2013 and Earlier - Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience

bobad

I'm not making judgements on the car itself, or the total cost of ownership... The Sonata may be the greatest car ever manufactured, but it doesn't hold it's value very well.

How do we know what 2006-2007 Sonata's will sell for 5 years down the road? All I have to go by is the fast-rising quality of Hyndai's, which is now in the same ballpark with Honda and Toyota. Forget about 1994 Hyundai's. This is 2006.

robchris

I realize some people buy a car so they can sell it. Others, and I am sure a very large number of people, buy a car to run it into the ground. Ergo, the current perception of Hyundai means zip. In ~~5-10 years with the quality now seen and value provided, Toyota & Honda will be having issues with people such as yourself as the market "perceives" Hyundais in a better light translating to better resale value. So the lesson seems to be, if you want to buy a car to sell it, today you should by a Honda or Toyota. For those who want to buy a car today and use it, give the Hyundai a go. Can't wait to pick mine up tomorrow. X-Camry owner...

Whatever you buy, I wish you all the best!

robchris

I owned a Volvo S80. Original MSRP was ~45k. I bought it once it was 5 years old for $20k. If I had not picked up the extended warranty, I would be bankrupt by now. More expensive cars definitely do not necessarily translate to better / more reliable cars. Look at all the issues Mercedes had over the past couple of years. Quality issues, making electronic modules work in synch killed their quality and reliabilty....just food for thought..

All the best,

robchris

Consider the hundreds of millions of $ the U.S. auto industry pays for advertisement. This most consider a smart us of their money. Isn't the 10year warranty doing the same thing - It's marketing. It's influencing perceptions. Once you see, feel, hear, read, drive the Hyundai, the impression is difficult to forget. The last place I thought I would like a car was in Hyundai. What had me in there was a recent car rental. It was ...shocking. Then to get a V6 for $17k with this quality ride, performance, and yes, warranties (10yr drive train; 5 year bumper to bumper, road side, etc, etc.). It just seems completely off base to consider the 10 year warranty a weakness. It is marketing pure and simple.

I just hope that Ford & GM can largely reduce their legacy costs so that they can provide the same type of overall quality product/service. The burden they have is so tremendous compared to these other companies. It almost forcest them to cut corners and the cost/quality/value disadvantage is too much right now.

robchris

Wow. Nice price. Won't tell the wife about that one... So much for me being the consumate negotiator... I am in the NY metro area. I wonder if that plays a part.

Did you buy it?

Thanks for the experience.

robchris

Give it time. If you were to invest money right now you would likely be more interested in an up and coming company that a well established one...Same goes for Hyundai.

Maybe you or your kids will someday have a handle along the lines "isellhyundais" All in jest but the point is the cars of last year and this year are not "your father's..." Hyundias.

As many of the positive Hyundai posters have stated, "Time will tell."

jlemoine

Hyundai, Toyota, Honda, Mazda, they all make decent cars!! Fact of the matter is most of independent surveys back me up about that. What it comes down to is personal taste and priorities. For some consumers it's brand loyalty for others it's overall cost. You'll never convince a new car owner that he or she bought the wrong car based on your's or my standard. For me I found the lower cost and longer warranty the main reason why I went with a Hyundai again, I'm extremely happy with my purchase and don't have any buyers remorse because I did my homework BEFORE I bought the car, not after. The only one any of us has to convince is ourselves and this great debate as to what brand is better will go on forever. That being said I think we can all agree if you didn't buy a Hyundai you got ripped off!!!

walt235

Well I guess that we'll be seeing what Hyundai (as well as every other manufacturer) is going to do with the rebates after today. Having work in car sales in the past, I always get the biggest chuckle out the dealerships and commercials pushing customers to hurry before the rebates end at the end of the month.

isellhondas

Hondas have a 5 year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty.

isellhondas

Well, good luck trying to get a private party to pay you retail book for a Korean car much less over book.

I suppose anything is possible...

bobad

I suppose anything is possible...

said the Honda salesman.

