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Second off, I remember your posts from some lexus boards and aren't you a salesman for lexus?? No offense meant, but I highly doubt your opinion of infiniti is fair & balanced! There are alot of people posting and complaining about lexus issues and I havent seen a post like the above from you on those boards.
In the interests of full-disclosure, people that read your post should know whom its coming from.
There are also some others are out there that "spin" whatever stripped fact they can use against the 1) car they wished they had bought or 2) in this case apparently the car they wish they had on the lot to sell. How's that new LS430 selling? Infiniti is going to make Lexus seem antiqated and dull to all but the eldest very soon.
Chris =- it definitely is not the old moronic buyers remorse or jealously argument. It's the fact that no manufacturer is immune to issues. Infiniti included. When you look at some of the bulletins you wonder -- such as the old disconnecting fuel hose fire issue. When the G35 first came out, people were saying it's Infiniti, it's reliable, no issues. Well there seemed to have been issues. You car in particular from what I can gather a number of times to fix various things, including the rocking seat, brakes, service and I don't know what else or even how often.
I don't think anybody Lexus has any buyers remorse for anything Infiniti, but I don't think any manufacturer is immune from reliability issues with their vehicles.
Infiniti seems reactionary IMHO. They are doing the right thing with the brake issue AND this is prompted by external pressure. It is not out of the goodness of their hearts.
To be honest, my best service experience has been with Jaguar and Honda. Honda replaced my entire ABS braking system out-of-warranty..no questions asked. Too bad the current Accord is bland-looking. It is priced right and relatively trouble-free. The current V6 deals are selling well below invoice.
sjk2575 - I know a great company that does detailing. They work for the rodents at Jim Coleman Infiniti, of all places.
I strongly suggest you call them separately for a better price. This way, you will avoid the dealer mark-up. Their name is: "Peoples Choice." The owner is wonderful and will do anything to ensure you are happy. Very pleasant experience and they will come to you if you need that.
chris - I would rather have my car stop 5 feet shorter, as indicated in the recent comparo from the stop from 70 to 0 than wear out every 8,000 miles. I have 20K on my car and brake fairly heavily due to the traffic and the brakes are not even close to needing replacement. As you allege the brakes work better than Porsche, but all those other manufacturers will have brakes that last 3 times as long.
Why are you doing 70 going down roads with crosswalks?
The following link shows the G35 trailing the BMW by more than 10 feet from a 60 to zero stop.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/73569/page013.- html
That five feet, if I ever needed it to avoid rear ending someone ina panic stop will be well worth the cost of new brake pads every 10,000 miles. Personal choice, I guess.
I would always rather have the better brakes, in all situations, in the real world of daily driving.
I could care less about who wins all these mind numbing discussions between BMW and the G35, they are both fine vehicles and compete very well in most areas.
Oh, and by the way, at 111 feet stopping distance from 60-0, 5 feet represents a 4.5%.
Far from "statistically insignificant".
"Oh, and by the way, at 111 feet stopping distance from 60-0, 5 feet represents a 4.5%."
I have NEVER had a situation where 5 feet from a panic stop at 60 or 70 would have made a difference - due to the fact I adhere to the golden rule about driving. I will not say that about street driving at 25mph though, and that was not my point above.
To quote 111 ft in one comparo and 128 ft inanother and have my brakes wear out at 8,000 miles, I will gladly forgo the 5 ft. However, I'm sure in the next comparo it will be 5 feet behind.
I have some questions hoping someone can help me
out. I am planning to buy an Infinity G35 and
checked out many websites for the invoice that
is $28571. I also went to a dealership to check
the price as well. They were about the same.
1.Can someone tell me where I can get the real
invoice?
2.How to negotiate to get a better deal?
3.How much is above the real invoice allowing a dealer to make money?
Thanks
You can find the invoice price by clicking on the "New" tab at the top of the page and following the links. And you can get lots of buying advice by clicking on the "Tips & Advice" tab. There are a lot of discussions on our Smart Shopper board where negotiating is discussed in great detail.
These are some resources you can check out while you are waiting for some responses here.
Good luck!
Further comparing braking distances (ie, tire friction) from different days and different test venues is ridiculous. In general, ultimate braking distance is one of the most worthless measures of car performance out there.
There are attributes of "better brakes" that are noticeable to the driver - no fade, linear modulation, proper pedal effort, lack of sponginess, etc. NONE of these desirable attributes are going to be measured by ultimate braking distance.
- Mark
Have you called luxury dealers (in Alexandria) to ask who they use?
Please let us know if you find someone good in your neck of the DC area.
clpurnell - if you are going M35 Class, why not get a Jag or BMW cream puff for the same money?
FYI, One good thing is that People's choice open 9am-9pm and you can drop your car off and come back next day if you want.
I haven't try them out, yet. Will post update...
I am curious what owners of the G35 average mileage wise, especially after they are broken in.
Is your mileage consistant with the EPA's estimates?
Examples of EPA estimates:
For the G35 coupe 6MT -
"EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 20 mpg city/ 27 mpg highway"
For the G35 Auto, RWD:
EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Automatic: : 18 mpg / 26 mpg
I drive mostly highway miles, but 50% of that is in slow to bumper to bumper traffic. I'm in Miami, FL.
Thought they have a pick-up and delivery service?
clpurnell - You may want to wait for a used 2003 XJR as it has more refinements. The 2002 is nice. I have one and have an '03 X-Type. No serious issues and all maintenance is free on both. Build quality is outstanding. The suspension rides like a dream. The XJR is almost too fast. Not too many people post in the XJR forum, so I am not sure if that is good or bad?
If you have an issue, Jaguar will most likely swap the car without putting you through the wringer.
I also learned that buying or leasing new Jaguars is not good because they lose value rapidly. Therefore, you may be better off with someone else taking the depreciation. Certification gives you a warranty to 100,000 miles.
Infiniti residual value may be better if you plan to buy and then sell in a few years.
Go with your dream car and be happy if you are not sure which car to buy!
Great service, friendly people and the work is done right the first time. They replaced the rotors and the brake pads and did some other work.
It is worth the long ride for those of us in Maryland and DC. We no longer need to endure the poor attitude of our other local dealer(s). Passport sets and raises the bar for others. I rate them a 10 out of 10.
Expect Passport to take away business from other local dealers. I recommend Passport to anyone in the Washington, DC area.
http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_midlux.htm#00- 006
Look at the Jag, Volvo and Saab...all American-owned companies (Ford and GM). Things are looking better in the safety arena!
so..for me i think the car is safe enough ....
That is the point, saying the G is a safe car because you were lucky at not getting hurt crashing the car at a 100 says nothing. I know owners who survived the Pinto gas tank fiasco, does that mean the car was safe?
The G as in others in its' class may well be a safe car, but saying it's safe because you got lucky says nothing.
Last month, a car rear-ended my G35 coupe at a light. It was low-speed, but the impact was enough to send the G forward a few inches and snapped my neck back. My rear bumper required only minor repair (less than $400), which her insurance company paid for.
I don't doubt the methodology used by IIHS, but they test just one very specific type of crash, and the results shouldn't be construed to represent every type of minor bumper fender-bender, let alone general crashworthiness.
What is the performance hit on the AWD G35 compared to the RWD one? The AWD is about 10% heavier, so there should be slower acceleration numbers, but by how much?
What about handling? Does AWD significantly change the weight distribution, negativelly impacting handling?
I doubt you'll sense much of a difference in the weight balance of the car, but in turns the extra heft will likely reduce skidpad numbers by a margin, and I suspect fuel economy will drop by about 5%.
I also don't expect it to use too much extra gas, as the system is a part time one.