mended!
    Still can't get here from my iPad. Too outdated I guess.
    You or the iPad?  :D

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321

    ab348 said:

    Sometime in the last day or so the fix for the iPhone/Safari login problem finally got rolled out so I am now logged in that way. Another seam in the seamless transition mended!

    Still can't get here from my iPad. Too outdated I guess.
    Mine, which is a 2012 iPad3 I discovered upon researching it, took over 5 minutes to bring up the login screen the other night.

    The other goofy thing I have encountered in each case of finally getting logged in is that you still aren't really logged into the forums until you go to the "research" tab on the main Edmunds site, find the "Car Forums" entry, go to that and pick a forum to view. Once there then the box in the right side appears with the links to My Bookmarks, etc. For whatever reason that was the only way I could get back here after logging in.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238
    thebean said:

    Interesting thoughts by everyone, especially @ab348 in that people have no problem identifying as "poor" to get free things. I don't have a problem with free or subsidized school lunches. But, here in Dallas, they are starting to push to provide free breakfasts also and a free meal before the child leaves school in the late afternoon. What kind of motivation does that give a parent to provide for their children when three meals are provided if they ask and meet some sort of loose guideline? I don't understand it, really.

    I apologize if I'm running this into the ground. I'll be quiet about it now.

    Speaking as an ex-social worker the question of who is the "deserving poor" has been debated for over a hundred years. I personally raised a family, built a house and saved money for the kids' education while making as little as $12k a year. We never took free lunches even though the income limit was $70,000.

    How did we do it? As Fintail suggested, we worked three jobs and bootstrapped it.. Didn't take vacations and drove junkers. Was it easy? Heck no. But our kids never went hungry, always had school supplies and I hope learned the value of work. I'm not saying that some folks don't need the help but some are using a system designed by corrupt vote buying politicians to get a freed ride.

    The problem is that there is no easy way to weed out deserving and undeserving people.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238

    Test rides:
    BMW drives yesterday
    430i coupe
    M240

    wow; I can see why RR likes the M240-- what a rocket with ~400hp;
    430i nice but not trying to find CPO 440 after driving M240, but more of a grand Tourer than M240

    dealer wants me to order

    We've got a few 430i hardtop verts in the fleet. Comfortable but no drag racers. I was drooling over the M240s when we were moving BMWs from a dealer the other day. Didn't realize they had that much power.

    Now I'm really drooling. ;)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238

    I put it off as long as I could, but I’m finally getting the brake lines replaced on the Wrangler. They were all rusty and one finally popped yesterday. Fortunately I was able to pull into a parking lot and await a tow to my indie shop. At least it’s another plus when I go to sell it.

    I thought you were in the sunny south, where is the rust coming from? Up here Wranglers also tend to get frame rust just behind the rear axle.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238


    henryn said:

    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.

    As the south suburbs of Chicago is the farthest south I have ever spent a winter and I routinely keep cars 10 years or longer I can honestly say I have never needed to replace brake lines.

    Where I live rusted brake lines are the harbinger of death for a car. Usually, gas lines, fuel filler necks, tanks and finally frames are soon to go.

    Did I mention I just had to spend $1300 putting a new fuel tank in my wife's car? Maybe I ought to buy that Caddy with the tank treads someone posted a while ago.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    or dump the PT for something newer and not rusted.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    edited September 2018

    Test rides:
    BMW drives yesterday
    430i coupe
    M240

    wow; I can see why RR likes the M240-- what a rocket with ~400hp;
    430i nice but not trying to find CPO 440 after driving M240, but more of a grand Tourer than M240

    dealer wants me to order

    The N55 motor in the M240i is rated at 335 hp. The new M2 Competition does have 405 hp.
    The M240i has a bit longer gearing than the M235i, so the M240i doesn't pull ahead until around 70 mph- it winds up being a half second faster to 100 mph.

    If I went with another 2er I'd order it so I could delete the sunroof. An M2 or M2C is much less likely to have a hole in the roof, so I will probably go CPO.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    edited September 2018


    henryn said:

    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.

    As the south suburbs of Chicago is the farthest south I have ever spent a winter and I routinely keep cars 10 years or longer I can honestly say I have never needed to replace brake lines.
    Where I live rusted brake lines are the harbinger of death for a car. Usually, gas lines, fuel filler necks, tanks and finally frames are soon to go.