How surprising a Honda salesman would say that! (and why is a Honda salesman on a Hyundai thread?)

Re-think everything. It's not 1994 anymore. Honda is losing sales to Hyundai. Get over it. :sick:

cajuncycler

The threat is real and he knows it!

Every Hyundai sold is one less Honda or Toyota sold. The Honda dealer in my town is so smug they wouldn't even talk a deal less than sticker. I just grinned and walked away!

bobad

I walked away from Moss Motors too! They think their car's exhaust don't stink!

dcurran

I have a CD-R that has over 100 songs on it, all in MP3 format. The disk shows all the songs but the player, for some reason, can't find all the songs! What gives.
I have burned several times and the same things happens.
The CD-R is an 800mb Sony CD-R and should hold around 200 songs at 4mb/piece.

boloti_troy

Should it be 700Mb ?

cajuncycler

They may be right, after all they are HONDAs, BMWs and Mercedes!

isellhondas

Yeah, I'm really scared...not!

I do think it's amusing how far Hyundai went in their efforts to copy the looks of the Accord!

miamixt

We are in the wrong forum for this but different formats (MP3/WMA) and songs recorded at different sample rates seem to give this player gas. Plus 200 songs @ 4MB is 800MB, and most Discs only hold 700MB. And of course you want to allow room for the header & miscellanious data. Try limiting your discs to 650MB?

Also recording a Disc at the slowest write speed and lower/standard sampling rate might solve your problem :confuse: .

bobad

I do think it's amusing how far Hyundai went in their efforts to copy the looks of the Accord!

I get lots of compliments on my Sonata, but nobody has even mistaken it for an Accord. And, I'm glad!

sforesman

I think I did well with this deal, started off with four dealers whittled it down to two and finally ended up with:

Car: $17,226
Rebates: -$1900 (cash and grad)
Fees T&L: +$274
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$15,600 OTD (no tax here in NH)

Steel Grey, grey interior

bobad

Great deal, and great color!

dcurran

My mistake. It is a Sony 700mb CD-R. I am recording at the slowest speed. However, It still won't see all the songs.
Has anyone had this problem? Even if I could get 150 songs at 4mb/piece there should be plenty of room on the disc.

cajuncycler

I have yet to play an MP3 disk in my system. Normal audio CDs I have played that I have burned play well. I am a news radio guy so music for the most part ain't my thang. The number of files you have on the disk may simply exceed the player's ability to display the files and not prevent the songs from being playable.

bobad

I am a news radio guy so music for the most part ain't my thang

Same here (KPEL!) but my wife makes MP3 disks with 175-185 songs, and has no trouble at all.

cajuncycler

(Same here (KPEL!) but my wife makes MP3 disks with 175-185 songs, and has no trouble at all.)
Bobad yer scarin me now!

lanceq

Your purchase does sound good. Do all of the dealers have the rebates that you reference? Also did you get any options?
Thanks
lance

miamixt

If the Bit rate on one song is 56K, and another is 196K, the player gets touchy. Try burning one disc as all MP3s, and all at the same rate (try 56K although I prefer a higher rate). Burn at 1 or 2 times write speed. (You should find all these options under settings). I just made a Disc that way and it sounds great. The last 10 I have made are somewhat useless!

gmctruck

Why is this topic being discussed here? It has nothing to do with "Prices Paid & Buying Experience" and should be moved to the "Problems & Solutions" forum. I'm not picking on anyone in particular, but this topic should be discussed in the proper forum.

miamixt

Prices paid for the MP3 Player $550

Buying Experience. Its weird, does strange things. Let me tell you all about it... :surprise:

w9cw

I own a Honda and a Hyundai, but seriously try to be objective on both. Perhaps someone should take the handle "isellhyundais" and continually post negative things in the Honda forums??

Speaking from experience with Hondas since 1973, they're not perfect by far - very good, but certainly not perfect. The current crop of Hyundai products are also very good, but also not perfect.

