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driver100

Congratulations RB on your new Mustang GT. Nice color too!
Should look good swinging from the Christmas tree.

driver100

"sda"

sda, One thing I always thought was strange, is in most GM cars at the time, if you got the AM/FM stereo, or 8 track it only had a front and rear speaker. True stereo should have been left and right speakers, not front and rear. As such the stereo imaging was not correct. We had that in both our 69 98 and mom's 72 Cutlass. I know that Cadillac offered a 4 speaker stereo at this time, but lesser GM cars not so much. My 70 Cadillac DeVille convertible had 4 factory stereo speakers, 2 up front, 2 in the rear.

sda, FM Stereo radio was first used in cars in 1969....probably took a few more years before it became widely used. Not sure all those speakers in the Cadillac were actually stereo.

1969: First Stereo

Becker’s Europa was the first in-car stereo setup, with the tuner amplifying two channels instead of one.
AND,
1982: Bose Becomes First Premium Stereo System

Bose and GM’s Delco teamed up to offer the first “designer” stereo system. Bose sank money into car-specific development; rather than just producing an expensive head unit, it was marketing the entire system to Oldsmobile, Buick, and Cadillac shoppers.

driver100

ab348

Interesting article about VW and its dealers in Automotive News:

Great article ab....glad you printed it and gave us the link.
The letters were insightful too.
Made for very interesting reading....and you do have to wonder, what is going on? No fixes in place, no plan, no announcements...it's like the execs have hidden their heads in the sand.

sda

driver100 said:

"sda"

sda, One thing I always thought was strange, is in most GM cars at the time, if you got the AM/FM stereo, or 8 track it only had a front and rear speaker. True stereo should have been left and right speakers, not front and rear. As such the stereo imaging was not correct. We had that in both our 69 98 and mom's 72 Cutlass. I know that Cadillac offered a 4 speaker stereo at this time, but lesser GM cars not so much. My 70 Cadillac DeVille convertible had 4 factory stereo speakers, 2 up front, 2 in the rear.

sda, FM Stereo radio was first used in cars in 1969....probably took a few more years before it became widely used. Not sure all those speakers in the Cadillac were actually stereo.

1969: First Stereo

Becker’s Europa was the first in-car stereo setup, with the tuner amplifying two channels instead of one.
AND,
1982: Bose Becomes First Premium Stereo System

Bose and GM’s Delco teamed up to offer the first “designer” stereo system. Bose sank money into car-specific development; rather than just producing an expensive head unit, it was marketing the entire system to Oldsmobile, Buick, and Cadillac shoppers.

The radio display would light up STEREO in the 70 Cadillac and 72 Cutlass when tuned into a radio station that broadcasted in stereo. The price difference between a standard AM/FM radio and stereo was pretty steep. I guess they weren't true stereo as you point out. I do remember that in 73 dad was looking to replace his 71 Pontiac Catalina company car for another Catalina. He looked all over the lot to find a Catalina with the stereo upgrade. He only found one which he bought. When his boss approved the purchase his boss called out to dad that dad had to buy the one with the 'expensive' radio. :@

imidazol97

It's finally happened. The US is being blamed for being Deutschlandophobic for being the place where the pollution scandal of VW's diesels was exposed first.

"At the same time, among the German public there are signs of resentment and skepticism toward the United States, where VW’s cheating was exposed. Even if Volkswagen cars were programmed to conceal their emissions of harmful nitrogen oxide, that view goes, America is still the land of gas guzzlers.

"“There is this general notion that the U.S. is overstating the case in order to damage one of the major competitors of the U.S. carmakers,” said Nils Stieglitz, a professor at the Frankfurt School of Finance who studies corporate strategy."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/business/sarcasm-and-doubt-precede-vws-update-on-cheating-inquiry.html?_r=0

Unbelievable. With all the land, reduced taxes, and assistance in training workers and who knows what other tax breaks the VW company and others are given, they have the chutzpah to criticize the US as being anti-Germany!!!

Let's see how much of the potential $18,000,000,000 VW/Audi ends up paying in the US as fines for producing cars that exceed the NOx guidelines.

And people complain about GM's having had a loan from the government to save jobs and the economy... over a perception that somehow they were mistreated so a few try to punish GM at every chance.

abacomike

Might get out of here tomorrow.  Once the final test results are in and they read the ultrasound of the DVT and compare it with last week's test, I should be able to go home.  They will provide physical therapy at home several times a week.  Hope I don't need rehab - but if I do, I will go there for a couple of days.

imidazol97

abacomike said:

Hope I don't need rehab - but if I do, I will go there for a couple of days.

