Chevy truck goes 1,000,000

chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
edited March 2014 in Chevrolet
well was just going to post this in the silverado board but thought everyone would be interested in this,


Original engine with 1,000,000 miles


http://edmunds.yellowbrix.com/pages/edmunds/Story.nsp?story_id=24472595&ID=edmunds&scategory=Auto&

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  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    No one knows how far the engine could really go, since they tore it down!

    I'm waiting Toyota lovers....Where's your million mile truck engine????

    Pfffff!!!
  • hillhoundhillhound Member Posts: 537
    "I'm waiting Toyota lovers....Where's your million mile truck engine????"

    Sitting in the middle of a big pile of rust, most likely!!
  • joeltranejoeltrane Member Posts: 25
    I was afraid you guys would get wind of that story!
    It is pretty wild to see that many miles on a truck, especially a truck that was hauling a substantial load every day.
    The only thing I don't get is....why didn't Chevy seem to care about this guy's acomplishment? I mean, Penzoil was all over it. I think Chevy could have turned that into a pretty strong ad campaign.
    In any case, hats off to that particular Chevy. I'm impressed!!

    joel:'96 T100 (not quite a million miles yet)
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    are you looking for the combined 1 mil mark for toyota engines, or just one that will make it that far?
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    The way the story sounds Chevy still might use it in an add, they made it so I don't see why they couldn't?

    I always believed that working an engine every day was the best way to keep it going. Thats why people don't think older trucks are as reliable-there not driven as much. My 81 has been a daily driver since new (and has towed a lot) while the first engine went out in the high 200,000's, In the last year I have put a total of 80$ in maintenance, and that was for two freaking choke pull offs.

    didn't it say he only went through a couple trannnies? thats like 500,000 each! Mine went 330,000 before it gave up the ghost. Maybe this guy drives it some superb way?
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    I guess the Chev pack believes in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny. Oops - they believed their truck was "Like a rock" - too bad the rock was pumice.

    Gullible!
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    Bama can't decide whether to dump his flawed 2 yr old vibrating, drum brake junkeruntdra, (now recalled (3) times) for a million mile Silverado HD Duramax with Allison 5 spd automatic, and take a huge beating on resale, since his truck is worth less than he still owes, or wait for the new Honda with (GM engine and drivetrain), or gamble on another light duty Tundra that they've fixed the brakes finally going to 4 wheel discs (like the sequoia) ...LOL!
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    hey quad if you just switched the toyota parts to GM, you would have a bama post. lol
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    If you guys really believe this million mile claim, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I would like to sell you.

    I would sooner believe that you could put a million miles on a Yugo. On the other hand, the Yugo DOES have higher quality.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    bama so you are calling this million mile truck a hoax? Funny how this guy had all his maintance done and has records. What was it every 4 days an oil change?

    I like people like you. Have all the evidence in the world and they still wanna say its not true
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    Sometimes you can be Sooo naive. That is OK - you are young.

    Answer this - the owner of the truck claimed 8 tire changes. This represents 125,000 miles before tire changes.

    I am with Chevy on this one - this guy is an idiot.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    all highway miles hmmm tires can last awhile. I was in a tire shop getting my bfgs on when a guy was there and had over 100K on his. Guy said he still had 10K on them

    Its not impossible
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    also he had RECORDS which proved his milage and such
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    You don't really believe that this guy AVERAGED 125 thousand miles on his tires.

    Chevy rejected this guy. Could it be because they realized that he is possibly A LIAR?
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    hmmm so he has records, pennzoil buys him a new truck and takes the engine to study it

    Maybe chevy doesnt need to publicize this cause thats how they build their engines and expect no less? They feel its no big acomplishment
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    Let's get back to the facts - 125K on each of 8 sets of tires. As much as the Chev pack wants to believe this - even Chev realized that this guy is a sham.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    and how is his story false?

    Please some facts besides the number of tires he went through
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    Isn't this enough? It proves the owner was a LIAR!
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    whenever a chevy topic pumps this quick, it's usually mr. jealous causing his usual comotion.......LMAO
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    The Chev pack has by its silence admitted that the 1 million miles was a lie!
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    yep you can tell when bama enters the conversation.

