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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    Wage growth and the socio-economic chasm haven't made much progress in the past 35 or so years. Oops, I hope that isn't "class warfare" (lolol) ;)
    thebean said:

    I don't know if this occurs where you live, but in my area, every year there are more and more "drives" to supply school supplies and backpacks and school clothes to kids whose parents (mostly single mothers) supposedly can't afford this stuff. When I'm approached for a donation, I reply "I wasn't there when they were conceived, so I'm not going to support them now." When I was young, parents would not have been so anxious as these people are to solicit and accept this type of charity. I know my parents would have been mortified if anyone thought they couldn't afford to buy school supplies and clothes. Where is our pride these days?

    It probably sounds cold, but whatever happened to supporting your family? If you can't afford to take care of children, don't have them. I just don't remember this level of charity begging when I was younger.

    Rant over.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    . In 2018, the planned back-to-school expenditure among U.S. households amounted to about 685 U.S. dollars on average.
    STATISTA
    3 or 4 kids, that could really add up.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267
    edited September 2018
    Interesting thoughts by everyone, especially @ab348 in that people have no problem identifying as "poor" to get free things. I don't have a problem with free or subsidized school lunches. But, here in Dallas, they are starting to push to provide free breakfasts also and a free meal before the child leaves school in the late afternoon. What kind of motivation does that give a parent to provide for their children when three meals are provided if they ask and meet some sort of loose guideline? I don't understand it, really.

    I apologize if I'm running this into the ground. I'll be quiet about it now.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    It ensures that children have adequate food security, which plays a significant role in their success in school. If a child is thinking about where their next meal is going to come from, they aren’t focusing on their classes. It’s not about motivating (or not motivating) parents, it’s about setting a child up for success regardless of what their home situation is. 
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    Yeah, they should just work harder so they can provide more, it's just that easy. Maybe one or two jobs isn't enough, three should do. Bootstraps, hard work, winning , being smart, self-made, etc. Or maybe it isn't so easy
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,318
    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge.

    On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    ab348 said:
    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge. On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.
    I’ll bite!  :pB):D

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    You've got to be careful to not extrapolate the acts of a few on the majority.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited September 2018

    These are the wheels I prefer but don't absolutely require

    New potential new ride's stock Nissan wheels.



    I am fine with the black but I also like the other wheel Nissan chose to install that has silver accent "slats" coming in with a slant-fair with the widest spot of silver being at the outside of the wheels.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Saw that the average price for a used car is almost $20,000 now and the average monthly payment on a used car is now $378.

    I can see how higher prices on new vehicles might create more demand and drive up prices on used inventory. But that high a monthly payment almost has to be related to people rolling over remaining amounts on loans and carrying more debt.

    Most I've ever spent on a new car was for our 2014 Versa Note and that was barely over $15K. Likewise, my payments on the Note were $288.

    I get the distinct impression that I'm nowhere near the norm when it comes to piling up debt :)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439
    Looks nice in blue. I also prefer those wheels.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439
    PF_Flyer said:

    Saw that the average price for a used car is almost $20,000 now and the average monthly payment on a used car is now $378.

    I can see how higher prices on new vehicles might create more demand and drive up prices on used inventory. But that high a monthly payment almost has to be related to people rolling over remaining amounts on loans and carrying more debt.

    Most I've ever spent on a new car was for our 2014 Versa Note and that was barely over $15K. Likewise, my payments on the Note were $288.

    I get the distinct impression that I'm nowhere near the norm when it comes to piling up debt :)

    $378 looks about right for a $20k car plus TTL, assuming little down. Because used buyers at that price are probably still financing out as far as new car buyers. 5 years on a brand new car, with a good rate, is OK to me, but no way I am doing that on a 3 YO one.