    Did I mention I just had to spend $1300 putting a new fuel tank in my wife's car? Maybe I ought to buy that Caddy with the tank treads someone posted a while ago.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- end quotes =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    That's a lot of money to replace a fuel tank. I replaced a few gas tanks when I was younger, they tended to rust out before the rest of the car. This being in Texas, no salt. It was pretty easy 40 or 50 years ago to swap out a gas tank. The last time I dropped one was on a 1984 Ford F150, to replace the sender for the fuel gauge, and that was relatively easy, half a day.

    It seems that many (most?) newer cars have the fuel pump in the gas tank, high pressure gas lines, evaporative
    control systems, all kinds of things to make the job harder and more expensive. Oh, well. (big sigh)
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,075

    thebean said:

    Interesting thoughts by everyone, especially @ab348 in that people have no problem identifying as "poor" to get free things. I don't have a problem with free or subsidized school lunches. But, here in Dallas, they are starting to push to provide free breakfasts also and a free meal before the child leaves school in the late afternoon. What kind of motivation does that give a parent to provide for their children when three meals are provided if they ask and meet some sort of loose guideline? I don't understand it, really.

    I apologize if I'm running this into the ground. I'll be quiet about it now.

    Speaking as an ex-social worker the question of who is the "deserving poor" has been debated for over a hundred years. I personally raised a family, built a house and saved money for the kids' education while making as little as $12k a year. We never took free lunches even though the income limit was $70,000.

    How did we do it? As Fintail suggested, we worked three jobs and bootstrapped it.. Didn't take vacations and drove junkers. Was it easy? Heck no. But our kids never went hungry, always had school supplies and I hope learned the value of work. I'm not saying that some folks don't need the help but some are using a system designed by corrupt vote buying politicians to get a freed ride.

    The problem is that there is no easy way to weed out deserving and undeserving people.
    I did that too — oh wait, that was in 1979. Gas was less than a dollar a gallon, you could get a decent used car for a few hundred $$, and my first house cost less than my car today. What you could do back then can’t be done for the same amount as now. The working poor do all the things you say. They just have to have more $ to make ends meet because everything costs more. That’s why the poverty line is higher.
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238
    abacomike said:

    Got home about an hour ago from my trip.  As I was approaching my parking space, I noticed the entire parking lot was filled with cars, including my parking space and all the guest spaces.  So I parked perpendicular behind the car that was in my spot and called security.

    About 5 minutes later, a security cop arrived in his squad car.  I explained the problem to him.  He said a lady in one of our condo units had passed away last Friday and the reason every parking space was occupied was because the family was receiving guests after the funeral this morning.  I asked him where I should park my car until he could determine whose car it was so it could be moved.  He suggested I park in the main guest parking lot 4 blocks away.

    Just as I was about to pull my car from behind the vehicle in my reserved spot, one of the mourners visiting came over and said it would be 6 hours before the car would be moved - the ending time for visitors to the family.  I asked that the car be moved NOW because I just returned from a 5 hour trip from Jacksonville and was in no condition to walk 4 blocks to park my car.

    The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!”  The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately.  This guy told the security officer to f...off!  Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully!  The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB.  Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.

    I tell you - I have no luck in this world - all I did was call security - I didn’t know someone had died.  And even so, I had no place to park and I was exhausted from the long drive.  My parking spot is my property and states so in my deed and homeowners association contract.

    Now I’ll have a ghost haunting me for wanting to park in my own space.  I give up!  :o:'(

    Watch your back Mike, after I called police on the woman who boldly walked into my living room my son's tire was slashed. Can't prove that they did it in retaliation but it seems an odd coincidence.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,075
    Once you found out it was for a funeral, you didn’t think of backing off?
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238
    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    Sometime in the last day or so the fix for the iPhone/Safari login problem finally got rolled out so I am now logged in that way. Another seam in the seamless transition mended!

    Still can't get here from my iPad. Too outdated I guess.
    Knock off some of the rust and see if that helps. :o

    jmonroe
    That's not rust, it's patina. :p

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,238
    stickguy said:

    or dump the PT for something newer and not rusted.

    One more year and it gets passed on to my son who can mile it up doing Uber.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    Attending a funeral, or a wake, or "receiving guests after a funeral" does not give you the right to trespass. These people are very obviously not used to life in the big city. Here, in Houston, if you park in a reserved parking space, and leave the car for several hours, the odds are very high that it will be towed. No one will look for you, or ask you politely to move your car. It will just be gone. Period.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267
    Today, I saw two new 2019 Jettas, both with paper plates. I don't fully remember what the previous gen looked like, but these new ones are handsome vehicles. I was very impressed.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    I think they are much more distinctive, without being overwrought like a lot of cars these days.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    My story about parking for a funeral.

