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So do you have any AM static with your radio when using power accessories?
http://hdkautosport.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Sto- re_Code=HA&Category_Code=PA
I can't seem to find anything about how powerful (or not powerful) the stereo and it's speakers are anywhere online. I noticed the rear 6x9 speakers said they were 40W max/20W nominal, but that's about all I can deduce...
Also, is it difficult to replace the stereo and/or speakers? Can I do it myself easily, or is it something best left to the pros?
KEY FEATURES
- Flip-Down Removable Faceplate with Carrying Case
- High-Pass and Low-Pass Electronic Crossovers
- Kenwood Music Keg Ready
- Maximum Output Power: 50 Watts x 4
- Plays MP3-Encoded CD-Rs and Conventional CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs
- Preouts: Front, Rear
- Rotary Encoder Volume Control
- Selectable Rear/Non-Fading Preout
- SIRIUS Satellite Ready
- System Q Sound Control
- LCD Display: Color Shock Variable Color
GENERAL FEATURES
- Clock
- Display Contrast Adjustment
- Display Dimmer
- Display Readout: 5 x 7 12-Character Dot Matrix
- Finish: Silver/Gray
- Flip-Down Removable Faceplate with Carrying Case
- Iso-Mount Capability for Japanese Vehicles
- Rotary Encoder Volume Control
- Sub Illumination: Blue
- Illuminated Function Buttons: Green & Red (Selectable)
- LCD Display: Color Shock Variable Color
- Touch-Tone Buttons: Defeatable
POWER RATINGS
- Full Bandwidth Power (less than 1%% THD): 22 Watts x 4
- Maximum Output Power: 50 Watts x 4
AUDIO FEATURES
- Attenuator with Smooth Volume Return
- Electronic Audio Control (Volume, Balance, Fader)
- Front/Rear Fader
- High-Pass Electronic Crossover: 100/125/170Hz/Through, 12dB/oct
- Loudness Control
- Low-Pass Electronic Crossover: 50/80/120Hz/Through, 12dB/oct
- Preouts: Front, Rear
- Selectable Rear/Non-Fading Preout
- Source Tone Memory
- System Q Sound Control: with User Memory
- Tone Controls: Bass, Midrange, Treble
COMPACT DISC FEATURES
- 0-Bit Mute: Independent Left & Right Channel
- CD Text
- Digital Filter: 8-Times Oversampling
- Digital Optimum Servo Control
- Digital to Analog Converter: Integrated Quad 1-Bit
- Intro Scan
- Play/Pause
- Plays MP3-Encoded CD-Rs and Conventional CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs
- Precision Digital Timing (DPAC)
- Random Play
- Repeat Play: Track, Disc
AMPLIFIER FEATURES
- MOSFET Power Amplifier IC
CHANGER CONTROL FEATURES
- CD Text Display
- Changer Control: 2, or 1 + Aux (with KCA-S210A or Compatible Changer)
- Kenwood Music Keg Ready
- Random Play: Disc, Magazine
- Repeat Play
- Scan: Track, Disc
TUNER FEATURES
- Automatic Memory Entry
- HD Radio Ready
- High-Speed Multipath Control (CRSC) with ANRC
- Kenwood CR-2 Advanced Tuner
- Seek Tuning
- SIRIUS Satellite Ready
- Station Presets: 24 (18FM, 6 AM)
INCLUDED ACCESSORIES
- Remote Control: Full-Function 10-Key, Grip-Type
OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES
- KPA-CP100 Compass
- KPA-HD100 Heads-Up Display
- KPA-SS100 Sensor Unit
- KTC-SR901 Sirius Satellite Radio Tuner
- KTC-WB100 Weather Band Tuner
As for doing it yourself, it's not the hardest job but it certainly isn't easy either. The dark grey panel that runs from the drivers side of the dash across the instrument panel and down to the ash tray needs to come out. Take out 4 screws, 2 around the ash tray and 2 above the instrument cluster, and then pop a bunch of clips... this is the hard part because it feels like you are going to break the plastic. You then have to disconnect the switches and fish the panel past the steering wheel. Then pop out the radio/pocket and figure out how to install the new radio with the existing brackets (not always easy depending on the radio). All in all I would say not an easy job for a novice...I was a stereo/alarm installer in a past life, so I was able to change the stereos in both my GT and GLS myself. If you've never done a stereo before, I say spend the $50 or so and have the pros do it.
http://www.spectravox.com/spectravox/xd6110.html
It does the job and they put it in for free as part of the deal.
I got my new 03 GLS in September with rebate for $12,150. With cruise control and mud guards.
ElantraSTan
I'm not trying to turn this into a car stereo message board, but I just wanted to caution you on the output power ratings on car stereos. When you see a rating higher than 10-15W x 4, then you are usually dealing with a MAX power rating. For example, my stereo is rated at 13W x 4 and 50W x 4 max. That means when needed (like low freq stuff), the internal amp is capable of supplying up to a 50W spike of power, but continuous output is less than 13Wx4. Of course the literature says my stereo is rated at 50Wx4. Dig deeper into the specs and you will see a much lower continuous power rating. Therefore your factory speakers should be safe no matter what the rating says. The quality of the output signal (which is harder to quantify) is more important than power output rating. A dirty signal (i.e. clipping) at low power will destroy a speaker faster than a clean signal at high power.
