Why would someone buying a $30,000 pickup truck CARE if his truck gets 17 mpg vs. 14 or 15 mpg?
Here in Georgia, for average drivers, that might mean $150 - $200 or so a year less on gas expense. The total cost (interest, depreciation, insurance, fuel, maintenance, taxes, etc) of owning one of these guys runs up to roughly $6500 a year, depending on how long you keep it.
It's a factor, sure, but one I'd rank slightly behind cup holders or vanity mirror placement.
You shouldn't make blanket statements about a vehicle line's quality based on your personal experience alone. My '98 Ford with the 4.6 V-8 has 25,000 miles, towing a work trailer daily, starting and stopping 12 times a day, short trips of 5-15 min each, and has never had any problems.
I have to agree, The F-150's look much better with proper sized aftermarket wheels and tires. Much more aggressive look than the spindly stock setup. I rank the Rams top in looks, then Fords, then the new Silverado (just doesn't fit together right in my eye)
Most Fords are plain-jane looking, but it's hard to beat a Flareside 4x4 with beefy tires and increased offset on the wheels.
Now, if they can only put the Ram's seats, steering ratio, and interior in the F-150.....or maybe the Ford's refinement, handling and paint quality in a Ram, toss in a chevy engine......
Difference between 17 and 14 or 15 mpg important to me? You bet! My truck wasn't anywhere near $30,000 either. And we are not all as lucky to live in a state like Georgia, where last time I passed through there, they had just about the cheapest gas prices in the nation, could be 30 cents a gallon less than here in Colorado on any given day.
But I follow your math. Probably not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
I have to agree with you on this. The mileage is what definitely keeps the Silverado/Sierra firmly in my purchase sights along with the Tundra. The gas mileage on the 5.3 has been great, even exceeding the posted 18 for the highway from the postst I have read here. I have also seen a Tundra post that said it exceeded the 17 mpg highway listing. Now on the Fords and Dodges, I regularly read that they are getting less than the average posting and in many cases quite a bit less. I really wouldn't mind the Ford with the 5.4 if the mileage was better, now if it had the GM 5.3 or even 4.8 or the Tundra engine, I would probably have already purchased one. I have consistently read where the Dodge 5.2 or 5.9 generally underachieve the mileage that was posted. It will be interesting to see how the new Mopar engines due on the redesign. Mileage still hits you in the pocketbook no matter how you look at it.
A 4 mpg difference over a 25K mile/year makes a $400 dollar difference per year. If I keep my truck for 6 years, that means the present value costs of the lesser mileage truck is about $2000. Would you keep a truck choice in the running if it costs you $2000 more off the top? just my math and my opinion....
I look at ownership costs as a part of the total price. like a diesel that has high maintenance costs for oil changes and repairs. that makes the present value price of the diesel much more than the 4000 dollar option on the driveout price. its the price of ownership, not just the buy price.
As I have read through peoples' posings over the last few weeks, you begin to realize that each brand has vehicles out there with a few problems, and then there are some real lemons. I can not fault a person who has had a lemon saying he'll never buy that brand again - however without a large statistical sampling such as Consumer Reports, his can happen in any brand. Check any foreign vehicle posting also. What I am making my decision on is: interior room, power, gas mileage, brakes, and 4wd systems. If you do the research, you'll see that GMC/Chevy wins on all accounts. I see that the Ford and Dodge are somewhat less $ - but you're getting slightly more. Also as many people have a GM card rebate account that makes the price more equal.
I've read with amusement all your comments over the last few months. I'm new to this site and a first time truck buyer. I want to thank you all for your candid comments and say I'll be buying the Silverado 1500. My 6'4" frame fits nicely and my wife, being 5'1", can actually climb into the cab without a step-ladder! The rear seat is actually usable and the most comfortable of all the 1/2 tons (the 4th door would be nice to have, but not critical). The technology is 1st class. Ever had an electrical problem? The fewer splices, the better! It has unbelievable power, a solid feel, a smooth power-train, and it stops quicker than most cars. And it actually looks like a truck!
Some test-drive comments...
The Toyota Tundra: Hopefully it will grow up some day and become a real truck...
The Dodge Ram 1500: Although cool-looking, didn't have good rear seat room (even for my wife!). It also shifted hard and had a very noisy interior. The fan noise alone was deafening -- even on low! And yes, gas mileage is important. In California we're paying 20-40 cents more per gallon than the rest of the country!
The Ford F-150: Nice truck. Smooth, powerful. Definitely a close 2nd. It does feel considerably smaller inside, and has less back seat room. And, I'm sorry, but it's just too swoopy.
To everyone who commented on the full size trucks, thank you. My decision was to go with the Silverado. To the skeptics, yes I know it will have growing pains. Most of us have read about the rattles, vibrations, clunks, etc. But this is common with most new redesigns. This will be my first chevrolet after owning fords and dodges recently and they also had rattles and hardware noises. However, I've owned a nissan sentra and had great fortune with it...very reliable. But, buying American is important for me and I feel that Chevrolet is like apple pie and baseball. I should get my truck the 1st or 2nd week of Sept. I will post followups to let everyone know how I like it. Jeff
I took delivery today of a 2000 Silverado LS extracab with the 5.3. Very pleased with this purchase, I'm hoping time will prove it a good purchase.
First off, I don't think I would be disappointed owning any of the big three trucks. I even (briefly) considered the Tundra, but dealers around here are going full MSRP plus dealer installed garbage, and I'm sorry Toyota (I'm a toyota fan too) if you're gonna build a full size truck, step one is to make it full size! I did test drive the Tundra, and its got a great hi-tech motor and a very refined ride. Watch this space, I think they'll get this one right.....
I've got friends who love their Rams, but I don't get the warm fuzzies about the reliability factor there, that aside, I liked the truck pretty well.
Ford vs Chevy was a very very tough call. I liked the F150 quite a bit, and could very easily live with that truck, its got a lot of going for it: ride quality, fit and finish, etc. But for me, the Silverado edged it out slightly for what I want out of a truck: elegant styling, lots of room, clean well thought out interior, excellent brakes and wow this can't be a truck handling, and the cherry on top? the new 5.3 motor is a gem! smooth and powerful and fairly economical, its just a great combination in my eyes.
The competition in this segment is producing some great machines. I do love this truck so far, I hope it hangs tough for me.
Will report back with more impressions as I get some miles on ..... I have enjoyed reading the posts here, very helpful in the decision making process.....
Am I the only person who has a problem with the 1999/2000 GMC/Chevy inside door handle placement? I am of "medium" build, and absolutely cannot comfortably reach the inside door handle in the truck! It seems to be about 6-8 inches too far rearward in the door, and opens upward/inward in a most uncomfortable way! I wonder why they seemed to miss an obvious placement of this in a more forward location on the door? Secondly, why is the parking brake release handle located so far inboard, almost under the steering column? The most natural location for it is near the brake pedal - you have to really squirm your knees out of the way to release the brake (is this some new low-tech safety feature?). I am just now shopping around for a new model, but won't buy GMC till these are fixed, but maybe then I will have switched over to another nameplate. Anybody else notice these things?
I'd like to buy the my2000 Silverado but must wonder. I'm trying to justify a purchase. Any ideas ?
From The NHTSA
ODI ID: Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALLED AS O
ODI ID: 544286 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER Summary: INFORMATION ON ALL NEW LIGHT TRUCKS MODEL YEAR 1999 MUST HAVE DUAL AIR BAGS, TRUCK IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH A PASSENGER SIDE AIR BAG.
ODI ID: 544286 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:INSTRUMENT PANEL:OTHER PART Summary: POSITION OF THE ASHTRAY IN FRONT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO USE ASHTRAY IF THE CUPHOLDER IS EXTENDED AND UNSAFE IF IT IS NOT.
ODI ID: 544762 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EMERGENCY PARKING BRAKE Summary: PARKING BRAKE POTRUDES BY DESIGN CAUSING DRIVERS PANTS LEG TO GET CAUGHT AND TO ALMOST FALL.
ODI ID: 545155 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM Summary: COMPUTERIZED ENGINE DESIGN DOES NOT INCLUDE MONITORING ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE FOR APPROPRIATE CYCLIC FUNCTION AND INDICATING PROPER THERMOSTAT PROTECTION, P
ODI ID: 547542 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALL AS O
ODI ID: 701046 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, November 01, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: STEERING:GEAR:RACK AND PINION Summary: THE 1999 CHEV. SILVERADO WITH RACK AND PINION HAS MANY PROBLEMS AND G-M IS TRYING TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG. FOR VERIFICATION OF THE PROBLEM C
ODI ID: 702261 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, December 28, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: STEERING:WHEEL AND COLUMN Summary: STEERING WHEEL BEGINS SHAKING AT 60MPH. SHAKING INCREASES WITH SPEED.
ODI ID: 702433 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Thursday, December 31, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: TIRES Summary: VIBRATION AT VARIOUS SPEEDS . SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT TRACTION ON WET PAVEMENT . BEEN TO 3 DEALERS WITH NO SATISFACTION . LOST ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS WHILE TRYING T
ODI ID: 702539 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 15, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: FUEL:THROTTLE LINKAGES AND CONTROL Summary: ACCELERATOR LINKAGE STICKS AT IDLE SPEED. CAUSES PEDAL TO TRAVEL TOO FAR ONCE "UNSTUCK" HIGH POWER TAKE OFFS FROM STOPPED.
