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My local rep called to advise me of the change in delivery date, even though my unit was one of the first on the board. Wanted to find out if I was interested in purchasing the I35 loaner. Not.
I can wait, at least we'll see how sales go with what comes in. If their still on the lot better pricing could be a result for those that have to wait.
Just exactly how much is Danny dealing? This is who I am working with but I have not gotten to negotiations yet. Did you buy from him? What did you get?
Never ceases to amaze me every time I leaf thru BMW CCA's Roundel magazine or Bimmer magazine how many great aftermarket tuners and suppliers are out there either dedicated entirely to BMWs or doing extensive business with BMWs. Something you don't see with Cadillac, Lincoln, Lexus, or Infiniti. Too bad! This is an area that separates a car company that caters to and appreciate enthusiasts, and wants to develop lasting relationships, to a car company that just want to sell you your very next car.
Wouldn't it be great if Infiniti would work with some serious tuners in USA over the next couple years to offer an M-like or Alpina-like G35??? Plus lots of high quality performance accessories that won't ruin car or void warranty? Then stick with the relationships and broaden them across the entire Infiniti line: Q45, etc.
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aggie4, let's put it this way you would be crazy to consider a deal less than $900+ off MSRP. Does that help? I'm in Calif. so I am stuck between two dealers that say MSRP only. I can't travel that far to save that kinda money.
I can't wait to actually SIT in IT!!
IF you're considering BOTH the G35 AND the Acura 3.2TL Type S - please be sure to check out the 'Sedans Comparison' boards.
Craig!!
Lexus has TRD, I'm sure their factory supercharger for the Solara would fit Lexus models with the same engine. It would even be covered under warranty. And Rod Millen Motorsports specializes in Toyota's powertrains now.
So I don't think BMW is ahead here. The M division is wonderful, but the cars are prohibitively expensive. I doubt anyone shopping in the G35's price range will end up in an M3.
You want a great aftermarket? Check out Miata.net. Just for forced induction, you have a menu with Flyin' Miata, Garrett, and Jackson Racing. And they are affordable by mortals.
-juice
Give Infiniti the benefit of the doubt. Yes, they flubbed over the past 5-6 years. But they are headed in the right track and are trying. I am a Bimmer fan myself, but it does not mean I am blind to other options.
Ultimately, the greatest marketing campaign in the world will not make up for a product does not fulfill the needs that the consumer is looking for. Lincoln introduced the LS a couple of years ago, but I did not consider it over a 3er. Cadillac more recently is trying to do the same with the CTS - again not picking that over a 3er. The new A4 came out last fall - but I do not want a FWD car - and the AWD/V6 combo makes it a little too rich for me. The Acura TL has 260 horses for a while now, but again, I do not want FWD no matter how good the chassis.
So when Infiniti announced the G35, the 260-hp/RWD combo and the promised 6 speed got my attention. I will adopt a wait-and-see attitude. But on paper at least, it blows away the 3er (NOT the M3) while sporting a lower base price. So I am following the G35's progress.
And don't forget that Nissan has already announced that they will soon start selling NISMO part through official Nssan dealers - kinda like TRD for Toyota. Presumably NISMO will bring over parts for Infiniti as well since they already do it for Infiniti's counterpart models in Japan. Either way, I don't care much for it. Interesting stuff, but IMO if that stuff is that good, then it should be factory options, not aftermarket addons. I refuse to spend anymore money on my car beyond what I spend during the initial purchase (except maintenance, of course).
As for involvement in car clubs and such, who has time for that $hit?
The club also gave 15% on parts at a lot of aftermarket dealers. Actually much of the performance equipment was better than from the mfg., but probably couldn't be offered because the overhead would be tremendous of they had to carry, for example, ten different exhaust systems.
Like you, I'm waiting. I've heard and seen cars come out so manytimes that people on the boards are excited about, and look great on paper (IS300, Altima just in the last year or so), and when they show up ... well, I'm waiting. If nothing is really new by next Spring I'm going with either the Acura 6M w/ATTS or BMW, choices that seem obvious to me at the moment.