Moral of the story... don't let the sales guy push you into a speaker upgrade using the power rating. Try a quality head unit first and if still not happy then go for the speaker upgrade. Just trying to save you a little $$. Last note... the GT has 6 speakers where as the GLS has 4. I'm happy with the factory speaker sound in my GT, but I'm not sure if the lack of tweeters in the GLS will make yours sound that much less impressive. Good luck!
Just wanted to clarify - my '02 GLS has 6 speakers, not 4. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I beleive the standard stereo with casette player comes with 4 speaker system, and the optional stereo with CD player comes with 6 speaker system. This was the case for '02 anyway. Maybe Hyundai has changed that for '04 MY?
Correct me if I'm wrong in my thinking here but the altenator dying killed the battery, this should all be covered under warrenty and as for the $50 diagnosing fee??? WTF is that about?
sorry for the typos one handed, had hand surgery 2 weeks ago!
so, any thoughts?
Kristi
St Louis, MO
Its the $50 for diagnostic I have a problem with. Their diagnostic testing pointed them to a warranty item (alternator). If it had stopped there...no diagnostic charge. The fact that they found an O O Warranty item bad (battery) I'm sure is what gave them reason to charge the $50.
Hopefully, you used your credit card to pay for the repair and the shop is within 50 miles of your home. If so, and your dealer (like my dealer) is uncooperative honoring the cost of the diagnostic under warranty, contact your credit card co. and dispute the charge.
Try this on your Elantra to make sure it's not just me -- go 70 on the highway and shift into 3rd gear (this turns off overdrive). Try moving the steering wheel a little (maybe make a lane change or two) and compare that to how much easier the wheel moves when you have the car in normal Drive.
Is this torque steer in action, then? Is there anything related to tires or the suspension that could be causing this too?
Some of my other posts describe the hell I have been through with this peice of junk. It's been two years of in and out of the dealer shop, brake shops, tire shops etc. No solution exists for this problem other than getting a new car.
I have experienced every vibration that all of you have posted in this forum.
I have had problems with the air bag light coming on and off, its been off for a few weeks now, the same amount of time that the check engine light has been on. I have a popping sound in the radio that can only be heard when the radio is on with the volume off. I also have a problem with the door seals disentegrating, actually it looks like they are dissolving.
Yesterday, I finally reached a point of nearly explosive proportions when the vibrations got so bad I could barely hold the steering wheel.
I went home and pulled the front wheels and found the pads to be good, and the rotors glazed over to the point where they looked like mirrors. I could actually see myself in the reflection. I used emory cloth and removed the glazing from both sides of each rotor. The braking was smooth for about ten feet of braking. Also, the rotor vent area is like a solid peice of rust, so I have no choice but to buy new ones. These rotors look like they came from a junk yard, not from a new parts rack in a factory.
I would really like to find some Hyundai owners who would get together and launch a lawsuit against these people. Not only because of the vibration problems, but also because of their total lack of concern about the problem. They don't care, the dealers don't care. I have been all the way through the lemon law process here in florida, and that is also a joke. The Better Business Bureau provided the arbitrator, and he sided with Hyundai, after beleiving the likes and crap that the Hyundai Regional Mechanic told him.
I am willing to send copies of the ruling to any person who would like to use it for prosecution purposes. The fact is, the vibration problem will not be addressed by Hyundai, because they don't care.They just hide behind their legal talk, and their crappy ten year warranty. Read them closely, and you will find that they cover nothing. Unless you have a catastrophic failure of the motor, and you had all maintenance done on time and at Hyundai, it covers nothing.
I had a headlight that went out last week, and out of curosity i looked at the warranty, sure enough, its only covered for a year. My 96 grand am has never had a bulb replaced.Never had to put new rotors on it either, never had a severe or mild vibration problem and my kid has curbed it a few times. Hyundai is junk, junk, junk.
JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK
Thanks for listening
Yes, I think Hyundai should be slapped with a class-action lawsuit for the vibration issue. I bought the Elantra because it cost $2-3K less than a Civic or Corolla -- and although I figured I would have a few small issues to deal with because Hyundai is still smoothing out the rough edges, their response on this specific issue has been pretty much unexcusable -- and the time spent on fixing the problem plus the money that will be spent on new tires, balancing, etc means that the difference in cost is now less than that $2-3K that made the Elantra a tempting buy in the first place. I don't want to make money off of this, though -- I just want Hyundai to fix the problem and not charge me for it. I think that's fair enough.
The Elantra is far from being JUNK JUNK JUNK (like your posting says). The funny thing is that you mention that you had a 96 Grand Am as well -- and that's what I would call JUNK JUNK JUNK (at least after the first 85K or so)!