ODI ID: 704079 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: BRAKES:AIR:ANTILOCK SYSTEM Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD. CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704079 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD. CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704707 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: NON-VEHICLE LETTERS (ASSIGNED BY ODI ONLY) Summary: NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR THIS VEHICLE. *AK
ODI ID: 704973 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, March 26, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: VISUAL SYSTEMS:GLASS:WINDOW:TAILGATE AND BACK DOOR Summary: THE LEFT REAR WING GLASS/EXTENDED CAB LEW OUT -WINDOW WAS CLOSED /DID NOT STRIKE ANYTHING, BUT WENT ACROSS THE OPPOSITE LANE OF TRAFFIC AND LANDED ON THE SIDE
ODI ID: 705301 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Thursday, April 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM Summary: 1ST: TURNING ON A SHARP BEND AT TEN MILES AN HOUR, BRAKES WERE APPLIED (LIGHTLY) AND VEHICLE BEGAN TO FISHTAIL. 2ND: VEHICLE WAS TRAVELING AT APPROXIMATELY 4
ODI ID: 705380 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: TRUCK HAS A VIBRATION BETWEEN 1100 &1500 RPM WHEN GOING UP HILLS IT IS BAD. WAS TOLD BY THE DEALER NO FIX, BUT ALL NEW SILVERADOS DOING IT. *AK
ODI ID: 705644 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EQUIPMENT:ELECTRIC POWER ACCESSORIES:SEATS Summary: THE POWER SEATS CLUNK ALL THE TIME EVERYDAY AND THE STEERING WHEEL VIBRATES/GRINDS
ODI ID: 705819 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, October 05, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT Summary: OTHER EQUIPMENT; SEVERE VIBRATION THAT FEELS LIKE BODY FLEXES BETWEEN 65-75MPH. I HAVE SLOWED AND PULLED OFF ONTO THE SHOULD FEARING PERSONAL SAFTEY. I HAVE B
ODI ID: 705819 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, October 05, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC Summary: OTHER EQUIPMENT; SEVERE VIBRATION THAT FEELS LIKE BODY FLEXES BETWEEN 65-75MPH. I HAVE SLOWED AND PULLED OFF ONTO THE SHOULD FEARING PERSONAL SAFTEY. I HAVE B
ODI ID: 705972 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, March 07, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT Summary: I TOOK DELIVERY OF VEHICLE ON 3-1-99. NOTICED FRONT END VIBRATION AT 65 MPH. TOOK VEHICLE BACK TO DEALER. I WAS TOLD IT WAS A GOODYEAR TIRE PROBLEM. THEY REPLAC
ODI ID: 705972 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, March 07, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: POWER TRAIN:DRIVESHAFT Summary: I TOOK DELIVERY OF VEHICLE ON 3-1-99. NOTICED FRONT END VIBRATION AT 65 MPH. TOOK VEHICLE BACK TO DEALER. I WAS TOLD IT WAS A GOODYEAR TIRE PROBLEM. THEY REPLAC
ODI ID: 706200 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT Summary: NO SUMMARY
ODI ID: 706913 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, February 05, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC Summary: TRANSMISSION SHIFTING HARD FORM 1ST TO 2ND. DEALER REPLACED TRANSMISSION ASSEMBLY. NEW TRANSMISSION SHIFTED HARD. DEALER REPROGRAMMED TRUCK. ONE WEEK LATER,
ODI ID: 707052 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Thursday, January 28, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: SEVERE VIBRATIONS AT SPEEDS OF 65 AND UP, HOLE TRUCK SHACKS,DEALER BLAMING GOODYEAR TIRES, THIS VEHICLE HAS HAD 3SETS OF GOODYEAR TIRES AND A SET OF DUNLOP TIRE
ODI ID: 707302 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 08, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: SINCE THE FIRST WEEK OF DELIVERY THIS TRUCK HAS HAD STEERING VIBRATION AT HIGH SPEED. THE TRUCK TRACKS STRAIT BUT WHEN IT ENCOUNTERS ROUGH ROAD SURFACE THE VIBR
ODI ID: 707484 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Thursday, April 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION:SINGLE AXLE:REAR Summary: CHASIS / REAR MAIN-HAS AND DOES HAVE A LOUD KLUNKING NOISE ON TAKE OFF AND SLOW ACCELERATION.I HAVE TAKEN IT (THE TRUCK) TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR REPAIR WHICH DID
ODI ID: 707484 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Thursday, April 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:INSTRUMENT PANEL:CLUSTER MODULE Summary: CHASIS / REAR MAIN-HAS AND DOES HAVE A LOUD KLUNKING NOISE ON TAKE OFF AND SLOW ACCELERATION.I HAVE TAKEN IT (THE TRUCK) TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR REPAIR WHICH DID
ODI ID: 707500 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, April 19, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: UPON REACHING CRUISING SPEED (65 AND ABOVE) THE TRUCK HAS SIGNIFICANT VIBRATION IN SEATS AND FLOORBOARD
ODI ID: 707500 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, April 19, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: UPON REACHING CRUISING SPEED (65 AND ABOVE) THE TRUCK HAS SIGNIFICANT VIBRATION IN SEATS AND FLOORBOARD. *AK
ODI ID: 707751 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: I HAVE A VIBRATION AT SPEEDS OF 60-70 MPH AND THE STEERING WHEEL JUMPS WHEN I HIT EVEN SMALL BUMPS ON THE ROAD. I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE DEALERSHIP 4 TIMES HAVE
ODI ID: 708118 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: I HAVE HAD MY VEHICLE SINCE NOVEMBER OF 98. APPROXIMATELY 2 WEEKS AFTER I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE, I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE BACK TO SUPREME CHEVROLET FOR A VIBRATIO
ODI ID: 708194 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: STEERING:GEAR:RACK AND PINION Summary: THE VEHICLE VIBRATES AT AND AFTER 65 MPH, THE STEERING WHEEL SHIMMIES AND SHAKES. HAVE TAKEN TO DEALER ON TWO SEPERATE DATES FOR REPAIR. WAS TOLD CAUSE UNKNOW
ODI ID: 708194 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM Summary: THE VEHICLE VIBRATES AT AND AFTER 65 MPH, THE STEERING WHEEL SHIMMIES AND SHAKES. HAVE TAKEN TO DEALER ON TWO SEPERATE DATES FOR REPAIR. WAS TOLD CAUSE UNKNOW
ODI ID: 708206 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, February 05, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: SUSPENSION Summary: SHAKES BETWEEN 60-70MPH ON FREEWAY. DEALER HAS REPLACED TIRES TWICE, FRONT WHEEL HUBS REPLACED, AND SHACKLES ON REAR LEAF SPRINGS TO ELIMINATE SHAKING, NO SUC I'd like to buy the my2000 Silverado but must wonder. I'm trying to justify a purchase. Any ideas ?
From The NHTSA
ODI ID: Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALLED AS O
ODI ID: 544286 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER Summary: INFORMATION ON ALL NEW LIGHT TRUCKS MODEL YEAR 1999 MUST HAVE DUAL AIR BAGS, TRUCK IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH A PASSENGER SIDE AIR BAG.
ODI ID: 544286 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:INSTRUMENT PANEL:OTHER PART Summary: POSITION OF THE ASHTRAY IN FRONT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO USE ASHTRAY IF THE CUPHOLDER IS EXTENDED AND UNSAFE IF IT IS NOT.
ODI ID: 544762 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EMERGENCY PARKING BRAKE Summary: PARKING BRAKE POTRUDES BY DESIGN CAUSING DRIVERS PANTS LEG TO GET CAUGHT AND TO ALMOST FALL.
ODI ID: 545155 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM Summary: COMPUTERIZED ENGINE DESIGN DOES NOT INCLUDE MONITORING ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE FOR APPROPRIATE CYCLIC FUNCTION AND INDICATING PROPER THERMOSTAT PROTECTION, P
ODI ID: 547542 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALL AS O
ODI ID: 701046 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, November 01, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: STEERING:GEAR:RACK AND PINION Summary: THE 1999 CHEV. SILVERADO WITH RACK AND PINION HAS MANY PROBLEMS AND G-M IS TRYING TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG. FOR VERIFICATION OF THE PROBLEM C
ODI ID: 702261 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, December 28, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: STEERING:WHEEL AND COLUMN Summary: STEERING WHEEL BEGINS SHAKING AT 60MPH. SHAKING INCREASES WITH SPEED.
ODI ID: 702433 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Thursday, December 31, 1998 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: TIRES Summary: VIBRATION AT VARIOUS SPEEDS . SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT TRACTION ON WET PAVEMENT . BEEN TO 3 DEALERS WITH NO SATISFACTION . LOST ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS WHILE TRYING T
ODI ID: 702539 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 15, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: FUEL:THROTTLE LINKAGES AND CONTROL Summary: ACCELERATOR LINKAGE STICKS AT IDLE SPEED. CAUSES PEDAL TO TRAVEL TOO FAR ONCE "UNSTUCK" HIGH POWER TAKE OFFS FROM STOPPED.