    Back around 2002 or 2003, we had a big fifth wheel travel trailer, which we pulled with a big Ford diesel F250. Anyone familiar with big heavy travel trailers will tell you that they tend to eat tires. Blowing out tires is just part of the overhead. Whenever I set out on a trip, I always had at least two spares.

    One day I’m driving down a 2 lane state highway, no real shoulders, and blow out one of the tires on the travel trailer. We were just coming in to a small town, right there in front of me was a funeral home, with a nice big empty parking lot. I figure 10 minutes to jack up the trailer and swap the tire, no big deal. I was quite practiced at swapping tires on that rig. So I pull into the parking lot, taking up a great deal of space, and start doing my thing.

    No sooner do I have the rig up on the jack, and cars start pulling in. One after the other, a solid stream. Apparently they had a service of some kind, or a viewing, or something, scheduled for 5:00 p.m., and I parked in their parking lot at 4:55. Being a small town, everyone living close by, they all show up at the same time, at the last minute. The director or head man or whatever comes out and asks me politely if I can move. I tell him, “Man, I’m really sorry, I had no idea. I’m working as fast as I can, I will be out of here in 5 minutes.”

    It was really very embarrassing, one of those things you don’t forget.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited September 2018
    henryn said:

    Attending a funeral, or a wake, or "receiving guests after a funeral" does not give you the right to trespass. These people are very obviously not used to life in the big city. .

    The resident who was using the apartment for a gathering after the funeral should have had the courtesy to remind people there are parking spaces or guests and to not occupy spaces for residents.

    The rudeness comes from the folks doing the after-gathering. This rudeness has increased the last several years to the level exemplified by the person telling the security guard and Mike to fly a kite about his space that he owns. I see parallels to the attitudes through society today that whatever I want is the way it's gonna be and that if you don't agree with my biased thinking then you're crazy as the rest. No consideration for property and rights.

    In fact, it's paralleled in the way people think they should be given a living, from EBT cards, WIC, school supplies, free lunches, social security disability that's not real, subsidies for unwed mothers, etc.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    suydam said:
    Once you found out it was for a funeral, you didn’t think of backing off?
    Yes!  I was going to park 4 blocks away until a visitor told me I had to wait 6 hours before I could get my parking space back.  I don’t like being dictated to about when I can park in my designated spot.

    It was not a funeral - just visitors who came back to the condo AFTER the funeral.  The guy who took my spot was there as a visitor - not at a funeral.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Attending a funeral, or a wake, or "receiving guests after a funeral" does not give you the right to trespass. These people are very obviously not used to life in the big city. .
    The resident who was using the apartment for a gathering after the funeral should have had the courtesy to remind people there are parking spaces or guests and to not occupy spaces for residents. The rudeness comes from the folks doing the after-gathering. This rudeness has increased the last several years to the level exemplified by the person telling the security guard and Mike to fly a kite about his space that he owns. I see parallels to the attitudes through society today that whatever I want is the way it's gonna be and that if you don't agree with my biased thinking then you're crazy as the rest. No consideration for property and rights. In fact, it's paralleled in the way people think they should be given a living, from EBT cards, WIC, school supplies, free lunches, social security disability that's not real, subsidies for unwed mothers, etc.
    Thanks, imid - you understand my anger about this.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    henryn said:
    Attending a funeral, or a wake, or "receiving guests after a funeral" does not give you the right to trespass. These people are very obviously not used to life in the big city. Here, in Houston, if you park in a reserved parking space, and leave the car for several hours, the odds are very high that it will be towed. No one will look for you, or ask you politely to move your car. It will just be gone. Period.
    Thanks for understanding my point of view Henryn.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    jmonroe1 said:

    suydam said:

    That is really awful. I can’t participate in a board that demeans someone’s religion.

    Consider the source.

    jmonroe
    Yes, consider the source and just ignore him as I try to do.
  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,075
    I just meant people at or after a funeral are not always thinking very clearly. I wonder what would happen at our little complex where parking is very limited.
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    jmonroe1 said:

    Well folks, I'm now going to be @jmonroe1 all the time.

    I just tried to sign in on my PC and there was a glitch (got the Howdy Stranger page). I knew this was going to happen sometime and even mentioned it when a lot of us were having our problems with the new system. If you guys remember or even cared, I was @jmonroe on my PC and @jmonroe1 on my phone. Well not anymore. Get used to it. :@ :@

    jmonroe

    Can we vote whether to accept jmonroe1 as a member? ;)

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    Speaking of the 2 Series; I'm leaning towards keeping mine, installing the M Performance rear diff, and adding a mild tune- something that would bump the hp up to around 370. That should keep me happy for a couple of more years at least...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    jmonroe1 said:


    When I find him I'll let you know. But before he left I was given permission to use his name. Almost like the poor guy is still with us.jmonroe

    Is Jmonroe who the wake at Abaco's is for?