    "The mechanics watched in astonishment as Chevy piled up miles, cruising right past 500,000 and eventually reaching the million-mile mark. White burned through eight sets of tires and two transmissions, but his original engine still ran like a top. "

    Since this was in the same paragraph I think it might mean that he went through 8 sets of tires by the time he got to 500k
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    And you can't forget the truck comes with the first set of tires, not counted in Bama's (usually deficient) math. So, it could be as few as 55,555 miles per set. Nevertheless, if GM feels a million miles is no big deal, Pennzoil sure did since they gave the owner a new 2500 truck. They know 1 million miles is a real accomplishment, a feat never seen in any Toyota truck engine using Pennzoil.
  • mr620mr620 Member Posts: 60
    guys guys guys, just because gm guys know little about toyota trucks don't mean toyota hasn't got a million mile truck. Back before the internet age, i have read from popular science or popular mechanics magazine showing picture and story of two toyota trucks that have succeeded this feat before this chevy story. Too bad i don't have links or pictures or stories to show u now. I'll see if i can dig something up from the net.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    LMAO!! I'm sure if you can't find one...you can always make one up. I'm sure at least Bama will believe it.

    Good luck on this one now!!
  • mr620mr620 Member Posts: 60
    it is likely that toyota owners don't make a big fuss about it so it didn't got big media attention nor official recognition. I know what i have read and that was over 10 years ago. I think those record breaking toyota were early 80's model. I'm sure all million mile record breaker cars or trucks are mostly highway mileage and done no towing. My quick search on the web only got me this article, however it is not the toyota trucks that i was previously referring to.
    -----------------------------------WhiteBoard News for Monday, May 17, 1999

    Douglasville, Georgia (AP):

    After 999,421 miles, Jim Jeter's 1982 Toyota Starlet is
    taking a rest - sitting in a carport while Jeter awaits
    the right moment to reach the million-mile milestone.

    Jeter said he'll grant someone else the honor of
    turning the odometer to straight zeros, signifying 1
    million miles. He plans to "wait for Toyota to make me
    an offer I can't refuse or save it to show my grandkids
    - and I don't have any yet."

    Jeter has also petitioned the Guinness Book of Records
    for recognition of his hatchback as the longest-lasting
    car. The current record is held by a Kentucky man with
    684,297 miles on a 1979 Cadillac.

    Guinness researcher Ellen Mosher said the organization
    will rule soon on the Starlet, a model no longer sold
    in the United States.

    Jeter said Sunday the car's longevity comes from
    changing the oil every 3,000 miles. He also has
    replaced the car's alternator, starter, timing chain,
    exhaust system and three head gaskets.

    "They don't know what they have when they have one of
    these," Jeter said of Starlet owners. "These things
    will run forever."
  • hillhoundhillhound Member Posts: 537
    these posts bring Bama out of the woodwork.

    Hey there Bama-what are you doing posting here? The title of the thread says "Chevy". If my memory serves me correctly you were whining when Chevy guys posted in a Tundra forum. Unless you dumped that brake warpin' Tundra for a domestic you don't even own a fullsize pickup.
  • mr620mr620 Member Posts: 60
    i forgot to add. I have to say the 1 million mile feat by a 4 or 6 cylinders toyota is much more amazing as a smaller engine and smaller tires have to perform twice as much revolution than a bigger chevy 350 V8 with bigger tire to accomplish the same 1 million mile.

    obyone, if u don't believe it, that's your choice. It just goes to shows how little u know about other makes of automobiles.
  • gator36gator36 Member Posts: 294
    Twice as many revolutions?
    The difference in HP and torque is the reason
    for gearing differences between brands.
    I might see your view (but I don't) if the Toyota
    produced it's power at substantially higher
    rpm's than the chevy. But that is not the case.
  • PAmanPAman Member Posts: 207
    OK, here's a list of who's in on this conspiracy so far:

