Mazda6 Sedan

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  • bostongiobostongio Member Posts: 52
    I test drove a 6s on Friday and was suitably impressed. The sales guy knew about the car and went through the laundry list of its highlights, but tried telling me that the 6s on his lot was one with a PIO sports package. No 17" wheels nor cool gauges, but with the ground fx, so I'm not sure where he was coming from (looked and sounded like the appearance package to me).

    It drove very smoothly except for a rattle in the engine compartment at high RPMs (I assume something easily fixable). As others have noted, this car sticks to the road like no car I've ever been in (can't even compare to any econobox out there, or, I would argue, the Camrys or Accords). Silky smooth handling, very nice, linear engine power. All in all, I enjoyed the test drive and after another, I have no doubt I'll be a 6s buyer when the hatchback is available.

    The salesguy told me that some of their customers who custom ordered cars back in November still never had their orders filled. Interesting, that. Is that the fault of the dealer, Mazda NA, or...?
  • chicagoprochicagopro Member Posts: 1,009
    Mine is Mazda/Honda/Hyundai/Buick/Pontiac/Ford.
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    Nice of you to remember me. I picked up my 6s the first week in May. I signed off of the Protege' thread a few days later. Lot's of warm wishes. I still check it almost every day. I miss it. Lot's of super people over there.

    Lot's of great people here also.

    I went with a Steel Grey Auto. Side/Curtain air bags, Sport Grill, rear Stone Guards, and Wheel Locks. No Sport Package. I was the first test drive. It was built in 3/03, and had only been on the lot a few weeks. I lucked out. I was nervous about only finding autos with lot's of test drive miles.

    It reminds me allot of my Pro ES. Much smoother, and more refined, but still on rails. No more MT , but the 5-Speed AT with the Manu-Matic feature can be entertaining at times. Every place I go, someone will come over to see it. Just turned 1,000 miles. Not a single issue, or noise. My combined 60/40 Hwy/City has been around 22 mpg. We are taking it on a trip in late June, it should be interesting to see how the MPG stacks up against our 02 MPV.

    Take care,
    Mark. : )
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    I know it seems odd to see a Honda dealer like that. It is actually an Auto Mall. They are starting to be a big item up here. This one has Honda, GMC, Chevy, Toyota, Subaru, all along a street front. They park all the vehicles in the back lot. It is a HUGE lot. It is so irritating when you go back there. They swarm all over you until you end up with someone from the make you are interested in. I can't stand it.

    Mark.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Ya think????? That's cheep.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    "how do you know about all rentals being 4 cyl?"

    I rent quite a few cars. Generally, if a 4cyl is available in a model, most rentals will be that. All the rental Accords and Altimas I have ever seen in rental fleets have been 4cyl models. There are exceptions in the "cheaper" 6cyl cars, like the Alero and Grand Am, but you can bet the rental MZ6 will almost always be a 4cyl.
  • alternatoralternator Member Posts: 629
    Is it animal, vegetable or mineral? Is it English or Japanese? Can't be found in Webster.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Lexus/Chevrolet, Mazda/Toyota/Dodge, Pontiac/Cadillac, Oldsmobile/Cadillac, Ford/Chrysler/Dodge and Jeep/Chevrolet/Mitsubishi/Hyundai.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    I was going by the Pizza Hut and sitting at a traffic light today and I was looking towards the Pizza Hit Parking Lot and I saw a blue 6 with a spoiler: very sweet looking. I also saw a 6 this weekend although I can't describe the color of the car. I saw 1 6 last weekend too. I have seen about 19 of them now. I have seen alot of Nissan Murano's frequently now. Its a nice car to look at(well both the Murano and the 6.)
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Alternator, Sepang is an F-1 racing circuit or track in Malaysia, opened last year I believe.

    fowler3
  • skibry1skibry1 Member Posts: 174
    A track in southeast Asia...whats wrong with Crayola's box of 64...have they all been used?
    Our DoubleOught 626 is Freeport...a very pretty
    green also. Will Crayola have to make an even larger box now?!?
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    But BMW made them move their dealership to another location, away from their other dealerships (Chevrolet, Chrysler, Saturn). Guess the Mazdas were lookin' too good parked right next to those BMWs. :)
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    $14,800 for a 6 in ANY trim is an absolute steal. If I didn't have one already I'd seriously consider digging one of those up and buying it. Saving nearly ten THOUSAND dollars (compared to what I got) would get my attention, no matter what options I wanted.

