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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    @kyfdx said:
    Once you got to a laser printer, you'll never go back to inkjet.

    I agree. When I was still working, I had an all-in-one laser printer from Brother that the company outfitted my home office with. It’s a beast…maybe 10 years old. When I retired I asked them if they wanted me to ship it back to them. They told me to just keep it given how much it would cost to ship back.

    It’s a high zoot model with laser color printing, automatic duplexing, and even a fax (remember those?). Consumables lasted a long time, but up front costs were high. Plus, Brother quit supporting it, so firmware/software became glitchy, but I worked around it.

    About a month after I retired, it started leaving streak marks on the paper. Cleaned it. No dice! To fix it would have cost more than it was worth. So, it’s sitting in my upstairs office, unused. And, I keep procrastinating dragging it downstairs to donate or trash it.

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    @snakeweasel said:

    @driver100 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    @driver100 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:
    I’d be willing to bet that, if and when, I ever go to Europe and I’m asked where I’m from and I respond “America”, nobody is going to ask, “Canadian America, Mexico America, Central America, etc. etc.” ?

    If I’m not being PC...too bad.

    jmonroe

    ...and if they asked me what continent I was a citizen of I would say I am a North American......what will you say? :)

    Don’t change the subject. I was talking about countries not continents.
    Better yet, why not say we’re all earthlings? Is that PC enough for you?
    jmonroe

    What you actually said was: > "I’d be willing to bet that, if and when, I ever go to Europe and I’m asked where I’m from and I respond “America”, nobody is going to ask, “Canadian America, Mexico America, Central America, etc. etc.” ?

    If somebody asked you where you are from I think they are wondering if it actually is planet earth! :)

    I think next time someone asks me where I am from I think I'll reply Ceti Alpha V.

    And they’ll believe you. B)

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439

    @snakeweasel said:

    @driver100 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    @driver100 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:
    I’d be willing to bet that, if and when, I ever go to Europe and I’m asked where I’m from and I respond “America”, nobody is going to ask, “Canadian America, Mexico America, Central America, etc. etc.” ?

    If I’m not being PC...too bad.

    jmonroe

    ...and if they asked me what continent I was a citizen of I would say I am a North American......what will you say? :)

    Don’t change the subject. I was talking about countries not continents.
    Better yet, why not say we’re all earthlings? Is that PC enough for you?
    jmonroe

    What you actually said was: > "I’d be willing to bet that, if and when, I ever go to Europe and I’m asked where I’m from and I respond “America”, nobody is going to ask, “Canadian America, Mexico America, Central America, etc. etc.” ?

    If somebody asked you where you are from I think they are wondering if it actually is planet earth! :)

    I think next time someone asks me where I am from I think I'll reply Ceti Alpha V.

    I’m from Jersey!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439

    My printer crapped out a month or so back. Had been throwing an error code (CEL?) for a while, but a power cycle cleared it. Until it didn’t. Tried some research and fixes, but I wasn’t willing to dismantle the print heads.

    Man, they got expensive. Was a canon pixma ink jet. Nicer model, I bought it for about $100 a few years ago, now going for $300. And many more abdicate models were much higher than normal. But some still cheap. Weird. Ended up with a nice Epson from Best Buy (online) for about $65 maybe? So far works great.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,684

    @bwia said:

    @kyfdx said:
    I wouldn't depend on the Edmunds lease calculator. It's sort of broken.

    Thanks for that. I thought I was greedy looking for more trade-in value for the dollar. If not, Edmunds, then who? Hold out for the best I guess.

    Actual offers from Carvana or Carmax would be the way to go.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @stickguy said:

    @snakeweasel said:

    @driver100 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    @driver100 said:

    @jmonroe1 said:
    I’d be willing to bet that, if and when, I ever go to Europe and I’m asked where I’m from and I respond “America”, nobody is going to ask, “Canadian America, Mexico America, Central America, etc. etc.” ?

    If I’m not being PC...too bad.

    jmonroe

    ...and if they asked me what continent I was a citizen of I would say I am a North American......what will you say? :)

    Don’t change the subject. I was talking about countries not continents.
    Better yet, why not say we’re all earthlings? Is that PC enough for you?
    jmonroe

    What you actually said was: > "I’d be willing to bet that, if and when, I ever go to Europe and I’m asked where I’m from and I respond “America”, nobody is going to ask, “Canadian America, Mexico America, Central America, etc. etc.” ?

