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I've found plenty of room in most german cars. Passat has more room (even Jetta)
The TT had a surprising amount of room.
The A6 has a little more head room than the G35.
3series aren't bad, but I think it's about the same as the G35
E class isin't too bad (tho $'s)
The C70 S70 had pretty good room. Haven't driven the s60, but I would imagine it has pretty good room as well (S80 is also prety good).
If you like the G35 you could always get an aftermarket seat, not sure of the $'s for that...
Stacey
To put it in perspective, 26k is well equipped Altima and Maxima territory. They can't be building many base models for this very reason, so I am sure they are difficult to find.
The only other concern I have is a boring one - practicality. The seats dont fold down, only a tiny passthrough. I think this is a mistake, sport sedan or not. People do go to Home Depot! And despite what the press says, I think the trunk is TINY
Is there a roof rack accessory that can be taken on an off, if I have to carry big stuff?
http://www.thecarplace.com/03g35.htm
1. 60/40 Folding Rear Seat
2. Break away side view mirrors
3. Tachometer
4. Full sized Spare tire
5. Power windows
6. Power locks
Seriously, there's no excuse for not adding the convenience and utility of the fold down rear seat. Break away side view mirrors can save the customer a bunch of money, and cost very little to upgrade.
As for the trunk, you might be surprised what it will swallow. I have also carried things too big for the rear deck lid to close and actually used the cargo net to hold it down. Worked fine although I did throw a couple bungee straps in with the spare for future use.
PS I have a couple friends still driving SUV's that I can call on if I really have to make a Home Depot run. Can't say I miss my SUV at all.
Are you sure the vehicle you were looking at had premium package? Everything I have read says the sunroof is required with premium package. Has this changed? It would be great if you could get premium package and the extra head room.
Then again, I have a Dodge Durango for those other times...
Also, there IS a roof rack option. However, I don't know if it comes off easily.
Scott
The G35 is priced at $28.5K with leather. Whether you buy a fully loaded G35 for $36K or a G35 with leather for $28.5K, you get the same interior. If you want to bump up to wood trim, add another $500. What else can you ask for for less than $30K? If you want luxurious interior, go buy the ES300. If you want an "affordable" sports sedan with above average interior and high performance engine, get the G35.
If Infiniti really wanted luxurious interior to compete with Lexus, Audi, and Jag, they could have easily upgrade the interior with more luxury amenities. However, don't expect the starting MSRP to be $28.5K with leather. MSRP will probably start at $32K (which will make it less affordable for the intended buyers).
Keep in mind that you are getting a fully loaded G35 for less than the price of the 530i.
By the way, I am NOT impress with my friends 540i and M5 interiors. Yuck! Looks way too charcoil. It puts me to sleep. zzzzzz
The G35's trunk may be large, but it is NOT the largest in its class. The Jaguar X-TYPE has the largest trunk in its class at 16 cubic feet.
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hvan3- interiors
"The G35 is priced at $28.5K with leather. Whether you buy a fully loaded G35 for $36K or a G35 with leather for $28.5K, you get the same interior. If you want to bump up to wood trim, add another $500. What else can you ask for for less than $30K?...
...If Infiniti really wanted luxurious interior to compete with Lexus, Audi, and Jag, they could have easily upgrade the interior with more luxury amenities. However, don't expect the starting MSRP to be $28.5K with leather. MSRP will probably start at $32K (which will make it less affordable for the intended buyers)."
You get the same interior in the base model Jaguar X-TYPE as you do in the top-of-the-line model as well: Conolly leather and birds-eye maple dash and trim. The sport package gives gray-stained wood, and leather sport-style seats. So you can get wood and leather in a car, standard, for the X-TYPE's starting MSRP right below $30,000.
The Lexus ES300 also comes with one standard interior with wood and leather with the option of more wood on the steering wheel.
The BMW 3-Series has the same style of interior in all of its variants, but with leatherette or leather options and the options of aluminum or wood trim.
Like the BMW, Audi offers the same in its A4's.
All of these cars come with one interior like the G35, and the Jaguar X-TYPE comes with wood and leather standard for less than $30,000; the Lexus ES300 comes standard with leather for about $31,000: both less than your $32,000 estimate. You get for the most part the same interior in all of these cars whether you get the base model or the top model. How is that different from the G35?
