Volvo XC90 SUV

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  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Don't think it would make any difference to the dealer.
    XC90 still a hot commodity.
    Good Luck though.
  • shadowchasershadowchaser Member Posts: 94
    parked a xenon next to a halogen xc90. The poor halogens looked so weak. Can't imagine the limitations of xenons make halogens more attractive.

    I still hate the design of the switch....

    S
  • happyvolvohappyvolvo Member Posts: 3
    To Shadowchaser: "I wonder what would happen if the airbag went off. Would I get the Volvo logo imprinted on my forehead?"

    Sorry - I didn't mean to sound facetious. You bring up a good point (pun intentional) about the Volvo logo on the steering wheel. I wonder if it can be peeled off.

    Also, I agree with you about the light switch. It seems it would be simple enough to enable the high beam switch to work in the "Auto" position as well as the "On" position. I also have an '03 Suburban Z71. The light switch has four positions: Auto; Parking Lights; On; and a spring-loaded position to turn off the DRLs until the next time the vehicle is started. The high beams work by pushing the signal stalk forward where it stays - makes a lot more sense. Go figure - it's from Detroit (Mexico, actually.)

    To Bigeddy: Thanks for your input on the bi-xenons. The dealer essentially told me what I read in the manual. I'd like to know if they can be aimed higher, and if so, if that would blind oncoming drivers. Does anyone know the procedure for checking and aiming the headlights? I don't see any means of adjustment. Incidentally, we didn't order the bi-xenons, but the car came through with them. We didn't have to pay for them, though - sort of a party favor from our dealer.

    Overall, we couldn't be more pleased with the vehicle.

    Thanks to all.
    happyvolvo
  • uscpsychouscpsycho Member Posts: 17
    Well, I just got my XC90 and so far so good. I don't have many complaints yet. My biggest issue is with the darn Homelink. I can't get it to work to save my life. I've programmed it and re-programmed it. I get the light to flash quickly indicating that it has learned my code (non-rolling variety). But whey I press the button my garage door doesn't open.

    Where is the Homelink transmitter? Is it that weak? I can't imagine the car's transmitter is weaker than my little micro remote. Is it???? HELP!!!
  • rhenrhen Member Posts: 2
    Me too have hard time setting homelink on my XC90, since you already setup the homelink to learn your code... try pressing HARDER on button 1,2 or 3 to open or close the garage... mine sometimes won't open/close with just 1 press at the button.. somtimes it needs 2 HARD PRESS to open...

    hope this works!
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    I've noticed with the homelink button you have to hold it in for a second or so to open the door, whereas my garage door opener I just push and release.
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    Go to their website and they will help solve your problems:

    www.homelink.com

    Good luck.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    You might have to bring the nose of the car right up to the garage door. I had to do that w/ my homelink equipped Mitsubishi.

    The Volvo Logo on the wheel isn't a safety concern if your wearing your seatbelt.
    The airbag cover splits just below the logo to allow the bag to deploy.
  • dachshund2dachshund2 Member Posts: 39
    I recently learned from another forum that there has been a service bulletin released on 9/2/03 concerning the seat belts. My first post #1494 addressed this for reference.

    SB 88-0034-0903: "A new belt guide has been introduced to prevent the locking tab of the outer seat belts for the 2nd row seat from catching in the door."

    I had this fix done on 9/26. It involves having a 6" plastic sheath riveted to the base of the belt. It is designed to keep the belt from twisting as easily and also pulls it away from the seat a little bit so the belt doesn't catch on the release as easily. It looks very similar to the ones already on the front belts except twice as long and slightly curved. Seems to be working so far.
  • rkuehnrkuehn Member Posts: 120
    Will the V8 be positioned above the T6 (more money) or replace it for the same price?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    At this point we don't know.
    Volvo is working on a new I6 as well.

    My guess is that the V8 will replace the T6 initially and then the new T6 will come back in 06 below the V8.
  • e350v10e350v10 Member Posts: 92
    Are the V8s testing in Arizona redesigned as well?
  • wyncdavieswyncdavies Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    Has anyone actually towed anything with the XC90? I am looking to two a travel trailer that weighs about 3500 lbs loaded, well under the 5000 lb capacity of the XC90. I'm worried because I don't see any option for transmission or power steering coolers that you usually see with towing packages. Does anyone have any experience towing a trailer in that weight range?

    Thanks!

    wyn
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    The V8's are in current XC90's.
    No redesign of the XC90's are planned.