    If somebody asked you where you are from I think they are wondering if it actually is planet earth! :)

    I think next time someone asks me where I am from I think I'll reply Ceti Alpha V.

    I’m from Jersey!

    So how are the Channel Islands this time of year?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @kyfdx said:

    @bwia said:

    @kyfdx said:
    I wouldn't depend on the Edmunds lease calculator. It's sort of broken.

    Thanks for that. I thought I was greedy looking for more trade-in value for the dollar. If not, Edmunds, then who? Hold out for the best I guess.

    Actual offers from Carvana or Carmax would be the way to go.

    Correct as the only estimate of value are from people with cash in hand ready to buy it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766

    Here's a video of the bears opening the doors of a Grand Cherokee without the adverts in the beginning.
    Kind of scary.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/black-bears-caught-on-camera-breaking-into-suv/vi-BB1glqNu

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354
    edited May 2021

    @stickguy said:
    I like the Maverick. With the right upgrades, a cool car. Somewhat impractical for a DD though.

    My parents had a 1974 LDO sedan, and my college girlfriend(the Beautiful Bipolar Redhead) had a 1975 coupe. Like the Mustang II my law school girlfriend drove, the Mavericks encouraged me to study and work extra hard to ensure that I never had to drive something so miserable ever again.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,594
    edited May 2021

    Of all the new and used cars I've purchased, only once have I been sent a thank you gift. It was a beautiful plant that I nurtured for years. It was when I purchased my first and least expensive new car, an 88 VW Fox GL w/ac, stickered $8165. I'm surprised they didn't send me a nasty gram for my trade in of an 85 Renault Alliance DL convertible that loved the dealer's service dept.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    If you ever run into the need to actually fax something, you can do that for free online.
    gotfreefax.com

    Up to 3 pages, no charge, no credit card required. Up to 2 faxes per day. It works, I have used it more than once. Just scan to pdf, and feed the pdf file to the free fax service. And I am in no way associated with the service, other than satisfied customer.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913

    Today is Teacher Appreciation Day. All former teachers on here please take a bow.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    As an aside, knowing that the GF doesn’t subscribe to Edmunds (at least, I hope not), Melinda Gates, if you’re reading this, and need a rebound, I’m your guy!!!!!!!!!

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    @graphicguy said:
    As an aside, knowing that the GF doesn’t subscribe to Edmunds (at least, I hope not), Melinda Gates, if you’re reading this, and need a rebound, I’m your guy!!!!!!!!!

    Not so fast, she comes with a whole trunk load of built in chips. :s

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018

    @sda said:
    Of all the new and used cars I've purchased, only once have I been sent a thank you gift. It was a beautiful plant that I nurtured for years. It was when I purchased my first and least expensive new car, an 88 VW Fox GL w/ac, stickered $8165. I'm surprised they didn't send me a nasty gram for my trade in of an 85 Renault Alliance DL convertible that loved the dealer's service dept.

    I’ve never received a thank you gift for any car. Our Realtor did give a $200 gift card to Kirklands after we settled on both houses. I thought that was a nice touch.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @graphicguy said:
    As an aside, knowing that the GF doesn’t subscribe to Edmunds (at least, I hope not), Melinda Gates, if you’re reading this, and need a rebound, I’m your guy!!!!!!!!!

    My guess is you're a bit late on that one.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766

    @graphicguy,
    She'd want you to give away everything you've worked for your whole life.

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,684

    @explorerx4 said:
    @graphicguy,
    She'd want you to give away everything you've worked for your whole life.

    He can live on the 2% of her wealth, that she’s keeping. He could still afford to buy the Cincinnati Reds. 🙂

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766

    How much you want to bet she'd make him sign a prenup? :D

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    If I were worth 146 billion, or half of that amount, I wouldn't even go on a first date without a signed and notarized prenup.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    After about a week I started noticing a smell in my new (to me) Chrysler Pacifica. Then yesterday it sat in the hot sun for about an hour, and there it is, the smell of stale cigarette smoke. Which doesn’t surprise me, it was a rental in it’s previous life. So today I am engaged in interior cleaning. First up, check the cabin air filter, which appears to be original and definitely stinks. Three auto parts stores within one mile of my house, checked all 3, not one cabin air filter for a 2019 Pacifica. Oreilly’s, Advance, and AutoZone, no joy.