    I actually use a 5 year look back rule. New car can go 5, then sliding scale to 5YO needs to be cash. So 3 YO car could do 2 years. This also roughly overlays the warranty period (at least powertrain).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    PF_Flyer said:
    Saw that the average price for a used car is almost $20,000 now and the average monthly payment on a used car is now $378. I can see how higher prices on new vehicles might create more demand and drive up prices on used inventory. But that high a monthly payment almost has to be related to people rolling over remaining amounts on loans and carrying more debt. Most I've ever spent on a new car was for our 2014 Versa Note and that was barely over $15K. Likewise, my payments on the Note were $288. I get the distinct impression that I'm nowhere near the norm when it comes to piling up debt :)
    You're pretty much the norm here except for the price of the car. A $288 payment on a $15k car is comparable to a $378 payment on  $20k car presuming identical interest rate, taxes, doc fees and down payment (as a percentage of total sales price).

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited September 2018
    I get the distinct impression that I'm nowhere near the norm when it comes to piling up debt


    And that is something that attracts people like us to Nissan purchases - good value for the money. After doing all the research on this car I think that Nissan is one of the leaders in that category.

    As I've been researching potential trade-in possibilities I considered the Nissan Versa Note briefly. I think it would be fun to drive but I've decided to go with the Sentra SR Turbo for more power and economy. The Sentra SR Turbo gets 37mpg on the highway and 30 in the city. More than acceptable to me.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    ab348 said:

    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge.

    On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.

    And she'll probably get enough money to cure 3 cats. I'll never understand how people fall for the GoFundMe scams. It seems like every day I hear about another one of these scams being exposed. To me it's like throwing money down a deep hole. The money would be better spent lighting cigars.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    jmonroe1 said:
    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge. On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.
    And she'll probably get enough money to cure 3 cats. I'll never understand how people fall for the GoFundMe scams. It seems like every day I hear about another one of these scams being exposed. To me it's like throwing money down a deep hole. The money would be better spent lighting cigars. jmonroe
    I agree. That being said I have several cigars and nothing to light them with, could you send me a few hundreds?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439
    Just a big scandal in philly. A couple started one to help a homeless guy, and it became huge. Now they are in risk of going to jail for pilfering the money.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360


    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge.

    On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.

    And she'll probably get enough money to cure 3 cats. I'll never understand how people fall for the GoFundMe scams. It seems like every day I hear about another one of these scams being exposed. To me it's like throwing money down a deep hole. The money would be better spent lighting cigars.

    jmonroe

    I agree. That being said I have several cigars and nothing to light them with, could you send me a few hundreds?

    Go set up a GoFundMe account. That way you won't have to overload me and all your poster buddies can contribute. Might even get enough to buy more cigars and if you're really lucky you can light them up while on your prirate island. :D

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,318
    The crotchetiness in here is very entertaining.... :D

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439
    Lots of old men keeping their eyes on the lawn?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    stickguy said:

    Just a big scandal in philly. A couple started one to help a homeless guy, and it became huge. Now they are in risk of going to jail for pilfering the money.

    I read about that. I don't even have words for it.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge.

    On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.

    And she'll probably get enough money to cure 3 cats. I'll never understand how people fall for the GoFundMe scams. It seems like every day I hear about another one of these scams being exposed. To me it's like throwing money down a deep hole. The money would be better spent lighting cigars.

    jmonroe
    In her case it's not really a scam, just a spoiled girl asking for money for her cat, as she spent it all on other more important things.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think one of the problems about this petty crime stuff is that law enforcement and the courts aren't staffed to handle it, and putting someone in prison is expensive. So if you get caught, the consequences are often not that big of a deal for the criminal.
  • coldinohiocoldinohio Member Posts: 170
    Test rides:
    BMW drives yesterday
    430i coupe
    M240

    wow; I can see why RR likes the M240-- what a rocket with ~400hp;
    430i nice but not trying to find CPO 440 after driving M240, but more of a grand Tourer than M240

    dealer wants me to order

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    dino001 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge.

    On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.