    And with the I4, the manual tranny would be an asset - Stretch can tell you how much fun that car is.

    You can barely get a Dodge Stratus for that - and that car doesn't hold a candle to the 6.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Someone set your car on fire?? My Gosh!
    I wouldn't worry about what your next car will be, I'd worry about moving!
    Our next door neighbor's dog barked from 4:30 a.m. this morning until I just couldn't stand it anymore (and took a shower)... and I was thinking my neighborhood was a "[non-permissible content removed]"...
    But nobody's car is on fire.

    Okay, question. If your car burned up today, what would you buy tomorrow? No shopping, no test drives, just get out and buy. What would it be? And if you already have a M6 and it's smoldering... would you run right out and buy another?

    I think I would. Probably for sure. If I could get a bit more money together, I would seriously consider a Murano. My brother has one and I just love the thing.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    If my car burned up I would want another one just like it except maybe we would be able to find a silver one this time. However, since we are beginning to realize the benefits of being homeowners with a truck I might have to buy an Element, Tacoma, or F150-ish type thing.
  • microrepairmicrorepair Member Posts: 508
    I had said that the Accura dealer was also Kia. I was wrong; they are Accura and Hyundai..

    There is a Mercedes/BMW/Audi dealer nearby and last year they added... NOPE, not VW !! Jaguar!
  • microrepairmicrorepair Member Posts: 508
    I haven't seen even ONE on the roads around here yet... Central Massachusetts.. And we do have Mazda dealers, two within a 15 mile radius... Owners must be keeping them in their garages during all this foul spring weather we've been having; 6 straight days of rain with another 4-5 days of rain being forecast.. YUK!!!
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Since I am in that position right now, I have to wait to see if it's totalled first. The body shop guy said it still stunk like burning plastic, and it has sat outside with a window broken for 3 days now (since Friday).

    I wouldn't buy another Jetta, simply because maintenance is a pain and expensive and I plan to go back to school soon. Will probably end up with a cheap used car, and go from there.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    You HAVE to tell us.

    Why/How was your car on fire???

    A friend just bought a used Audi A4 1998 for $14,000... Best part was it only has 60,000 miles on it.

    and it's a beautiful royal blue color. I say he got a great deal. (1998 was pre-ignition coil problems).
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    Someone broke a window and threw something inside that was on fire. That's what the cop said anyway on Friday when he came. 'Malicious burning' is what he wrote it up as. Just being smart, nasty little kids.

    Someone's car about 3 blocks from me was stolen, stripped, and burned about a month or so ago. It seems a popular fad around the area now. Since I had a theft alarm, I think they knew it and got mad, hence the burning.

    There are pics in the Jetta discussion if anyone cares to see.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    That makes my neighbor's barking dog just a model citizen doesn't it?

    Sorry pal. That's terrible. It's your property and (at the risk of sounding very old) it sucks the way some "people" , "kids" are raised these days.

    sigh...
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Paul, rather than repeating this conversation in SO many discussions all over the Town Hall, let's invite folks to join you here: Volkswagen Jetta.

    Good luck - I really hope things work out for the best for you. Keep us posted. Um, in the Jetta discussion of course. ;-)
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    Bright red or yellow. :)

    Then I'd upgrade the head unit and speakers. Boom boom with my zoom zoom, y'know. ;)

    Paul, sorry about your poor Jetta. Some folks have nothing else to do but destroy stuff or harass other people. They're just that way by nature, unfortunately.
  • ron825ron825 Member Posts: 4
    Hey guys, its first time i've been here since 2001. Anyways, I was in that mazda event this weekend in charlotte while visiting a friend. It rained, but i got to really tear up the 6 on their timed course. The car they put out was a 6s with auto and Falken racing tires. It drove a hell of a lot better than my civic around the slalom and high speed turns and felt lighter than my friends Maxima SE (i also tried out a miata on another course, and i have a newfound respect for its squirtyness).