Scott
Personally, I prefer the X-TYPE's interior, but I find that the G35's interior suits the car very well and I like it a lot on the G. Its look adds to the car's character, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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stsurbrook-
Actually, the discussion thread I believe that I entered did include the Jag, as it also did the Audi and Lexus. Hvan3 was making statements about their interior offerings vs. the G35's, and I had a question for hvan3 on that topic. Also, you made a statement that I had perceived to be in error, and I offered what I saw as the correct answer. I apologize, but I saw that as not being off the topic. Also, I thought that since the cars I mentioned were all considered "entry-level luxury/sport sedans", I was wondering how the X-TYPE and G35 wouldn't be in the same class. I meant no disrespect.
Reviews that sequentially list the superior performance characteristics of the G35 have become so common that they feel like the logical result of a systematic Nissan engineering campaign to dominate a carefully defined set of specifications. The car meets or beats its competitors on every common measurement in the performance/luxury sedan segment: horsepower, torque, zero to 60 acceleration, quarter-mile, braking, roadholding grip, interior cabin size and interior sound levels. It accomplishes this with a legendarily powerful and reliable engine used in several Nissan products, including the 4,300-pound Pathfinder sport utility vehicle, and rides on the same balanced rear-wheel-drive platform to be used on the upcoming Nissan 350Z. It uses an automatic transmission lifted from the Infiniti Q45 -- a car costing almost twice as much -- to beat just about everything with a manual transmission. And the G35 does this at a base price at least 10 percent less than other cars in the same class.
Even finding ways to criticize the G35 illustrate strengths. The car currently lacks a manual transmission, but offers a manual mode. A true six-speed manual is coming within six months, but with this kind of acceleration, who needs a manual anyway? The car's tail-light configuration is quirky, but these tail-lights offer a useful technology previously unavailable in this class. Because they're light-emitting diodes, they light up one-fifth of a second faster than conventional tail-lights. When the car behind you is traveling at 60 mph, or 88 feet per second, that provides an additional 18 feet to work with. Because the G35's brakes stop shorter than most cars, 18 feet is another meaningful measurement.
Detractors are in an unusual state of denial when the worst thing they can say about the G35 is that the dash uses plastic that is too hard and includes too many glove boxes, or that the car doesn't provide a certain undefinably Germanic road feel. When there's a measurement involved, the G35 usually wins.
Infiniti's strengths in engineering are matched by an endearingly inept form of marketing. The Nissan company is responsible for several engineering projects with a cult-like following: the 240Z sports car and the versatile B210 sedan of the 1970s, the inexpensive pocket rocket Sentra SE-R, and the SR20DE engine -- an esoteric model number that merits its own line of dialogue in a recent movie about street racers, "The Fast and the Furious." But the company launched its luxury division in 1989 with a Zen-like advertising campaign of stones and trees that left people saying, "Just show us the car, OK?" In the mid-1990s an Infiniti campaign described its J30 luxury sedan as having been inspired by an egg and a feather.
Though Infiniti and Lexus were launched at the same time, Lexus has successfully created far more value in its brand. Lexus sells about 220,000 vehicles annually; Infiniti sells about 70,000. An analyst once described Infiniti as one luxury car company you could always get a deal from. But this is what vehicles like the G35 sedan, the new G35 coupe, the Nissan Altima and the new 350Z have the opportunity to reverse, and this is what leads to conflicted anxiety among long-time Nissan customers. In its first two months of availability, the G35 represented almost 50 percent of total Infiniti sales and pushed Infiniti to record sales volumes. Extremely favorable reviews in mainstream and automotive press have stabilized prices and increased the value of the G35. The performance and specifications of the G35 speak for the car, even if its advertising doesn't.
Today, as it markets the G35 under the banner, "Accelerating the Future," Infiniti is attempting to capitalize on technological advances like the LED brake-lights and the car's advanced aerodynamics and ground effects. It's hard to appreciate a measurement like the drag coefficient, which makes the car sleeker and quieter, but potential buyers will be happy to know that the G35 meets or beats everything in its class. And the fact that the Infiniti G35 uses the same engine and platform as the Nissan 350Z means that advanced bad-boy modifications will be available from Nissan's new aftermarket performance parts company, NISMO.