    And she'll probably get enough money to cure 3 cats. I'll never understand how people fall for the GoFundMe scams. It seems like every day I hear about another one of these scams being exposed. To me it's like throwing money down a deep hole. The money would be better spent lighting cigars.

    jmonroe
    In her case it's not really a scam, just a spoiled girl asking for money for her cat, as she spent it all on other more important things.
    Call it what you like. People contributing to these frauds are being taken advantage of. But it's legal because it was their choice. Another case of you can't fix stupid.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited September 2018
    jmonroe1 said:

    dino001 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    Drawing the line where personal responsibility ends and charity or the welfare state begins is always a challenge.

    On the subject of asking for charity more readily, I know a young lady who is a schoolteacher (which here means a very good public sector job with security and benefits) who is in her late 20s and still lives with her parents. She seems to have no trouble traveling, eating out, going to bars, etc. Recently her cat got sick and began having seizures. She actually created a GoFundMe page asking for money to pay for the cat's veterinarian treatment. I could not believe it.

    And she'll probably get enough money to cure 3 cats. I'll never understand how people fall for the GoFundMe scams. It seems like every day I hear about another one of these scams being exposed. To me it's like throwing money down a deep hole. The money would be better spent lighting cigars.

    jmonroe
    In her case it's not really a scam, just a spoiled girl asking for money for her cat, as she spent it all on other more important things.
    Call it what you like. People contributing to these frauds are being taken advantage of. But it's legal because it was their choice. Another case of you can't fix stupid.

    jmonroe
    I meant, if a spoiled girl finds bunch of stupid sponsors, ready to believe her teary story about the cat, I'm "OK" with that (it's a qualified OK). I do have a problem with those two lowlifes that collected money for the vet and then stole it. They should go to prison for grand larceny. My understanding the charges are coming.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354
    I put it off as long as I could, but I’m finally getting the brake lines replaced on the Wrangler. They were all rusty and one finally popped yesterday. Fortunately I was able to pull into a parking lot and await a tow to my indie shop. At least it’s another plus when I go to sell it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    Well folks, I'm now going to be @jmonroe1 all the time.

    I just tried to sign in on my PC and there was a glitch (got the Howdy Stranger page). I knew this was going to happen sometime and even mentioned it when a lot of us were having our problems with the new system. If you guys remember or even cared, I was @jmonroe on my PC and @jmonroe1 on my phone. Well not anymore. Get used to it. :@ :@

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    henryn said:
    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.
    There are very few “propositions” that are inexpensive - in the short and the long run!  :D

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    henryn said:
    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.
    As the south suburbs of Chicago is the farthest south I have ever spent a winter and I routinely keep cars 10 years or longer I can honestly say I have never needed to replace brake lines.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681

    I put it off as long as I could, but I’m finally getting the brake lines replaced on the Wrangler. They were all rusty and one finally popped yesterday. Fortunately I was able to pull into a parking lot and await a tow to my indie shop. At least it’s another plus when I go to sell it.

    Where's your sense of adventure. Couldn't you use the parking brake/emergency brake or the low gears to get to a stop when needed? That's what we did out in the rural country long ago when brakes failed. LOL

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited September 2018
    Got home about an hour ago from my trip.  As I was approaching my parking space, I noticed the entire parking lot was filled with cars, including my parking space and all the guest spaces.  So I parked perpendicular behind the car that was in my spot and called security.

    About 5 minutes later, a security cop arrived in his squad car.  I explained the problem to him.  He said a lady in one of our condo units had passed away last Friday and the reason every parking space was occupied was because the family was receiving guests after the funeral this morning.  I asked him where I should park my car until he could determine whose car it was so it could be moved.  He suggested I park in the main guest parking lot 4 blocks away.

    Just as I was about to pull my car from behind the vehicle in my reserved spot, one of the mourners visiting came over and said it would be 6 hours before the car would be moved - the ending time for visitors to the family.  I asked that the car be moved NOW because I just returned from a 5 hour trip from Jacksonville and was in no condition to walk 4 blocks to park my car.

    The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!”  The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately.  This guy told the security officer to f...off!  Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully!  The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB.  Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.

    I tell you - I have no luck in this world - all I did was call security - I didn’t know someone had died.  And even so, I had no place to park and I was exhausted from the long drive.  My parking spot is my property and states so in my deed and homeowners association contract.