    The XC90 already has the proper add on equipment for towing, all that is needed is the hitch.
  • matwagsmatwags Member Posts: 21
    I am anxiously awaiting delivery of a 2.5T XC90 w/ ver, prem, clim, prem sound and xenons on 11/18/03.

    I am interested in peoples experience with premium vs regular gas. I discussed this with the Volvo salesman, who told me that regular fuel is recommended. However this forum and others have said to use premium. Some have suggested that without premium fuel the vehicle computer will switch to a lower efficiency combustion and decreased mileage. I would appreciate all comments.
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    My owners manual for my `04 XC90 recommends minimum 91 octane gasoline.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Premium is recommended. The car will run on lesser gas, but not as efficently.
    In other words, you'll buy more gas.
  • uscpsychouscpsycho Member Posts: 17
    Is the motorized navigation system designed for occasional use or will it hold up to the stress of being left on all the time? I'm concerned all the up-and-down will cause problems.

    As a side note, I am happy to say that I just got my windows tinted (metal-free) and have none of the reception problems I've read complaints about. I get fantastic FM reception and some of the best AM reception I've had. Seems like the worst problems with reception occur on Dolby systems (mine is not dolby).
  • rollierollie Member Posts: 337
    We have Volvo's navigation system in our '99 S80 T6 (68k miles) and '01 V70 T5 (38k miles). They are running anytime the key is in the switch and we've never had any issues with the hardware.

    There's aren't a lot of nav owners out there but the reports on the Volvo forums have been positive to date.

    Good luck.

    -rollie
    rdollie@att.net
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    "Seems like the worst problems with reception occur on Dolby systems......"
    True. Dolby is okay IF the station you are tuning to provides a strong signal, if it is not a strong signal, Dolby makes it `sound' snowy, or static-like.
    I actually have the Dolby OFF for radio reception and ON for CD's.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    "The XC90, Volvo's first SUV, is typically Volvo: a great vehicle, loaded with luxury amenities and the best safety features money can buy."

    SUV shows Swedes can think outside the box (San Antonio Express-News)

    Steve, Host
  • jblaisdelljblaisdell Member Posts: 1
    I’m about two weeks out from being a first time owner of a Volvo which coincidently (since I’m posting in this forum) a Crystal Green XC90 T6 with everything the dealer could throw at me. I’m stationed in the UK and ordered it way back in April and I’ve had to wait this long to get it. For those of you who are finding it complicated to get your hands on a XC90 in the states, try getting one here via Volvo/military car sales; the wait for some Americans here is a year or longer. The demand is that high. One of the regrets I have is that I didn’t find this town hall forum before my purchase; if I had I would have gone ruby red (it was my wife’s color choice but I didn’t listen – I hope she never reads that) I started to get a little skeptical of my purchase upon reading some of the complaints. I read all 114 pages 2279 messages and I’m feeling empowered, I actually feel like an informed consumer. I now know how to formulate and configure the installation of a child’s car-seat or multiple car-seats. The number of inputs on that topic has been staggering. To think, something perceived as simple as the installation of a car-seat could be debated for months on a number of occasions is mind-numbing and a little humorous. Though that problem isn’t one I presently have to entertain myself with the many other issues brought up I found enlightening. Before I even pick up our new car I’ll be consciously aware of the potential problems I may face and very well may already know the information on how to get it fixed. For that I thank all of you. Now for my question (a small and insignificant one at that) – My dealer a couple weeks back contacted me and told me that the manufacturer is no longer installing the running boards and that option has now been siphoned off to the dealer. Is that true? Like I stated earlier this is a military car sales purchase and the dealer is only an office with a small showroom that can accommodate only two cars. They’re the only provider of the “military car sales” concept in the UK – which is coincidently a tax free purchase and though it’s in the UK the vehicle is US spec (for those of you who are unaware). Anyway, the dealer cannot perform the modification so we have to go to another Volvo dealer. The question I have is simple and appeases my curiosity - not a big deal. Were running boards ever a manufacturer installed item or have they always been installed by the dealer? Sorry for the long winded post, this is the first time I’ve visited a chat forum and I promise since I’ve introduced myself it will be the last long message I’ll ever post; promise.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Congrats on the soon to be there new XC90! And welcome to Town Hall, and kudos for reading all the posts.

    One hint, more white space is good. Makes even the longest post easy to read.