I'm thinking that you've been inactive in terms of moving and walking normally since the procedure. That's a lot of days with no real excercise because you were so weak and light headed. Your muscles have weakened.

abacomike

imidazol97 said:

It's finally happened. The US is being blamed for being Deutschlandophobic for being the place where the pollution scandal of VW's diesels was exposed first.

"At the same time, among the German public there are signs of resentment and skepticism toward the United States, where VW’s cheating was exposed. Even if Volkswagen cars were programmed to conceal their emissions of harmful nitrogen oxide, that view goes, America is still the land of gas guzzlers.

"“There is this general notion that the U.S. is overstating the case in order to damage one of the major competitors of the U.S. carmakers,” said Nils Stieglitz, a professor at the Frankfurt School of Finance who studies corporate strategy."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/business/sarcasm-and-doubt-precede-vws-update-on-cheating-inquiry.html?_r=0

Unbelievable. With all the land, reduced taxes, and assistance in training workers and who knows what other tax breaks the VW company and others are given, they have the chutzpah to criticize the US as being anti-Germany!!!

Let's see how much of the potential $18,000,000,000 VW/Audi ends up paying in the US as fines for producing cars that exceed the NOx guidelines. And people complain about GM's having had a loan from the government to save jobs and the economy...

"chutzpah"?  An interesting choice of words to use in this instance.  Frijoles?  Audacity?  Nerve?  Globes?  I like it!  Chutzpah is very appropriate!!!  

abacomike

imidazol97 said:

Hope I don't need rehab - but if I do, I will go there for a couple of days.

I'm thinking that you've been inactive in terms of moving and walking normally since the procedure. That's a lot of days with no real excercise because you were so weak and light headed. Your muscles have weakened.

Yes.  Definitely need to build up my muscle tone and stamina.

dino001

imidazol97 said:

It's finally happened. The US is being blamed for being Deutschlandophobic for being the place where the pollution scandal of VW's diesels was exposed first.

"At
the same time, among the German public there are signs of resentment
and skepticism toward the United States, where VW’s cheating was
exposed. Even if Volkswagen cars were programmed to conceal their
emissions of harmful nitrogen oxide, that view goes, America is still
the land of gas guzzlers.

"“There
is this general notion that the U.S. is overstating the case in order
to damage one of the major competitors of the U.S. carmakers,” said Nils
Stieglitz, a professor at the Frankfurt School of Finance who studies
corporate strategy."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/business/sarcasm-and-doubt-precede-vws-update-on-cheating-inquiry.html?_r=0

Unbelievable. With all the land, reduced taxes, and assistance in training workers and who knows what other tax breaks the VW company and others are given, they have the chutzpah to criticize the US as being anti-Germany!!!

Let's see how much of the potential $18,000,000,000 VW/Audi ends up paying in the US as fines for producing cars that exceed the NOx guidelines.

And people complain about GM's having had a loan from the government to save jobs and the economy... over a perception that somehow they were mistreated so a few try to punish GM at every chance.

You can find people believing in conspiracies everywhere, especially in those places that are adversely affected by global economic changes, or some other big events. Some Germans believing US has it for them is no different in my view than some GM fans blaming the company's woes on everything, but GM itself, from currency manipulation, to press conspiracy, or other similar nonsense.

oldfarmer50

Kirstie_H said:

graphicguy said:

Twice the cool factor. Like them both. Big ups. When did you add them to the fleet? Can we add them to the punch list this year?

VW purchased July 28, 2015, and the Camaro purchased August 2015. The Camaro purchase came after our Crossfire died at the top of an interstate off-ramp. Cost to repair was going to be close the the vehicle's value, and having owned it (purchased used) for 7+ years, it was time for something else.

After trading in the Crossfire, a good friend of ours was dismayed because he said he would have wanted it. He ended up working with the dealership to purchase it back from them (still broken) for what they gave us on trade-in. That's still a work in progress, but we hope he can get it running again soon.

Kirstie_H said:

graphicguy said:

Twice the cool factor. Like them both. Big ups. When did you add them to the fleet? Can we add them to the punch list this year?

