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~Lance
It's got only 20 hp and 20 ft. lbs. more than the 3.4L at the same RPM. Although it's butter smooth, I don't think anyone could tell the difference, performance wise, by the seat of their pants.
On the other hand, I think a multi-valve, VVT engine good for 240+ hp/tq would be worth the effort.
I agree with the multi-valve idea... one of the best engines GM ever made was the 3.5 from the Olds Intrigue... 215 hp I believe... it's too bad they stopped making that. The 4.2 vortec would be great, but I don't think it would fit considering the size of the engine bay and the setup of that particular engine (rear wheel drive...).
What we ended up getting is a decent engine... I think if GM decides to go ahead with the Tour edition it would fill in a big gap between the RDV and RX300 which uses a super-high tech VVT/i toyota 6 (which is a great engine). My dad has a 99 Park Avenue Ultra, and I've driven both the Ultra and the standard Park Ave. and I think the addition of the blower completely transforms the car... sure you get a little torque steer and what not if you stand on it, but the AWD of the RDV would eliminate that... I really hope GM builds that Tour edition... all they need to do is rework that exhaust... it's ugly, especially in person....
~Lance
~Lance
You can order a supercharger kit that is sold for the Grand Am and install it in the RDV with ease.
The Grand Prix SE, much like the Buick Century, comes with the 3.1L, not the 3.4L. The 3.1L is also a fine engine with good power and torque.
The reason why the 4.2L won't be available for the RDV is because, being an I-6, it's just too long to fit in the RDV's engine bay.
I agree that the Toyota 3.0L V-6 is a great engine (sludge notwithstanding). Thanks to VVTi, it has a more flexible powerband and somewhat more power than our 3.4L. BTW, have you ever driven the GS300 or IS300? The Toyota 3.0L I-6 is a dream...almost as sweet as BMW's.
If only we could have our cake and eat it too...
~Lance
I doubt I'm going to be throwing a supercharger into my RDV anytime soon though... I didn't buy the car for performance, I bought it for it's utlity side... which has proven more than helpful this winter. Hopefully my next car, the 350Z, will, like I said, satisfy my need for speed... I just need to figure out how to keep both cars so I can drive something in the winter... or maybe I should just wait for the Mitsu Lancer Evo VII to come over here w/ it's 4 wheel drive... hmmm...
Sorry about that 3.1/3.4 mix up. My dad's company car is a Grand Prix SE and I could swear it was the 3.4... the two powerplants look identical if you just glace at them in comparison...
I heard an interesting rumor today circulating through the dealer grapevines... 3.6 (??) inline-5 planned for the '04 RDV to replace the 3.4 since GM will discontinue production of it soon... I guess it's the 4.2 I6 with one less cylinder, and a shorter stroke... I guess it's the engine that would also go into the Chevy Bel Air if that concept ever sees light of day, just w/out the supercharger... it would be mounted in the engine bay to drive the front wheels and use the same versatrak system that is currently imployed... I don't know of the validity of this rumor, but that engine would be a feasible replacement for the 3.4 considering it's hp rating (220 or 230) and the fuel economy it is capable of... the Bel Air supposedly gets 21 mpg... I guess we'll just have to see...
~Lance
Still puzzling over the differences on comparable CXL's fuel efficiency; seems like there's more deviation than one would expect - many have said 17-19 is standard for mix of street and highway, yet I can't get over 16. Oh well --
When I drove from Philadelphia to Lancaster, PA last Monday (approx. 75 highway miles) I averaged around 20MPG.
To Derek21-I too had the same problem you've experienced with the EZ Pass (called SunPass in Florida). I took the RDV to the Florida Turnpike office and they quickly ran a wand over the windshield to determine where I could place the transponder. Turns out about the only place I can put it is in the upper left (driver's side) corner to the right of that little black square piece of plastic that's at the top of the window. I have it attached with velcro and have not had any problems with it. It's only about an 1/8- 1/4 inch from the very top of the window. Hope this helps.
To jpzec- I live in Florida and this has been a very warm winter (temps above 80 sometimes 90 everyday). I too wait in line to pick up my kids from school and have noticed the temp gauge goes up past 1/2 to about 5/8 maybe a little more. However, once I start to drive it only takes about 60 seconds to come back into the normal range, which for me is slightly less than 1/2. I have noticed this at stop lights as well and it has never been a problem. Good luck.
By the way, I now have 15,000 miles on my RDV and haven't noticed any problems and am still averaging about 20-22 MPG (mostly city driving). However, I do at times get a "click" sound (you can't hear it but you can feel it in your foot)in the brake pedal as I'm depressing it at times. Has anyone else had this?
