Edmunds Members - Cars and Conversations (Archived)

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Should have been about $695 tax and $130 for title and reg.

Oh that’s different then. It’s just a regular rip off. :@ i know some states really nail car owners for registration separate from sales tax.

tjc78

That’s one area NJ doesn’t kill you too badly. Most cars are under $100 /year

explorerx4

I paid over $1960 in sales tax for MKZ, even after the discount/trade in credit was applied.
CT now changes $100 to trade you car in! Dealer also has to pay a fee when they sell one!

nyccarguy

explorerx4 said:

I paid over $1960 in sales tax for MKZ, even after the discount/trade in credit was applied.
CT now changes $100 to trade you car in! Dealer also has to pay a fee when they sell one!

We'd both like to know where that money goes. Have you noticed the state charges a $10 Clean Air Act Fee and a $10 Fee to get into all the state parks with the registration every 2 years? My property taxes have gone up too (a lot of that is local gov't).

ab348

explorerx4 said:

I paid over $1960 in sales tax for MKZ, even after the discount/trade in credit was applied.
CT now changes $100 to trade you car in! Dealer also has to pay a fee when they sell one!

Bah, mere pikers down there in the land of the free. Up here in the socialist nirvana of Kanada I paid $7K in sales tax alone on the ATS. 15% charged on just about everything.

driver100

ab348 said:

explorerx4 said:

I paid over $1960 in sales tax for MKZ, even after the discount/trade in credit was applied.
CT now changes $100 to trade you car in! Dealer also has to pay a fee when they sell one!

Bah, mere pikers down there in the land of the free. Up here in the socialist nirvana of Kanada I paid $7K in sales tax alone on the ATS. 15% charged on just about everything.

Ab, didn't you have a trade-in? Shouldn't you pay sales tax on the difference only?

ab348

No, I was coming off a lease so no trade-in.

houdini2

imidazol97 said:

abacomike said:

houdini2 said:

ab348 said:

You're on a roll!! I might suggest not using anything with an open flame the rest of the day... :laughing:

Just hold on until tomorrow. You won't even remember what happened today.

Why? Did something happen today? I don't remember!🤪😜

Dementia?
I'm a little concerned. We've had our DIL and son's Wheaten Terrier for almost 2 weeks. I find I'm talking to her... as if she is human. I even give answers sometimes. Is this a sign of impending dementia?

She is the type which wants to stay within a couple feet of her human. If I leave to run errands or go to car show, she sits on the rug inside the garage door waiting for me to return.

I haven't been around dogs since my youth on the farm. But I think I'm going to miss her when she goes back home after the "kids" are back from NZ. I won't miss the 6:15 wake up whining call to open her kennel and take her outdoors for a potty visit.

The back windows of my Cobalt look like they're frosted from her nose on the glass for 2 weeks. I'll have to clean them.

If someone owned a dog and didn't talk to it, and even have conversations, I would be very concerned !!

stickguy

I talk to my dog more than my wife. He listens better.

snakeweasel

houdini2 said:

imidazol97 said:

abacomike said:

houdini2 said:

ab348 said:

You're on a roll!! I might suggest not using anything with an open flame the rest of the day... :laughing:

Just hold on until tomorrow. You won't even remember what happened today.

Why? Did something happen today? I don't remember!🤪😜

Dementia?
I'm a little concerned. We've had our DIL and son's Wheaten Terrier for almost 2 weeks. I find I'm talking to her... as if she is human. I even give answers sometimes. Is this a sign of impending dementia?

She is the type which wants to stay within a couple feet of her human. If I leave to run errands or go to car show, she sits on the rug inside the garage door waiting for me to return.

I haven't been around dogs since my youth on the farm. But I think I'm going to miss her when she goes back home after the "kids" are back from NZ. I won't miss the 6:15 wake up whining call to open her kennel and take her outdoors for a potty visit.

The back windows of my Cobalt look like they're frosted from her nose on the glass for 2 weeks. I'll have to clean them.

If someone owned a dog and didn't talk to it, and even have conversations, I would be very concerned !!

Well I dont talk to my dog, it's a French Poodle and I dont speak French.

explorerx4

@nyccarguy,
State is looking for money anywhere they can get it.
Dealer told me the $100 trade in fee was in lieu of eliminating the sale tax trade in credit.

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

Well I dont talk to my dog, it's a French Poodle and I dont speak French.