    Back home, check with Amazon. They have several, with free Prime shipping, but the earliest I can get one is Friday, 3 days out. I can get air filters, or oil filters, many different brands, arrive tomorrow. But not a cabin air filter. The obvious assumption is that people don’t buy cabin air filters. So I took the old one, blew it out with compressed air, sprayed it down with Fabreze, and stuck it back in temporarily.

    Next step is to dump about a pound of baking soda on all of the carpets and then scrub the leather seats and all of the hard surfaces. Has anyone here tried that Odor-X product from Turtle Wax? It sounds promising for cleaning out the HVAC system.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited May 2021

    Great product. They have various types for various odors.

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors
    They specifically address how to handle vehicle smoke odor with a 10 g. AQM pack in your car overnight (with a small fan to circulate the air).

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    @henryn said:
    After about a week I started noticing a smell in my new (to me) Chrysler Pacifica. Then yesterday it sat in the hot sun for about an hour, and there it is, the smell of stale cigarette smoke. Which doesn’t surprise me, it was a rental in it’s previous life. So today I am engaged in interior cleaning. First up, check the cabin air filter, which appears to be original and definitely stinks. Three auto parts stores within one mile of my house, checked all 3, not one cabin air filter for a 2019 Pacifica. Oreilly’s, Advance, and AutoZone, no joy.

    Back home, check with Amazon. They have several, with free Prime shipping, but the earliest I can get one is Friday, 3 days out. I can get air filters, or oil filters, many different brands, arrive tomorrow. But not a cabin air filter. The obvious assumption is that people don’t buy cabin air filters. So I took the old one, blew it out with compressed air, sprayed it down with Fabreze, and stuck it back in temporarily.

    Next step is to dump about a pound of baking soda on all of the carpets and then scrub the leather seats and all of the hard surfaces. Has anyone here tried that Odor-X product from Turtle Wax? It sounds promising for cleaning out the HVAC system.

    I don’t have an answer for the Odor-X thingy but a dealer might have the cabin air filter. Probably pricey but you won’t have to wait for it to ship.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,439

    Rent an ionizer machine?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,594

    @henryn said:
    After about a week I started noticing a smell in my new (to me) Chrysler Pacifica. Then yesterday it sat in the hot sun for about an hour, and there it is, the smell of stale cigarette smoke. Which doesn’t surprise me, it was a rental in it’s previous life. So today I am engaged in interior cleaning. First up, check the cabin air filter, which appears to be original and definitely stinks. Three auto parts stores within one mile of my house, checked all 3, not one cabin air filter for a 2019 Pacifica. Oreilly’s, Advance, and AutoZone, no joy.

    Back home, check with Amazon. They have several, with free Prime shipping, but the earliest I can get one is Friday, 3 days out. I can get air filters, or oil filters, many different brands, arrive tomorrow. But not a cabin air filter. The obvious assumption is that people don’t buy cabin air filters. So I took the old one, blew it out with compressed air, sprayed it down with Fabreze, and stuck it back in temporarily.

    Next step is to dump about a pound of baking soda on all of the carpets and then scrub the leather seats and all of the hard surfaces. Has anyone here tried that Odor-X product from Turtle Wax? It sounds promising for cleaning out the HVAC system.

    I have found the headliner will trap smell. In addition to vacuuming I have sprayed Tuff-Stuff on a cloth and carefully cleaned the headliner and followed up with a clean damp towel to go over the headliner once more. My 01 Aurora that I bought used had that smell. By cleaning all surfaces as you are the smell was eliminated. Tedious work indeed.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    @henryn said:
    After about a week I started noticing a smell in my new (to me) Chrysler Pacifica. Then yesterday it sat in the hot sun for about an hour, and there it is, the smell of stale cigarette smoke. Which doesn’t surprise me, it was a rental in it’s previous life. So today I am engaged in interior cleaning. First up, check the cabin air filter, which appears to be original and definitely stinks. Three auto parts stores within one mile of my house, checked all 3, not one cabin air filter for a 2019 Pacifica. Oreilly’s, Advance, and AutoZone, no joy.