ODI ID: 704079 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: BRAKES:AIR:ANTILOCK SYSTEM Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD. CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704079 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD. CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704707 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: NON-VEHICLE LETTERS (ASSIGNED BY ODI ONLY) Summary: NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR THIS VECE
ODI ID: 708223 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, January 17, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: STEERING:GEAR BOX Summary: DATE OF PURCHASE: 10/14/1998. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED FIRST DAY OF PICK UP. KIGHTLINGER MOTORS PUT NEW PART ON THE NEXT WEEK. DECEMBER 28, 1998: TOOK TO
ODI ID: 708223 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, January 17, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM Summary: DATE OF PURCHASE: 10/14/1998. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED FIRST DAY OF PICK UP. KIGHTLINGER MOTORS PUT NEW PART ON THE NEXT WEEK. DECEMBER 28, 1998: TOOK TO
ODI ID: 708223 Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK Model: SILVERADO Year: 1999 Date of Failure: Sunday, January 17, 1999 Incident: No Fire: No Number of Injuries: 0 Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:DISC:ROTOR:DISC HUB Summary: DATE OF PURCHASE: 10/14/1998. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED FIRST DAY OF PICK UP. KIGHTLINGER MOTORS PUT NEW PART ON THE NEXT WEEK. DECEMBER 28, 1998: TOOK TO
Humm you must want to live in a perfect world it's the first year for this truck design and it does look like some have problems almost all 1st years do.
I also have a 1999 GMC truck and do not have any of these problems you just rattled through it's a 99 Extended cab 4x4 SLE Fully loaded. I can't say I have not taken it to the dealer because I have. My windshield light would come on with a full tank of washer fluid, it was a bad sensor, also needed an alignment at 2k miles, but I was aware of this since day 1, they wanted to let the truck settle first. go figure Just my .02 I love my truck and it's been great so far 3,500 miles now. I don’t know why people bicker so much Enjoy what you have and let other Enjoy what they have Thanks, Aaron
Quadman- I have a 99 Silverado-Z71¬LS with 2k miles on it, made in Canada and have had none of the problems enumerated in the above message.
If you have this many doubts about the vehicle, may I suggest that you consider one of the other brands as you will be waiting for the shoe to drop no matter how long you have the Chevy.
Not trying to be critical, but just pointing out a fact of life
I can say piston slap and I bet now there are tons of Ford owners who can also!! Ford also has left most of these people holding their package. I have been a Ford truck owner most of my 15 years of driving age. I had a 98 model that was the biggest piece I have ever driven and Ford was even less desireable because they were no help in fixing it.
Chevy aint perfect and I have had great customer service with Toyota, but for the best overall package, considering tow capacity, looks, roominess, smooth engine power characteristics, style, technology, you name it, Chevy/GMC has the competition beat hands down.
I did have the detonation problem after 2k miles, but easily rectified the problem with a Hypertech 160 degree thermostat and PPIII programmer. I have more torque, hp and plain fun driving than Fords 5.4l any day. The flat torque curve is much better for overall towing capacity also. It may not have as much in the very low end as Ford when stock, but it has more deliverable torque over the entire range which includes the highway. The Ford I had, you had to stand on the accelerator to get it to do anything. A volkswagon bug would be better equipped to pass on the highway.
Dodge? They look good, but many of my friends and acquaintences have indicated brake problems, transmission problems, anemic engine power in the gas fuel models, and very poor fuel economy. One friend of mine had to have 10 sets of brake pads put on his 96 Dodge Ram! That was just in 80k miles. I am sure he is coming up to have another set. Dodge never could figure it out. The guy is not hard on brakes either.
Anyway, thats just my input. Havn't owned any new model Dodges, but will stay clear until I hear good things. Probably won't be looking any time soon as I am pretty happy with my 99 Silverado. I have only had the one problem and yes it was one that Chevy hem hawed around with until I just fixed it myself, but looking at all the other problems people are having with the Ford and Dodge, I have the lesser of three evils and none of them have good customer service so I am sticking with the best product.
I have stopped complaining of poor customer service as that is the norm with all of them. I now focus on making sure I let the right people know when I get GOOD customer service. I don't know, call my optimistic, but I am hoping by praising the good service, it may catch on some day.
Have had nothing but good luck with all Fords I've owned. Dealers have always been great in fixing limited problems I have had (Check engine lights, howling front end that was diagnosed as wheel bearing seal and fixed.) Please don't try to sell anyone on the 700r G.M. tranny. I personally know a Blazer owner that has gone through 7 in his 91. Thank God his son just rolled it. I also know an electrician that works the oil fields in So. Cal. and they flat gave up on G.M. products because they could not keep a tranny in them for more than a year. Please lead me to any documentation that someone earlier posted on how much more reliable G.M. trannys are.
The only "documentation" is my extended family's real life experiences. My Dad has a 78 GMC 4X4 that has gone through 2 350 engines with over 200k miles on each of them before replacing. Neither engine ever had any major problems and was never rebuild prior to replacing, etc. Now that is not such a feat to achieve, but having the SAME transmission, never overhauled, and never replaced. That means over 400k miles on the same tranny. He lives on a cattle farm and hauls his cattle in a 40 ft. gooseneck trailer. I would say that is a strong transmission.
My brother in law is a horse and cattle farmer. He has a 88 1 ton Chevy with 454. He too hauls his horses and cattle long distances with a gooseneck trailer. He had over 250k miles on his 454 and rebuilt the engine. Didn't really "need" to but it was starting to lose a little compression and use about a quart of oil every 3k miles. He say's that the engine runs better now than it did new and yes he is STILL ON THE SAME TRANSMISSION.
I don't give a rip about the ratings of magazines and the like. They are all too bias. I ignored all the bad things I read on Fords for years. My real life experience of my brand new 98 Ford was that it was a piece of crap and Ford didn't care about their customers satisfaction. My family's real life experiences have always been good the GM products. Lots of care free miles.
I also have an acquaintence at work who had an AC compressor go out on his Tahoe, 15k miles after the warranty expired. GM split the cost of replacement because he had always been a GM customer, not at a commercial level, just a personal vehicle owner. I would die of heart failure if I ever saw that from Ford. Ford just doesn't care. None of them REALLY do, but so far my experience has been that GM is better about it than the other two.
Sorry about your bad luck with the Blazer. However, in ALL the makes, its possible to get a lemon. Maybe the problem wasn't with the tranny but something else causing too much strain on the tranny. Who knows.
Glad to hear you've had good luck. Not sure the 700r was around in 78 or ever behind a 454. I'm referring to the 4 speed auto. I have been known to be wrong once or twice. I believe the turbo 350 and 400 to have good reputations which is what I think was in the earlier truck. Does'nt the 454 run a heavier duty unit? 4100 I think? Just got back from Las Vegas GMC dealer to see what the hoopla was all about. Will admit they are some nice trucks. I swear to you my salesman said he was a mechanic before he moved into sales and knew of the stories of the 700r trans but he assured me the problems are fixed and there is even a trans temp guage to ease your/my mind. However the beefy trans is only available with the 6.0 in the 3/4 ton truck. I don't doubt your horror stories with your Ford dealer but I can tell you many from GM and Dodge also. My friend's GMC story was one of the worst. His truck was still under GM factory warranty and they told him he would have to pay for the tear down for them to decide if it would be covered. The Dodge dealer blamed all my friends problems on his 96 diesel front end on his 33 inch tires and would'nt cover anything on his suspension. I do believe there are good and bad dealers everywhere. I'm glad you are as happy with yours as I am with mine. Take care.
Was just reading through the last 23 responses and have to make a comment. I have had chev [87] and ford [96] and ford has bent over backward to make sure every thing was all right when it went back in for warrenty yes I had trouble with springs, tie rods, glow plug relay, hubs,wheel bng , but I feel the new streight front axle is going to help but now I am looking to buy just a 1/2 ton and don't know just what to do. chev is noisey ford is smaller dodge int.looks cheap.
You're incorrect. The Ford "LOOKS" bigger from a body height standpoint, but if you look inside, the Ford is "MUCH SMALLER". As far as the body height, it is harder to climb into the Ford and there is only 1/2" more actual ground clearance on the Ford. Big deal.
I agree with you that the Dodge interior could use some help, but so could Ford. I have been a Ford owner for 15 years. The 98 Ford I had left a very bad impression on me. Never again. Maybe the Powerstroke if I ever need that much, but by then, the Chevy/Isuzu diesel will by far kick the Fords butt.
How is he incorrect? He said the Ford was smaller on the inside. When I checked out the GM products I could'nt tell the front seat difference, the rear area of the extended cab was obviously larger on the GM. One side note and it may be I'm the only one that noticed but the GM trucks had weird front passenger floors. My feet were never level toward the center of the truck. And with a clean sheet of paper you'd think GM could have finally hidden that heater core fan assembly up under the dash so you can't see it or kick it. Finally for what ever it's worth all the magazines always rate Ford's interior and fit and finish above all except the Japanese. See ya,
zbad71, I must say: You are clueless. First off, I bet you have NOT owned a Ford for 15 years to make such a stupid claim that an untested Isuzu engine will beat the navistar. Who are we fooling???? I have owned over 70 trucks during the past 15 years and I challenge your assertions. You sound like a guy my age who has owned a whopping 3 trucks and believe that makes you an expert.
