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Yugo. Are they the worst car of all time?
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The only car with a weaker AC that I've experienced is my buddies former '95 911. That thing couldn't blow out a match and never got cold.
lleroi, your posts are a bust up!!! LMAO!
But, most people in the UK just hated it.
As for the air con. If I’m not mistaken, it’s a Bosch system on the Scorpio and the Porsche.
Heck of a lot better than what they sold over here during that period!
Bill
Who has 3 PA Vauxhalls in Orlando
www.directautogroupllc.com/vauxhallpa
As for the site, its getting there, although I haven’t been able to do as much work on it latterly as I would like. I have a variety of items and projects to load up but the time just doesn’t seem to be there.
Took a look at your sight, nice cars, I like these Vauxhall models. Did you import them yourself? My next door neighbor had one a few years back (two-tone red & cream), unfortunately a drunk rear-ended it. He now has a 65 289 Mustang.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/5067/vwindex.html
Basically, the Audi 80 became the Fox in America and the Passat became the Dasher.
Back then, they were not particularly wonderful cars, typical "iffy" VW quality for the time. This era was not VWs high point.
1. 1975-81 Triumph TR7/8
2. 1971-73 Plymouth Cricket
3. 1987-91 Sterling 825/827
4. 1964-73 Saab 95/96
5. 1969-80 Saab 99
6. 1970-72 Audi Super 90 & 1970-77 100
7. Any Renault of the 1970s
8. 1976-80 Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare
9. 1980-85 GM X-bodied cars
10. 1981-83 Chrysler Imperial
What was wrong with the '81-83 Imperial? Aside from fuel injection problems, which caused a lot of people to switch to 2- or 4-bbl carbs, I don't think there was anything too bad with those cars. Well, aside from their miserable sales, that is!
As for the Saab 95/96, I just think they're bad cars because you just don't see them anymore, plus I've been told they don't have a good durability record when compared with, say, a '60s Mercedes or Porsche.
The Sterling really isn't just a disguised Accord. It's a disguised Accord built in the U.K. by blind people. It was a fairly troublesome car and had a lot of quality control issues. Maybe no one terrible thing, but a lot to worry about for the average driver who was expecting Accord reliability.
Andre, your comments on the Imperial are so "gearhead"....LOL! Spoken like a true car lover "Hey, aside from the minor point of having to remove your entire fuel injection system and install carburators.....doesn't everyone do that over the weekend?"
The ole British Bugbear. Sometimes I wonder why anyone let the Rover Group (ANd BL, BMC..etc..) near a wiring loom as they shoot..
What did they do soak them in salt water before they put em in the cars?
Shame really.. by the time the Rover 800s were "fixed" they had killed their name here and pulled out. The 93-94ish restyle of the car was particularly attractive IMO.
I picked one up for a friend of mine at the auction recently (He was hanging out with me there and said 'hey that looks cool'.. We saw a MINT Blue one, 120K or so on it, everything worked..etc.. Was an '89 827SL..
Cold AC..etc.. $500 across the block.
How ya gonna lose for that?
Bill
However, if your nerves are made of finely honed steel and ice water flows in your veins, you buy it for $500 and just drive it and when something big fails you just leave it by the side of the road and go get another $500 Sterling. My two cents.
British electronics...what were they thinking?
Well there's one thing I've been wondering,
And I know you'll wonder why.
That is: who will drive my Yugo when I die?
-Andrew L
"I have just one question, one thing I wanna know,
Would Jesus wear a Rolex on a television show?"
I don't think the song is a parody of anything; at least, I don't recognize the tune. It's called "My Bloody Yugo". I do recommend the CD for any car person with a sense of humor. There are quite a few really funny songs on it, including one about a Dodge Dart, which might appeal to you.
-Andrew L
Maybe, but I still see some Citations and Skylarks on the road, whereas I can't remember the last time I saw a running Yugo. I think the main problem with the X-cars was the defective power steering racks ("GM morning sickness"), which probably sent a lot of them to the junkyard prematurely when owners didn't want to pay for the repairs.
-Andrew L
Military Music
Running Yugo
I had actually forgotten haw offensive they were to the eye. Very long stretched looking doors for their size. I am glad they are gone.
The big surprise was the Buick Skylark. For some reason, the X-car stigma didn't seem to hurt its sales much, and even for 1985, it sold about 100,000 units. There was a couple of years that the Pontiac Phoenix offered a sporty coupe, I think it was called the SJ, that actually looked kinda sharp. Well, in my twisted reality, that is ;-)
And the X-body was with us, in spirit, up through 1996. The Celebrity/6000/Ciera/Century A-bodies were heavily based on the X-bodies. Basically just an X-body with more formal sheetmetal and a larger, longer trunk. The Celebrity and 6000 retired around 1989-90, but the Century/Ciera lasted right up through '96, and were still among Buick and Olds' best sellers.
-Andrew L
I think the key here may be the "driven by older people" part. The Skylarks probably just didn't get ragged out as badly as the other cars! In fact, they used to market it as "the Little Limousine", not exactly appealing to the younger set!
I loved that car: roomy, nice flat floor, no idiotic console,comfortable buckets, loads of room in the back seat [35.4 inches leg room], perfect size [176.7 inches]and the lines were nice.It had just been too abused to keep so I traded it for an 8 year old Calais with 21,000 miles [verifiable]with the same engine /trans combo.
It didn't ride as well, and wasn't nearly as quiet, but then the Calais was based on the J car and wasn't built with a sub frame/ engine cradle isolated from the body as the X and A cars did.
That Citation was a great combination of room, ride, economy, size and the quiet inside was eerie.It was one of the compelling reasons behind the Olds purchase and the subsequent purchase of my first new car: a 99 Cavalier 2 door: same size, weight, similar room as the Citation, even the shape is vaguely similar.
The X was a real shame execution-wise, but the concepts the industry learned from downsizing[efficient layout, small size, light weight plenty of head and leg room] seem to have been forgotten.Each generation of vehicle is larger than the next, heavier, wider. With the trend to Sedans and SUVs as regards to practical and versatile vehicles, you'd think that efficient packaging would be tops on the list rather than size. Compare: Malibu/Corsica, the first Mopar Mini-vans to the current non-mini vans, the 85 Cadillac DeVille and the current version.That they had to send to Germany for an entry level Cadillac the same size as the 85 Eldorado/Seville shows a little of the schizo personality of the industry.
The Fairmont in it's first year had an abysmal record. They sold approx.450,000 units in the first year and were recalled an outrageous nimber of times. Strange when it was so straight forward: Pinto 4, Falcon/Maverick 200 inch six,rear wheel drive, WHA Hoppen????Got to be right up there among the worst, at least for the first year.