    Back home, check with Amazon. They have several, with free Prime shipping, but the earliest I can get one is Friday, 3 days out. I can get air filters, or oil filters, many different brands, arrive tomorrow. But not a cabin air filter. The obvious assumption is that people don’t buy cabin air filters. So I took the old one, blew it out with compressed air, sprayed it down with Fabreze, and stuck it back in temporarily.

    Next step is to dump about a pound of baking soda on all of the carpets and then scrub the leather seats and all of the hard surfaces. Has anyone here tried that Odor-X product from Turtle Wax? It sounds promising for cleaning out the HVAC system.

    Even though we have no smoking stickers all over our cars, customers insist on trying to sneak one by. Maybe they’re so rich that they don’t mind several hundreds of dollars extra for clean up. The other day we were told to bring several cars to a detail shop, a new one on me. I asked why they were being detailed rather than just clean them at the office and the agent said “you’ll see why”. Well, the car I got reeked of pot smoke so bad that the interior was sticky. That plus the garbage from the renter’s munchie attack just about made me sick.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Notes about car prices:

    • Car rental companies are buying low mileage used cars, which they never did before.
    • Manheim index shows used car prices are 52% higher than they were a year ago!
    • Manheim’s midmonth report in April said that the rental cars coming to auction had an average of 79,000 miles on them, up 54% compared with a year ago (less than 40000)
    • Rental rates are high....We’re seeing average rates in Florida of $100 a day, $200 a day in Hawaii and $600 a day in Puerto Rico
    • Rental car companies are making big profits as they are at maximum capacity and high rates.
      Oldfarmer should be receiving a big bonus this year.
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-03/rental-companies-buy-up-used-cars-as-microchip-crisis-gets-worse

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,594

    I hope they were able to charge the idiot who left the car in that condition. I just don't understand that attitude, inconsiderate, selfish, slovenly, rude.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    @stickguy said:
    Rent an ionizer machine?

    They're relatively cheap. I've got one I think I paid $40 for off Amazon. Used it in my previous Cobra. Although the previous owner quit smoking a long time ago, he still had smoked in it the first year he owned it. And, even 20+ years later, I could still faintly smell cigarette smoke in it. 10 minutes with the ionizer in the interior with the top up and the windows closed and all traces of cig smoke were totally eliminated. Smelled fresh (and not musty like an old car), too.

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    @kyfdx said:

    @explorerx4 said:
    @graphicguy,
    She'd want you to give away everything you've worked for your whole life.

    He can live on the 2% of her wealth, that she’s keeping. He could still afford to buy the Cincinnati Reds. 🙂

    Plus, I don't come with all the baggage that Bill came with. I don't have all that money to worry about.

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766

    I used some Armorall Freshfx($5 for a small spray can) to fix the nasty musty smell from the vents on startup.
    Spray from the outside with the A/C running. Applied twice a week apart, just in case. Still have a bunch left.

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    @stickguy said:
    Rent an ionizer machine?

    I found this video on youtube,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5LDXk8ov_E

    The guy in the video is unknown to me, but he did seem to be knowledgeable in this area, and he said the only thing that was really going to work was an ozone generator. He recommended this model:

    https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmRSbWNGcWU4UzFFSTViSTZrb2VMRU9jRWJ6d3xBQ3Jtc0tsVHVHQ0g5OWpoNUJIMHVWSHFWWjJMR1RkbFZyaUdxWFBGS1RPOGY5bkxlV0ZBeGZUMmt5TG0wcktpdHM4a1VQSThhb1JfYk5GLUFxNlFaUkRENFNGdUtOeDk2XzJDMmE4YnpYeElrWlNOOHRpem5taw&q=https://amzn.to/2Y013En

    Which was only $49, and had good reviews on Amazon, so I just went ahead and ordered one.

    I also found this article in the Washington Post which pretty much said the same thing, only an ozone generator was going to get the job done.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/home/its-tough-to-get-rid-of-cigarette-smells-but-an-ozone-treatment-can-do-it/2018/11/11/e0d64dfa-dedc-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html

    And a "thank you" to @sda for the tip on the headliner, I had not thought of that.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,684

    If the dealer that sold me the DieselGate Audi knew anything about removing smoke, he must have forgot about the one I bought.

