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So here in Michigan at least, they'd add 6% sales tax onto the negotiated price, and THEN subtract the rebate amount(s).
" 1. Mazda Canada Inc. will pay a cash award, a portion of which includes the applicable GST/QST/HST (federal and provincial taxes).
2. The cash award amounts are as follows:
2002 Model Year Vehicles -$750.00
2003 Model Year Protege / Protege5 - $600.00
2003 Model Year Tribute / B-Series 4x2 and 2004 Model Year Mazda6 - $800.00
2003 Model Year Miata / MPV / B-Series 4x4 - $1000.00
3. The cash award may be used as a down payment and assigned to the selling dealer or the customer may elect to receive a cheque directly from Mazda Canada. If applied to the vehicle purchase, the cash award should be deducted from the final selling price after all taxes.
4. As this is a consumer offer, an acknowledgement must be signed by the customer stating how the funds are to be applied. Only original forms, properly completed and signed by the customer will be accepted."
Dinu
Here's the ad:
http://www.jimellis.com/newCar/newspaperAd.asp
They have rebates and the "Jim Ellis Discount" listed for other vehicles, but not for the 6. Now that a rebate actually is available (came about after this ad went to press I guess) I think his numbers will change.
It also states above that people still must qualify for the $1000 loyalty rebate. That rebate is gone now.
I can't read the fine print on this ad, but all of the ads I've ever seen around here list similar deals and you still have to qualify for the discounts. It's always stated in the fine print.
If he really is under-cutting the S-Plan price he's just plain stupid. It is my understanding that the manufacturer pays the dealer back when they sell to a qualified S-Plan customer. He's just going to lose a lot of money doing what he's doing.
Actually, it doesn't expire until 7/31.
About the leather aftermarket seats, would they have that plastic piece on the bottom to block loose items from sliding under the seats on the floor? From the picture I got off the leather supplier website, it didn't look like it did.
You said you are getting the steel grey M6. Why are you getting rid of the silver one? I want the wheels from that grey Mazda6 we saw in that parking lot a couple weeks ago ;0
Ashu--
Congrats on the car. Did you get the V6? I wonder how many former Protege owners are participating in this forum?
Oh yeah, the 4 cyl sounds really cool for a 4 banger.
Right. But you still have to qualify for the $1000 (which is still available as ambull pointed out) and you can only combine $500 with the 0%.
You cannot have it all. Jimbo is crazy if he thinks he can offer all of Mazda's discounts along with his own and still stay in business. That ad's sole purpose is to get people to come into the store. The prices and scenarios on that page are all traps.
If they start from invoice and knock off the $1500 rebate and $1000 loyalty rebate I could see the car going for around $15,000. Mazda will give the dealer that $2500 back with no questions asked. I only question a dealer that advertises his/her own discount and those that you have to qualify for as the price you'll pay. There's no way they'd do that because they'd make absolutely no money on the sale.
And we bought our Accord at invoice 6 months ago. Had Mazda been giveing these kinds of deals back then we'd be driving a 6 too. I love the car but didn't like the prices at the time. I knew this would happen and I would have been taking a HUGE depreciation hit. They weren't budging off MSRP.
Congrats BTW!
Dinu
I used the grad rebate when I bought my car, but I just applied it to the down payment. Honestly, I didn't know you actually had an option to have them send a check to you... I just figured that the money should go towards the purchase of the vehicle. You might want to check your final paperwork to make sure they'd didn't just include it in there without telling you. (And as far as any manufacturer's rebate from a store bought purchase, they usually say to allow 10-12 weeks for processing.)
Hope this helps.
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ambull: I went with the 6i for exactly that reason. I knew I'd end up with way to many tickets if I did buy the 6 cylinder. I acknowledge the fact that the 4 cylinder isn't the most powerful thing out there, but I still have plenty of fun in it (and still have to try to stay out of trouble
As for the audio - I didn't want to hear the Bose package over the last week or two, as I knew I might be tempted to spring for it. I found the car optioned nearly the way I wanted, was able to add some critical add-ons (MP3 in-dash, which can't be added to the Bose!) and will add speakers when I feel the need. For now, I'm not *disappointed* with the audio system, although its no match for the aftermarket, unamplified Pioneer Head Unit with half-decent Kenwood speakers. But the 6i is so much quieter on the move, that I figure I don't need much more oomph, for now, compared to the Pro which tended to have more road noise (was getting old - 8+ years)
Glad to hear you're enoying it! I'm semi-babying mine as well, especially since I'm not as used to driving stick as I used to be - but I still occasionally let it rev up to 4.5 or 5K momentarily and shift gears often to keep the revs changing frequently. Its fun!