Honda, Nissan, and Toyota salespersons need to understand that today's Hyundai is not the Hyundai of old. Neither is today's Honda, Nissan, and Toyota similar to their older models which had their share of problems as well. It's rather funny that a person would say a Korean manufacturer is copying their product, as the Japanese manufacturers (autos, electronics, cameras, etc.) originally copied others' designs. The Korean's are simply using the same Japanese business model!

BTW . . . I was quoted $15,700 for a 2006 Sonata GLS V6 automatic w/o sunroof - includes available rebates. This sounds like a very reasonable deal to me.

kaiser2

I am looking for a GLS I4 Automatic Trans. I just compared the rebates posted on Hyundai website today. There is a $500 rebate offered on the 2007 GLS Auto, now. I guess the prices of comparatively equipped 2007 will be very close to the 2006 GLS Automatic as the invoice of the 2006 model is about $800 more than the 2007 Model. So even with the $1500 rebate on the 2006 GLS, the real difference is just $200. I know the 2006 is better equipped (Premium cloth, Fog lams, Alloy Wheels etc), but I am thinking if it makes sense to buy a car which has already depreciated by one year, also I can get power seats and emergency brake assist on the 2007 Model (both not avail in 2006)? Wonder if the dealers might give better prices on the 2006 Models, there are quite a few still available where I live.

jden

Looking at purchasing the 2007 GLS (auto) with premium sports package. According to Edmunds, the invoice is $19,238. There is currently a $500 rebate on the GLS 07's. What is a good price I should offer to the dealer for this car. Also the car is in transit to the dealer from Alabama. I don't know if this is a good thing or not, since they know this is the only car I am looking for. Any words of advice would be greatly appreciated.

gmctruck

I can't really advise you too much on price, but the car you're looking at is a nice ride for the money. You should get price quotes from several dealers and not just one..... easy to do on the internet. I'm holding off buying the car because I think the best deals are yet to come once all the '06 models are gone.

gmctruck

As you have pretty much stated, there is no such thing as a perfect car. Cars are electro-mechanical machines and there will be problems at some point no matter who builds the machine. When you really think about it, it's amazing that cars hold up as well as they do given the use and abuse that they take every day. People seem to forget that a car is just a mechanical machine with thousands of working parts! BTW.... the price quote you got isn't bad at all!

bhmr59

I think you're right about the pricing deals on the '07's. I expect rebates on the '07's to increase in a couple of months.

amao

Is it possible to get the car for $18500 OTD? Anybody can gives their experience with the dealerships in the area? How about Burns Hyundai?

perma88

In May I offer $18300 for 06 LX base trim at Burns Hyundai and salesman laugh at me. Went to anther dealer in NE Philly and they galdly accepted my offer of $18310 (10 for temp tag). Regestered in Jersey and with TTL all together $19600. A week ago brought my vehicle for oil change and saw the same salesman at Burns Hyundai. He said he couldn't matched the deal i got. In fact he said people are paying more now for 06 model becasue the higher rebate offer and they can't sell enough of 06 model.

bhmr59

Sounds like another salesman spouting a line of bull. Perhaps he's upset that you bought elsewhere.

If the rebates are higher now, why would anyone pay more now than what the price was in May? That defies logic.

Is he selling to "patsy's" who pay full MSRP minus only the rebate?

perma88

I interpreted as the higher rebate compare to 07 limted model (2500 to 1000). Both 06 & 07 basically the same car and that's why most consumer would buy a 06 model instead and still saves more even if dealer is asking more what they sell for in May. Guess it's supply and demand issues.
You are right that salesman is upset that i got my LX somewhere else but who cares. My old man used to tell me that when people start to [non-permissible content removed] and moan about how frugal you are usually thats when your pocket to get heavy!!!!!!!!!

bhmr59

Sorry if I misunderstood. I thought you were saying they were selling '06's for a higher price now than they were in May.

Sure, he can't match your deal now. But you deal was for an '06, not an '07. Either way, I'd remember that salesman, just like I'll remember the local guy, not necessarily the dealership. I bought out of state and saved about $1500 after considering all travel expenses, including air fare, gas & overnight in a motel.