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    Man, cleaning that headliner is going to be a lot of work. While running down information via google on getting rid of cigarette smell in a car, I read one article that recommended taking the car to a professional detailer. The article made mention of that remedy costing "up to $100", which gave me a laugh. The last time I got an estimate for a real professional detail, it was $300 exterior, $175 interior.

    Maybe I can get one of the neighborhood kids (early teens) to do that headliner for $20 or so. Worth a try anyway, as I think doing that much reaching overhead and squirming around might throw my back permanently out of alignment. I've already lined up a guy to do the brakes, a pro who lives down the street from me offered to do all 4 corners for $150. When I was younger, I wouldn't have dreamed of paying someone to do a simple job like brakes. But I'm getting older, and spending that much time stooped over, getting up and down over and over, does not sound like a good idea.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354

    Leave some dryer sheets under the seats.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766

    @henryn,
    If you are buying that ionizer, try that first. It seemed to work for graphicguy.

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    @roadburner said:
    Leave some dryer sheets under the seats.

    The youtube videos put up by professional detailers classify the "dryer sheets" as an "old wives tale" which does not work. Same category as coffee beans or apple slices. I have no idea, but I'm going with the advice of the pros. Which, in my experience, is usually a very good idea.

    And yes, I ordered the ozone generator. But all of the guides which recommended the ozone generator made it clear that EVERYTHING had to be cleaned first. Which I have been doing today, and everything is now clean, with the exception of the headliner. I simply did not think of it until @sda made mention.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681

    @imidazol97 said:
    Great product. They have various types for various odors.

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors
    They specifically address how to handle vehicle smoke odor with a 10 g. AQM pack in your car overnight (with a small fan to circulate the air).

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors

    That's one thing I liked about the OdorXit product.
    Our long time friend was in an assisted care facility where one level was people living in a small double home. She got into one but it was saturated with smoke odor. I recommended the OdorXit based on having used their pet odor enzyme product. The insides of cabinets around drawers in places that could be reached for cleaning were reeking of this cigarette smoke that the elderly guy produced before having to move into a fully assisted living level.

    It worked because the product saturates everywhere to destroy the odor-causing part of the deposits. On a car there're layers of the oils with the smell in behind and inside areas that can't be reached.

    I've wondered if the ozone generators are good for the rubber parts on a car. I know they didn't recommend refrigerators and freezers in a garage with your cars because of the ozone from the electric motors at that time.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681

    Printers. Laser printers are nice. I had an HP for my Apple computer back in the day that communicated by SCSI. I didn't buy the Apple version of that same product. It finally died.
    I had a couple of ink jets, but the Epson gave me fits and the HP was expensive to use. I decided to replace and start over.
    Microcenter had a cheaper Canon with scan and copy feature in an inkjet. And I saw a Pantum laser printer
    that could print duplex with hand turning the page over. Cheap. I bought both for little over $100.
    The Pantum recently quit and I didn't know if it was the toner cartridge was out or the printer died.
    I'd buy another at $79, instead of the earlier $59. It uses Samsung cartridges.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    @imidazol97 said:

    @imidazol97 said:
    Great product. They have various types for various odors.

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors
    They specifically address how to handle vehicle smoke odor with a 10 g. AQM pack in your car overnight (with a small fan to circulate the air).

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors

    That's one thing I liked about the OdorXit product.
    Our long time friend was in an assisted care facility where one level was people living in a small double home. She got into one but it was saturated with smoke odor. I recommended the OdorXit based on having used their pet odor enzyme product. The insides of cabinets around drawers in places that could be reached for cleaning were reeking of this cigarette smoke that the elderly guy produced before having to move into a fully assisted living level.

    It worked because the product saturates everywhere to destroy the odor-causing part of the deposits. On a car there're layers of the oils with the smell in behind and inside areas that can't be reached.

    I've wondered if the ozone generators are good for the rubber parts on a car. I know they didn't recommend refrigerators and freezers in a garage with your cars because of the ozone from the electric motors at that time.