Whatever. Your post tells what kind of person you are. Your confidence and self worth must lie behind your loyalty to the truck make you drive. You are probably "Director of Sanitation" because it sounds important, but actually just a garbage collector.
I could care less what you think. I get a new truck about every 2 years. I never claimed to be a truck expert, but I do know that the Ford light duty trucks suck and the Ford customer service is even worse.
As far as the ISUZU engine, If YOU had a clue, you would know that the ISUZU sells more diesel engines than any diesel manufacturer and they have the best rating of any diesel manufacturer, even CAT.
Do your research, you little, little, petty of a piece of turd. Of course, you would have to have more than a 6th grade education to know where to start. Maybe you could ask a neighbor kid to help you.
Your post is typical of a Ford puke. You hide behind your truck make, because aside from that, you're just a plain loser.
Dudes, Take a chill pill. Both of you have valid points. I don't know anything about Isuzu but the Navistar is a proven commodity and during all the arguing I've never heard anybody say how great the GM diesel is. So they'd better do something. The GM 6.0 rules right now. I'm just hoping the increase to the Ford V10 helps it catch up. And Z we all know what a terrible time you had at your Ford dealer but you sound smart enough(except when you start throwing insults)to realize that Ford couldn't possibly lead in sales year in and year out if all dealers were like yours. While I like Fords better I know right now(99)GM has the gas motors. Ford and Dodge are close in the diesels but for me personally it would take over a 100 thousand miles to come out ahead with a diesel. I'm just hoping the Ford V10 asserts itself. 310 HP and 430 pounds of torque.Now both of you take a time out and come out and play when you can behave yourselves.
You are right. I just fell to Rocles level by retaliation.
I don't agree with you about the current Chevy diesels though. Chevy's diesesls have been terrible since they were first introduced. Ford has the run on the diesel as far as I am concerned, even with the respected Cummins Dodge diesel. However, knowing the history of reliability and performance of the ISUZU diesels and knowing they are the #1 selling diesel engine, even over CAT and some other well knowns, the Chevy venture with ISUZU will launch the best diesel truck than anything out there today. Then Chevy will have the best total line up of trucks available.
By the way, the 6.0l gas Chevy truck will run circles around Fords V10. That V10 is a joke. My Dad has a 78 Chevy with 350. As old as it is, it gives that brand new V10 he has a run for its money. He still likes the Ford, but he mainly bought it for his wife to drive and they don't use it for real work. (Waste of money if you ask me). It has been proven many times that the V10 just doesn't have any benefits over the V8 engine. Doesn't give much if any power benefit and is terrible in fuel economy.
As far as Ford customer service. Well, first hand experiences is all I can go by. I never had to deal with Ford's customer service in the 15 years I owned their trucks because actually the Ford trucks have been very good and reliable trucks until 97 when they junked the truck line with the new Triton and weaker transmissions. After buying one of the worthless Triton trucks, I had to start dealing with the Ford customer service and man, was that a lesson learned. Never again Ford.
Rocles must have been having a bad day when he responded to my post. "HE MUST HAVE DRIVEN A FORD......LATELY"!
Mr. Z-BAD-71, Oh yeah, you're still clueless. Sanitation? Nice try; what,pray you, do you actually do with your trucks? Z-BAD-71? Since you like to point out that Isuzu sells the most diesels and therefore are "kings" of the engine world---do you take the same position on the number one seller of light-duty trucks??? BTW: answer is Ford. "I never claimed to be a truck expert." Sure....Then you ramble on about Isuzu greatness over CAT! "I buy a truck every two years"---Sure, you mean you LEASE them because their primary function is passenger transportation, I suspect. "Yu hide behind the loyalty of the truck you buy"---HUH? I own all three slackjaw! I own Chevys, Dodges and Fords. I simply responded to your unfounded claims that the navistar was not a good engine. It seems your mouth runs as much as your own loyalty........
PS: Sorry about the clueless remark---I didn't think it would hurt you so much. I'll stay cleaner in the future.
I never said anything bad or good about the Navistar. Could care less.
I have work trucks I own for hauling my horses and cattle. I don't see what difference that makes.
You are correct. My Z71 is a daily driver to my "cushy office job" where I make a six figure salary and don't need to drive my 1 ton trucks. I gave up the roofing and concrete business a long time ago. Make more money and make it a lot easier by using my education. Yes, I lease my Z71 BECAUSE I get a new truck every 2 or 3 years. Anyone who gets a new truck that often and DOESN'T LEASE is a financial idiot. If you own a business, you should look into leasing also. Not only is it cheaper, but for a business owner, you get better tax write-offs.
I could care less if you "stay cleaner in the future" or not. You didn't hurt me in the least. I realize you are just a hating life little hot head probably derived from the sun frying your brain or from laboring over hot roofing tar. Gee, I wish I could be like you and use all those big manly tools and get my truck all dirty so I can say I am the only one in the whole world that really has a "need" for a truck. Gee, then I could really "try" and impress people on Edmunds Town Hall into thinking I'm more than just a laborer.
No. I am not that way at all. Just playing your own game. YOU seem to be the one who TRIES to belittle others with your "WORK" trucks. No one else seems to qualify as needing a truck just because we don't work them in some construction site.
I too spent my time in the Corps and then got my education. Helicopter Crewchief. Seen combat. Paid my dues. No free rides.
Your company may be a 16 million operation, but how much of that do you actually get to spend? Probably not much. How many hours do you have to put in to make what little you have to spend? Sounds to me like you need to go back to being a laborer again. The stress of running a company is reflected in your attitude and makes those you come in contact with hate you. That's it, isn't it? You carry a chip on your shoulder because you have no friends.
I don't gloat my salary any more than you try and make yourself out to be Mr. Macho BIG WORK TRUCK owner and then belittle those who don't use their trucks the same as you do. All anyone has to do is read your moronic posts responding to Dave40 and some other topics such as this one. You spouted off the handle in your typical hot headed fashion out of nowhere. Nobody yanked your redneck chain.
You seem to be the person who is miserable with your own life so you try make everyone around you miserable also.
This is my last post in response to your spewing sewer hole.
Get a life, you loser. You are probably still suffering emotional scars from all the blanket parties you got back in the Corps.
That's right-I use my truck. Does it make me macho? Cool. Blanket parties? What would a helicopter weenie know of those?? Crewchief?? Is that you handle situation? Throw out a tirade and then go home?? Yeah, you sound like a hell of a leader. I love how you proved my point though, about salary and money. You ramble on like a buffoon about wondering about my cash-flow. Once again shallow man--who cares?? In your world-money is king but you will die a man without class and dignity. Gee- shallow man who calls himself-Z-BAD-71, are you concerned about how much I work? How un-shallow like! I love the dave40 remark as well. Made me laugh because it showed how much of a LITTLE GIRL YOU REALLY ARE. Dave40 is a big GM fan so I would gather that you disapprove of my posts to him because I won't fawn over Chevy like him. Friends? Wow! Now you can see my life through a computer as well!!! You're correct-let's end this now. Go slobbering back to the all-men site you were at before and leave. I think there is a site here for you---holdup!!--Z-BAD--it's called the "women" site. Maybe there you won't get harassed by us "redneck" types.
What a "LA HOOOO ZA HER". Ha ha ha ha! You were probably one of those "contract corporals" that the Corps never reaped the benefits of.
Go drive one of your big bad F-junk whatever's. It seems to be what gives you a stiffy. Must be why you like working construction so much. All those big "muscled" men to get your rocks off on.
Thaaaaaaat's it. Now I get it. No wonder you like BIG work trucks and "BIG Muscled" men at the construction sites. You do the circle jerks for them all over lunch and the truck gives you plenty of room to get greased without getting knee burns. LOL! LOL!
Check out #615. The list keeps growing everyday. Like I've been saying all along there are no perfect vehicles.Except my and Rocles Fords.(Just kidding) Hey badz and Roc whose dad can beat up the others dad?
Since you only lease trucks. What makes you think GM is so great. It takes more than 2years of getting groceries to find out what a vehicle is made of.
Well, if it can't haul groceries over two years of driving without being a service shop nightmare, I think common sense would normally prevail here.
Re-read your own statement here. Did you really mean to post this?
I drove a brand new 98 model Ford for 4 MONTHS before trading for the Silverado. In 4 months I had.....
1. Power Steering problems (bad pitman arm and steering rack. 2. Transfer case and Transmission grind, which was never fixed. 3. Twitchy steering (Acted like the tires barely made contact with the road. Steering also had way too much play, even after the new rack and pitman arm were replaced. 4.Truck was underpowered. Could not pull itself out of a pothole without standing on the gas, not to mention trying to maintain highway speeds in a headwind or going up a hill without any load behind it or in it at all. Gutless! 5. Terrible customer service support. From more than one dealer and also the Ford Zone "so-called" Rep. 6. AT BEST, only 15 mpg fuel economy. Probably because my foot had to always be in it to get anywhere or pull anything 7. Engine started the piston slap right before I got rid of it.