    1. The owner of the truck.
    2. The magazine distributor he works for that had to lie and say he drives that many miles in a day.
    3. The magazine's publisher, along with their dozens of lawyers and accountants that have blindly sat by and said nothing while the name of their magazine was associated with a lie in the Houston Chronicle story.
    4. All the guys down at the lube shop that agreed to lie for him.
    5. The credit card company or bank that falsified receipts, bills or invoices.
    6. The reporter who wrote the story, who usually spends 90% of his time trying to verify or destroy a lead BEFORE bothering to write a story. I know; I've been in the biz for over 20 years. After learning the whole thing is a lie, he agrees to write a false story anyway, thereby risking his career, financial security and ability to get another job after the Houston Chronicle fires him if they find out.
    7. His editor who read and approved the story for publication, even though he knew it was a lie.
    8. The Knight Ridder/Tribune news service, a national news organization that normally fires reporters for false stories. Somehow they agreed to publish this pack of lies AND not fire the reporter--holy cow, call Mike Wallace and the 60 Minutes crowd!
    9. The nationally-known web sites like Edmunds.com who agreed to publish the lies.
    10. The suckers at Penzoil who bought him a new truck.
    11. The guys in the lab who spotted the truck as a fake when it arrived, but agreed to say nothing, thereby risking their professional credentials.
    12. His wife. (Would LOVE to know how he got her to go along with it!)

    Yep, Bama-lama-ding-dong is right--this IS a pack of lies!

    GEEEEEZ!!!
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    not that I'm saying the feat is any less but I have a feeling a startlet is some little car? This guy towed everyday!

    oh please, yeah the toyota guys don't make a deal about it when their vehicles reach 1million get real, give GM their credit do, notice the current guiness book of world records vehicle is a 79 Cadillac, the so called worse years of GM!

    Why does every nice GM news tid bit have to be spoiled by the toyota crowd who try to discount it with no reason to do it?
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    Chevy is trying to recover from Edmunds' Sierra report and Consumer Report's damaging reviews. You know, where the Sierra was the worst vehicle ever tested (more than TWICE as many warranty repairs as their previously worst vehicle - a Jeep). Seriously, the truck had to go to the dealership EVERY MONTH for work! Consumer Reports rated the truck "much worse than average."

    For every Toyota lemon, there's 20 Chevy lemons. For every GM gem, there's a hundred Toyota gems. I think that's great GM accomplished this million mile feat. It gives Toyota some competition for what it had already done 20 years ago.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    but no GM every received a one star side impact rating like the junk you're driving now.....you are still driving it aren't you?
  • scattershieldscattershield Member Posts: 11
    Amazing feat. Surprised it took so few years.
    In simple math 795 daily miles x 5 days x 50 weeks = 198,750 miles per year.

    Leaving home just after 5:00pm and returning about 6:00am allows 13 hours on road. Lets give him 1 hour off for delivery stops and breaks. Average speed is 66.25 mph. Judging this guys work ethics all seems quite believable.

    He must love late night talk radio from the South. I'd probably go ballistic after a few weeks. He probably has a good CD player too.
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    no obviously teh GMC had some problems, but there are always lemons out there no matter what kind of vehicle you drive, I don't believe once is enough to give up on a company, a guy over on the 80-00 lemon board got a lemon Chev in 86, bought a 88 Chev, a 00 Chev, and I think an Impala (?) all with outstanding reliability and quality.

    I do have some problems with the sierra review:
    Women pulls of plastic piece that isn't mean to carry a load and its GMC's fault? Hello thats what the handles are for.

    they noted brake squeal, oh my gosh could it be the brake got dirty?

    The tailgate hinge squeked, oh may how horrible.

    And half the other crap resulted from a dealer with technicians that didn't know what they were doing, that can happen with any car company.

    Also none of the Sierra's problem had to do with reliability, it was all little crap like wind noise. And as far as I know there were no problems with the engine?
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    for like 3 or 4 months they complained of the steering vib or whatever. I said the whole time take it in and get a new steering shaft easy as that 30 min fix. It took em like 6 months so that was a repeated complaint that had an easy fix
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    CTF, why didn't you mention the steering vibration, constant misalignment problems, CRAPPY, unsafe ABS malfunctioning brakes, leaking transfer cases, etc?

    Don't downplay the petty stuff like the interior molding that came off. That wasn't an isolated incident. The whole 'fricking interior was falling apart! Even the staff said that the truck rode like it had TWICE or TRIPLE the actual mileage with the bad ride, everything shaking and falling apart, etc.