Makes sense to me.

fintail

Sales tax here is 10.1%, and in this self-made capitalist paradise of hard work creating all and having nothing to do with lucky birth, certainly not devolving into a corporatist kakistocracy, we get a lot less in return than you.

ab348 said:

Bah, mere pikers down there in the land of the free. Up here in the socialist nirvana of Kanada I paid $7K in sales tax alone on the ATS. 15% charged on just about everything.

imidazol97

sb55 said:

Good to know. My service advisor said the allow about a day and half for the appointment, so with any luck I will be leaving around noon on Tuesday Oct. 22. (FYI, you camp at the factory. They tow your rig into the shop at 7:00 am and bring it back around 4:00 pm). I do have waze, so can use that to help as well as local radio.

Northern Kentucky is using federal money for an increased enforcement on I71-I75. Second was Columbus Day.
I don't see one scheduled for Tuesday, 22nd, but just be aware until you're past the rest area. Not all tickets were for speeding, but lots of other reasons. That's why I've always laughed at the politicians raising money using speed cameras--the real problems wiht the drivers or the cars aren't the speeding, but the other things found when a real officer makes a real stop for a reason.

https://www.wcpo.com/news/region-northern-kentucky/1-day-281-tickets-nkys-i-75-campaign-puts-traffic-offenders-on-alert

abacomike

qbrozen said:

No such thing as instant plates in NJ. Doubt it will happen since that would probably eliminate a number of MVC jobs that are occupied by friends and family of someone in favor.

I was just there again today to register the Charger. Took about 30 mins this time. Cost with tax and tags was $825.

Speaking of temp tags, when I went to replace it, I noticed something that previously escaped me. I have a special plate frame.

Dealers issue ("expires OCT 2020") decals that are applied to an existing plate. Here in FL, the registrant owns the license plate - even if the car is leased, the plate is transferred to the new vehicle.

When I turn in my leased S450, I remove the plate and retain the registration certificate and it is then transferred to my next vehicle.

If a new plate is required because there is no trade or lease return, the dealer issues a cardboard temporary tag. The license plate is then picked up at the dealership once the car is registered - the tags and registration are sent to the dealer by the tag agency the dealership uses for their registration process.

driver100

We will be flying to Florida this coming Friday. I don't have to worry about speed traps on I-75 this time. They can make their revenue from others. I guess Snowbirds make for easy pickings.........

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

explorerx4 said:

I paid over $1960 in sales tax for MKZ, even after the discount/trade in credit was applied.
CT now changes $100 to trade you car in! Dealer also has to pay a fee when they sell one!

Bah, mere pikers down there in the land of the free. Up here in the socialist nirvana of Kanada I paid $7K in sales tax alone on the ATS. 15% charged on just about everything.

I feel lucky to have only paid $2100 sales tax on my Mustang.

explorerx4

@qbrozen,
That temp plate and surround are things you should keep even after the car is gone.

carnaught

driver100 said:

We will be flying to Florida this coming Friday. I don't have to worry about speed traps on I-75 this time. They can make their revenue from others. I guess Snowbirds make for easy pickings.........

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

Did that happen on a PC or an Apple based computer or tablet?

The worst sites are those who peak your interest with a startling title, then after you’re hooked, they take you page by page, each containing a small paragraph or sentence, with very little information. Those sites also have hypersensitive ads in that they respond to a minimal touch or click to take you to the given advertisement. Often they’re loaded with phishing scams. Last week on my iPad I got an alarming message saying I was infected by three viruses. I was able to quickly get out of it and did a virus scan which of course yielded no viruses. I also occasionally get those congratulation screens which are going to reward you with a gift certificate in exchange for answering a brief survey.

I guess I’m thankful I’ve not had any of those IRS phone calls recently :@.

driver100

carnaught said:

driver100 said:

We will be flying to Florida this coming Friday. I don't have to worry about speed traps on I-75 this time. They can make their revenue from others. I guess Snowbirds make for easy pickings.........

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

Did that happen on a PC or an Apple based computer or tablet?

The worst sites are those who peak your interest with a startling title, then after you’re hooked, they take you page by page, each containing a small paragraph or sentence, with very little information. Those sites also have hypersensitive ads in that they respond to a minimal touch or click to take you to the given advertisement.

I guess I’m thankful I’ve not had any of those IRS phone calls recently :@.