What a nightmare! I am glad I didn't need it for doing real work or I would have been in worse condition. If a truck aint worth a crap to pull its own weight without straining itself and without having major problems in just 4 MONTHS, "why would I want to keep it for any real length of time"?
If you buy Ford, YOU BETTER LEASE or be stuck with a real problem.
Seems as if you have had every conceivable problem wrong with that 98 Ford. If true, it makes me feel warm inside thinking of you having a hissy-fit at the dealer's office. I can see it now: "I make a six-figure salary!!! Fix my problem!!" Then after hearing of piston-slap on the internet: "I think I heard a piston-slap!! I make six-figures!!! Fix my problem! WHAAAAAAAA!!" Notice no bashing of gays or marines in my diatribe? You are a disgrace. I challenge your "apparent" ownership of a Ford. How long have you called yourself-Z-Bad-71??? True colors always bleed. Z-BADDDDDDD! How tough! Z-BAD! BAD! BADDDDDDD!
Hey, if true--good. Get into that Chevy and Z-BADDDD-OFF.
The twist of this issue is that I own all three brands of trucks and each have their pros and cons. My question of your knowledge of navistar versus Isuzu diesels started your crying. I have had many bad expierences with Chevys but I don't call myself Blueoval or Rammer(whoops-already taken!). Z-BADDDDD. Oh man. How tough.
Hey "circle jerk boy". Shouldn't you be "managing" all those muscle men that work for you? How DO YOU find the time to serve your men and annoy people at this site too?
I have read all your posts in other threads and I am right. NOBODY LIKES YOU AND NOBODY WANTS YOU HERE. It is evident from everyone elses responses to your hot head "know it all posts". YOU ADD NO VALUE TO THIS SITE AT ALL. Just another evidence of your meaningless existence.
You are an annoying little little fly. Why do you keep showing up here just to make people further dispise you? Get lost. Shoo Shoo Shoo fly. Spread your garbage elsewhere. Nobody is interested in what you have to say.
NEWSFLASH!!!!!! Rocles and zbad are the same schizophrenic person. It all started when his dad bought a DeSoto pick up and all his friends had G.M. and Fords. Poor guy gave his heartfelt loyalty to that old DeSoto and then they went under and he felt humiliated for backing them. So buy both supporting and knocking Fords and Chevys and fighting with himself over the net it alleviates all those bad childhood memories. It of course is much deeper then this quick synopsis but if you need to know more it's $250 an hour.
That is what it sounds like. I usually don't get involved with this nonsense, but hot head jerk boy was so gutless that he started shooting in the back. I responded to a post giving my personal opinion and experience with Fords and the guy went mental saying I slammed the "Navistar" engine. I have no idea where this idiot came up with this. I never said anything about the Navistar engine, good or bad. Read the posts. You will see this guy is just unstable. He probably didn't "get out" of the Corps. He was probably "kicked out" of the Corps for being a mental. From reading all the other posts in Town Hall by this guy, this guy has annoyed quite a few people.
Rocles could use some therapy. With his 16 million dollar a year business and having all those big muscular work trucks, I am sure he can afford $250.00 an hour for some good therapy or prozac. Could you help him....PLEASE!
Hey "six-figure" girl named Z-BADDDD, What kind of chopper were you in charge of? What do you do for a living making that "six-figure" salary? Why do you have such a potty mouth? Read the posts? Sure--I called you "clueless" for spouting off information that was unsupported. Have I irritated others? So what! I have also gathered many supporters as well-it's called having an opinion. I irritated other clowns like you. You win the insult contest. However if the subject was class- you lose. Crewchief? What rank? Where were you stationed for your "crewchief" assignment? Any answer would be appreciated without your whiny, low-brow retorts.
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Here in Georgia, for average drivers, that might mean $150 - $200 or so a year less on gas expense. The total cost (interest, depreciation, insurance, fuel, maintenance, taxes, etc) of owning one of these guys runs up to roughly $6500 a year, depending on how long you keep it.
It's a factor, sure, but one I'd rank slightly behind cup holders or vanity mirror placement.
My Ram, now.....that's another story.
Most Fords are plain-jane looking, but it's hard to beat a Flareside 4x4 with beefy tires and increased offset on the wheels.
Now, if they can only put the Ram's seats, steering ratio, and interior in the F-150.....or maybe the Ford's refinement, handling and paint quality in a Ram, toss in a chevy engine......
But I follow your math. Probably not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
Greg Hoppes
What I am making my decision on is: interior room, power, gas mileage, brakes, and 4wd systems. If you do the research, you'll see that GMC/Chevy wins on all accounts. I see that the Ford and Dodge are somewhat less $ - but you're getting slightly more. Also as many people have a GM card rebate account that makes the price more equal.
Some test-drive comments...
The Toyota Tundra: Hopefully it will grow up some day and become a real truck...
The Dodge Ram 1500: Although cool-looking, didn't have good rear seat room (even for my wife!). It also shifted hard and had a very noisy interior. The fan noise alone was deafening -- even on low! And yes, gas mileage is important. In California we're paying 20-40 cents more per gallon than the rest of the country!
The Ford F-150: Nice truck. Smooth, powerful. Definitely a close 2nd. It does feel considerably smaller inside, and has less back seat room. And, I'm sorry, but it's just too swoopy.
Jeff
I took delivery today of a 2000 Silverado LS extracab with the 5.3. Very pleased with this purchase, I'm hoping time will prove it a good purchase.
First off, I don't think I would be disappointed owning any of the big three trucks. I even (briefly) considered the Tundra, but dealers around here are going full MSRP plus dealer installed garbage, and I'm sorry Toyota (I'm a toyota fan too) if you're gonna build a full size truck, step one is to make it full size! I did test drive the Tundra, and its got a great hi-tech motor and a very refined ride. Watch this space, I think they'll get this one right.....
I've got friends who love their Rams, but I don't get the warm fuzzies about the reliability factor there, that aside, I liked the truck pretty well.
Ford vs Chevy was a very very tough call. I liked the F150 quite a bit, and could very easily live with that truck, its got a lot of going for it: ride quality, fit and finish, etc. But for me, the Silverado edged it out slightly for what I want out of a truck: elegant styling, lots of room, clean well thought out interior, excellent brakes and wow this can't be a truck handling, and the cherry on top? the new 5.3 motor is a gem! smooth and powerful and fairly economical, its just a great combination in my eyes.
The competition in this segment is producing some great machines. I do love this truck so far, I hope it hangs tough for me.
Will report back with more impressions as I get some miles on ..... I have enjoyed reading the posts here, very helpful in the decision making process.....
From The NHTSA
ODI ID:
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS
Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO
7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE
PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALLED AS O
ODI ID: 544286
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR
BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
Summary: INFORMATION ON ALL NEW LIGHT TRUCKS MODEL YEAR 1999
MUST HAVE DUAL AIR BAGS, TRUCK IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH A PASSENGER
SIDE AIR BAG.
ODI ID: 544286
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:INSTRUMENT PANEL:OTHER PART
Summary: POSITION OF THE ASHTRAY IN FRONT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO
USE ASHTRAY IF THE CUPHOLDER IS EXTENDED AND UNSAFE IF IT IS NOT.
ODI ID: 544762
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EMERGENCY PARKING BRAKE
Summary: PARKING BRAKE POTRUDES BY DESIGN CAUSING DRIVERS PANTS
LEG TO GET CAUGHT AND TO ALMOST FALL.
ODI ID: 545155
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM
Summary: COMPUTERIZED ENGINE DESIGN DOES NOT INCLUDE MONITORING
ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE FOR APPROPRIATE CYCLIC FUNCTION AND
INDICATING PROPER THERMOSTAT PROTECTION, P
ODI ID: 547542
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS
Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO
7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE
PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALL AS O
ODI ID: 701046
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, November 01, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: STEERING:GEAR:RACK AND PINION
Summary: THE 1999 CHEV. SILVERADO WITH RACK AND PINION HAS MANY
PROBLEMS AND G-M IS TRYING TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG. FOR
VERIFICATION OF THE PROBLEM C
ODI ID: 702261
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, December 28, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: STEERING:WHEEL AND COLUMN
Summary: STEERING WHEEL BEGINS SHAKING AT 60MPH. SHAKING INCREASES
WITH SPEED.
ODI ID: 702433
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Thursday, December 31, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: TIRES
Summary: VIBRATION AT VARIOUS SPEEDS . SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT
TRACTION ON WET PAVEMENT . BEEN TO 3 DEALERS WITH NO SATISFACTION .
LOST ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS WHILE TRYING T
ODI ID: 702539
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 15, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: FUEL:THROTTLE LINKAGES AND CONTROL
Summary: ACCELERATOR LINKAGE STICKS AT IDLE SPEED. CAUSES PEDAL TO
TRAVEL TOO FAR ONCE "UNSTUCK" HIGH POWER TAKE OFFS FROM STOPPED.