VW purchased July 28, 2015, and the Camaro purchased August 2015. The Camaro purchase came after our Crossfire died at the top of an interstate off-ramp. Cost to repair was going to be close the the vehicle's value, and having owned it (purchased used) for 7+ years, it was time for something else.

After trading in the Crossfire, a good friend of ours was dismayed because he said he would have wanted it. He ended up working with the dealership to purchase it back from them (still broken) for what they gave us on trade-in. That's still a work in progress, but we hope he can get it running again soon.

Could you elaborate on what went bad on your Crossfire and at what milage? I have a friend who is considering either a CF or an Audi TT.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

Good news! I finally found a new properly equipped Mustang GT that I could afford- and I bought it!!!

Well, we'll expect a full detailed report when you get back from driving it tonight.

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

Good news! I finally found a new properly equipped Mustang GT that I could afford- and I bought it!!!

Well, we'll expect a full detailed report when you get back from driving it tonight.

You might want a bow to put on the hood for Christmas. Remember all those toyota commercials and "Christmas to Remember." I'd recommend the white bow.



http://www.carbowstore.com/

stickguy

the funniest part about that VW article is implying that the US gov't is doing it to protect the reeling US auto industry from VW eating its lunch. Not quite what is happening.

driver100

And then a statement like this:
“There is this general notion that the U.S. is overstating the case in order to damage one of the major competitors of the U.S. carmakers,” said Nils Stieglitz, a professor at the Frankfurt School of Finance who studies corporate strategy.

The lunies and the fringe groups are coming out of the woodwork.

abacomike

driver100 said:

And then a statement like this: “There is this general notion that the U.S. is overstating the case in order to damage one of the major competitors of the U.S. carmakers,” said Nils Stieglitz, a professor at the Frankfurt School of Finance who studies corporate strategy. The lunies and the fringe groups are coming out of the woodwork.

I don't know about the "lunies" coming out of the woodwork, but the "loonies" sure are!  

driver100

Would anyone care to comment on what you would do in this case? This happened in our semi gated community in Florida.

We were walking our dog on one of the streets in the complex and we saw a car backing up at full speed on the street. The car backed up and went over the lawn and over the cement curb. It looked like a scene from a movie, Fast and Furious.

I thought the driver would stop to assess any damage, but the driver put the car in drive and floored the car to a speed of between 50 and 60 mph (posted speed limit is 15 mph). He went over another curb and up onto the lawn coming close to the house on the curve.

We were on the other side of the street and ran up the side road in case he cut across that lawn as well. If someone was walking OR if we were walking on the other side of the street we would have been hit! 3 people witnessed the whole thing.

The car was a Toyota. There were several witnesses who were shocked by what they saw, and believe this person is a danger to the community.
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I wrote this to the president of the board and to our almost useless management company. I have heard from a source they plan on finding a way to slow down traffic in the complex, maybe put in speed bumps.

My point is this is not just a case of speeding, this is a case of reckless driving and endangering residents. I told the board that I put my experience in writing because if something happens to me and they do not act they are being negligent (and I will sue their butts off).

I am thinking if the board doesn't act then I will at least report the incident to the police, so they will have a record of it. I'd rather not do this because I don't want this loose canon trying to get revenge.

Apparently this guy rents the unit and we are pretty certain he had a big argument with his partner and he got mad and took off - probably DUI.

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abacomike

Driver, it's probably too late to call the police in on this.  But I would get together with the other witnesses and compose a detailed accounting of the event (like you already did above) and have all witnesses sign the detailed account and submit it to the board of directors.  Let the Board of Directors deal with it through the administrstor's office and the security director with the owner of the condo unit.  I am sure there is sufficient language in the bylaws to cover this dangerous behavior.  

stever

stickguy said:

the funniest part about that VW article is implying that the US gov't is doing it to protect the reeling US auto industry from VW eating its lunch. Not quite what is happening.

TN gave VW a ton of incentives to get them to build the plant in Chattanooga. And Chattanooga really loves their Passats, although some residents have heartburn over the union organizing and recent skilled trades workers throwing in with the UAW.

All in all, I bet they wish Tupelo/Blue Springs hadn't beat them out for the Toyota plant.

driver100

abacomike said:

Driver, it's probably too late to call the police in on this.  But I would get together with the other witnesses and compose a detailed accounting of the event (like you already did above) and have all witnesses sign the detailed account and submit it to the board of directors.  Let the Board of Directors deal with it through the administrstor's office and the security director with the owner of the condo unit.  I am sure there is sufficient language in the bylaws to cover this dangerous behavior.  

