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Saab 9-3 Sedan



  • trencher7trencher7 Posts: 48
    JParrot, can you go into what happened with your Arc? Did it stop running or make a certain noise?
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Thanks...that could make a difference in my decision.
  • I didn't notice a performance problem but, ever 100 miles, the check engine light would come on. They would hook it up to the computer... evidently this pump keeps burning out. (ON number 3 at the moment) They now says it is a computer problem.. SAAB will have to ship a new one from Sweeden...(they are programed specific to your VIN) So, it won't hit the dealer until NEXT Friday.. so, looking around the 5th to get it back in MY garage.. I hope (crossing fingers) this will do the trick

    J Parrott
  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Posts: 626
    Just wondering - while you have your car in the shop, what kind of loaner are they supplying you with?
  • gbronzergbronzer Posts: 1
    I'm looking at a 2003 Saab 93 Linear, the dealer offered me a decent price but then tacked on a $130 Dealer Prep and $250 Advertising Fee. I know the Dealer Prep is a dubious charge, but I've read that the Ad Fee can be legitimate. Has anyone else paid this fee?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 63,277
    Both are legitimate..Both are on the factory invoice.


    P.S.: do a search for post #1110 in this discussion for a link.


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  • thomthorthomthor Posts: 1
    If I were you, I would take a look through the consumer rights supplement to your owners manual, it will explain your rights. In California, 3 times for the same problem or thirty days out of service in the first year qualifies you to have the car bought back or replaced by Saab.
  • RE: the loaner... the place that actually has my car - got me a rental - a ford escort with 25K miles on it.. When I called the dealer I bought it from.. they told me to return it.. they gave me a Saab 9-5

    As far as Lemon Law - they get 4 times here in IL and it has to be out for 30 business days.. I don't belive it is an 4 times OR 30 days..

    Thanks for the postings.

    J Parrott
  • Parrott - Sorry to hear about the problem with your ARC. Since its a recurring problem, it leads me to beleive that there is a solution, just a matter of finding it. I have not had any problems with my ARC and am still very excited everytime I get behind the wheel. Keep the faith, this too will pass. Enjoy the 9-5!

    I'm from Illinois as well. What dealer are you working with?
  • rgb2rgb2 Posts: 31
    If you don't mind me asking, what kind of price are you getting?

    Does anyone know if the GM loyalty rebate offer is still valid?
  • I bought my 9-3 at Exchange.. I must say I have been impressed with them.

    Perillo is doing the work.. I am taking my frustrations out on them.. but, they have been acceptable. The Manager of Service seems to think it is one of the computers. I sure hope he is right. Enjoy your car!

    J Parrott

    p.s. He says that only 4 of the Saab 9-3's have surfaced with this problem... I guess I need to play the powerball this weekend with those odds! :)
  • code7700code7700 Posts: 65
    So I wrote Saab about some other minor issues I am having with my car... and their reply was:

    "While I do understand your comments and concerns, I regret that I am not able to assist with these issues."

    Who the hell is supposed to help me other than the dealer working on the problems? Doesn't Saab USA take any credit for their problems?
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    With the Subaru WRX with a Saab grille being the Saab 9-2 and the Chevy Trailblazer being brand engineered into a Saab SUV, is the 9-3 the last Saab that could be considered the least bit european/swedish in character or design? Will GM W-Body seats and power windows controls find their way into a Saab in the near future?

    Is Ford doing a better job with Volvo?
  • 40_love40_love Posts: 2
    Has anyone purchased a saab in NYC area ? I'm looking for a reputable dealer
  • hppypaulhppypaul Posts: 43
    If you don't mind going to NJ definitely go to Reinertsen Motors in Denville (Northern NJ), and ask for Rich Carafa. They are a saab only dealer and take good care of their customers. an excellent servce dept too.
  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Posts: 626
    If you don't mind going to NJ definitely go to Reinertsen Motors in Denville (Northern NJ), and ask for Rich Carafa. They are a saab only dealer and take good care of their customers. an excellent servce dept too. <<

    Small World. Same dealer, same salesman.