    From the article I linked earlier in the Washington Post:

    The Environmental Protection Agency, which recommends against buying home air-filtering equipment that generates ozone, reviewed numerous scientific studies and concluded that ozone concentrations that do not exceed public health standards have little likelihood of removing odors. But the EPA warned that concentrations high enough to work can cause damage to plants, rubber, electrical wire coatings, fabrics, and the dyes and pigments in some artwork, in addition to causing health problems.

    But further down in the same article:

    To prevent damage to the plastic coating on electrical wires, trained technicians run an ozone generator for only two to four hours at a setting that is safe for wiring.

    I know the pros do this, and the cars don't seem to fall apart or suffer melted insulation on the wiring, so I think it should be safe. The recommendation for cars seems to be about 1 hour.

    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354

    @henryn said:

    @roadburner said:
    Leave some dryer sheets under the seats.

    The youtube videos put up by professional detailers classify the "dryer sheets" as an "old wives tale" which does not work. Same category as coffee beans or apple slices. I have no idea, but I'm going with the advice of the pros. Which, in my experience, is usually a very good idea.

    And yes, I ordered the ozone generator. But all of the guides which recommended the ozone generator made it clear that EVERYTHING had to be cleaned first. Which I have been doing today, and everything is now clean, with the exception of the headliner. I simply did not think of it until @sda made mention.

    IIRC, the "old wife" who suggested that was isell or one of the other salesmen on this forum.
    My E24 had been owned by a smoker, after about a month the smell was gone- but from the get-go once the S38 came on song I didn't care what the PO smoked...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    edited May 2021

    @driver100 said:
    Notes about car prices:

    • Car rental companies are buying low mileage used cars, which they never did before.
    • Manheim index shows used car prices are 52% higher than they were a year ago!
    • Manheim’s midmonth report in April said that the rental cars coming to auction had an average of 79,000 miles on them, up 54% compared with a year ago (less than 40000)
    • Rental rates are high....We’re seeing average rates in Florida of $100 a day, $200 a day in Hawaii and $600 a day in Puerto Rico
    • Rental car companies are making big profits as they are at maximum capacity and high rates.
      Oldfarmer should be receiving a big bonus this year.
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-03/rental-companies-buy-up-used-cars-as-microchip-crisis-gets-worse

    Enterprise has dabbled in the auction market before all this. When Subaru refused to sell at an acceptable price they bought a bunch of low mile one year old units at the auction. Usually cars they send to the auction are lease returns which tend to be high milage. No one knows how much Enterprise makes because they are privately held. I can say they’ve been pretty good to me, regardless.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    @sda said:
    I hope they were able to charge the idiot who left the car in that condition. I just don't understand that attitude, inconsiderate, selfish, slovenly, rude.

    If I understand it correctly, the customer would have to pay the full cost of the detail. That can’t be cheap.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited May 2021

    I just noticed that my audio system in the G90 is a Lexicon (subsidiary of Harman) powered by a 900 watt amplifier (stored in my trunk) with 12 amplified channels through 17 speakers (4 mid-woofers, 1 subwoofer, 7 midrange speakers and 5 tweeters). The quality and performance of the audio system is the best I have ever experienced in any automobile including Mercedes and BMW and Lexus. It includes “Harman Quantum Logic Surround Sound Technology.”

    The recently updated Sirius/XM digital satellite signal includes high definition surround sound. It’s like sitting at Lincoln Center and listening to a philharmonic orchestra or like sitting in the front row center seat at a rock concert. Magnificent audio reproduction with graphic equalizers. 🤓

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    @graphicguy said:

    @stickguy said:
    Rent an ionizer machine?

    They're relatively cheap. I've got one I think I paid $40 for off Amazon. Used it in my previous Cobra. Although the previous owner quit smoking a long time ago, he still had smoked in it the first year he owned it. And, even 20+ years later, I could still faintly smell cigarette smoke in it. 10 minutes with the ionizer in the interior with the top up and the windows closed and all traces of cig smoke were totally eliminated. Smelled fresh (and not musty like an old car), too.

    https://youtu.be/dOdK6HnYqGQ

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018

    @abacomike said:
    I just noticed that my audio system in the G90 is a Lexicon (subsidiary of Harman) powered by a 900 watt amplifier (stored in my trunk) with 12 amplified channels through 17 speakers (4 mid-woofers, 1 subwoofer, 7 midrange speakers and 5 tweeters). The quality and performance of the audio system is the best I have ever experienced in any automobile including Mercedes and BMW and Lexus. It includes “Harman Quantum Logic Surround Sound Technology.”