Thanks Mike....sounds like good info....... your brain is working 100%

Lunie was Canadian spelling!

abacomike

@driver100 said:

"Lunie was Canadian spelling!"

Ahh, Canadian spelling.  Churchill was right - "...separated by a common language..."!

berri

Isn't the Loonie their dollar coin? Speaking of loonie, how is the hospital stay You can run into some amusing people and incidents in those places!

verdugo

abacomike said:

"chutzpah"?  An interesting choice of words to use in this instance.  Frijoles?  Audacity?  Nerve?  Globes?  I like it!  Chutzpah is very appropriate!!!  

Frijoles? I think you meant cojones.

Frijoles means beans. I guess it could apply since they're spewing gas.

abacomike

berri said:

Isn't the Loonie their dollar coin? Speaking of loonie, how is the hospital stay You can run into some amusing people and incidents in those places!

"Amusing" is one word I am unable to use to describe my experiences or stay at this hospital.  The doctor is an obnoxious and egotistical jerk - she thinks she knows it all!

The nurses during this stay are a big improvement over my last stay.  I feel like a pin cushion after all the cardiac enzyme blood tests.  I just can't wait to get out of this bed and do some walking with a physical therapist.  

I keep looking for pictures of my new car because I forget what it looks like - good thing I brought my cell phone and charger,

No, amusing just is not a word that adequately describes my experiences here.  Perhaps purgatory is a more appropriate word!  

iluvmysephia1

Hospitals or...asylums! They're sometimes one and the same - I work in them so I know first-hand!

abacomike

iluvmysephia1 said:

Hospitals or...asylums! They're sometimes one and the same - I work in them so I know first-hand!

Come to think of it, I feel more like an inmate than a patient!  

28firefighter

As someone with a myriad of health issues with more hospital stays than I care to admit for someone under 30, I can tell you that the single most important thing for me when I am in the hospital is to have someone who can advocate for me. Whether it's a family member, a friend or health aid, it can truly save your life. 

There are two primary reasons. First, most of the major hospitals are teaching hospitals. Your first line in those places are interns and residents. They need to learn, but you need someone who can stop the learning train if it's going the wrong way and be a constant voice on your behalf. Second, most units are understaffed and the patient:nurse ratio is very high. Having someone to handle knucklehead stuff (read: ice chips, jello, pillow adjustments) means nurses are able to focus on you for truly medical issues.

Short story for you: When I was 20 I was admitted to the hospital for a flare-up of my chronic illness.  This was when I was away at school with no family around. It was urgent and I needed several imaging studies run immediately to ensure I wasn't in need of emergency surgery. However, my pain was so bad, they gave me pain meds which put me out of it. They left me in a hallway basically forgot about me for at least 2-3 hours - critical time. When I woke up, my best friend (who happens to be an ER nurse) had found me and had called my attending and was tearing into the interns for not rushing me for the imaging studies and additional tests. Without her being there, I might have laid in the ER like a corpse for hours without care. It's nothing personal I realize, but still potentially disastrous.  I was/am very lucky that she came when she did - she saved me from surgery. 

Fun fact, when I was finally let out a few days later, my car had been towed because someone put up a temporary no parking sign. 

suydam

Being in a hospital is awful. No fun involved. But if you need to be there don't be in a rush to go home. It does really help to have an advocate. I hope you have a friend or neighbor who can help out.

driver100

Apparently the guy who sped through our community and drove over curbs and lawns was arrested last night. There is a restraining order and he isn't allowed back on the property. I think he had a fight with his partner.

Living in Florida is sure different than back home. Back home I read about these things, but never experience them first hand.

driver100

berri said:

Isn't the Loonie their dollar coin?

You are correct, very good....a looney is our dollar coin because it has a picture of a Loon (the bird, not the moron) on it.
We also have two dollar coins which we call Tooneys.
And, we got rid of pennies about 4 years ago......I wish you would too. They cost 2 cents to make and they are useless.

abacomike

At 4:00 AM this morning, this old man (had to be 90 years old) dressed in a grey suit, pink shirt and lilac tie and smelled like he had broken a bottle of cheap cologne all over himself, comes into my hospital room.  He introduced himself as Dr. Gillespie and that he was a cardiologist covering for my cardiologist.  He told me that my tests were negative but that I had some residual effects from my heart attack and it would take a few weeks before I felt better.  I responded to him, "...and this information couldn't wait until 7:30 or 8:00 AM?"  He said he had 5 hospitals to visit today and thought he'd get an early start!