Also, you're right on the MSRP/Invoice snafu there - mine had Invoice listed as approx 2250 LESS than MSRP. But they're smart - they write only the final number on your agreement sheet before doing the paperwork - not a number relative to Inv/MSRP. I had taken a printout of ALL invoice option prices from the edmunds New Car research page, so I could do the math in my head, and finally on paper, before I agreed to what they called Invoice. But you're still within a couple hundred dollars of true Invoice - so no biggie. Its more important to be happy with what you bought
The second tankful (not really - actually more of a top-up, only 5-ish gallons) yielded 27+ with a 60/40 mix (freeway/city). Got a long road trip planned for this long weekend - lets see how it does
I understand that they are trying to get the less desireable copies off of the lots right now but not at a loss. Not yet anyway.
Seriously, if he's really selling 6's for $16859 minus rebates sign me up! That's gotta be one of the best deals of the new century.
MSRP: $19,270
Dealer disc.: -$2,782
Grad rebate: -$500
Advertised price: $15,988
I didn't qualify for the grad rebate, but I did get the car for $16,488 - and then added the loyalty rebate and financing rebate, for a final price of $15,238, with 0% for 60. According to the dealer, he took a loss on the car - but whether he did or not, I'm not shedding any tears over it. And he made the deal for a car that wasn't included on the ad (only 3 cars on the lot were "advertised" at that price).
Regarding the pre/post taxing of rebates, at least for me in CA, they taxed the full amount pre-rebate, then took off the rebates and financed the rest. Actually, I used the rebates as the down payment, so like ashutoshsm, I didn't even bring a checkbook.
"Seriously, if he's really selling 6's for $16859 minus rebates sign me up! That's gotta be one of the best deals of the new century."
Hell yeah. That's why we bought one.
"According to the dealer, he took a loss on the car - but whether he did or not, I'm not shedding any tears over it."
Well, neither am I, but I do feel kind of bad for Mazda that it had to come to this. A car like this shouldn't need those kinds of discounts to sell. A Chevy Malibu or Cavalier? Well, maybe you do need 0% and huge rebates to sell those. I just don't think it's fair that Mazda has to resort to the same sales tactics as General Motors. Their cars are better than that. Mazda cars have to be some of the most under-appreciated vehicles in the U.S. auto market. The auto publications like them, the rest of the world likes them, what gives?
But I shouldn't be complaining. I have a Mazda6 sitting in my garage.
sometimes rebates aren't ALL bad for the manufacturer/dealers
Thanks for any help, and thanks to all the dealers and knowledgable folks who make this forum such a valuable and entertaining resource.
Mark.
I do almost all highway driving, but it's in bad traffic for about half the way. Got 23.9 mpg on my last tank (have about 4000 miles). Not quite 27 mpg, but pretty great for a fun, fast V6.
The air conditioning in the 6i can be felt sucking the power pretty bad. Grrr... at least it's ice-cold.
If someone thinks they can get a $15,000 Mazda6, then DO IT! Sheesh! This car was the best in its class $4000 higher. But don't get your hopes up over that price
On a happier note I saw a steel grey 6 yesterday.
Mark. : )
Pricing: MSRP: $23,250
Their discounted price: $21,220
cash back: $-1500
loyalty cash back $-1000
dealer fee (B.S, but?): $+199
Net price, add tax&tag: $18,720
I would say that is a good deal for a well-equipped 6S. The dealer would add leather if I want it at ANY TIME for an additional $1000 (factory option is $1000).
Not too shabby, and I LOVE THE CAR!!!
I sat in an aftermarket leather 6. Seats were very comfortable. I can't judge leather quality, but the place the dealer uses has a million different colors to choose from, with or w/o perforations.
I may do it myself, as my butt has gotten sore pretty quickly on the cloth seats, but wasn't fatigued by these aftermarket seats.
Comfort was excellent--since heat is an issue in Flor-I-Duh, I would go for the perforated variety. The aftermarket leather was MORE comfortable than the 1999 Nissan Maxima's leather interior of the car I just sold. The 6S was a FAR better car in terms of feel than the Maxima--I drove the new Max as well as Hondas, Toyotas, and Lexus as well---the Mazda won in fun-to-drive and value over all.
Didn't inspect close enough to see how good the actual installation was, but, nothing seemed odd about it to my eyes. It was clear that the quality of leather was little better, though.
The dealer didn't really quote me a price, but said they something along the lines of "about $100-150 more than the factory leather."
Perforated leather makes a difference with heat dissipation? I heard from someone that it is strictly a cosmetic choice, and it's false that one or the other is better when it comes to heat.
and they aren't like the 'regulars' I see daily going/coming back from work!
people are indeed picking them up!