This was on a desktop PC....Windows 10. I try to be extra careful, sometimes those little ads look like they could be interesting to read, but, I am sure a lot of them are ways to catch people. I even have looked up something about a certain car........and then I get a message about signing up or even not interested. I have heard even if you press NO or not interested that still works for them. Our IT specialist said to always try and back out of the screen, don't press any anything etc. In this case my screen froze, so I shut it down and started it up, and X'd out that whole page which was on my Edmunds page.....and I started over.

My Alexa is in my office....hope it doesn't have a camera in it. Not that there is a lot going on, but, I get changed for tennis etc in here.......I can see them all down at amazon watching for when I come in the room.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

Was that the site I linked about the crackdown on terrible driving on I75/71 in NKy?

I do what you did. I just hit the power button for 5 seconds which forces a shutdown without saving anything the malicious thing tried to do.

Another way out of a locked screen is to hit alt-F4 keys. A friend whose computer I take care of for them called once and said he had a page that he couldn't leave and it said his computer had been locked and he had to call a phone number AND it was continually doing this through the speakers as well.

I wanted to see what it said because I knew he had Norton Security on there and it was working from a recent visit I'd made. I got there, hit the F4 and alt key and it just wiped the page off and everything was normal. He was stunned. Because nothing he had done could get away from that advertising page.

qbrozen

explorerx4 said:

@qbrozen,
That temp plate and surround are things you should keep even after the car is gone.

Oh, no, the surround would have to stay with the car. It is only proper.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

carnaught said:

driver100 said:

We will be flying to Florida this coming Friday. I don't have to worry about speed traps on I-75 this time. They can make their revenue from others. I guess Snowbirds make for easy pickings.........

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

Did that happen on a PC or an Apple based computer or tablet?

The worst sites are those who peak your interest with a startling title, then after you’re hooked, they take you page by page, each containing a small paragraph or sentence, with very little information. Those sites also have hypersensitive ads in that they respond to a minimal touch or click to take you to the given advertisement.

I guess I’m thankful I’ve not had any of those IRS phone calls recently :@.

This was on a desktop PC....Windows 10. I try to be extra careful, sometimes those little ads look like they could be interesting to read, but, I am sure a lot of them are ways to catch people. I even have looked up something about a certain car........and then I get a message about signing up or even not interested. I have heard even if you press NO or not interested that still works for them. Our IT specialist said to always try and back out of the screen, don't press any anything etc. In this case my screen froze, so I shut it down and started it up, and X'd out that whole page which was on my Edmunds page.....and I started over.

My Alexa is in my office....hope it doesn't have a camera in it. Not that there is a lot going on, but, I get changed for tennis etc in here.......I can see them all down at amazon watching for when I come in the room.

A while back Amazon asked me if I was interested in subscribing to a new feature they were offering. They said I could get a complementary viewing of a guy from Canada getting ready to go to a tennis match. Also said it was pretty funny to see the guy shine his racket, kiss his balls, double tie his shoes do a few stretching exercises, then run out of the room while jumping up and down, shouting "I'm the best, I'm the best". I thought they were kidding; I guess not.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

Finally, a Chrysler I would buy.

https://youtu.be/oHVsNNQLJPc

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally, a Chrysler I would buy.

https://youtu.be/oHVsNNQLJPc

That was 15 yrs ago. Pretty sure you’ll never be buying one.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally, a Chrysler I would buy.

https://youtu.be/oHVsNNQLJPc

It was a great car, my understanding was that the higher ups at Mercedes (this was made during the time MB had Chrysler) were not happy with this car as it was out performing their high end sports cars.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally, a Chrysler I would buy.

https://youtu.be/oHVsNNQLJPc

That was 15 yrs ago. Pretty sure you’ll never be buying one.

2004 concept car. Evidently Daimler nixed it because it was better than a similar Mercedes. The kicker was that Chrysler designed theirs in half the time that it took for the Mercedes. Sounds like jealousy.

I guess we can dream, can’t we?

oldfarmer50

Say, I read that Honda and Toyota sales are down 14% and 15% respectively for September. What gives? I thought those two brands had a religious loyalty.

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

Say, I read that Honda and Toyota sales are down 14% and 15% respectively for September. What gives? I thought those two brands had a religious loyalty.

A single flawed data point. Short sales month that excluded labor day bs that holiday weekend counting for december last year. Besides, sales should never be looked at in just 1-mo increments, IMHO.

nyccarguy

So much going on in the market that it is hard to tell one single deciding factor. Are people keeping their cars longer because they got a lower number than expected on a trade in and now they are under water instead of even or having equity? Are the new cars too much mire than the one they just bought/leased 2-3 years ago? Have people gotten off the @isellhondas “leasing hamster wheel?” and decided to buy used or CPO?

