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I was thinking (what a shock...) I could buy a compaq ipaq handheld computer and add a gps recever for 300 bucks (on top of 500 for the pc so $800 total) and it will be a computer with mapping plus gps and other functions,..... so if I can do that why the hell cant nissan offer just a gps unit for less then 800...it dosent make sence...why do they cost so much from all auto manufacturers...
rumored and version are key words here. First of all, I think Nissan doesnt want to stray from the inline 6 approach that has made the skyline what it is. Second, I would highly doubt that Nissan engineers would just slap on a turbo like someone would do in the aftermarket. Expect high levels of modifications to the VQ if it ever does get turbos.
http://www.freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/skyline/r35.html
and they talk about two possible engines, a turbo VQ or a V8. Granted, Freshalloy is not ALWAYS right, but most of the time they are right on. Nissan is claiming 400hp for the GT-R so the engine better be big, or blown. I think Freshalloy is on the right track.
Its not like you can just go out and turbo your car cause its the "same engine series" and theres a factory car with a turbo.
Good luck to that first dealership, but I guess there are probably enough fools around to actually buy one at that price.
Actually, I'm suspecting the Japanese dealer in the article "Confessions of a Car Salesman" (http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html) is this dealer, their office has the same setting as described.
At last, we got the Altima from Nissan in El Monte.
Nissan Concord was suggesting like 10 K over MSRP.
Sorry, I think you've got me confused with novcenthusiast. He was the one checking 350Z pricing.
novcenthusiast -
I'm in the Bay Area, too, and was thinking about putting a deposit down on the 350Z as well. Just bought a car about a month ago, though, so not sure yet. Do you know if the deposit's fully refundable?
I am sure after some tweeking, we all can get less than 10 secs.... just like the 10 sec car in Fast and Furious!
I'm going to reserve judgement until I know how much this car weighs. If it's over 3200lbs, it gets crossed off the list.
I just put down a deposit but I haven't decided if I will order yet or not. One I'd like to be able to sit in it and determine if it's comfortable. Two, don't know if I can wait 'til September to buy a car.
Oh and it's McKevitt Nissan in Berkeley. Counting my deposit (I have to decide by Sat.) there is only 1 pre-order slot left. But maybe 2 after Saturday.
and i'll take one of those Honda Dualnote girls please.. 8-D
IF SOME DEALER IS GOING TO SELL YOU A 350Z FOR MSRP YOU HAD BETTER GO GET IT NOW!!!!!
THIS CAR WILL SELL AS FAST WE GET A SHIPPER.
I LOVE SELLING CARS TO GUYS LIKE YOU BECAUSE THIS IS THE CAR I CAN MAKE UP FOR THE TIME WASTED ON YOU. LOL
ENJOY BUYING YOUR "Z"
P.S. just j/k hehehe
I'd be looking at the z-car about 3 months after intro and if the price is sticker I'll consider it. If not, I have numerous other choices.
What I don't like about the new Z pricing is that you have to upgrade to 4 model levels to get leather seats!! What's up with that?!!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Heck, arrange the purchase, fly out, enjoy the sun and then drive home in your new Z.
Just a thought. And no, I do not work for them in any capacity.
S2000 lbs/hp = 2810/240 = 11.7
S2000 quarter mi (7 magazines) = 14.1, 14.6, 13.8, 13.8, 14.5, 14.4, 14.0
www.autosite.com
I bet it will be more like high 13's in the 1/4mi
To put this in perspective a normal vette does it in 13.2-13.4s
The late viper (not the new model) could do it in 12.1-12.3s
A new Porsche 911Turbo can do it in about 12-12.4s
The new M3 13.2-13.7
The WRX: 14.2,14.9,14.1,14.4,14.7
A toyota celica GTS: 15.4-15.8
A toyota sieanna minnivan: 17.2-17.7
- In Ohio, quotas for 350Z for individual dealers vary (based on past nissan sales). Large dealers such as (ricart) could have 9 spots or small dealers such as (taylor) could have 1-2 spots.
ALL SPOTS HAVE BEEN SPOKEN FOR. no more pre-orders!
- According to the memo sent out from Nissan North America, Inc to all dealers, ".... These vehicles are scheduled to be built during June-July-August and will arrive at your dealership during the three month period August-Spetember-October. As outlined in the program overview, pre-sold orders will recieve priority for production and shipping."
- Honda's similar marketing strategy worked just like that for S2000. Pre-orders were sold and waiting period for S2000 ran about 1-1/3 years.
So guys, If you think you outa have it, dont waste time right now. I havent seen any dealer is running more over MSRP.
The Honda came out in October of '99. I had little trouble finding the exact color combination that I wanted in February of 2000 (that's about 5 months if you're having trouble with the math). I paid MSRP. And I didn't wait in any line.
The going price of the new Z will be below list within 3 months, tops. The only people that will pay more will be the "gotta haves" and the fools.
All I know is that in my zip code, there will be only 2 350Z for this year.
I agree, that car should not be sold beyond MSRP. On top of that, I dont see myself spending 40 grand just for a "nissan". At this price range, I have a lot better options!
My local dealer only asks for MSRP. What was your MSRP for S2000 back in Feb?
2/15/2000 - $32,400 (MSRP including destination) tack on some acessories (way-cool black chrome badges, rear spoiler, windscreen & floormats), and the total was a touch over $33k. It helps to buy convertibles during snowstorms. ;o)
As to the Z, yes there is plenty of competition out there - one of several reasons that will cause the price to drop rapidly once the first wave of impatient/foolish buyers is satisfied.
And for the record, I don't begrudge car dealers any ADM that they try to charge. It's all part of the great game of capitalism! You wanna buy something cheap? Pick something that is either in low demand (like a Prelude), or is in plentiful supply (mid-range sports cars as a group).
If 1% people want to have this car again, that is 10,000 people!
Supra was pretty expensive when they came out but price went down after some times... but still hard to find twin turbo on sale these days.
And although automatics are often more expensive than manual transmissions, that's not always the case, especially with 6-speeds. BMW 540i is a case in point.
But I think everyone's right. There's going to be a bunch of cars to chose from, with a soft economy on top of that.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Nissan wants (i.e. needs) to make a profit on the new Z. Yet its price starts at roughly $6,000 less than a Honda S2000 and a fully loaded one is about the same. On the other hand, Honda doesn't need to make a profit on the S2000 and, by some accounts, would need to sell the car for close to $40,000 (i.e. Boxter territory) to recoup all of its development expenses (and Honda is a more efficient producer than Nissan).
All of this leads me to believe that the only way Nissan is going to achieve their needed profit is through significant economies of scale, coupled with a lot of value engineering. Perhaps they can pull it off. But, beware, it's unlikely that the 350Z will offer either the exclusivity or engineering features of some of its targeted competitors.
Had Nissan come out with one or two models in the $35k+/- price range, I'd have more confidence in the product meeting my expectations and desires.