Looking at the reliability history for the Elantra in CR, the '01 model had some kind of suspension problem noted by between 2% and 5% of those who returned the survey. The '02 and '03 had suspension problems noted by 2% or less. I think suspension is the most likely category for the CR survey for this kind of problem. (The other possibility might be brakes, which has the same survey results as suspension.) So that means of all the Elantra owners who returned the survey, only 5% or less had some kind of suspension problem over the first three years of ownership on the '01s and less than 2% have a problem there on the '02s and '03s. How many of those were the wheel shimmy? No way to tell.
BTW, does anyone have a '04 Elantra that has exhibited the wheel vibration problem? There were many changes made for '04.
I guess the tires are the main suspect, as Hyundai switched from the Kumhos to the Michelins sometime before the 02's came out.
Then again, the Michelins are also a problem... and for some with the shimmy, any tire or even new wheels isn't fixing the shimmy.
So, a few observations -- first, some have a shimmy that can be fixed with new tires and/or wheels, but others may have something that is suspension-related (or maybe even powertrain-related). This is where the issue may be uncurable if Hyundai isn't willing to figure out what's causing the problem.
I think my shimmy can be fixed with new tires, but I don't want to take the plunge and find out that's not the case.
So, again... anyone with the shimmy issue needs to have the dealership swap tires and wheels with a shimmy-free Elantra to see if the problem goes away. If so, then that helps narrow down where the problem is. Granted, rebalancing should be tried first, but the vibration issue on the Elantra seems so common that maybe the swap should occur first. (That can be our new battle cry at the dealership -- "Swap first, balance later!")
Can someone tell me if the screw covers in the doors just pop off when pried, or do they need to be manipulated in some way first? I'm just cautious and don't want to break it if I check to see that the screws are tight.
Tires: When did the current-gen Elantra ever come with Kumho tires standard? My GLS was built in September '00 and has the Michelins. Also the brochures and ads at the time touted the Michelin tires. Could it be some dealers swapped out the Michelins for lower-priced Kumhos?
I was thinking about this and wondered if the brake rotors could be the problem on some of the other Elantras? There is a lot of weight in the rotors and I suppose a casting could be bad. Even if your wheels check out to be perfect and rotating the tires does not change the shimmy, I would think about replacing the rotors.
I am pretty sure it's just crappy tires on my Elantra, though, as the vibration happened right after rotation, and moving one of the tires to the back made the vibration change as well. In my case, the shimmy is pretty minor, and the worst it gets is when I moderately accelerate to get on the highway and level off at 65-70. The shimmy them goes away, occasionally coming back but not as bad.
I guess this means the tires on my car are "out of sync", right? Is it possible for this to happen even if the tire dealer says the tires are technically still within tolerances?
I guess there's one last thing we can try on our Elantras to rule out whether or not the problem is the wheels/tires or the powertrain. I guess if you go 70 or so and then put the car into neutral, the problem is probably mechanical if the shimmy goes away. If the shimmy is still there, then it's still probably a tire/wheel issue (not sure about it being a suspension issue, though). I just need to find the right road to do this on because you probably want to come to a complete stop before you switch the car back into drive, and a crowded highway may not be the best place to do this... (Before I do this, does anyone know if going into neutral in an automatic going 70 or so is ok?)
I have been trying to get this fixed since the day the bank bought it for me.
This is not the only problem with this car. It has also had speed sensors replaced. First only one, then I had to take it back because the correct repair for that problem is to replace two particular sensors at the same time, as they need to matched or something.
There have been several other problems, but when I think about them I just feel abused and violated.
Yesterday I put new tires on the car. Not Michelins though. They feel real nice, and the car handles fine. the vibration is still there. I found a lug nut that was installed crossthreaded. Back to the shop. They replaced the lug bolt and lug nut at no cost to me, but it cost them a bit at the Hyundai dealer. Something to think about isn't it. A simple lug bolt, commonly sold in auto parts stores, but the Hyundai bolt has to be special ordered, or purchased through the dealer.
This is how I justify calling this car junk,junk,junk.
I am very happy to hear that you have not had any problems like these with your car. good luck with it.
Have been looking for rotors for this thing and can only find them at dealers. Does anyone know of an aftermarket manufacturer for these rotors and drums?
Be careful, though. Many of the high performance and rain tires are unidirectional and will become very squirrely in the rain if rotating in the wrong direction. As if the tread pattern weren't enough of a giveaway, these tires will usually have an arrow on the sidewall indicating the correct direction of rotation.
Backy mentioned brakes..I had the rotors cut about a year ago..It was Hyndai's "first step" in ridding the car of the shimmy...Of course it didn't work and they charged me 150 bucks for the rotor cutting. The rotors seem a little warped again..My guess is, after this cut, they will need to be replaced..Someone was looking for an aftermarket supplier for rotors..I'd like to know one too..
I still love this little car.......Jack
I just bought a used Elantra and Im curious if anyone else has had any major issues with cracks in the manifold/exhaust pipes. I got a steal on this car and it seems to be in great condition other than this crack in the pipes. I did a search on yahoo to see if others had similiar problems and did find a few threads. So Im wondering just how big of a problem is this and once I get it fixed if its going to be a problem in the future.
Thanks for your replies,
Emmie