    I agree. They have been great so far (I'm waiting for mine - a few more days!) I've called Rich every few days with questions, and he's always responded immediately
  • f650racerf650racer Posts: 16
    Wonder what this item is? The only emissions-related pump I can think of is the turbocharger. And this is the prime item distinguishing the stronger engines in the Arc and Vector. It'd be interesting to know whether any of those 4 cars with this problem are Linears.
  • mjwillsmjwills Posts: 46
    I (my wife) have an 03 vector (built 2-03). I love the car (looks, performance, styling) but have a few questions. How efficient is the auto-stick? Do you need to shift a little before desired RPM due to a lack of responsiveness? Will a K&N air filter help performance? There is a nasty rattle coming from the overhead console - I had the 2 end pieces off of it - but it is in the middle - does that just pop off also (I didn't want to force it). Also there seems to be a buzzing type sound coming from the front doors - any thoughts? How are the SAAB dealers to deal with for warranty/service issues? Anyone have any other issues regarding this car? If you can help out in any way I would appreciate it. Thanks.
  • mjwillsmjwills Posts: 46
    Has anyone tried the SAAB specific wax they produce? Comments on this and other products to keep the black looking great. Thanks.
  • I have used the Zymol cleaner polish (liquid blue stuff)with great success. Also, I use 303 on the interior bits, body side moldings and the weather stripping.
  • ncgnitoncgnito Posts: 4
    hey mjwills, just pick up my steel gray metallic Vector two weeks ago. Very happy with it too. Have also noticed the rattle coming in over the overhead console. Took a while to figure out where it was coming from. Anyway, was going to mention it to the service department. Also taking it in because the steering wheel is not quite centered which is driving me nuts. Didn't notice it on delivery. Also noticing other buzzes and rattles coming from the interior. Not a consistent thing which leads me to believe it's caused by weather (temp., humidity, etc.). Anyway, still love the car overall. Like to hear if anyone else has addressed the rattle/buzzing problems.
  • trencher7trencher7 Posts: 48
    Whenever I think twice about the 9-3 Vector I just go price a 325ci at bmwusa and compare prices. A similarly equipped 325ci which has way less power is $39,220!! The only think that it beats the Saab in is the stereo (Harmon Kardon) and the rear wheel drive. But that much for a car and only 184 HP with 175 lbs of torque? I'll take the 210 hp and 221 lbs of torque for thousands less. The only thing that is tempting is to go the G35 route. Much bang for the buck, but the 9-3 wins the character/looks competition hands down.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    The 9-3 Vector with moonroof and climate control has an MSRP of $34,900.

    If you can live without xenons and headlight washers, a nicely loaded 325i has an MSRP of $34,500.

    Of course, Saab has that factory-to-dealer incentive to sweeten the pot...
  • blitzin1blitzin1 Posts: 53
    Caught today in a Northeast downpour, first time with the rain sensing wipers on the Arc- question for those of you with this setup- when I turn the car off, but leave the stalk in the "auto" position, when I turn the car on again, the wipers *do not* go back into auto mode- I have to turn the wipers off and on again to get them to work. I find this a pain in the %^&* when running errands, as I have to turn them off and on every time I get back in the car. Is this normal, or do I have a problem? Can this be "fixed" via Tech II?
  • Just got my Vector yesterday after speaking with many dealers from here to Delaware. Saab of Greenwich, specifically salesman Jay Thomson had the best deal and least amount of hassle. I would definitely recommend you give them a call.
  • Looking for a cargo mat for a Vector -- aftermarket or otherwise. Anyone have any info?
  • tgp1810tgp1810 Posts: 112
    I'm about to take the plunge and get the Linear. My question is about the stereo, I know that it hasn&#146;t gotten the best reviews. Can anyone make a comparison to one in another vehicle (maybe to the Malibu, Impala, Escape, Ranger?). I'm just wondering if it will be sufficient for me without the upgrade. I need to lease (because of school) so I&#146;m wondering if I *need* the upgrade how that would work out.

  • bmwdougbmwdoug Posts: 248
    Why is there no Navigation system offered in the Saab 9-3? I think Saab missed the boat on this option. Luxury sedan's should have this option.
  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Posts: 626
    Rumored to be offered in US in 04. Already an option in Europe
  • gbriankgbriank Posts: 220
    How efficient is the auto-stick? Do you need to shift a little before desired RPM due to a lack of responsiveness?

    -In driving one of the loaner cars while mine was in the shop, I found the auto-stick to have about a three second lag between pushing the shifter and the actual shift. Once you learn how to "time" the shifts to your acceleration, this lag can be overcome. Unfortunately if something gets in your way, you need more power and have already upshifted, you've either got to go back to "auto" mode or downshift and wait three seconds.

    Will a K&N air filter help performance?

    -Spooling up yes, more power no. The advent of Trionic 7 (2000-2002 9-3) and the mass airflow sensor prevent cotton filters/cold air intakes from making a performance difference. This technology was passed on to Trionic 8 (2003 9-3).

    Also there seems to be a buzzing type sound coming from the front doors - any thoughts?

    -Does this happen while the stereo is on? Or all of the time?
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