    I already liked the style but I was even more impressed with the 6's performance in the event. I'd definitely recommend this to anyone who are indifferent towards a camry/accord/blah sedan.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    Those of you who live in the Connecticut, Mass, Metro ny, Albany, southern NH,VT and would like to attend VIP day at the Mazda Rev it Up Event let me know and I will get you on the guest list. You will experience the Mazda6 and a host of other features. Your driving skills will be put to the test and you will get a chance to really "drive" the MZ6 in a track type experience....You can also see some new exciting mazda products like the RX-8.

    This is VIP day and you will not be charged the $39 fee. This is free for any of my VIP guest.

    The Events are on July 11 2003 in Elmont, NY @ Belmont Park or Aug. 1 2003 @ Gillette stadium in Foxborough, MA......

    You can see exactly what your going to do at the driving event by clicking the Rev It Up link at Mazdausa.com

    Just Email me your name, address, phone number, email address and the type of car you have now. I will put your name on the VIP guest list and you will be contacted by Mazda with your complete details in a few weeks.....If you want to go I need your names ASAP

    Rich
  • ashboogs1ashboogs1 Member Posts: 3
    Where can I rent a Mazda 6?? I live in the NYC area? I have test drove the 6I and the 6S and would love to rent either one for week for a full test drive.
    Hertz was not helpful at all in telling me what locations have the Mazda 6 in their rental fleet
  • sarahmazdasarahmazda Member Posts: 27
    For you enthusiats, NHTSA just released crash tests for the 2003 Mazda6:

    Perfect 5 star ratings driver and front-seat passenger ratings.

    This means that there is a 10 percent or less chance or a series injury in a 35-mph frontal crash!
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I saw one a few weeks ago at a Hertz Local Edition. There are hundreds of them and if you call them direct, they can tell you exactly what's in their specific fleet.

    Since cars move around, it's hard for someone at the toll-free number to tell you exactly where to go to rent a 6.
  • 1wiseguy1wiseguy Member Posts: 120
    Actually, the 03s were never sold here. I took delivery of my Metallic Silver 2004 6 cyl GS with GFX Friday May 23rd. Didn't drive much the first day (it was game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals between Ottawa and New Jersey, after all) but since the good guys lost, I'll have lots of time to focus on driving and can forget about hockey for another 6 months. I've seen a few M6's in Ottawa so far but not that many.
  • accord7accord7 Member Posts: 96
    Has anyone asked Mazda public relations about what exactly is Ford in the V6? The block I'm aware of, but I believe there are other Ford parts as well. A car salesman told me the engine was 60/40, meaning 60% Mazda, 40% Ford. Does that sound right? It's tough to really get the specifics on this subject.
  • ruefusruefus Member Posts: 254
    I'm sorry - this topic has been beaten to death as if it's some blasted conspiracy. WHO CARES? The original Duratec is pretty much stone reliable - so if it's 60/40, 50/50 or 80/20, it IS a quality powerplant that when taken care of will outlast your willingness to drive it.

    You can't get a straight answer most likely 'cause no one really cares. Assume the block, crank and pistons are all Ford, the balance is Mazda. SO?!?! The original Taurus SHO used a Yamaha engine if I'm not mistaken. SO?!?!

    From Car & Driver:

    "Our flagship 6 s's 3.0-liter V-6 was born in America as the Duratec but schooled in Japan, where Mazda ginned up new cylinder heads with continuously variable intake-valve timing and swirl-inducing vanes cast in the intake runners. The pistons compress air and regular unleaded down at a 10.0:1 ratio. The cam covers are magnesium, and all accessories bolt directly to the aluminum block to quell the vibes."

    And most importantly:

    "Here's what you need to know about the Mazda 6 s. It's nearly as comfortable and practical as the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, it'll probably be as reliable, and it's priced right on top of the family-sedan sales leaders. But with the 6, you get zip. You get some style, too, and it's loads more fun than the other two."
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    Don't let them get to you. We know what we have, and what they wish they could come close to.