Take care.
Joe W.
Red, willow, sport package, 5 spoke wheels, demo car. Same car was at Dallas show.
Good looking, tight sheet metal.
Comfortable seats, but smaller than i-35. Just right for 5'-8", 160 lbs.
Bulge at driver's leg noticeable, but not objectionable.
No significant wear on seats or handles.
High quality plastic on dash.
Comfortable steering wheel. Nice movement with instrument cluster.
Titanium center console holding up well.
Solid "clunk" when closing doors.
Spoiler looks better in person.
Negatives, only three - Small pocket in console by passenger's left leg - Too small for anything. Interior door latch handles felt too light. Center console lid felt too light.
Confirmed that rear view mirrors fold out of the way, both forward and back.
Spoke with regional dealer manager, Bruce Campbell. Auto magazines had review of PRODUCTION vehicles about two weeks ago. The Edmund's review is the first in print. It's based on production vehicles, not prototypes. Notice in their review that they had more than one vehicle to look at - with and without sport suspension.
Delivery expected in Memphis on March 11 for delivery in the south.
Sports package will be available without spoiler.
Schedule for this car:
March 2 - Infiniti of Nashville
March 4 - Crown Infiniti, Birmingham
March 5 - Brewbaker Infiniti, Montgomery
March 6 - Prebul Infiniti, Chattanooga
March 7 - Harper Infiniti, Knoxville
March 11 - Infiniti of Huntsville
Can't wait to drive one!
Did he happen to mention how one goes about over-riding the order form that forces you to select the Aero Pkg. if you want the Luxury model with Sports Pkg.?
I learned this morning that the G35 arrived today so I went to see and drive it. This is one totaly amazing car, I bought it on the spot will have delivery next Tuesday. I never considered the G35 because I didn't want to wait until Mid March and presto it arrived before my Acura. I guess things happen for a reason because I like the G35 alot better. The pictures of the G35 do not do it justice, you must see and sit in this car it is awesome. Will let everyone know when I take delivery
Congrats, I hope I am as enamored as you when I see mine.
First off, I went to the dealer at lunch time, I am returning tonite at 7 to drive the car. Dealer couldnt take it on the road because, get this, they couldnt get insurance and a plate, they have since called me back to tell me all is now in order, they received two, One was outside ready to go and the other is in their showroom , here in canada we have 3 choices, base, premium and sport, I have opted for the premium. Let me say this as far as styling and quality, I have no doubt that this is the car for me, as far as the drive , unless it drives like a bus I am getting it. I should say that back in 1991 I had a Q45 leased for 3 years, which I landed up leasing for a 4th year becuase I liked it so much, but back then the car was $50,000.00 here and now the new Q is $80,00.00 hence, no Q for me. I will let you all know about the drive tomorrow morning.
Price here of premium with dealer prep and all the other B/s is $41500.00 , 36 month lease with nothing down with a 59% residual value ( can you believe (59%) is cad $ 670.00/ month , which in todays dollars is US $ 416.00 (not bad). Before I decided on the Acura I looked at the CTS and F'en GM only wanted to give a 48% residual, can you imagine that on a 2003. They don't even have confidence in their own cars. Besides the car is so ugly
Now as far as the Canadian comments, don't you people know we have the best skaters , the best hockey players and no draft.
they sliced $900.00 off for total of $42,000.00
Lease rate for 3 years is 6.9%. lOOK i KNOW IN 4 MONTHS I CAN GET A BETTER DEAL, BUT WITH 59% RESIDUAL ON A LEASE IT REALLY DOSENT MATTER.
BESIDES WANT TO BE THE FIRST. And yes I opted not to take the navigation which is on the demo, I have a good sense of direction, but damn that girls voice on the nav is so sweet. LOL, but then again so is my wifes (if she is reading this)
And how about Sarah Hughes!!!!