The local dealership, however, has been fine in the 3K & 6K maintenance. Time to make an appointment for the 9K, as I now have about 9200 miles.

amao

perma, thanks for the reply. But I have couple questions though: Which NE Philly dealership did you go to? With the current $2500 rebate and car depreciation, is the $18500 OTD (including tax) price reasonable considering you paid $19600 in May?

Everybody's input is greatly appreciated.

racingdude83

Hi miamixt,

Where did you buy your sonata?, I am looking for Sonata LX in dallas and the best price I was offered so far is $20,300+TTL. can you please send me the dealer details. Thank you.

racingdude83

Can you plelase tell me who the dealer is?. I am currently looking for a 06 LX in dallas and the best price I was offered so far was $20,300 + TTL. my e-mail is in my profile. Thank You.

smass

Hi all. This is my first post. I am currently shopping for a 2007 Sonata Limited w/ultimate package. Here is the breakdown:

MSRP $25,345
Invoice $23,227
less rebate $1000
= $22,227

I got a first offer from a dealer of $22,900

What should I shoot for? What's realistic?

Thanks!

cajuncycler

Realistically you should be able to get the car for under twenty grand. Later in the year you'd probably save an additional $2,500. Realistically.

miamixt

Sure, Potamkin South Hyundai in Miami. They even have a Website http://www.worldslargesthyundaidealer.com/ because they are on a giant piece of land. I did just notice checking the site they have a Store in Houston. However be careful of anything associated with the Potamkin name. My Deal was a total mistake, and I think about it every time I start the Car. I didn't pay what I should have, and at first they tried to take advantage of me. Would you believe?. :shades:

perma88

amao, regarding the price, to be realistically i don't think you could get it for 18500 OTD (including tax) and dont' forget that there is additional 1% (now 7%) sales tax since jersey's budget crisis. I suggest any price of 18000 - 18500 before tax is good price IMHO.
There is also another problem with the limited supply of 06 model since most of them are sold the past two months particularly the LX trim. I had checked dealer's inventory on line and noticed there aren't to many left on their inventory list. Although a lot of 07 model! If you must have certain exterior color good luck on finding it with the right price. Dont' be surprised on settling for a different color with a fair deal.
I got my LX from Northeast Auto outlet on Grant Ave and I checked the website a week ago and they only have 2 to 3 LX left. Your strategy now is to check tri-state dealer to see who has the car you want and negotiate with them.....
Email me off board if you need more info.
Good luck

racingdude83

miamixt,

what do you mean by mistake?, did they make a mistake and sell it you cheaper than they should have?.

drajkuma

What would be a reasonable cost for a 2007 GLS-I4 (Golden Beige color) with Premium Sport package. FWIW, I live in PA and Edmunds's dealer invoice lists it at 19238 + TTL

Is anyone here willing to share comments on this car, particularly the 4 cylinder, regarding performance, noise/vibration/harshness, or other issues? How are the alloy wheels, cooling effectiveness, comfort of seats, etc? Are mats included? If so, are they carpeted or All-weather?

I had but a brief spin and the initial feelings are all positive. But I'm still going about this with a great deal of trepidation. All comments are welcome.

backy

FYI, all GLSes for '07 are I4s. I found the I4 Sonata has plenty of pep. Unless you are used to a 200+ hp V6, you will probably find the I4 is quick enough. The V6 is a little smoother than the I4, but NVH on the I4 was fine. The alloys for '07 are the 5-spoke 17" wheels--they are very sharp I think, albeit a little firmer riding than the 16" wheels. A/C works well, and coped fine with 100-degree weather in south Texas in June. On the seats, I like the power seat better than the manual one--but if you get the Premium Sport pacakge you will get the power seat. Mats are optional for '07, I think they are $85. They are carpeted.

You should take the car for a longer test drive (maybe even rent one for a weekend; Hertz et. al. has '07 Sonatas) to make sure this is the right car for you, and that the power, NVH, A/C, seats etc. are acceptable to you.