    Now I’ll have a ghost haunting me for wanting to park in my own space.  I give up!  :o:'(

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    henryn said:

    As I don't live in the frozen northern wastelands, where they salt the roads in wintertime, I have never had to replace rusted brake lines. But from what I've been told, that is not an inexpensive proposition.

    You're right about that but that's the price you pay when you cheat like @roadburner is doing and taking his car to a shop.

    Back in the mid 70's I had to replace a brake line on my '68 Olds and called the dealer to have all of them replaced. The price was out of sight so I asked about having just the rusted out line replaced just to get the car back on the road. My plan was to do the rest myself at my convenience. Of course that would not have cost nearly as much but the dealer couldn't get me into the shop for 3 days and an independent shop couldn't get me in for 2 days. That was better but not good enough so I went to the parts store and bought the premade lines in the lengths as close to what I needed but a little longer. I wanted to cut the lines that were too long and buy the double flare tool and remake that end but no one had it so I had to "hide" the extra length as best as I could. I did that by bending the line that went from the master cylinder to the "T" mounted on the differential unit in a sine wave in a few places to take up about 5 or 6 extra inches. I lucked out with the lines that ran along the rear axle from the "T" to the rear brake cylinders because they were only about 1 inch too long. Took me the better part of a Saturday evening but I never had a problem. The car always stopped just like it was supposed to do.

    I don't plan to ever do that again but it was a good experience.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    Help odds on the way! And the hurricane hasn't come ashore yet. I've been I  two trips today on the interstate and I've seen about 30 medium bucket trucks bragging south on I70/75, including afew heavy duty bucket trucks. I assume they're heading to the area.

    Someone named cooper in Madison WI it's on the side. Good bless those about to be dumped on by the new path.

    I talked to friends in sc who said they were to get nothing. But the path changed. Now they may get rin for days as the center goes over them inn upstate high country.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    abacomike said:

    Got home about an hour ago from my trip.  As I was approaching my parking space, I noticed the entire parking lot was filled with cars, including my parking space and all the guest spaces.  So I parked perpendicular behind the car that was in my spot and called security.

    About 5 minutes later, a security cop arrived in his squad car.  I explained the problem to him.  He said a lady in one of our condo units had passed away last Friday and the reason every parking space was occupied was because the family was receiving guests after the funeral this morning.  I asked him where I should park my car until he could determine whose car it was so it could be moved.  He suggested I park in the main guest parking lot 4 blocks away.

    Just as I was about to pull my car from behind the vehicle in my reserved spot, one of the mourners visiting came over and said it would be 6 hours before the car would be moved - the ending time for visitors to the family.  I asked that the car be moved NOW because I just returned from a 5 hour trip from Jacksonville and was in no condition to walk 4 blocks to park my car.

    The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!”  The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately.  This guy told the security officer to f...off!  Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully!  The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB.  Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.

    I tell you - I have no luck in this world - all I did was call security - I didn’t know someone had died.  And even so, I had no place to park and I was exhausted from the long drive.  My parking spot is my property and states so in my deed and homeowners association contract.

    Now I’ll have a ghost haunting me for wanting to park in my own space.  I give up!  :o:'(

    It sounds like you'd have been better off going to Publix and waiting it out. Then again, maybe not. :'(

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    jmonroe1 said:

    Well folks, I'm now going to be @jmonroe1 all the time.

    I just tried to sign in on my PC and there was a glitch (got the Howdy Stranger page). I knew this was going to happen sometime and even mentioned it when a lot of us were having our problems with the new system. If you guys remember or even cared, I was @jmonroe on my PC and @jmonroe1 on my phone. Well not anymore. Get used to it. :@ :@

    jmonroe

    What have you done with jmonroe?
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    jmonroe1 said:

    Well folks, I'm now going to be @jmonroe1 all the time.