~Lance
DWS41- I have. The first "attempt" to illiminate this was replacement of a mechanical brake part (off the pedal) inside of the fire wall. This "bar" notifies the brake lights to activate when the brake pedal is depressed. The noise continued...I met with "Dan, the GM Rep" and he felt it wasn't a safety problem and for me to continue to monitor it. I reserved the option of bringing it back to the dealership for a third "examination" and consideration. The "diagnosis" is difficult since the problem is intermittent.
We called OnStar and they were great. They confirmed our location (via Satelite) and stayed on the line as we spoke with Buick Roadside Assistance.
Buick was not so great. The rep kept asking us what zip code we were in, or if we knew someone in the neighborhood????? Well, we finally gave them the address and zip code of a nearby house and they said they'd have a truck to us in approx. 45 min.
Well, we thanked them very much, and I proceeded to change the tire myself in less than five minutes. Contrary to the "mystery tool" discussion some us had a few months back, it was very easy to do with just the supplied jack and wrench.
1. Remove jack from rear compartment.
2. Remove wrench from jack.
3. Tell kids to stay in the car.
4. Open rear storage tray lid.
5. Lift small carpet flap to reveal bolt.
6. Remind kids to stay in the car.
7. Turn bolt with wrench to lower spare tire.
8. Tell kids that you now need their help.
9. Place jack under car (with kids help).
10. Use wrench to jack up car (with kids help).
11. Use wrench to remove wheel (with kids help).
12. Use wrench to install spare tire (with kids help).
13. Throw everything in the back of the car (with kids help).
14. Tell kids how helpful they were.
15. Depart the area.
Laughing at the kid commentary, crucial part of process.
Was the Buick person you spoke with who wasn't so helpful with the national Buick company or a local dealership?
Loved the bits about the kids.
Glad you're safe and sound.
Very unusual for a modern tire to experience a blow-out. Unless of course you picked up a nail which caused a slow leak.
Was the tire the Uniroyal or the Firestone, and have you been able to determine what caused the blow out?
I caught a glimpse of it just before hitting it and I thought it looked like a soda pop can, or something. Anyway, it tore a 3" gash right across the middle of the tread and the tire instantly deflated.
I ordered a replacement on Monday and it has to be shipped from Portland, OR. It seems that it is an OEM only tire and not normally carried by stores. It will cost $118.50 out the door (which includes shipping from the warehouse).
CWJ
http://tirerack.com/tires/index.jsp
CWJ
ROTFLMAO
I forget exactly what speeds go with what ratings, but the "touring" uniroyals that you can get on tirerack or presumably just about anyplace else are rated "T" while for some reason, the one's fitted to the Rendezvous are rated "S."
On the other hand, someone somewhere is bound to fit "Z" rated Pirellis to their SUV someday. Maybe an MDX or X5 owner has already.
CWJ
While on vacation, I read a USA today business section review of GM; the focus of the article was on the financial success and quality improvement for GM, which has risen to the top of domestic automakers in profit and quality. Because of GMs success and fiscal stability, they are moving ahead with features to improve mileage economy and environmental impact. They are looking at a continuous variable transmission, potentially in 2003's, that should be a good improvement on gas driven cars, and are hoping to produce hybrids for their 8 cylinder line in the near future as well.
I hope they apply this to Rendevouzs, as I still am so very happy with this vehicle except for the mileage. We needed to take our 8 seater, 8 cylinder Sequoia for this vacation, and it averaged the same gas mileage (16.1) as our Rondy, with much quicker acceleration and power. If Buick can improve in the ways GM is planning, RDV's will have a full package of comfort and capability that will rise above the pack.
The last time I took a highway trip in our CXL with pax and baggage, I got better than 22 MPG. During straight and level cruise at 70 MPH, I've seen an average economy reading as high as 27 MPG on the DIC.
I also get between 16 and 17 MPG with my RDV during the week, but that is primarily stop and go city driving.
Ford Expedition is redesigned this year as a ULEV; it would be nice if GM looked at this redesign option along with the other enhancements mentioned by USA today. The other suggestion for GMC would be to not overestimate mileage on the RDV door sticker. Toyota underestimated mileage, which led to a pleasant surprise!
Despite mileage, the RDV still surpasses Sequoia in my estimation as a driving experience. There is fairly extreme wind noise with freeway driving in the Sequoia, which is also noticed in the GMC Envoy. Sequoia still feels like a truck, albeit refined truck, and is much more exhausting to drive than RDV.
Unfortunately, we only saw a total of 4 RDVs on our Northern to Southern CA week long roadtrip, which included a golf resort in Palm Springs. I still strongly recommend RDVs to anyone lurking at this site!
Glad your children helped you with your tire Fedlawman - you must have a winning touch! - My kids would find a way out somehow!