    And finally, we all want to know what your wife's email address is so we can point her to the Ruby Red comment :-)

    Steve, Host
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    I believe they have always been a dealer-installed accessory. One person even tried to get them installed at a factory delivery in Sweden and was unsuccessful.

    You might want to try them on someone else's XC90 before buying. Some people find they get in the way and others don't think they are wide enough to step on comfortably. Also, there is at least one after-market running board made for the XC90.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Are only a dealer installed accesory.
    Given the low step in on the XC90 they are pretty useless, look nice though
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    Well, not "useless." I find them handy for reaching things on the roof rack. Also for knocking mud off my shoes. Judging by the "pings" I've heard, I'd say they protect the body from rocks thrown up by the front tires. Other people say that kids use them to climb in the back.
  • prichardsonprichardson Member Posts: 2
    I recently towed a 4600lb boat 135 miles without any problem. I was a little nervous, since it was my first time towing anything, and I stayed under 55 mph, per the owner's manual. I averaged 10mpg with the boat. Once I dropped it off, I averaged 19.9mpg for the trip home.
  • kelly38kelly38 Member Posts: 1
    Given the presumed factory-installed availability of such a system (dual 7" LCD screens built into the front seat headrests, wireless headphones, etc) in the S80 Elite, does anyone know why this option is currently unavailable for the XC90 (a vehicle with more than a few platform similarities to the S80)? One presumes(?) that Volvo wouldn't show / offer this system unless it has already passed Volvo's safety tests. The photos / description of this system in the current S80 catalog highlight what an elegant solution it is for issues of rear visibility and overall use.
    A May '03 post in 'another' forum (sorry...I don't have the link) refers to European availability of this rear seat entertainment (RSE) system in the XC90, at a cost of 2,500 pounds (British). Inquiries at local dealerships (I know, I know....) yielded the vague offer of a Volvo-authorized roof-mounted RSE later this year, probably no different than many such aftermarket systems (a Volvo bid to retrofit '03, '04 models?). The decisions of what options to offer, and at what price point, are usually assisted (driven?) by marketing surveys. If the XC90 is being used by families taking longer trips, wouldn't such an option be popular? (Assuming it doesn't cost a lot more than the current roof-mounted RSE system)

    While the entire issue of a RSE system is trivial compared with the many other reasons to get an XC90, I'd feel foolish seeing the better option become available a few months after my purchase. So....any info?

    Thanks.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Here's what we know so far...

    The roof mounted system from Volvo will be available sometime in the first quarter of 2004.
    The system will be dealer installed ONLY.
    Figure $2000 installed. System will play through headphones only.

    The headrest mounted system will be available on the XC90 Premier only. Also first quarter 2004.
    The drawback of the headrest system is visibility from the 3rd row.
  • rollierollie Member Posts: 337
    Don't forget that the drawback of the roof mounted solution is the driver's rearward visibility with the rear-view mirror (like it isn't hard enough to see out the back of a SUV already.)

    The Mrs. and I prefer the headrest mounted solution and we were going to get it in the XC90 Premier but now I'm not sure if I can wait that long - we're thinking about passing on the XC90 for now since the arrival of the V8 late next year is going to hurt T6 resale in my opinion (and we keep vehicles for about 3 years and need to start thinking about resale a little more than we have in the past - boy do I miss the late 90s when we just didn't care as much because it always seemed a pot of gold was just around the bend!)

    FWIW, there's 2 XC90 Premiers (1 black , 1 white) running around here in South Orange County (driven by Volvo staff in Irvine) and I haven't managed to find one yet - but my digital camera is at the ready!

    -rollie
    rdollie@att.net
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Supposedly the Volvo roof mounted unit will swing up into the roof if the trans is put into reverse.

    Also, I don't think the V8 will hurt the T6 engine much at resale time.
    The public will want whatever used XC90's they can get their hands on I think.
  • jp666jp666 Member Posts: 15
    I picked up my crystal green XC90 T6 with silver inlays in early October and loved it up till today. I have 660 miles on it and after driving today for 10 minutes and hitting the accelerator at 35 mph I heard a loud bang like a backfire out of the engine..then the engine stalled and shut down..I tried to restart and it sputtered enough for me to get to the side of the road......after arranging for a tow the dealer the courteous and apologetic dealer came to where I was about 45 minutes later..the car of course started and we drove it back fine to the dealer and now I have a loaner...they thoght maybe a hose came off but that was not the case..they will check the system to attempt to figure out what it is and let me know....