    That is funny. Was it a maroon Hundai I mean Genesis that was in the parking spot?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    Driver, as long as his dues check clears, he is good.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Mike: The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!” The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately. This guy told the security officer to f...off! Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully! The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB. Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.


    And you are the insensitive SOB!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    stickguy said:

    Driver, as long as his dues check clears, he is good.

    and a contract....maximum 100 word posts.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,365
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    Well folks, I'm now going to be @jmonroe1 all the time.

    I just tried to sign in on my PC and there was a glitch (got the Howdy Stranger page). I knew this was going to happen sometime and even mentioned it when a lot of us were having our problems with the new system. If you guys remember or even cared, I was @jmonroe on my PC and @jmonroe1 on my phone. Well not anymore. Get used to it. :@ :@

    jmonroe

    Can we vote whether to accept jmonroe1 as a member? ;)
    While you were out a vote was taken and I'm in. Just one problem, we now have one too many members and someone has to go. Stick around for the next vote, you'll never guess whose name was mentioned the most often as the one to be whacked. :o

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267
    driver100 said:

    Mike: The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!” The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately. This guy told the security officer to f...off! Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully! The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB. Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.


    And you are the insensitive SOB!
    Driver, are you serious with this comment, or are you bring facetious? Just curious.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    driver100 said:
    Mike: The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!” The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately. This guy told the security officer to f...off! Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them. This did not end peacefully! The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB. Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.
    And you are the insensitive SOB!
    That’s me - and today I will wear the label proudly!  :DB)

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • DrivingfoolDrivingfool Member Posts: 227
    Many folks today are quite rude especially here in South Florida. Had the same situation with someone but she used our driveway, of course parking on my wife's side. Went next door and asked the lady to move her vehicle off my property and she was super nasty about it. Funny thing is, she refused to park on the street like all the others did and which there was plenty of room. Whatever I thought as I went back inside. At least ask first!!

    The Driving Fool :)B)

    or is that "The Sandman"???? Totally confused now!!! And now the laptop is now "The Driving Fool"!
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Many folks today are quite rude especially here in South Florida. Had the same situation with someone but she used our driveway, of course parking on my wife's side. Went next door and asked the lady to move her vehicle off my property and she was super nasty about it. Funny thing is, she refused to park on the street like all the others did and which there was plenty of room. Whatever I thought as I went back inside. At least ask first!! The Driving Fool :)B) or is that "The Sandman"???? Totally confused now!!! And now the laptop is now "The Driving Fool"!
    I agree, Sandy.  We must constantly remind ourselves that we live in “God’s Waiting Room” here in South Florida.  People tend to have less patience, less tolerance, and less of their lives remaining.  But that does not dismiss the fact that the general population down here is just waiting for the inevitable.  Sad, isn’t it!  :'(B)

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    Free lunches for kids unlucky enough to be born to parents with poor decisions or bad luck at a time when low wage jobs provide less than in more than half a century (and less than when the luckiest/"me" generation was getting theirs) is a "living"? OK then.



    In fact, it's paralleled in the way people think they should be given a living, from EBT cards, WIC, school supplies, free lunches, social security disability that's not real, subsidies for unwed mothers, etc.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,464
    Exactly. Not to mention if you adjust minimum wage to any measure of CPI from say 1968 to today, the wage would need to be significantly higher to keep up with virtually any cost of living factor.

    And housing costs, don't get me started - houses that cost 3x salary back when those with fortunate timing were starting out are 8x or more equivalent salary today, at least in my area. Rents can be commensurate. And then there's healthcare, education, etc to deal with.

    My prior line about bootstrapping and working three jobs was snark.
    suydam said:

    <
    I did that too — oh wait, that was in 1979. Gas was less than a dollar a gallon, you could get a decent used car for a few hundred $$, and my first house cost less than my car today. What you could do back then can’t be done for the same amount as now. The working poor do all the things you say. They just have to have more $ to make ends meet because everything costs more. That’s why the poverty line is higher.

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Checked out the specs on the new iPhone Xr - $749,00 cash price seems reasonable less $295 for trade in of my 7+.  That’s a net of about $450 + tax + Applecare + glass screen saver + case.  So I estimate the final cost to be about $710.