Despite unusual marketing, Infiniti is no slouch in the quality of its ownership experience. Its warranty is four years rather than the standard three, it dominates surveys about customer satisfaction and reliability, provides loaner cars for service appointments, and staffs dealerships with well-trained professionals.
Nissan is successfully creating excitement and buzz over capable new vehicles. As investors in the rebirth of Nissan and the Infiniti brand, G35 buyers may help reshape the automotive landscape at the same time that their insider knowledge is going mainstream. Like Rick in "Casablanca," it looks like the G35 will stick around awhile and do some damage to the Germans.
Paul
El Cajon, California
Scott
Unfortunately, the salesman didn't say anything about the I35 being discontinued in a year or two. Not surprisingly, he also didn't mention the forthcoming M45, although I bet it'll go in the low-mid 40k range, which is beyond my limit. (I didn't learn these facts until later.)
So, now I'm thinking of making a return visit to look at the G35 more seriously.
Anyone out there using the G35 as a family car? Or should I look elsewhere?
Thanks.
I couldn't get past the I35 styling (just didn’t do it for me), plus 260hp 260lbs RWD
The noise is not mechanical but due to the hard material used under the rear deck. It isn't bad but slightly annoying. It is like the sound you might get by shaking a box full of books up and down, not at all loud though, think the material is just too hard and stiff. If we had better roads here in sunny San Diego you wouldn't hear it. I never hear it while cruising but only at slow speeds and hitting hard bumps. The best thing to do is turn up the music and pretend it isn't there.
Paul
To fnt,
The G35 will make an excellent family car and also provide you with a fun car at the same time. I had a Nissan Maxima before which is about the same as the I35, it is an excellent car but the same fun factor isn't there. Buy the G35, you will love it!!! It is fast and an eye catcher! Also the rear wheel drive makes for terrific handling. Hope this helps.
Paul
Thinking of buying a G35 and can't decide on the color. Just curious what others think.
Please give opinions!!
1) Ivory Pearl with Willow
2) Ivory Pearl with Graphite
3) Brilliant Silver with Graphite
4) Brilliant Silver with Willow
Which one looks best ?
TIA
I wanted to be able to take adults to lunch and to have a nicer car than our old Volvo wagon to take friends and family driving in.
The G35 has plenty of room for a family, while being a great driver's car.
You'll have to judge the apparent durability of the materials, such as carpet, light colored upper upholstery even in the dark interior, etc., with your own family in mind. If you expect the car to get hard "family use", I would recommend the dark interior.
Also, one member has pointed out that the trunk has a very lightweight innner lining and you can dent the outer body panel if a heavy object in the trunk shifts too much. I'm going to get a heavy duty bin for my trunk.
So you'll need to be the judge of how heavily you use a family car. If you love to drive, have a well-behaved family and you don't plan on using the G35 as a part-time tow truck, you've found your car!
Any takers?
http://www.forbes.com/2002/05/06/0506test.html
Paul
El Cajon, California
Thanks much for the information! I'm definitely going to go back and take the G35 out for a drive.
I actually liked the I35, as did my wife and kids. But I'm reluctant to buy a car that's at the end of its life, because resale value would drop and it might be difficult to get parts in a few years.
My wife thinks we should wait and look at the M45, but I think it'll be too expensive.
-fnt
If you reread the first paragraph on what I originally written, you concluded exactly what I have said. Regardless whether you buy a base model or top of the line, you get the same interior.
The point I was making is that if Infiniti really wanted luxurious interior, they can easily add more luxury amenities and pass on the cost to the consumers. You get what you pay for. Some people prefer luxury interior (subjective), while other prefers performance. In my opinion, G35 offers both for GREAT value.
I have a G35 on order that includes both the aero package and aero kit. The aero package includes the rear wing and the underbody diffusers which provides the zero lift capability to the rear and brings the aerodynamic coefficient to 0.26g. The aero kit adds the front, side, and rear body moldings. You can also choose not to get the aero package but still get the rear wing with the aero kit if you like the look of it. I personally chose to include the aero kit because I thought that it looks better with it rather than have the black plastic molding and that the car will be more unique than others. Good luck on your decision.