    Anyone else have this problem and / or have any suggestions for me besides pray ?

    After paying about 48K and never having a problem with my 12 year honda accord, I am very nervous eventhough it will not cost me anything and my wife thinks we may have a lemon and wants a new one...

    Suggestions for me ?
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    On another forum two owners had a similar problem with their T6.
    One was to do with the computer (service department fixed the problem).
    Another was to do with the following part:

    The part # is 30636959 Ladeluftrohr (Air load pipe).

    This part had cracked and was replaced.

    The 2 listed incidences above could be related, or not. I'm sure Volvo will make it right.
  • londonfinlondonfin Member Posts: 31
    Hi- Does anyone have any thoughts or recommendations for snow tires for my T6 with the 18" wheels?

    I know there are not many options and welcome any thoughts or suggestions.

    BTW now at 4000 miles and loving it. No problems so far.

    Thanks.
  • stephfromnjstephfromnj Member Posts: 4
    I can save 1.7K. if I get the 2003 T6 rather than the 2004.

    Does anyone know of any significant changes that would make up the difference?

    Does 12 valves vrs. 24 valves make any difference?

    What is the value of the free maintance package on the 2004?

    Thanks!!
    Stephanie
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    Regarding any significant changes that would make up the $1,700 difference...
    That would be hard to say without knowing if the options are the same on both vehicles.

    As far as options available from MOY `03 to MOY `04, there isn't a significant change. I believe `04 models added options include wood steering wheel and wood shifter.

    24 valve engine vs. 12 valve results in a better performing engine.

    The free scheduled maintenance is for the first 30k of the vehicle. Depending on what your particular dealer-service department charges, it will be worth about $400.

    If you aren't in a terrible hurry for a car, Volvo will begin taking orders for `05 models late this year or early next.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    No significant changes.
    Wood wheel available on 03 and 04 models.
    All Volvo engines are 4 valve per cylinder.
    5 cyl= 20 valves
    6 cyl= 24 valves

    The 05 won't be here till the fall of 04
  • stephfromnjstephfromnj Member Posts: 4
    Thanks sttimevolve for your response... very helpful... both cars have same options completely except the 12 vrs 24 valve engine.

    so, in your opinion, am I going to be ok with the 12 valve engine on the XC T6 2003?
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    Stephanie,

    I am confused. The engine offered in the `03 XC90 T6 is identical to the `04 T6. They should both be 24 valve DOHC engines.

    Where are you getting the 12 valve info from?
  • avery1avery1 Member Posts: 373
    Personally, as long as they only post no more than once a month or so or it is in response to a query I think it is useful to know where I can get discounted products.
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    .....that's what search engines are for.
  • triceratops5triceratops5 Member Posts: 16
    '04 XC90 2.5T, approx 800 miles. Car has been great so far, save for one thing: gas mileage. It's been almost exclusively around town, hilly driving, and I've averaging about 13.5 mpg. That's guilt-inducing bad, isn't it. Also, with a 19 gal tank, seems like by the time I've driven a little over 100 miles, the tank is half empty. Contrast this with my S80 2.9, where I get 22 mpg (and have gotten 28-29 on the freeway) and once went 550 miles on a single tank.
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    triceratops5,
    It must be quite hilly where you live to get 13.5 mpg in city driving. Have you had a chance to get it on the highway yet?

    As you get more miles on it, the mileage should start to improve abit.

    It's abit hilly where I live. My wife gets about 17-18 mpg going to and from work. Mostly county and residential roads, so there's alot of stop and go driving. On the highway we get 23-24 mpg.

    Hope your mileage improves.
  • stephfromnjstephfromnj Member Posts: 4
    I got the valve info. on-line by comparing the engine specs on both years at Yahoo- in their compare auto section.

    By the way, the reviews on the 2.5 AWD seem better than the T6. To me the T6 seems significantly better.... did you try the 2.5 before you bought?

    I really appreciate all your help on this. I don't even know what a valve is!
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    Stephanie,

    The info on Yahoo is incorrect. The info here on Edmunds, under the specifications for the Volvo (or any car for that matter) is accurate. You can also go to http://www.volvocars.us for more info.