    I just tried to sign in on my PC and there was a glitch (got the Howdy Stranger page). I knew this was going to happen sometime and even mentioned it when a lot of us were having our problems with the new system. If you guys remember or even cared, I was @jmonroe on my PC and @jmonroe1 on my phone. Well not anymore. Get used to it. :@ :@

    jmonroe

    What have you done with jmonroe?
    When I find him I'll let you know. But before he left I was given permission to use his name. Almost like the poor guy is still with us. :o

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    abacomike said:
    This did not end peacefully!  The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB.  Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.
    Gee I didn't know that being in mourning was a defense for trespassing.

    Did you ask him if he understood that the confrontation was caused by the person who parked in someone else's reserved parking space without permission?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,318
    I hear the hurricane has shifted track and is now aimed at Wilmington, NC. I feel bad for that area. Back in the '90s I spent a week on a golf outing in NC just north of the SC border, in a place called Southport, right on the beach. I loved it there, a small town with very friendly people and fabulous beaches. In fact the condo the group was sharing drew lots for the bedrooms and I got the best one, on the ground floor with patio doors overlooking the beach. When I woke up each morning and raised my head off the pillow I could see the surf breaking onto the shore and it almost appeared to be above me. I imagine that place and all the others like it there will be underwater.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267
    @abacomike, you did the exact right thing. The dead person should have no impact on you. Certainly shouldn't make you walk 4 blocks from a main lot. I bet you were much nicer than I would have been.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,267

    Help odds on the way! And the hurricane hasn't come ashore yet. I've been I  two trips today on the interstate and I've seen about 30 medium bucket trucks bragging south on I70/75, including afew heavy duty bucket trucks. I assume they're heading to the area.

    Someone named cooper in Madison WI it's on the side. Good bless those about to be dumped on by the new path.

    I talked to friends in sc who said they were to get nothing. But the path changed. Now they may get rin for days as the center goes over them inn upstate high country.

    Have you been using Marco's speech non-recognition machine? B)
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    abacomike said:
    Got home about an hour ago from my trip.  As I was approaching my parking space, I noticed the entire parking lot was filled with cars, including my parking space and all the guest spaces.  So I parked perpendicular behind the car that was in my spot and called security.

    About 5 minutes later, a security cop arrived in his squad car.  I explained the problem to him.  He said a lady in one of our condo units had passed away last Friday and the reason every parking space was occupied was because the family was receiving guests after the funeral this morning.  I asked him where I should park my car until he could determine whose car it was so it could be moved.  He suggested I park in the main guest parking lot 4 blocks away.

    Just as I was about to pull my car from behind the vehicle in my reserved spot, one of the mourners visiting came over and said it would be 6 hours before the car would be moved - the ending time for visitors to the family.  I asked that the car be moved NOW because I just returned from a 5 hour trip from Jacksonville and was in no condition to walk 4 blocks to park my car.

    The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!”  The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately.  This guy told the security officer to f...off!  Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully!  The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB.  Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.

    I tell you - I have no luck in this world - all I did was call security - I didn’t know someone had died.  And even so, I had no place to park and I was exhausted from the long drive.  My parking spot is my property and states so in my deed and homeowners association contract.

    Now I’ll have a ghost haunting me for wanting to park in my own space.  I give up!  :o:'(
    Unfortunately, there is no winner here. Obviously, the dude was an idiot for parking in a clearly marked reserved spot. But had security told me the deal, I would have to forgive/forget. I probably, however, would have found a closer place to park, even if it was on the lawn or blocking in a mourner (upon whose car I would leave a note like "sorry to hear of your loss. Please text/call me at xxxx so i can let you out of the lot."

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The whole country seems to be getting nastier attitudes lately. Civility is going the way of moderation unfortunately.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    jmonroe1 said:


    When I find him I'll let you know. But before he left I was given permission to use his name. Almost like the poor guy is still with us.jmonroe

    Is Jmonroe who the wake at Abaco's is for?

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited September 2018
    thebean said:

    Help is on the way! And the hurricane hasn't come ashore yet. I've been out on two trips today on the interstate and I've seen about 30 medium bucket trucks heading south on I70/75, including a few heavy duty bucket trucks. I assume they're heading to the area.