ODI ID: 704079
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: BRAKES:AIR:ANTILOCK SYSTEM
Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING
AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD.
CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704079
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC
Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING
AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD.
CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704707
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: NON-VEHICLE LETTERS (ASSIGNED BY ODI ONLY)
Summary: NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR THIS VEHICLE. *AK
ODI ID: 704973
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, March 26, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: VISUAL SYSTEMS:GLASS:WINDOW:TAILGATE AND BACK DOOR
Summary: THE LEFT REAR WING GLASS/EXTENDED CAB LEW OUT -WINDOW
WAS CLOSED /DID NOT STRIKE ANYTHING, BUT WENT ACROSS THE OPPOSITE
LANE OF TRAFFIC AND LANDED ON THE SIDE
ODI ID: 705301
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Thursday, April 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM
Summary: 1ST: TURNING ON A SHARP BEND AT TEN MILES AN HOUR, BRAKES
WERE APPLIED (LIGHTLY) AND VEHICLE BEGAN TO FISHTAIL. 2ND: VEHICLE
WAS TRAVELING AT APPROXIMATELY 4
ODI ID: 705380
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: TRUCK HAS A VIBRATION BETWEEN 1100 &1500 RPM WHEN GOING
UP HILLS IT IS BAD. WAS TOLD BY THE DEALER NO FIX, BUT ALL NEW
SILVERADOS DOING IT. *AK
ODI ID: 705644
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Wednesday, April 14, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EQUIPMENT:ELECTRIC POWER ACCESSORIES:SEATS
Summary: THE POWER SEATS CLUNK ALL THE TIME EVERYDAY AND THE
STEERING WHEEL VIBRATES/GRINDS
ODI ID: 705819
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, October 05, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT
Summary: OTHER EQUIPMENT; SEVERE VIBRATION THAT FEELS LIKE BODY
FLEXES BETWEEN 65-75MPH. I HAVE SLOWED AND PULLED OFF ONTO THE
SHOULD FEARING PERSONAL SAFTEY. I HAVE B
ODI ID: 705819
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, October 05, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC
Summary: OTHER EQUIPMENT; SEVERE VIBRATION THAT FEELS LIKE BODY
FLEXES BETWEEN 65-75MPH. I HAVE SLOWED AND PULLED OFF ONTO THE
SHOULD FEARING PERSONAL SAFTEY. I HAVE B
ODI ID: 705972
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, March 07, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT
Summary: I TOOK DELIVERY OF VEHICLE ON 3-1-99. NOTICED FRONT END
VIBRATION AT 65 MPH. TOOK VEHICLE BACK TO DEALER. I WAS TOLD IT WAS
A GOODYEAR TIRE PROBLEM. THEY REPLAC
ODI ID: 705972
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, March 07, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:DRIVESHAFT
Summary: I TOOK DELIVERY OF VEHICLE ON 3-1-99. NOTICED FRONT END
VIBRATION AT 65 MPH. TOOK VEHICLE BACK TO DEALER. I WAS TOLD IT WAS
A GOODYEAR TIRE PROBLEM. THEY REPLAC
ODI ID: 706200
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Wednesday, February 17, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION:INDEPENDENT FRONT
Summary: NO SUMMARY
ODI ID: 706913
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, February 05, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC
Summary: TRANSMISSION SHIFTING HARD FORM 1ST TO 2ND. DEALER
REPLACED TRANSMISSION ASSEMBLY. NEW TRANSMISSION SHIFTED HARD.
DEALER REPROGRAMMED TRUCK. ONE WEEK LATER,
ODI ID: 707052
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Thursday, January 28, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: SEVERE VIBRATIONS AT SPEEDS OF 65 AND UP, HOLE TRUCK
SHACKS,DEALER BLAMING GOODYEAR TIRES, THIS VEHICLE HAS HAD 3SETS
OF GOODYEAR TIRES AND A SET OF DUNLOP TIRE
ODI ID: 707302
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 08, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: SINCE THE FIRST WEEK OF DELIVERY THIS TRUCK HAS HAD
STEERING VIBRATION AT HIGH SPEED. THE TRUCK TRACKS STRAIT BUT WHEN
IT ENCOUNTERS ROUGH ROAD SURFACE THE VIBR
ODI ID: 707484
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Thursday, April 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION:SINGLE AXLE:REAR
Summary: CHASIS / REAR MAIN-HAS AND DOES HAVE A LOUD KLUNKING
NOISE ON TAKE OFF AND SLOW ACCELERATION.I HAVE TAKEN IT (THE
TRUCK) TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR REPAIR WHICH DID
ODI ID: 707484
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Thursday, April 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:INSTRUMENT PANEL:CLUSTER MODULE
Summary: CHASIS / REAR MAIN-HAS AND DOES HAVE A LOUD KLUNKING
NOISE ON TAKE OFF AND SLOW ACCELERATION.I HAVE TAKEN IT (THE
TRUCK) TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR REPAIR WHICH DID
ODI ID: 707500
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, April 19, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: UPON REACHING CRUISING SPEED (65 AND ABOVE) THE TRUCK HAS
SIGNIFICANT VIBRATION IN SEATS AND FLOORBOARD
ODI ID: 707500
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, April 19, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: UPON REACHING CRUISING SPEED (65 AND ABOVE) THE TRUCK HAS
SIGNIFICANT VIBRATION IN SEATS AND FLOORBOARD. *AK
ODI ID: 707751
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: I HAVE A VIBRATION AT SPEEDS OF 60-70 MPH AND THE STEERING
WHEEL JUMPS WHEN I HIT EVEN SMALL BUMPS ON THE ROAD. I HAVE TAKEN
IT TO THE DEALERSHIP 4 TIMES HAVE
ODI ID: 708118
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Tuesday, December 22, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: I HAVE HAD MY VEHICLE SINCE NOVEMBER OF 98. APPROXIMATELY
2 WEEKS AFTER I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE, I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE BACK
TO SUPREME CHEVROLET FOR A VIBRATIO
ODI ID: 708194
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: STEERING:GEAR:RACK AND PINION
Summary: THE VEHICLE VIBRATES AT AND AFTER 65 MPH, THE STEERING
WHEEL SHIMMIES AND SHAKES. HAVE TAKEN TO DEALER ON TWO SEPERATE
DATES FOR REPAIR. WAS TOLD CAUSE UNKNOW
ODI ID: 708194
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM
Summary: THE VEHICLE VIBRATES AT AND AFTER 65 MPH, THE STEERING
WHEEL SHIMMIES AND SHAKES. HAVE TAKEN TO DEALER ON TWO SEPERATE
DATES FOR REPAIR. WAS TOLD CAUSE UNKNOW
ODI ID: 708206
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, February 05, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: SUSPENSION
Summary: SHAKES BETWEEN 60-70MPH ON FREEWAY. DEALER HAS REPLACED
TIRES TWICE, FRONT WHEEL HUBS REPLACED, AND SHACKLES ON REAR LEAF
SPRINGS TO ELIMINATE SHAKING, NO SUC
I'd like to buy the my2000 Silverado but must wonder. I'm trying to justify a purchase. Any ideas ?
From The NHTSA
ODI ID:
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS
Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO
7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE
PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALLED AS O
ODI ID: 544286
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR
BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
Summary: INFORMATION ON ALL NEW LIGHT TRUCKS MODEL YEAR 1999
MUST HAVE DUAL AIR BAGS, TRUCK IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH A PASSENGER
SIDE AIR BAG.
ODI ID: 544286
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:INSTRUMENT PANEL:OTHER PART
Summary: POSITION OF THE ASHTRAY IN FRONT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO
USE ASHTRAY IF THE CUPHOLDER IS EXTENDED AND UNSAFE IF IT IS NOT.
ODI ID: 544762
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EMERGENCY PARKING BRAKE
Summary: PARKING BRAKE POTRUDES BY DESIGN CAUSING DRIVERS PANTS
LEG TO GET CAUGHT AND TO ALMOST FALL.
ODI ID: 545155
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM
Summary: COMPUTERIZED ENGINE DESIGN DOES NOT INCLUDE MONITORING
ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE FOR APPROPRIATE CYCLIC FUNCTION AND
INDICATING PROPER THERMOSTAT PROTECTION, P
ODI ID: 547542
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure:
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: EQUIPMENT:LIFT:WHEEL/TOWING APPARATUS
Summary: UNDER RATED TOW PACKAGE. TRUCK RATED FOR TOWING UP TO
7200 LBS. TOW PACKAGE RATED FOR TOWING UP TO 5000 LBS. TOW PACKAGE
PURCHASED FROM DEALER & INSTALL AS O
ODI ID: 701046
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, November 01, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: STEERING:GEAR:RACK AND PINION
Summary: THE 1999 CHEV. SILVERADO WITH RACK AND PINION HAS MANY
PROBLEMS AND G-M IS TRYING TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG. FOR
VERIFICATION OF THE PROBLEM C
ODI ID: 702261
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, December 28, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: STEERING:WHEEL AND COLUMN
Summary: STEERING WHEEL BEGINS SHAKING AT 60MPH. SHAKING INCREASES
WITH SPEED.