Look at our microcosm of posters here. @qbrozen ditched his leased BMW and bout (2) used cars (Equinox & Charger). @breld on CCBA actually had an Audi Q7 that he held on to for an entire year. 2 1/2 years ago I bought a CPO Infiniti Q40 (sold it to Carvana) and now lease a 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport.

The one thing I’ve learned about business since starting to work for my family’s plumbing supply back in 2002 is that business is consistently inconsistent.

stickguy

September is also going to be tricky when you have model switch overs.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

Was that the site I linked about the crackdown on terrible driving on I75/71 in NKy?

I do what you did. I just hit the power button for 5 seconds which forces a shutdown without saving anything the malicious thing tried to do.

Another way out of a locked screen is to hit alt-F4 keys.

Yes, that was the page...I didn't check but I thought a real news source (not a fake one) would not be a problem. Thanks about the F4 key...that is worth knowing.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

carnaught said:

driver100 said:

We will be flying to Florida this coming Friday. I don't have to worry about speed traps on I-75 this time. They can make their revenue from others. I guess Snowbirds make for easy pickings.........

btw....I went on that site and I got a big red screen that said something about Call this number immediately, your banking information could be compromised, the longer you wait the more danger you are in. Do not delete this message. I couldn't go back a screen, and it jammed up everything....I did a restart and I X'd out of that screen. That it could be related to the video or article I don't know....might be coincidence!

Did that happen on a PC or an Apple based computer or tablet?

The worst sites are those who peak your interest with a startling title, then after you’re hooked, they take you page by page, each containing a small paragraph or sentence, with very little information. Those sites also have hypersensitive ads in that they respond to a minimal touch or click to take you to the given advertisement.

I guess I’m thankful I’ve not had any of those IRS phone calls recently :@.

This was on a desktop PC....Windows 10. I try to be extra careful, sometimes those little ads look like they could be interesting to read, but, I am sure a lot of them are ways to catch people. I even have looked up something about a certain car........and then I get a message about signing up or even not interested. I have heard even if you press NO or not interested that still works for them. Our IT specialist said to always try and back out of the screen, don't press any anything etc. In this case my screen froze, so I shut it down and started it up, and X'd out that whole page which was on my Edmunds page.....and I started over.

My Alexa is in my office....hope it doesn't have a camera in it. Not that there is a lot going on, but, I get changed for tennis etc in here.......I can see them all down at amazon watching for when I come in the room.

A while back Amazon asked me if I was interested in subscribing to a new feature they were offering. They said I could get a complementary viewing of a guy from Canada getting ready to go to a tennis match. Also said it was pretty funny to see the guy shine his racket, kiss his balls, double tie his shoes do a few stretching exercises, then run out of the room while jumping up and down, shouting "I'm the best, I'm the best". I thought they were kidding; I guess not.

jmonroe

At least Amazon thinks I am worth showing for home viewers.................

imidazol97

We had the Mercury national club meeting during the summer here in Dayton.
I posted some pictures here on Edmunds.

A couple years back it was the Crown Victoria Ford meeting... That was exciting because
of all the Canadian models.

Next summer will the the Falcon diamond anniversary for 60 years of Falconing...
God willing, I will get to go visit the displays and activities they have for Falcon owners. However, it's not one of my gotta see cars at shows, but the collective presence will be invigorating. I remember my first ride in a Falcon with another student and it must have been one of the first couple year models he had. SLOW.

I'm hoping to find there are other national shows here or within a range I can travel to see
next summer.


There was a national meeting in Auburn that I didn't go to.
GTO national was in Lawrenceburg IN and I chose not to go there.
The Firebird TransAm group meets here annually and I've gone to
a couple of their large cruise ins but didn't go this year.

stickguy

I don't go to a lot of shows, but I really don't recall ever seeing a falcon.

ab348

Over the years I have enjoyed seeing a few of the more oddball Falcms at various shows. One of the memorable ones was a beautifully restored (and I mean nut-and-bolt original, everything better than new) bare-bones 1960 model, plain-jane sedan. Of all things! But it was fascinating to see because you never see anything like that. A few others of note were convertibles, Futura hardtops, and wagon versions. They can be engaging to look at. I suppose if you don't want an early Mustang like everyone else you can have something a bit different.

stickguy

I would not mind having one of those 63(?) replica rally cars. Those look like fun.

explorerx4

when I browsing the 599 page owners manual, i saw a section on an inflation system instead of a spare.
Took a look in the trunk, and there is an actual spare tire in there.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

We had the Mercury national club meeting during the summer here in Dayton.
I posted some pictures here on Edmunds.