    I drive Expeditions and Tahoes at my work. I wonder if I drive more miles in Chevys and Fords than you guys do. The highlight of my day is getting in my Toyota and driving home. The quality difference is soooo obvious.

    Obyone, yes, I'm still driving my truck. Yeah, maybe the truck's side-impact rating could be better. But the 1998 S-10 only had a "marginal" rating on the off-seat crash, while the Tacoma had "acceptable." Overall, Chevy's S-10 that year was not a safer truck than the Tacoma. Also, quit skirting the issue that your beloved Sierra has had some horrible, unsafe brake problems. These issues were addressed on Edmund's long term review. Popular Mechanics tested the Tundra vs. Chevy 5.3, and guess what? The Tundra with 1350lbs payload still stopped faster than your empty Shakkkerrrado (with your beloved 4 wheel disk brakes!). I guess when we talk about safety, you ignore brakes?

    You guys make me laugh. You say how great Chevy is, but never want to talk about long-term reviews, consumer reports on reliability (worse/much worse than average for your beloved Chevy), etc.

    If it wasn't for your pride, you all would admit Chevy is crap.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    I know a woman at my work that swears everything she reads in the National Enquirer is true! If it wasn't true, they couldn't publish it. You remind me of her.

    Hey - this guy is cheap advertising for Pennzoil. It they gave him a new truck - it added credibility to the story - something that it is desperately in need of. $30K is chump change for a marketing ploy.

    Do you really believe that this guy drove 13hrs a day for 50wks a year? When would he eat? (13hrs is a long time to go between meals.) When would he use a restroom?( do you think he was catheterized?) When would he get gas? When would he pickup and drop off his papers? Doesn't this take time?

    Let's assume that all of this takes 3hrs a day. That means he has 10hrs to drive 795 miles. This means he AVERAGES 79.5 mph ALL DAY. Wait a minute! I do not know of a single state (In the South at least) that has over a 70mph speed limit.

    Usually - you can get away with speeding - but someone who drives 200,000 mi. a year? Unlikely. And how does this guy keep up his 80mph average speed when he is in the cities? I don't think so!!!

    This is what is called in journalism as sensationalism - If you tell a big enough lie some people will believe it. This is how the tabloids survive. I just can't believe how many people are gullible enough to believe this male bovine excrement!
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    You envious Chev owners have been posting to the Tundra topics for years (which I have pointed out on numerous occasions to no avail). Since this has had no effect - why shouldn't I post to Shakerrrrado topics. It just seems fair (Right?)
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    i'm glad you post here, as you add such humor to any and all topics you post in. since you keep up with all the chevy defects, i was wondering whether or not you've taken the time to look at the sludge problem that Toyota has on their hands.......no, this is not a fabrication, but rather a fact that Toyota is trying to sweep under the carpet AGAIN. it appears that in their haste to get buyers, they have quite a few poorly assembled engines of various sizes that are starting to leak their own glycol right into the crankcase.......hope you don't have one...(:-{}
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    That's funny! I have not ever seen a Toyota truck owner post of sludge problems. I know that you are insecure about that Lemonado that you paid big bucks for, but please stop posting lies about Tundra pickups unless you have some sort of evidence.

    You didn't say why you attributed the Tundra to this imaginary defect. Can't find any? - I 'm not surprised!

    The Chev pack always wants to divert attention away from their flawed pickups.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    Consumer Reports: Chevy Silverado : "Poor reliability keeps us from recommending these competent pickups."

    Why should you have to accept Yugo reliability when you buy a Chev? Consumer Reports 2001 buying guide: Predicted reliability: "Much worse than average"

    OR: You can buy a Tundra - Consumer Reports 2001 buying guide: "Overall the Tundra ups the ante in this class"
    Predicted reliability "Better than average"
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    Please show me ANY review of ANY Toyota of ANY year that's as bad as the 1999 Sierra's review here at Edmunds.

    Please show me ANY rating by Consumer Reports where a Chevy was rated higher than its competing Toyota model.

    Toyota products are always rated higher/much higher than the industry average for quality and reliability. Chevy, well, worse/much worse than the industry average.