ODI ID: 702433
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Thursday, December 31, 1998
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: TIRES
Summary: VIBRATION AT VARIOUS SPEEDS . SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT
TRACTION ON WET PAVEMENT . BEEN TO 3 DEALERS WITH NO SATISFACTION .
LOST ALL PREVIOUS COMMENTS WHILE TRYING T
ODI ID: 702539
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 15, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: FUEL:THROTTLE LINKAGES AND CONTROL
Summary: ACCELERATOR LINKAGE STICKS AT IDLE SPEED. CAUSES PEDAL TO
TRAVEL TOO FAR ONCE "UNSTUCK" HIGH POWER TAKE OFFS FROM STOPPED.
ODI ID: 704079
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: BRAKES:AIR:ANTILOCK SYSTEM
Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING
AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD.
CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704079
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Monday, February 22, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:TRANSMISSION:AUTOMATIC
Summary: SINCE DATE OF PURCHASE, TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN VIBRATING
AND CAUSING ENGINE TO FEEL LIKE IT IS UNDER STRESS/HEAVY LOAD.
CONTACTED DEALER AND ANOTHER CHEV. SERV.
ODI ID: 704707
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Friday, January 01, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: NON-VEHICLE LETTERS (ASSIGNED BY ODI ONLY)
Summary: NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR THIS VECE
ODI ID: 708223
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, January 17, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: STEERING:GEAR BOX
Summary: DATE OF PURCHASE: 10/14/1998. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED
FIRST DAY OF PICK UP. KIGHTLINGER MOTORS PUT NEW PART ON THE NEXT
WEEK. DECEMBER 28, 1998: TOOK TO
ODI ID: 708223
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, January 17, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM
Summary: DATE OF PURCHASE: 10/14/1998. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED
FIRST DAY OF PICK UP. KIGHTLINGER MOTORS PUT NEW PART ON THE NEXT
WEEK. DECEMBER 28, 1998: TOOK TO
ODI ID: 708223
Make: CHEVROLET TRUCK
Model: SILVERADO
Year: 1999
Date of Failure: Sunday, January 17, 1999
Incident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Component: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:DISC:ROTOR:DISC HUB
Summary: DATE OF PURCHASE: 10/14/1998. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED
FIRST DAY OF PICK UP. KIGHTLINGER MOTORS PUT NEW PART ON THE NEXT
WEEK. DECEMBER 28, 1998: TOOK TO
it's the first year for this truck design
and it does look like some have problems almost all 1st years do.
I also have a 1999 GMC truck and do not have any of these problems you just rattled through
it's a 99 Extended cab 4x4 SLE Fully loaded.
I can't say I have not taken it to the dealer because I have. My windshield light would come on with a full tank of washer fluid, it was a bad sensor, also needed an alignment at 2k miles, but I was aware of this since day 1, they wanted to let the truck settle first. go figure
Just my .02
I love my truck and it's been great so far 3,500 miles now.
I don’t know why people bicker so much
Enjoy what you have and let other Enjoy what they have
Thanks,
Aaron
If you have this many doubts about the vehicle, may I suggest that you consider one of the other brands as you will be waiting for the shoe to drop no matter how long you have the Chevy.
Not trying to be critical, but just pointing out a fact of life
Chevy aint perfect and I have had great customer service with Toyota, but for the best overall package, considering tow capacity, looks, roominess, smooth engine power characteristics, style, technology, you name it, Chevy/GMC has the competition beat hands down.
I did have the detonation problem after 2k miles, but easily rectified the problem with a Hypertech 160 degree thermostat and PPIII programmer. I have more torque, hp and plain fun driving than Fords 5.4l any day. The flat torque curve is much better for overall towing capacity also. It may not have as much in the very low end as Ford when stock, but it has more deliverable torque over the entire range which includes the highway. The Ford I had, you had to stand on the accelerator to get it to do anything. A volkswagon bug would be better equipped to pass on the highway.
Dodge? They look good, but many of my friends and acquaintences have indicated brake problems, transmission problems, anemic engine power in the gas fuel models, and very poor fuel economy. One friend of mine had to have 10 sets of brake pads put on his 96 Dodge Ram! That was just in 80k miles. I am sure he is coming up to have another set. Dodge never could figure it out. The guy is not hard on brakes either.
Anyway, thats just my input. Havn't owned any new model Dodges, but will stay clear until I hear good things. Probably won't be looking any time soon as I am pretty happy with my 99 Silverado.
I have only had the one problem and yes it was one that Chevy hem hawed around with until I just fixed it myself, but looking at all the other problems people are having with the Ford and Dodge, I have the lesser of three evils and none of them have good customer service so I am sticking with the best product.
I have stopped complaining of poor customer service as that is the norm with all of them. I now focus on making sure I let the right people know when I get GOOD customer service. I don't know, call my optimistic, but I am hoping by praising the good service, it may catch on some day.
Take care all.
My brother in law is a horse and cattle farmer. He has a 88 1 ton Chevy with 454. He too hauls his horses and cattle long distances with a gooseneck trailer. He had over 250k miles on his 454 and rebuilt the engine. Didn't really "need" to but it was starting to lose a little compression and use about a quart of oil every 3k miles. He say's that the engine runs better now than it did new and yes he is STILL ON THE SAME TRANSMISSION.
I don't give a rip about the ratings of magazines and the like. They are all too bias. I ignored all the bad things I read on Fords for years. My real life experience of my brand new 98 Ford was that it was a piece of crap and Ford didn't care about their customers satisfaction. My family's real life experiences have always been good the GM products. Lots of care free miles.
I also have an acquaintence at work who had an AC compressor go out on his Tahoe, 15k miles after the warranty expired. GM split the cost of replacement because he had always been a GM customer, not at a commercial level, just a personal vehicle owner. I would die of heart failure if I ever saw that from Ford. Ford just doesn't care. None of them REALLY do, but so far my experience has been that GM is better about it than the other two.
Sorry about your bad luck with the Blazer. However, in ALL the makes, its possible to get a lemon. Maybe the problem wasn't with the tranny but something else causing too much strain on the tranny. Who knows.
Take care.
Take care.
I agree with you that the Dodge interior could use some help, but so could Ford. I have been a Ford owner for 15 years. The 98 Ford I had left a very bad impression on me. Never again. Maybe the Powerstroke if I ever need that much, but by then, the Chevy/Isuzu diesel will by far kick the Fords butt.
Take care.
See ya,
I must say: You are clueless. First off, I bet you have NOT owned a Ford for 15 years to make such a stupid claim that an untested Isuzu engine will beat the navistar. Who are we fooling????
I have owned over 70 trucks during the past 15 years and I challenge your assertions.
You sound like a guy my age who has owned a whopping 3 trucks and believe that makes you an expert.
You are probably "Director of Sanitation" because it sounds important, but actually just a garbage collector.
I could care less what you think. I get a new truck about every 2 years. I never claimed to be a truck expert, but I do know that the Ford light duty trucks suck and the Ford customer service is even worse.
As far as the ISUZU engine, If YOU had a clue, you would know that the ISUZU sells more diesel engines than any diesel manufacturer and they have the best rating of any diesel manufacturer, even CAT.
Do your research, you little, little, petty of a piece of turd. Of course, you would have to have more than a 6th grade education to know where to start. Maybe you could ask a neighbor kid to help you.
Your post is typical of a Ford puke. You hide behind your truck make, because aside from that, you're just a plain loser.
Take off, hoser.
Take a chill pill. Both of you have valid points. I don't know anything about Isuzu but the Navistar is a proven commodity and during all the arguing I've never heard anybody say how great the GM diesel is. So they'd better do something. The GM 6.0 rules right now. I'm just hoping the increase to the Ford V10 helps it catch up. And Z we all know what a terrible time you had at your Ford dealer but you sound smart enough(except when you start throwing insults)to realize that Ford couldn't possibly lead in sales year in and year out if all dealers were like yours. While I like Fords better I know right now(99)GM has the gas motors. Ford and Dodge are close in the diesels but for me personally it would take over a 100 thousand miles to come out ahead with a diesel. I'm just hoping the Ford V10 asserts itself. 310 HP and 430 pounds of torque.Now both of you take a time out and come out and play when you can behave yourselves.
I don't agree with you about the current Chevy diesels though. Chevy's diesesls have been terrible since they were first introduced. Ford has the run on the diesel as far as I am concerned, even with the respected Cummins Dodge diesel. However, knowing the history of reliability and performance of the ISUZU diesels and knowing they are the #1 selling diesel engine, even over CAT and some other well knowns, the Chevy venture with ISUZU will launch the best diesel truck than anything out there today. Then Chevy will have the best total line up of trucks available.
By the way, the 6.0l gas Chevy truck will run circles around Fords V10. That V10 is a joke. My Dad has a 78 Chevy with 350. As old as it is, it gives that brand new V10 he has a run for its money. He still likes the Ford, but he mainly bought it for his wife to drive and they don't use it for real work. (Waste of money if you ask me).
It has been proven many times that the V10 just doesn't have any benefits over the V8 engine. Doesn't give much if any power benefit and is terrible in fuel economy.