We have no draft either!!!!
http://www.mtdemocrat.com/display/inn_auto/S0228_A.txt
according to the review, "the engine spins a reasonably slow 2,400 rpm at 70 mph"
What color did you get? If it's the Twilight Blue, could you give us an idea how dark this blue is? Is it as dark as the Majestic Blue on the I-35 or lighter, like the Spectra Blue on the Lexus IS300? Thanks.
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,212440,00.html
Thanks for the link. Good review, but the guy needs a lesson in basic English grammar.
Don't know about you, but the chance of a slob like me rolling in hay with a Heidi clone is near zero. Although I prefer Heidi's 35D, I may have to settle for G35 instead.
I had went to the Detroit Auto Show and decided on the Garnet there. I'm getting anxious for it to get here, in the unlikely event I don't like it, I'll get a Q.
I think it's strange that Infiniti hasn't moved the G35 from the "Future Models" section of their web page. A lot of people who have went to the site to look at my car haven't been able to find it because it's not listed as a model with the others. I wonder how many potential sales have been missed from casual buyers.
http://acura.com/comparison/comp_frame.asp?model=TL
I hope that works!!
Craig!!
Craig!!
This car had the sport suspension. Ride was firm, but bumps in the road didn't get transferred to the passengers. Really seemed to hold the road well. Steering was very tight.
The ride was quiet when cruising, little engine or wind noise. Nice growl when he punched the accelerator.
And the answer is:
80 mph - 2500-2600 rpm
90 mph - 2700-2800 rpm
while cruising
And lots more power when he punched it at 90.
Very impressive ride!
Maybe that reviewer wrote his review after putting the G35 thru its paces in this area? Just hope he didn't burn a hole in the seats while enjoying a smoke!
Someone here who has a G35 needs to do some hands on research and report back to us. Pronto!
Passenger Compartment (ft3)
98.0 (w/o sunroof)
95.5 (with sunroof)
Trunk (ft3) 14.8
Total Internal Volume(ft3)
112.8 (w/o sunroof)
110.3 (with sunroof)
TL is 96.5 and 14.3 for a total of 110.8 with standard sunroof, so the TL and G35 are basically the same size.
Hint: you will probably never see (and I haven't) the Acura at SCCA Solo2 slolom races. I predict you will see LOTS of G35es in Solo2, especially after the six-speed comes out. Reason: the Acura is doomed by FWD, despite it's power. There are only a handful of FWD cars at Solo2. If you want to see what cars are really good in an all-around sense, go to a Solo2 near you.
Also, there will a ton of aftermarket equipment available for the G35. It will make the IS300 aftermarket look like a hobby shop in comparison.
Watch out for the same dealer gouge mentality as in 1970 for the 240Z. The Infiniti dealers smell blood now and those of you who buy early are shark meat. In a way, I'm glad the six-speed will be coming out this fall. By then the initial demand will be satiated, the dealers may be a little hungrier, and the option packages may be reasonably priced and sorted.
The auto G35 will be a nice, slightly faster than average, four door sedan. The typical buyer may not notice anything different from buying a FWD Acura S. But the six-speed will be a unique animal. Definitely the closest thing to a Japanese M car. A modified G35 might make an M3 driver sweat some. A stock six-speed should eat anything short of the M3. After all, the 330i manual is a 6.4 second car. The auto G35 should equal or beat that. Move over Bimmer drivers!
CDN$42,000 = US$26,187
Just an FYI....we'll see what we get on this side of the border.
Anyways with that said, when Acura starting jerking me around about release date of my 2003, I was starting to read the threads on this page and on a whim called an infinity dealer who told me they will have cars in yesterday.
I drove the car last night, and for the first time in months I had the old feeling back. You know the one, the excitement, the feeling that comes over you when you know you are getting an amazing vehicle that you want. The same kind of feeling you get when you have been smitten by an incredible chick. Yup, I think you guys are getting a sense now.