      Mark. : )
  • accord7accord7 Member Posts: 96
    My wife had a Ford Escort years ago. One day the engine fell apart and two different mechanics had trouble fixing it. It never ran well again. I haven't been fond of Ford since that time and that is why I ask these questions. I really like the 6, I'm just being cautious from experience.
  • scottdudescottdude Member Posts: 177
    1. Does anyone know if I can have my dealer install the upgraded Bose stereo on any Mazda 6? I got the impression from reading elsewhere that you can only get this with the "sport package".

    2. Does the Bose stereo playback MP3's on a CD-R?
  • mjvchicagomjvchicago Member Posts: 149
    Without gettting into a HUGE Ford bashathon, I want to say that I was a GM man until my Corvette, then my Grand Am failed miserably on me. My wife also has an Escort, 1992 with 120k miles on it. Runs like a dream and was in the shop once in 11 years to have the door hinges or something looked at.

    But like many people have said before, lemons happen. Even Mercedes has lemons. Best anyone can do is pick a car they really like and enjoy driving that has a decent track record for reliability and hope that the line workers were not recovering from hangovers when you car went by them!

    1700 miles on my MZ6 and it's like a rock... wait a minute, that's Chevy's line!
  • sjg35sjg35 Member Posts: 18
    scottdude, i asked same ? of salesman this past weekend. no, bose is factory installed and cannot be done by dealer. he was a little interested though in wondering if the head unit or at least the 6cd changer was the same since it didn't have a visible bose trademark as the speakers do.
  • stew941stew941 Member Posts: 4
    I ordered a 6s 2 months ago and won't get it for another 2 months. I have a few options:
    1) Wait for my car
    2) Get my downpayment back and wait for 2004's or buy another car
    or
    3) Get a steel gray one that the dealer has on the lot for invoice. It doesn't have the sports package but has the appearence package and lots of extras, so the difference would be the red illumination lights, the gray leather instead of the black leather, and the 16 inch wheels instead of the 17s.

    You guys have the 6s in your garage so what do you guys think?
  • mjvchicagomjvchicago Member Posts: 149
    Well you have some hard thinking to do. I don't know what your exact situation is outside of ordering the car, but I had my old car sell unexpectedly out from under me and was without a car for 24 hours and was chomping at the bit. I knew I could order and wait a few months, but that just wouldn't do since I need a car for my work commute.

    My suggestion is to try looking a little harder for a 2003 you'll like. I personally think the sport package makes the car much more handsome and aggressive looking so my vote is to stick with it. Also, I don't think you'll have much pricing leverage with your dealer (it's not their problem your order is taking so long) so shopping around may give you some unexpected leverage later. My rationale is that if you spend even a month locating the car you want, you're still ahead, and may get the dealers in some kind of pricing battle.

    Oh, and if it wasn't clear in the above, get the 6 and nothing else!
  • stew941stew941 Member Posts: 4
    I know the sports package makes the car and I've been looking for the one I've wanted for a couple of months, to no avail. Honestly the one the guy has sitting on the lot is a whole lot better looking than the one I ordered, on the outside anyway. This one has the sports grill on it. I may be wrong hopefully you can correct me, but aren't the fog lights with the sports package different from the fog lights that are a seperate option?
  • alcjewalcjew Member Posts: 173
    Rich(audia8q): I'll e-mail you my info to sign up for VIP day. I'm signed up for July 12th at Foxboro. Also, you have the VIP dates and cities reversed.
  • aromasaromas Member Posts: 314
    I finished a round of golf today and I'm driving home and I glance to see what time it was and to my chagrin there was no time. The whole display was blank and I couldn't turn on the radio and pressed every button imaginable but no display. Pulled over, restarted the car and everything was back to normal. Has this happened to anybody else? I'm not an electronics whiz so no clue what happened. My 6 behaved normally the rest of the day though so hopefully it was a one time thing.
  • clone2clone2 Member Posts: 6
    Ordered my 6s, loaded, 6 wksago and dealer told me 8-10 weeks, which is long enough to keep on driving my saturn, but now they're saying another 12 weeks (end of August). Am I getting pushed down or is anyone else getting the same estimates?
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    **I may be wrong hopefully you can correct me, but arent the fog lights with the sports package different from the fog lights that are a seperate option?**

    Yes, the fog lights on the Sports Package cars are between the haed lights, the dealer or factory installed fog lights on regular 6es are in the bumper grille openings each side.