Good grief - 4:00 AM is when I am usually awakened for blood tests, not a doctor visit.  I tell you he was at least 90 years old - I kid you not!  And my hospital room still smells like a funeral home!  

suydam

Doctors show up at their convenience, not yours. So does that mean "a few weeks" there or at home, or at a rehab facility?

imidazol97

driver100 said:

Would anyone care to comment on what you would do in this case? This happened in our semi gated community in Florida.

We were walking our dog on one of the streets in the complex and we saw a car backing up at full speed on the street. The car backed up and went over the lawn and over the cement curb. It looked like a scene from a movie, Fast and Furious.

I thought the driver would stop to assess any damage, but the driver put the car in drive and floored the car to a speed of between 50 and 60 mph (posted speed limit is 15 mph).
The car was a Toyota.

toyota? Another case of their Sudden Intended Acceleration from a few years back?

abacomike

suydam said:

Doctors show up at their convenience, not yours. So does that mean "a few weeks" there or at home, or at a rehab facility?

Probably home unless I flunk the walking test.  

graphicguy

firefighter...couldn't agree more about having an "advocate" when in a hospital. Given I was 5 hours away from anyone (sent my son home) when I had my event, Northwestern, which is a great hospital, thought they would use me as a guinea pig.

Aside from the hourly blood drawing, they also wanted to do a full body CAT scan. Nobody told them "no", and no one asked me. They just wheeled me into the scanner. After about 20 minutes of this, and being a bit claustrophobic, I finally had to yell loud enough to the technician in the other room to get me out of their "tube".

After complaining, they said they didn't think I'd mind and given they were also a teaching hospital, they thought it would be good to enter my physical malady and subsequent recovery into their database. Again, no one asked me if it was OK, which I told the Chief of Cardiology, when I finally got him rounded up to talk to me.

Since they did not get my prior consent, either verbally and even in writing, they realized their faux pas, and removed any co-pays for my stay.....which was a significant amount.

Back to cars, already have 700 miles on the CTS. Holding steady at 24 MPG in mixed driving, about 22 MPG all city and the 30 MPG I got in all highway. I haven't babied it. Nothing untoward going on. HIgh quality build. Tossable. Steering is world's better than on the '14, as is the suspension and electronics. 8-speed trans is a gem.

I never did believe those who said never to buy a first year car. Apparently, with Cadillac anyway, there's a lot of truth in that. This one is the one that Cadillac should have introduced. My '14 was not remotely ready for prime time.

abacomike

GG, it's good to see you are enjoying your new CTS.  I believe that if you give the car a chance to prove itself, you will be more inclined to keep it.  

imidazol97

graphicguy said:

HIgh quality build. Tossable. Steering is world's better than on the '14, as is the suspension and electronics. 8-speed trans is a gem.

I never did believe those who said never to buy a first year car. Apparently, with Cadillac anyway, there's a lot of truth in that. This one is the one that Cadillac should have introduced. My '14 was not remotely ready for prime time.

Glad it's working for you.

driver100

Having an advocate to make decisions is a great idea. That would mean naming a Power of Attorney for health affairs, and that should be done legally.

Normally that would be my daughter and SIL....but since he would just tell them to pull the plug I decided to ask a friend.

driver100

GG, Glad you are enjoying the Cadillac. It sounds like this one may be a keeper!

And why not, if you like the way it runs you may as well keep it as long as you enjoy it!

driver100

Mike, the good news is you are having some interesting experiences and meeting some interesting people. I guess the bad news is you don't really want to have these experiences or want to meet these people like Dr Lounge Lizard.

abacomike

driver100 said:

Mike, the good news is you are having some interesting experiences and meeting some interesting people. I guess the bad news is you don't really want to have these experiences or want to meet these people like Dr Lounge Lizard.

This is true!  

PF_Flyer

Ran out of road this morning

ab348

abacomike said:

At 4:00 AM this morning, this old man (had to be 90 years old) dressed in a grey suit, pink shirt and lilac tie and smelled like he had broken a bottle of cheap cologne all over himself, comes into my hospital room.  He introduced himself as Dr. Gillespie and that he was a cardiologist covering for my cardiologist.  He told me that my tests were negative but that I had some residual effects from my heart attack and it would take a few weeks before I felt better.  I responded to him, "...and this information couldn't wait until 7:30 or 8:00 AM?"  He said he had 5 hospitals to visit today and thought he'd get an early start!