As far as Ford customer service. Well, first hand experiences is all I can go by. I never had to deal with Ford's customer service in the 15 years I owned their trucks because actually the Ford trucks have been very good and reliable trucks until 97 when they junked the truck line with the new Triton and weaker transmissions. After buying one of the worthless Triton trucks, I had to start dealing with the Ford customer service and man, was that a lesson learned. Never again Ford.
Rocles must have been having a bad day when he responded to my post. "HE MUST HAVE DRIVEN A FORD......LATELY"!
Oh yeah, you're still clueless. Sanitation? Nice try; what,pray you, do you actually do with your trucks? Z-BAD-71?
Since you like to point out that Isuzu sells the most diesels and therefore are "kings" of the engine world---do you take the same position on the number one seller of light-duty trucks??? BTW: answer is Ford.
"I never claimed to be a truck expert." Sure....Then you ramble on about Isuzu greatness over CAT!
"I buy a truck every two years"---Sure, you mean you LEASE them because their primary function is passenger transportation, I suspect.
"Yu hide behind the loyalty of the truck you buy"---HUH? I own all three slackjaw! I own Chevys, Dodges and Fords. I simply responded to your unfounded claims that the navistar was not a good engine. It seems your mouth runs as much as your own loyalty........
PS: Sorry about the clueless remark---I didn't think it would hurt you so much. I'll stay cleaner in the future.
I have work trucks I own for hauling my horses and cattle. I don't see what difference that makes.
You are correct. My Z71 is a daily driver to my "cushy office job" where I make a six figure salary and don't need to drive my 1 ton trucks. I gave up the roofing and concrete business a long time ago. Make more money and make it a lot easier by using my education.
Yes, I lease my Z71 BECAUSE I get a new truck every 2 or 3 years. Anyone who gets a new truck that often and DOESN'T LEASE is a financial idiot.
If you own a business, you should look into leasing also. Not only is it cheaper, but for a business owner, you get better tax write-offs.
I could care less if you "stay cleaner in the future" or not. You didn't hurt me in the least. I realize you are just a hating life little hot head probably derived from the sun frying your brain or from laboring over hot roofing tar.
Gee, I wish I could be like you and use all those big manly tools and get my truck all dirty so I can say I am the only one in the whole world that really has a "need" for a truck. Gee, then I could really "try" and impress people on Edmunds Town Hall into thinking I'm more than just a laborer.
Shoo fly shoo!
own game. YOU seem to be the one who TRIES to
belittle others with your "WORK" trucks. No one
else seems to qualify as needing a truck just
because we don't work them in some construction
site.
I too spent my time in the Corps and then got my
education. Helicopter Crewchief. Seen combat.
Paid my dues. No free rides.
Your company may be a 16 million operation, but
how much of that do you actually get to spend?
Probably not much. How many hours do you have to
put in to make what little you have to spend?
Sounds to me like you need to go back to being a
laborer again. The stress of running a company is
reflected in your attitude and makes those you
come in contact with hate you. That's it, isn't it? You carry a chip on your shoulder because you have no friends.
I don't gloat my salary any more than you try and
make yourself out to be Mr. Macho BIG WORK TRUCK
owner and then belittle those who don't use their
trucks the same as you do. All anyone has to do is read your moronic posts responding to Dave40 and some other topics such as this one. You spouted off the handle in your typical hot headed fashion out of nowhere. Nobody yanked your redneck chain.
You seem to be the person who is miserable with
your own life so you try make everyone around you
miserable also.
This is my last post in response to your spewing sewer hole.
Get a life, you loser. You are probably still
suffering emotional scars from all the blanket
parties you got back in the Corps.
Semper Fi, you a..munch!
That's right-I use my truck. Does it make me macho? Cool.
Blanket parties? What would a helicopter weenie know of those?? Crewchief?? Is that you handle situation? Throw out a tirade and then go home?? Yeah, you sound like a hell of a leader.
I love how you proved my point though, about salary and money. You ramble on like a buffoon about wondering about my cash-flow. Once again shallow man--who cares?? In your world-money is king but you will die a man without class and dignity.
Gee- shallow man who calls himself-Z-BAD-71, are you concerned about how much I work? How un-shallow like!
I love the dave40 remark as well. Made me laugh because it showed how much of a LITTLE GIRL YOU REALLY ARE. Dave40 is a big GM fan so I would gather that you disapprove of my posts to him because I won't fawn over Chevy like him.
Friends? Wow! Now you can see my life through a computer as well!!! You're correct-let's end this now. Go slobbering back to the all-men site you were at before and leave.
I think there is a site here for you---holdup!!--Z-BAD--it's called the "women" site. Maybe there you won't get harassed by us "redneck" types.
LOL!
Come talk to doc.
Smoking lamp is out.
Sick Bay is open.
;-)
What a "LA HOOOO ZA HER". Ha ha ha ha!
You were probably one of those "contract corporals" that the Corps never reaped the benefits of.
Go drive one of your big bad F-junk whatever's. It seems to be what gives you a stiffy. Must be why you like working construction so much. All those big "muscled" men to get your rocks off on.
Thaaaaaaat's it. Now I get it. No wonder you like BIG work trucks and "BIG Muscled" men at the construction sites. You do the circle jerks for them all over lunch and the truck gives you plenty of room to get greased without getting knee burns. LOL! LOL!
Ha ha ha ha!
Whaaaat aaaaaaa looooooser!
what I got is pure entertainment, to hell with
TV,this is great ps I like Fords
Re-read your own statement here. Did you really mean to post this?
I drove a brand new 98 model Ford for 4 MONTHS before trading for the Silverado. In 4 months I had.....
1. Power Steering problems (bad pitman arm and steering rack.
2. Transfer case and Transmission grind, which was never fixed.
3. Twitchy steering (Acted like the tires barely made contact with the road. Steering also had way too much play, even after the new rack and pitman arm were replaced.
4.Truck was underpowered. Could not pull itself out of a pothole without standing on the gas, not to mention trying to maintain highway speeds in a headwind or going up a hill without any load behind it or in it at all. Gutless!
5. Terrible customer service support. From more than one dealer and also the Ford Zone "so-called"
Rep.
6. AT BEST, only 15 mpg fuel economy. Probably because my foot had to always be in it to get anywhere or pull anything
7. Engine started the piston slap right before I got rid of it.
What a nightmare! I am glad I didn't need it for doing real work or I would have been in worse condition. If a truck aint worth a crap to pull its own weight without straining itself and without having major problems in just 4 MONTHS, "why would I want to keep it for any real length of time"?
If you buy Ford, YOU BETTER LEASE or be stuck with a real problem.
if you guys can't ditch the "potty mouth" and comply with your User's Agreement, I WILL freeze and eliminate this topic!
Front Porch Philosopher
SUV, Pickups, & Aftermarket and Accessories Host
Seems as if you have had every conceivable problem wrong with that 98 Ford.
If true, it makes me feel warm inside thinking of you having a hissy-fit at the dealer's office. I can see it now: "I make a six-figure salary!!! Fix my problem!!" Then after hearing of piston-slap on the internet: "I think I heard a piston-slap!! I make six-figures!!! Fix my problem! WHAAAAAAAA!!"
Notice no bashing of gays or marines in my diatribe? You are a disgrace. I challenge your "apparent" ownership of a Ford. How long have you called yourself-Z-Bad-71??? True colors always bleed. Z-BADDDDDDD! How tough!
Z-BAD! BAD! BADDDDDDD!
Hey, if true--good. Get into that Chevy and Z-BADDDD-OFF.
The twist of this issue is that I own all three brands of trucks and each have their pros and cons. My question of your knowledge of navistar versus Isuzu diesels started your crying.
I have had many bad expierences with Chevys but I don't call myself Blueoval or Rammer(whoops-already taken!). Z-BADDDDD. Oh man. How tough.
I have read all your posts in other threads and I am right. NOBODY LIKES YOU AND NOBODY WANTS YOU HERE. It is evident from everyone elses responses to your hot head "know it all posts". YOU ADD NO VALUE TO THIS SITE AT ALL. Just another evidence of your meaningless existence.
You are an annoying little little fly. Why do you keep showing up here just to make people further dispise you? Get lost. Shoo Shoo Shoo fly. Spread your garbage elsewhere. Nobody is interested in what you have to say.
You guys are having to much fun..
Lets get back to the topic though..
Thanks,
Aaron
Rocles could use some therapy. With his 16 million dollar a year business and having all those big muscular work trucks, I am sure he can afford $250.00 an hour for some good therapy or prozac. Could you help him....PLEASE!
What kind of chopper were you in charge of? What do you do for a living making that "six-figure" salary? Why do you have such a potty mouth? Read the posts? Sure--I called you "clueless" for spouting off information that was unsupported.
Have I irritated others? So what! I have also gathered many supporters as well-it's called having an opinion. I irritated other clowns like you.
You win the insult contest. However if the subject was class- you lose. Crewchief? What rank? Where were you stationed for your "crewchief" assignment? Any answer would be appreciated without your whiny, low-brow retorts.
Crewchief?