    About MP3, somebody on here ordered the MP3 player for their 6 and it replaces the CD changer if it is the Bose. Otherwise, it replaces the single disc player, which does not play MP3s.

    It may be that the head unit used in the 6i is standard on both the i and s, and only the speakers and 6-CD changer are the upgrades. But the lack of power reported by some test drivers and owners for the 6i unit suggests a more powerful head unit for the Bose.

    On the Protegés, the CD players do not play CD-Rs.

    Renting a 6 from Hertz for even a weekend (lower rates) would be a great way to test-drive one if you rent before too many drivers get a hold of them. ;)

    I saw two MZ6i today, both white, and a Steel Grey 6i yesterday. The white doesn't look as good on the street as the metallic colors do. White doesn't reflect light well, the car's curves and wheel arches don't stand out -- it makes the back end look like too much sheet metal and bumper cap and the taillamps look smaller than they are. One of the white 6es had the dealer installed GFX package, no spoiler. Odd looking to say the least.

    For after-market leather check out http://www.classicsofttrim.com they have many colors to choose from including perfed seats and backs with plain bolsters. Trim shops are licensed to install them. You can check for your state on the web site. It's strange that NC doesn't have a single trim shop using Classic Soft Trim, considering all the exotic cars I see here.

    fowler3
  • markjennmarkjenn Member Posts: 1,142
    What are Mazda and/or the dealers saying is the reason it is taking 4+ months to deliver an ordered car?

    With BMW, you can order a car and have it shipped from Germany in about 7-weeks, sometimes quicker if they can grab an allocation about to hit production. This includes 3 weeks on a boat. Mazda 6's are made in Michigan, for heaven's sake.

    What is their reason for these delays?

    - Mark
  • mjvchicagomjvchicago Member Posts: 149
    My heart goes out to the folks who put in orders and have to wait like 4 months. My question is: when can you guys cancel, if at all? The point being that if it takes 4 months for your car to come in, why not wait for a 2004 model? The problem is if 2004 gets pushed back for some reason, you may be waiting even longer, but if the 2004s come in say September, then it may be reasonable to cancel the 2003 order and roll it over to a brand spanking new model.

    And yes, the fog lights are different on the 6s in that they are integrated into the single headlight pod vs in a separate spot in the front bumper.

    As for the radio, Bose unit is more powerful: 200 watts of amplified output. I don't know what the output is for the base unit, but my guess is that it's a lot less.
  • sjg35sjg35 Member Posts: 18
    i think you might consider 03 w/o the sports package. mazda is offering rebate of $1000 to customer and $500 to dealer, so you can effectively bargain down to $1000 below invoice. you have leverage since it's the end of the month at the end of the quarter.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
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    fighting crime in style! (with hubcaps!!!) :-D
  • stew941stew941 Member Posts: 4
    Does anyone know when the 2004's are going to be on the market?

    I have to go talk to the dealer, but I've pretty much narrowed it down to ordering a 2004 as soon as I'm allowed to or buying an audi s4 that's a couple of years old. I'm just so irritated with mazda i want to say screw 'em.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Dang! I'd pull over for that in a minute~!~ Hot.

    I saw a redfire w/sport yesterday. An amazingly sweet looking car.

    Stew A4 is a great vehicle. just don't get the turbo... they've had some trouble.

    I really feel for folks that don't like the option packages. I was able to get EXACTLY what I wanted (and nothing I didn't want) but I realize that it was a lucky chance and my own personal tastes that were satisfied. It's a shame when you REALLY know what you want, but you can't get it.

    Sorry Stew.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    "On the Protegés, the CD players do not play CD-Rs."

    The Protege CD player will play CD-Rs in WAV format but not MP3.
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