    We test drove the T6 and the 2.5T and ended up buying the 2.5T. The advantages of the 6 cylinder engine in the T6 seemed to be negated by the 4 speed transmission paired with it. The 2.5T seemed readily adequate for us. Some think the 2.5T a bit sluggish, but I don't agree.
    The gas mileage in the 2.5T is a plus as well.
    We avg. about 17-18 mpg city and 23-24 on hwy trips.

    In the end, the choice between the T6 and 2.5T is a personal preference.

    Good Luck!
  • rkuehnrkuehn Member Posts: 120
    Perhaps the best engine solution would be the 2.5T, the 5-speed auto it comes with, and a modification to the ECU? I've read that IPD is close to offering a chip that delivers 250 hp, 300 ftlbs. We'll see.

    Anybody here ever chipped a Volvo?
  • triceratops5triceratops5 Member Posts: 16
    Have only done one real freeway trip and ended up around 22 mpg...included some off freeway driving. So I guess that's in the normal range. It's the city (well actually suburban) mileage that's been bad. Someone should talk to Toyota about putting a hybrid in this thing.

    By the way, think that the 2.5T works great. Could maybe use a little more power sometimes getting up to freeway speed, say between 50-70 mph, but it really works just fine. It's a kid transporter, not a sports car.
  • mdomdmdomd Member Posts: 1
    As you know, some of XC90 04' owners have michelin tires with wrong stamps indicating the PSI only 35 not 44 on the side wall.
    I'm one of them.
    First time, I thought the tires were totally wrong.
    I called the Michelin USA & Volvo USA as well as my dealer(Westside Volvo in Culver City, CA) a month ago.
    Finally I got their final answer.
    They will send me a letter explaining this situation.
    And They will not replace my wrong tires with new ones even though they admitted my tires had wrong marks of max. PSI 35 on the side wall.

    As you know, Volvo recommends max. PSI 32-36/39 depending on the loading weight.(on the fuel filler door & on the certification label on the facing side of the driver's door).
    Almost all the other XC90s have Michelin Pilot HXMXM4 with max PSI 44 on it. Mine has only 35 not 44.

    Michelin & Volvo confirmed my tires are not different products from others but exactly the same ones under the same name "Pilot HXMXM4".
    Then isn't it a defective product, if the specification PSI mark is wrong on the side wall?
    I'm not talking about a misprint of a manual but a wrong stamp on the product itself. It's not a brand logo or mark but a safety-related essential stamp what the product should be.

    I don't think Michelin can sell this tire with a wrong PSI mark '35' to a customer at a tire shop.
    But is it OK Michelin sell it with XC90 to a Volvo customer?
    I don't understand!

    It IS a defective product which should have been discarded through the Quality Inspection process.

    I don't think I could sell my car as a used car with a letter from Volvo & Michelin explaining my tires with 35 PSI are the same ones with others with 44 PSI. How can he/she believe to inflate over the max PSI 35 on it.

    To replace defective tires with new ones is a basic courtesy to their customers. I think Volvo & Michelin both are responsible for this problem.

    I will fight up against two big dinosaur companies.
    Have a look at your tires' max PSI on the side walls of yours tonight.

    (P.S. Besides, I have to smash rear doors to close completely...
    I hear a tearing loud sound from rear speakers
    when I turn on the ignition...
    I have to turn off the DPII surround effect to
    get a clear radio signal...
    I still hear the whistle noise...
    I still have the hesitation at lower shifts...
    After the first maintenance check-up!
    The answer is always same...
    "...cannot duplicate..." )

    XC90 T6 '04 Crystal Green, 8500miles
  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    It has always been a permitted practice to overinflate passenger car tires for certain conditions, even though the sidewall says the max is a lower figure. However, it is a fairly recent change to actually reflect this in the sidewall stamping, the reasoning being that the conditions where overinflation were permitted were rare and would lead to confusion on the consumer's part.

    So this is a non-defect defect.

    I've forgotten the way it is phrased, but NHTSA (National Highway and Traffic Administration), for whom EVERYTHING is a defect, says that this would be an inconsequential defect and they do not even acknowledge official notification letters written to them by the tire manfacturers about this sort of thing, even though the tire manufacturers are obligated to do so. This particular item isn't even an item where an official notification letter has to be wriiten, because it is already covered by current practice and is not a safety issue.

    Hope this helps.
  • cheapskate7cheapskate7 Member Posts: 25
    Have difficulty closing rear doors. Perhaps sagging a bit. I recall someone having a similar problem on this or another message board being advised that a Service Bulletin exists related to it. Now cannot locate relevant postings. Help!
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