Good grief - 4:00 AM is when I am usually awakened for blood tests, not a doctor visit.  I tell you he was at least 90 years old - I kid you not!  And my hospital room still smells like a funeral home!  

Ah, memories of my 2 weeks in hospital at the end of '09. I had a very hard time getting adjusted to their schedule. Checking you at 2AM to see if you were asleep which meant turning on the lights and waking you up! Being awakened very early for daily blood collection before breakfast. Then just sitting around in bed or in a chair most of the day, interrupted by IVs and various other things they did to you. Lunch delivered at 11AM. You got excited about that until you lifted the lid and saw it. Lights out at 10PM! Then noise in the halls until midnight to keep you from sleeping. Good times!

PF_Flyer

abacomike said:

At 4:00 AM this morning, this old man (had to be 90 years old) dressed in a grey suit, pink shirt and lilac tie and smelled like he had broken a bottle of cheap cologne all over himself, comes into my hospital room.  He introduced himself as Dr. Gillespie and that he was a cardiologist covering for my cardiologist.  He told me that my tests were negative but that I had some residual effects from my heart attack and it would take a few weeks before I felt better.  I responded to him, "...and this information couldn't wait until 7:30 or 8:00 AM?"  He said he had 5 hospitals to visit today and thought he'd get an early start!

Good grief - 4:00 AM is when I am usually awakened for blood tests, not a doctor visit.  I tell you he was at least 90 years old - I kid you not!  And my hospital room still smells like a funeral home!  

Dr Zorba Gillespie??

stickguy

Hospitals are terrible places to get rest. Or better actually.

28firefighter

Keep trucking, Mike!

abacomike

PF_Flyer said:

At 4:00 AM this morning, this old man (had to be 90 years old) dressed in a grey suit, pink shirt and lilac tie and smelled like he had broken a bottle of cheap cologne all over himself, comes into my hospital room.  He introduced himself as Dr. Gillespie and that he was a cardiologist covering for my cardiologist.  He told me that my tests were negative but that I had some residual effects from my heart attack and it would take a few weeks before I felt better.  I responded to him, "...and this information couldn't wait until 7:30 or 8:00 AM?"  He said he had 5 hospitals to visit today and thought he'd get an early start!

Good grief - 4:00 AM is when I am usually awakened for blood tests, not a doctor visit.  I tell you he was at least 90 years old - I kid you not!  And my hospital room still smells like a funeral home!  

Dr Zorba Gillespie??

They must have been twins - that doctor (cardiologist) looked and smelled more like a funeral director.  I had a great uncle who was a funeral director at Riverside Funeral Homes on Amsterdam Avenue and Central Park West (NYC).  Even dressed in casual clothes, you knew he was a funeral director.  6'2" tall, slim, completely bald, and the look of the Angel of Death.  But I loved him dearly.  He had a wry sense of humor.  He arranged the funeral of Fanny Brice (from the movie "Fanny").

When he passed away, we had his body flown to the Amsterdam Avenue Funeral Home - all the employees came to see him (embalmers, funeral directors, hearse drivers, limo drivers, etc).  He was loved by everyone.

BTW - I failed the blood pressure test (sitting and standing).  Blood pressure is too low.  Now I have to deal with the doctors who wanted to discharge me today.

ab348

abacomike said:

BTW - I failed the blood pressure test (sitting and standing).  Blood pressure is too low.  Now I have to deal with the doctors who wanted to discharge me today.

I recommend a family-size bag of extra-salty potato chips, followed by several kosher dill pickles.

abacomike

ab348 said:

BTW - I failed the blood pressure test (sitting and standing).  Blood pressure is too low.  Now I have to deal with the doctors who wanted to discharge me today.

I recommend a family-size bag of extra-salty potato chips, followed by several kosher dill pickles.

"...a bowl of fava beans and a nice Chianti!"  

henryn

abacomike said:

BTW - I failed the blood pressure test (sitting and standing).  Blood pressure is too low.  Now I have to deal with the doctors who wanted to discharge me today.

Oops! Are you still taking ALL of the meds, including those drastic ones for the Hep C? I get the sneaky suspicion those drugs may be the biggest contributor to your problems.