    The recently updated Sirius/XM digital satellite signal includes high definition surround sound. It’s like sitting at Lincoln Center and listening to a philharmonic orchestra or like sitting in the front row center seat at a rock concert. Magnificent audio reproduction with graphic equalizers. 🤓

    Before Lexicon got gobbled up by Harmon they made some of the best surround sound processors you could buy.

    I had the Lexicon in my Genesis and it was a great system.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126
    edited May 2021

    @henryn said:

    @imidazol97 said:

    @imidazol97 said:
    Great product. They have various types for various odors.

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors
    They specifically address how to handle vehicle smoke odor with a 10 g. AQM pack in your car overnight (with a small fan to circulate the air).

    https://www.odorxit.com/how-to/remove-smoke-odors

    That's one thing I liked about the OdorXit product.
    Our long time friend was in an assisted care facility where one level was people living in a small double home. She got into one but it was saturated with smoke odor. I recommended the OdorXit based on having used their pet odor enzyme product. The insides of cabinets around drawers in places that could be reached for cleaning were reeking of this cigarette smoke that the elderly guy produced before having to move into a fully assisted living level.

    It worked because the product saturates everywhere to destroy the odor-causing part of the deposits. On a car there're layers of the oils with the smell in behind and inside areas that can't be reached.

    I've wondered if the ozone generators are good for the rubber parts on a car. I know they didn't recommend refrigerators and freezers in a garage with your cars because of the ozone from the electric motors at that time.

    From the article I linked earlier in the Washington Post:

    The Environmental Protection Agency, which recommends against buying home air-filtering equipment that generates ozone, reviewed numerous scientific studies and concluded that ozone concentrations that do not exceed public health standards have little likelihood of removing odors. But the EPA warned that concentrations high enough to work can cause damage to plants, rubber, electrical wire coatings, fabrics, and the dyes and pigments in some artwork, in addition to causing health problems.

    But further down in the same article:

    To prevent damage to the plastic coating on electrical wires, trained technicians run an ozone generator for only two to four hours at a setting that is safe for wiring.

    I know the pros do this, and the cars don't seem to fall apart or suffer melted insulation on the wiring, so I think it should be safe. The recommendation for cars seems to be about 1 hour.

    I was looking at one of those allergen eliminators about 6 mos ago. Ended up with one that fits in the ducting that comes out of my HVAC system. Not an ionizer but an intense lite (blue) that the air runs through before getting to my registers. I know having an annual spring time sneezing fit and headaches has been eliminated. Allegedly it eliminates anything viral that’s airborne, too. Can’t attest to that, but I know I didn’t have any sort of virus over the last 6 mos, either.

    Wasn’t cheap ($750 installed) but IMHO, well worth it.

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    @kyfdx said:

    @explorerx4 said:
    @graphicguy,
    She'd want you to give away everything you've worked for your whole life.

    He can live on the 2% of her wealth, that she’s keeping. He could still afford to buy the Cincinnati Reds. 🙂

    And the Bengals. I’d become a Cincinnati Sports Team mogul. And would bring championships and more World Series rings to the area. I’d wear Reds vests all around town and buy another red car with red interior.

    Melinda….I’m still waiting by the phone!

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited May 2021

    An Ode to a Philanthropist [adapted from BB King] @graphicguy Pointe garde

    "The Thrill Is Gone"

    The thrill is gone
    The thrill is gone away
    The thrill is gone baby
    The thrill is gone away
    You know you done me wrong baby
    And you'll be sorry someday

    The thrill is gone
    It's gone away from me
    The thrill is gone baby
    The thrill is gone away from me
    Although, I'll still live on
    But so lonely I'll be

    The thrill is gone
    It's gone away for good
    The thrill is gone baby
    It's gone away for good
    Someday I know I'll be over it all baby
    Just like I know a good man should

    You know I'm free, free now baby
    I'm free from your spell
    Oh I'm free, free, free now
    I'm free from your spell
    And now that it's all over
    All I can do is wish you well

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    @graphicguy better get in line and it will probably be a very long one!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

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