A couple years back it was the Crown Victoria Ford meeting... That was exciting because
of all the Canadian models.

Next summer will the the Falcon diamond anniversary for 60 years of Falconing...

Those Falcons were slow and weak little things. My brother had a 1964 stripper model. They look a little better if you get a top of the line Futura or Sprint model. I have seen some more recently, probably look OK with nice wheels and a stronger than original engine. Not that special to me...now a Mustang show would be interesting.

driver100

Went grocery shopping this morning and parked to a newer Camaro in a very nice blue color. I found the interior to be pretty austere.....and of course I wasn't impressed with those extremely narrow windows.

Not much light gets in:

imidazol97

Picked up a couple of prescriptions at Kroger a few minutes ago. Parked in the lot next to me was a pale yellow Corvair convertible with the top down and a man and little girl in backseat waiting from someone. Beautiful.

stickguy

Isn't every show largely a Mustang show?

I attempted to use the navigation in the TLX today (the built in one, not Google maps through carplay). I could not for the life of me figure out how to enter an address (got to a list but couldn't scroll down). Need to read up on that. Finally had the bright idea to use voice commands, and it seemed to work, but nothing on the map. figured out later I must have done it through Siri, so my phone was happily navigating away but the car knew nothing about it.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

when I browsing the 599 page owners manual, i saw a section on an inflation system instead of a spare.
Took a look in the trunk, and there is an actual spare tire in there.

That’s a $405 option on the Mustang. Personally, i’d spend the money on a multi year membership in AAA.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

I would not mind having one of those 63(?) replica rally cars. Those look like fun.

You could start with this and build your own.

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/ctd/d/warwick-1963-ford-falcon-futura-33k/7002659273.html

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

when I browsing the 599 page owners manual, i saw a section on an inflation system instead of a spare.
Took a look in the trunk, and there is an actual spare tire in there.

That’s a $405 option on the Mustang. Personally, i’d spend the money on a multi year membership in AAA.

Oldfarmer, you were asking about car sales earlier...looks like the market is down about 11% on the month.
....................................2019...............2018....% change Sept.Jan-Sep 2019..Jan-Sep 2018.. %CHG YR
Grand Total (Est.-Sept) Total 2019-1,272,726
Total 2018-1,432,102
% CHGE -11.1%
Sales Jan - Sept 2019 - 12,756,729
Sales Jan - Sept 2018 -12,905,844
% CHGE -.2%

Toyota and Honda were down significantly in Sept, but only off a bit on the year;
CHART, CAR SALES 2019
General Motors sales decreased 10.4%, while Ford sales fell 11.8%, and FCA sales fell 9.3% in September.
Tesla’s estimated 16,000 sales in September were up 13.5% from the same month in 2018.
Among Japanese companies, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Mazda, and Subaru sales decreased 16.5%, 17.6%, 14.1%, 11.4% and 9.4%, respectively, while Mitsubishi sales increased 0.2%.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

I would not mind having one of those 63(?) replica rally cars. Those look like fun.

You could start with this and build your own.

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/ctd/d/warwick-1963-ford-falcon-futura-33k/7002659273.html

might be hard to lose the back doors. and to see fender skirts on something that basic is crazy.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
I do have a AAA membership. They cannot tow you from the interstate.

stickguy

I refuse to have no spare tire with just regular tires and a can of fix a flat. And I also have no interest in run flats, but they are at least better than nothing.

I paid to add the spare tire kit to my TLX. Pretty much guaranteed that way I will not get a flat! So that is really a must have for our next car. Thankfully since it will be some sort of CUV it is much more likely to come with a spare. Even the BMW has it as an option.

venture

When leaving the grocery store this evening I noticed a bright yellow Pinto sitting there. There was an older couple getting in it. It was in like new condition. It had to be restored...but why?

houdini2

driver100 said:

Went grocery shopping this morning and parked to a newer Camaro in a very nice blue color. I found the interior to be pretty austere.....and of course I wasn't impressed with those extremely narrow windows.

Not much light gets in:

Was the owner upset when he found you inside his car taking pictures"?