    I usually get a new iPhone every two years.  This Xr might be more than I need or will ever use.

    I will weigh the pros and cons and make a decision next month.  I will want to feel it and play with it when it comes in to the Apple Store 10/27/18.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843
    I'm having difficulty justifying $1149 for the 256GB iPhone XS, which is what I would get. I'm holding out hope that iOS 12 helps deal with a lot of the issues I have with my iPhone 7 (not optimistic).

    Despite what it may look like on CCBA I've been working to simplify our monthly outlay to put towards Sam's college and the idea of paying $1149 for a new phone doesn't really appeal right now. But at it's current pace, my iPhone 7 will be virtually unusable by Christmas.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    fintail said:
    Free lunches for kids unlucky enough to be born to parents with poor decisions or bad luck at a time when low wage jobs provide less than in more than half a century (and less than when the luckiest/"me" generation was getting theirs) is a "living"? OK then.
    In fact, it's paralleled in the way people think they should be given a living, from EBT cards, WIC, school supplies, free lunches, social security disability that's not real, subsidies for unwed mothers, etc.
    While there are many people who truly are in need of this assistance there is also a lot of fraud and a lot of people gaming the system. There are people out there that are poor by choice, the know how to maximize benefits like WIC, Section 8 housing, and the like and know how much they can earn not to jepodize those benefits and maximize their tax refund with EIC. Once they earned that amount they stop working. I see this all the time.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321

    I'm having difficulty justifying $1149 for the 256GB iPhone XS, which is what I would get. I'm holding out hope that iOS 12 helps deal with a lot of the issues I have with my iPhone 7 (not optimistic).

    I just got a new iPhone7 a few months ago to replace my old 5 and it has been flawless. What kind of issues are you experiencing?

    Given that I still have 20 months to go before any possible upgrade I am not going to change any time soon. I like the more compact size phone anyway.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited September 2018
    I find it amazing what people spend on having the latest phones and what they spend to the carriers for the privilege of buying those phones and having airtime!

    I recall long ago how T (Telephone) would push people into their newest office phone service by making the cost of the not-so-old systems very high to repair or maintain. Of course T (Telephone, Ma Bell) is not able to do that anymore.

    I can't believe an IPhone 7 should be unusable. Is this related to the battery slowdown Apple admitted to a year ago and offered a replacement battery at a moderate price?

    Like Oldfarmer has said, I pay under $100 for a recent Android phone and have service on a name brand carrier which touts the greatest coverage (likely true?) of about $100 per year. The cost of the phone released a couple years earlier included a year's service and 1200/1200/1200 minutes/texts/data. I have camera front and back and a flash.

    My son has a Samsung S7 on a similar plan with service on the same great carrier costing about $40 month including taxes. His phone was about $450 purchased when the S8 was the latest and greatest. He'll likely use it another year and then upgrade.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,450
    I’ll nurse my 7 along. So far doing OK. I don’t want to give up my home button! I think apple will regret that move.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321


    While there are many people who truly are in need of this assistance there is also a lot of fraud and a lot of people gaming the system. There are people out there that are poor by choice, the know how to maximize benefits like WIC, Section 8 housing, and the like and know how much they can earn not to jepodize those benefits and maximize their tax refund with EIC. Once they earned that amount they stop working. I see this all the time.

    Up here in socialist Canada that sort of thing has become generally accepted. We have "employment insurance" here like a lot of places do. In seasonal things like fishing and forestry it is a given that those folks will work in-season and then collect EI in the off-season. Nobody seems to care that maybe they could look for another job for those times. Some do of course, but work for cash under the table so there is no record of it.

    I don't particularly care now but when I was still working I paid into that system every payday for 32 years and never once collected a dime from it. Seems less than fair.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,843
    I'm getting less than a full day of charge with minimal usage. Apple says my battery is working fine and that I shouldn't expect an improvement in performance if I replace it. In addition, I'm experiencing generally sluggish app performance, random freezes, crashes etc. Persists despite a full device wipe.

    Luckily my employer reimburses the cost of my phone service, so I don't pay much attention to the service costs. But I pay very close attention to my expenses as it relates to the phone itself, since that is on me.

    I've had this phone for about 2 years now and was hoping to get at least 3.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,321
    thebean said:

    driver100 said:

    Mike: The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!” The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately. This guy told the security officer to f...off! Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully! The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB. Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.


    And you are the insensitive SOB!
    Driver, are you serious with this comment, or are you bring facetious? Just curious.
    I can't speak for driver but I think he meant the ending punctuation to be a question mark, meaning it was the driver of the car who was that person.

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