    Personally, I would rather have a defective lampholder on a Tundra than a Chevy with a knocking engine, malfunctioning brakes, shaking steering column, leaking transfer case and an interior that literally falls apart. But hey, glad your argument on glycol in crankcases makes you feel better...

    Denial, denial...
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    take a look at the "sludge" topic on the maintanence board. there are over 2K posts, and there are quite aa few different toyota owners (including Tundra) that have this problem. problem is, you may have it, but won't see it till it's too late. oh and BTW, not every Tundra owner talks on the tundrasolutions board.
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    What are you guys trying to prove by mentioning every problem somebody has ever had with a Toyota truck? Could I not as easily go the Sierra/Silverado problem thread and mention all their problems here as well (the fire-ball Duramax diesel comes to mind...)

    Why can't you realize that for every problem you find out there with a Toyota, we can find at least 10 problems with Chevy?

    You guys always bring up individual cases like somebody finding glycol in crankcases, or bad lampholders, etc. An intelligent, valid argument on your behalf would be something like "the Toyota was found to have below industry average for..." But you guys can't say that, because the Toyotas always have above/much above industry average for quality and reliability. How many times do we have to mention that Chevy continually gets below/much below industry average for quality and reliability?

    You keep finding faulty with the Tundra because of your mentioned problems with it. Well, then maybe you can suggest a 1/2 truck from Ford, Chevy or Dodge that has proven to be more reliable.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think Chevy trucks aren't bad at all WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING PROPERLY. They have good performance, but the reliability and quality just isn't there. I think it's pretty shameful in today's day and age to be making trucks that Edmunds and Consumer Reports found too problematic to recommend, though the trucks performance was good the few times (few times is an understatement - Edmunds' truck required work every month they had it, and they said there was ALWAYS something that needed to be fixed) everything was working properly.
  • ttiger2ttiger2 Member Posts: 2
    Toyotas are not passionate vehicles, owners buy them because of their reputation of quality(Tundra is too new, so it would be projected quality). If they did encounter problems they would not make it known, they would assume they just picked a bad apple. We all know what happens we we assume, for instance when the T100 came out advertised as the smoothest running full size truck. Owners complained, in a quiet behind the scenes way they bought back alot of those trucks after they tried the Toyota builds vehicles of the highest quality spill.

    This also sent Toyota to Chevrolet to allow them to use the 4.8/5.3 Vortec engines. Negotiations were not successful so they designed their own. After the launch another quiet as it is kept issue arose with Toyotas 4.7?, under heavy stress the engine broke example hauling and towing. Instances were head gaskets blown, etc..

    In essence for a full size job, get a full sized Truck that is built for that purpose, not a Camry on a truck frame.
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    with somebody who thinks a Tundra is built on a Camry frame?
  • jasonpeterclarjasonpeterclar Member Posts: 30
    As an owner of a new Chevy Truck and a loyal "Buy American" guy, even I will concede that the Tundra is a better screwed together truck than the Silverado/Sierra. Toyota designs vehicles for ease of manufacturing better than anyone, and the individual component quality is equal or better.

    But, a lot of the problems attributed to "quality" can be tied to the fact that there are about 8.5 GM twins (and 8.5 Fords for that matter) sold for every Tundra. Even if the quality were equal, you'd still get 8.5 times as many problems reported.
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    I mentioned those problems because I found it bogus that they complained so much about these problems that are either their fault or the dealers fault and not GM's.
  • plutoniousplutonious Member Posts: 799
    for acknowledging the integrity of Toyota trucks, but I think your 8.5 quality argument if flawed. The Camry has been the #1 selling vehicle in America for a few years running now, outselling the Chevy Malibu by a wide margin. The Camry, however, does not have more problems because more are sold. In fact, it has proven to be one of the most reliable vehicles money can buy. That's one of the reasons it's been so popular.
  • chevytruck_fanchevytruck_fan Member Posts: 432
    more cars sold more reported problems, I dont' understand how you don't understand this?

    lets say there is one problem per toyota and one per Silverado=700,000 problems , 100,000 problems which are you going to here more about?

    And how did this discussion turn to SIlverado sucks discussion? Thats not what this discussion is about, it is about a chevy engine that went 1,000,000 miles it has nothign to do with the tundra or anything else, so you anti americans get out of here
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