My problem lies here
When we did the original purchase of our RDV the option packages that were available on the dealers lot did not include the rear seat for the RDV we wanted... No problem , We`ll purchase the rear seat after, it`s a easy install....WRONG!!
when i went back to the dealer to price the kit for the rear seat after purchasing ...RDV is so new , You have to buy the parts seperately ie:upholtery,frame,foam,crews ,Etc..Etc..Etc....for a total price of $6332.46 ya .....O.K.
Needless to say i dont have a third seat unless gm makes available for existing RDV owners a kit wich comes complete. Any ideas? other than waiting for a few smashed RDV`s to show up at the local junkyard?
The first thing I did with my RDV was rip the back seat out, hehe. As it is my RDV is a 4-passenger SUV, no more 6 or 7 passenger mini-van.
The reason I took it out was to fit my sub-box in... this summer I'm building a custom fiberglass enclosure for all my audio stuff that is currently just in a box in the back. I'd like to get the rear seat back in, but that's not going to happen. Eventually I want to get the bench seat in place of my captains chairs so that I can fit an extra person or at least it looks more natural inside...
As far as installs go, I did everything myself in my car... pionner cd player + 6-disc in-dash changer. Front component speakers, full ranges in the back doors and a set of 3-way coax's in the hatch area, very nice. I've got 2 amps for the speakers, both under my rear captain's chairs, and then the sub box in the back with 3 10" subwoofers in it. Very clean, very neat install... it really looks nice in the RDV and the shape of the car makes a nice sound stage and the acoustics are top notch in these cars...
~Lance
Took my RDV to dealer to get loose lower body Moulding on Passenger front taken care of and have them check squeal in Drivers window. Was told that all would have to be ordered. New lower body Moulding and a new Motor for drivers window.Worst part is that Body Moulding has to be Painted to match (worried about Paint Mis-match!!). Now my wife tells me vehile is stalling and check engine light is coming on. All after I get back from Dealer. Will have to get this checked out next trip. Anyone with similar experiences???
I loaded up the rear of the Rondy with groceries and headed home. I had the radio on and the sunroof open.
Upon arriving at home I backed up to the front of my house (a row home in Philadelphia, no garage) and hopped out. I tried to open the tailgate of the Rondy from the key fob but it wouldn't open. I tried to open it using the interior release button. That didn't work. I then discovered that none of the key fob buttons worked, and, in fact, I couldn't lower the windows, turn on the radio, or close the sunroof (not a good thing as it was supposed to rain that night). I then noticed that the "Service Engine Soon" light was on and flashing between that and "Security." I pressed the OnStar button and spoke to a representative who contacted another department to figure out what I should do. I was told to turn off the car, then turn the key to the "On" position (immediately before the turn over position) and leave it there for 5 minutes. That was supposed to reset the Security setting that I'd apparently enabled. (I assumed this was somehow due to my perhaps pressing the horn button back at the store.) I tried their suggestion but it didn't work. The OnStar guy had given me a number to call for GM's Roadside Assistance folks, so I called and was told that instead of 5 minutes I should have left it in the On position for at least 10 minutes or even better, 12. I tried this and still no luck. :-(
I called back and was told that all they could do at that point was tow me to a secure lot. Instead of that, though, I decided to take the Rondy to a garage at my wife's office and wait until Monday to get service.
Sunday morning (the next day) I went to try a few more things on the RDV. It was then that I discovered that the roof of this garage at my wife's job had major leaks! It was dripping into the sunroof. :-( Fortunately, not a lot of water had gotten in, just enought to dampen the center storage console and the seats. Easily dried up with a towel.
Still couldn't get the RDV working so I gave up and took it to the dealer on Monday of this week. They determined that there was a problem with the BCM (Body Control Module) and it would need to be replaced. They had to have one overnighted and they set me up with a rental car--a Chevy Cavalier with crumbs all over the driver's seat. :-(
Tuesday they installed the part and I got it back and (as Buick would say) it's all good.
They couldn't tell me what really had happened other than that the BCM needed to be replaced. I've been very very careful in driving--avoiding potholes, etc., so it isn't due to rough handling. I guess it's just one of those things. I'm going to try to find out how much the BCM would have cost if not covered by warranty. I think it's a very pricey part.
I guess that's a drawback to a car with soooo many great features: more things that can go wrong. :-(
I have brought our RDV in to the dealer twice for a fuse blowout that nukes onstar. They think it comes from using the cigarette lighter for cell phone charges, but aren't sure - it also nukes the lighter/charger.
Has anyone had anything like this before?
Good luck. :-)
So far, no more problems...
JK27
Though with only 185 hp, the RDV really doesn't warrant a radar detector, does it? LOL.
Happy cruising.