    Someone named Cooper in Madison WI is on the side. Good bless those about to be dumped on by the new path of the hurricane

    .

    I talked to friends in sc who said they were to get nothing yesterday. But the path changed. Now they may get rain for days as the center goes over them inn upstate high country.

    Have you been using Marco's speech non-recognition machine? B)
    It's my cellphone. It does autocomplete by dragging finger over key letters. I have to remember to go back and edit. Sometimes it's great; sometimes it's not.

    I have done a translation for those who care.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    jmonroe1 said:


    When I find him I'll let you know. But before he left I was given permission to use his name. Almost like the poor guy is still with us.jmonroe

    Is Jmonroe who the wake at Abaco's is for?

    I never thought of that. Why don't you ask @Mike to send me airfare so that I can confirm that. It couldn't hurt if he got several requests for that from the guys in here. ;)

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    ab348 said:

    Sometime in the last day or so the fix for the iPhone/Safari login problem finally got rolled out so I am now logged in that way. Another seam in the seamless transition mended!

    Still can't get here from my iPad. Too outdated I guess.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354

    I put it off as long as I could, but I’m finally getting the brake lines replaced on the Wrangler. They were all rusty and one finally popped yesterday. Fortunately I was able to pull into a parking lot and await a tow to my indie shop. At least it’s another plus when I go to sell it.

    Where's your sense of adventure. Couldn't you use the parking brake/emergency brake or the low gears to get to a stop when needed? That's what we did out in the rural country long ago when brakes failed. LOL
    I have done that when I was young and invulnerable. Yesterday I was @ 20 miles from home and I had to tackle a couple of hills on the way. That pretty much discouraged any "adventures."

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    qbrozen said:
    abacomike said:
    Got home about an hour ago from my trip.  As I was approaching my parking space, I noticed the entire parking lot was filled with cars, including my parking space and all the guest spaces.  So I parked perpendicular behind the car that was in my spot and called security.

    About 5 minutes later, a security cop arrived in his squad car.  I explained the problem to him.  He said a lady in one of our condo units had passed away last Friday and the reason every parking space was occupied was because the family was receiving guests after the funeral this morning.  I asked him where I should park my car until he could determine whose car it was so it could be moved.  He suggested I park in the main guest parking lot 4 blocks away.

    Just as I was about to pull my car from behind the vehicle in my reserved spot, one of the mourners visiting came over and said it would be 6 hours before the car would be moved - the ending time for visitors to the family.  I asked that the car be moved NOW because I just returned from a 5 hour trip from Jacksonville and was in no condition to walk 4 blocks to park my car.

    The guy looks at me and says, “...sue me!”  The security officer insisted that the car be moved immediately.  This guy told the security officer to f...off!  Now, five more mourners come down to the parking lot and started cursing me out because I had called security on them.

    This did not end peacefully!  The man who owned the car finally moved it and said I was an insensitive SOB.  Further, that I had some nerve causing this confrontation during visitation of the mourners.

    I tell you - I have no luck in this world - all I did was call security - I didn’t know someone had died.  And even so, I had no place to park and I was exhausted from the long drive.  My parking spot is my property and states so in my deed and homeowners association contract.

    Now I’ll have a ghost haunting me for wanting to park in my own space.  I give up!  :o:'(
    Unfortunately, there is no winner here. Obviously, the dude was an idiot for parking in a clearly marked reserved spot. But had security told me the deal, I would have to forgive/forget. I probably, however, would have found a closer place to park, even if it was on the lawn or blocking in a mourner (upon whose car I would leave a note like "sorry to hear of your loss. Please text/call me at xxxx so i can let you out of the lot."
    I was going to park in the other lot, but when this guy approached me to tell me I would  have to wait 6 hours to get my parking space, my sympathy and tolerance of the situation changed dramatically, as did the security officer.  Why didn’t the visitors park 4 blocks away?  Why me?  As you can see, I was the victim here - but who suffered?  Good grief.

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