Ok, enough with the jibberish. This car is truly amazing. It is solid, handles incredible, the trim is great, and fast is not the right word to describe it. Interior volume does blow the Acura and CTS away. Great head room, more than enough hip and leg room. Like the Q45, when you turn off the car the drivers seat slides all the way back for easy exit and when you start the car it returns to your memory position. Only snag is you had better make sure that the person sitting behind the driver is out of the car before you take the key out beacuse that seat will land up on their legs. Also rear foot room though ample is hard for the person to get their feet out from under the front seat. So put big footed rear passengers on pasenger side.
Another thing, whoever gets to sit in the middle position of the back seat will not be a happy camper. As it is real wheel drive, you have the big hump on the floor. This is really a 4 seater unless you have small kids.
At first I had a frustrating test drive, I took it on the highway and the yahoos in front of me were so captivated by the headlights that they slowed down and I can see they were looking thru their rearview mirror, so I had trouble opening it up. However a nice gentle press of the gas peddle and a quick move right and then left, left this guy in the dust wondering " who was that masked man".
The car handles as well as any european car I have driven, it is lightening fast (that's the word I was looking for) and handles itself admirably over bumps, you feel the road but you do not feel the vibration of the bump as you do in the Acura Type "S" . The front seats are big enough ( I am a big guy) and you feel solid in them. The consol between driver and passenger is wide and you have this sense of comfort and security in the drivers seat.
I have read that this vehilce is a 4 door Z, althought I haven't seen the Z, I kind of understand what the writer was getting at.
The front and rear lights are amazing, and will be a real eye grabber. The front instrument panel is orange and very bright, I couldnt be bothered to look for the dimming switch as I was having to much fun driving.
I have ordered a Black on Black, the dealer had two cars there, first was a base model no sunroof in a champagne colour which looked one clour during the day and looked totaly different when I returned at night. The seats were beige and the trim was a dark grey like colour , it was very nice.
The demo I drove was silver, with a black interior, with navigation system. The nav pops up
out of a part of the dash, the screen is small
but looks appealing. I really didn't spend any time with the nav as here is Canada we all have a great sense of direction and not many people are opting for it in any car. So no comments from me on nav.
Demo came with 17" Goodyear tires, you can get Bridgestone also , depends on how your car arrives.
I do need some quick help from someone out there
that can explain the diff between all season and summer tires to me. As I plan to put 16" winters with steel rims on for the winter I want to know if I should try to get the dealer to replace the all seasons with summer tires. Comments Please!!!!
By the way the transmission is great, very smooth and responsive and the sequential shift is fun and works as well as can be expected given what it is.
Ok although i am not out of words, I do have to get some work done as I blew the whole day yesterday on my car quest.
If anyone has any specific questions, fire away I will do my best. And by the way don't ask me anything about RPM's and the like. I was really to busy to pay attention, I drive by feel, and this baby felt wonderfull.
And truthfully, even if Pamela or sue or whoever were in the back seat, i couldnt have cared less. I found my love.
Oh, last comment. there is something very strange about the windshield, I have never in past cars commented or even gave thought to visibility, but there is something about the visibility that is so different from any other casr I have been in . The visibility at night was like watching a giant screen t.v. I don't know if the zenon headlights were doing it or there is something with the size of the glass or the shape but this car has incredible visibility which you will notice for sure.
K, enough ,later
Great job Gabman, and more importantly, thanks for giving insights from the car buyer/user point of view. Its a perspective that 99.99% of professional automotive writers ignore.
As for the view out from the front windshield, I *think* one reason you get that expansive feeling is because of the shape of the hood. The middle section is much lower, and the sides rise to accomodate the headlamps. Kinda like a pontoon. Porsche has been doing it for decades and it works quite well.
As a follow up just got off the phone with my dealer who provided me with my vin number and scheduled arrival between Tuesday and Friday of next week. Will be holding my breath, actually I will busy with Pamela and the likes of her until I can fill my pleasure with my new wheels, no offense to the chicks out there just trying to be funny ... later