Volvo XC90 SUV

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  • soxfansoxfan Member Posts: 25
    my wife and i have 2 new v8's. zero problems to date - we're both around 8k miles. much more room than an x5, cheaper, with as much power. all the car nuts i've taken for a ride have loved driving it and riding in it. i'm an aggressive driver and i've been very pleased. boron roll cage and other safety features make this a no-brainer vs. the other luxury suv's. take advantage of the spike in gas prices to get a deal on one of these.
  • dogbert_ncdogbert_nc Member Posts: 7
    soxfan -

    What kind of gas mileage are you getting from your "aggressive driving"? Does your wife get different mileage (assuming she's less aggressive ;-)?

    Thx!
  • onawhimonawhim Member Posts: 9
    My husband surprised me with my dream car, a 2005 V8 in July. It has everything but the DVD and the Nav which was fine with me. I love the way this car handles. I had a Honda Odyssey which was a pain in the neck. The XC90 is so quiet and so smooth compared to the Honda. It is extremely versatile and while we were both worried that we would miss the size of the van, neither of us do. The car is reading about 18.5 mpg average combined highway and in town driving. This is pretty much what I expected. I often drive it with the instantaneous MPG readout so I can see where I am eating up lots of gas.

    I have had one problem so far and that is a strange whistle and grinding sound coming from a rear brake/wheel. The dealer said that a piece of metal was left from the factory that was rubbing the e disc. Don't ask me what that means. The mechanic removed the metal and problems are gone. AC is great, stereo is great, doors are staying shut. I can't imagine a better designed car. My husband wants to trade in his Audi for one now and we fight over who is going to drive on the long trips. It is a real treat.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    anyone got this one - an occasional "plink" or "ping" noise from the rear somewhere - happens every 5 or 10 minutes - usually while hitting a bump in the road - but also at other random times. the noise almost sounds 'electronic', like it's from a rear speaker. but i don't think that's it. it's probably too rare/obscure for the dealer to find it, but i suppose i'll mention it at next visit. another guess is that it's the rear window glass sliding/seating, but i doubt that too. it's a 2004 2.5T, awd, with versatility package.
    well, this really belongs in the problems & solutions forum. oops. ttfn...
  • soxfansoxfan Member Posts: 25
    i've been getting about 17-19 lately with premium gas, depending on my city/highway mix. my wife does a lot more driving around town and is a leadfoot as well (we were just chatting about this) and she's getting around 17 around town. the six speed transmission, if driven conservatively, helps a lot.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    snoop dogbert_mc, fwiw, i've run all sorts of tests with our 2.5T xc90 - the mpg is identical whether i use 87 octane or 91+ octane. i get 18 mpg when i drive it. my wife gets 20 mpg. yes, i am a leadfoot. and with my V8 australian car, tests indicate it gets 23 mpg highway on premium, 21 mpg city. so maybe your xc90 v8 acts more like my V8 pontiac than our 2.5T xc90 in this regards...
  • someguy1someguy1 Member Posts: 42
    Hey All,

    I am hoping to get people's experiences with XC90's(base model) and Gas Mileage on Highways. It would ultimately be a commuter car for me and I am on a budget. I spend 95% of my time on the highway.

    Car anyone help me with real expectations for highways mileage.

    Thanks,
    KA
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    22 mpg at 60. 20 mpg at 70. 18 mpg at 80.
    more speed, less mpg. we use exclusively 87 octane. 2.5T AWD.
    imho commuting in an xc90 is sort of a waste, but i do appreciate a reason to do it - it's the safest vehicle sold in USA. in my opinion and that of one of the editors here :)
  • abvbynd02abvbynd02 Member Posts: 5
    We have a loaded 2005 XC90 V8 with everything but DVD player. We are getting between 17-18 in the city and 22-23 on the highway. Very aggressive driving at 75-80 mph. We use Premiumn fuel (91), here in California. Very impressed with mileage, it is better than my sister's 2004 XC90 T6. One of my co-workers drives a new Toyota Sequoia V8 and can't get better than 16 on Highway. Needless to say he is jealous, and can't believe how great the ride is on the open road! This is the greatest vehicle to drive and on long trips.
  • abvbynd02abvbynd02 Member Posts: 5
    We have a loaded 2005 XC90 V8 with everything but DVD player. We have had absolutely no problems, shifting problems, virbrations, stalling, etc. This is a great vehicle with no issues at all! We are getting between 17-18 in the city and 22-23 on the highway. Very aggressive driving at 75-80 mph. We use Premiumn fuel (91), here in California. Very impressed with mileage, it is better than my sister's 2004 XC90 T6. One of my co-workers drives a new Toyota Sequoia V8 and can't get better than 16 on Highway. Needless to say he is jealous, and can't believe how great the ride is on the open road! This is the greatest vehicle to drive and on long trips.
  • skimbearskimbear Member Posts: 20
    I have a 2005 XC90 2.5T AWD with 3rd row seats. I only have one child, so most of the time the 3rd row is not used. I've only used 91 octane and have been averaging just below 16 MPG. I live in Los Angeles, so a lot of stop and go driving and the A/C is on most of the time. But still 16 MPG average is quite a bit less than the EPA rating of 18/23. Considering this is an SUV, the gas mileage is not too bothersome. But what's irritating is the small gas tank. I'm having to fill up at least twice a week, and I been putting on about 1,500 miles per month. I would like to know what kind of MPG others have been getting on similarly equipped XC90.
  • tshentshen Member Posts: 4
    Has anyone install Bluetooth in their XC90? Can you share your experience with this new gadget? And how much did you pay for this at the dealer?

    thanks,
    tony
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    I average low 20's but in a more rural setting. Even when towing a small travel trailer I get around 17. An informal owner survey on one of the other forums showed 27 out of 34 2.5T owners averaged 17 or better.

    Bottom line is it's a heavy car and sensitive to driving conditions and style. Stop-and-go, rapid accelerations or continuous speed over 65 kill the gas mileage. Things that can help are to keep the tires inflated for the load, use synthetic oil and drive deliberately.
  • jtlajtla Member Posts: 388
    skimbear,
    I would settle for your number. We have a 2005 XC90 2.5T AWD just like yours for about a year now, and get only 14 MPG on mostly short distance driving (5 miles radius) with lots of stop signs. It is disappointing, but seeing the results posted by others on this board, I guess we can only blame on our driving pattern. :(
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    skimbear, i think your gas tank is 3 gallons bigger than the tanks on our 2004s! 2004 is 18gallon, 2005 is 21 gallon. i wish ours had the 21 gallon tank like yours. even more, i'd like a diesel xc90 in USA !
  • jccai1jccai1 Member Posts: 113
    I also have a 2005 2.5T AWD w/ 3rd row seat. Mine also has the annoyingly small 18 gallon tank. I think those made later in 2005 may have the 21 gallon tank. I didn't know this when I bought mine.

    In mostly city commute, with 2 people, no cargo and A/C on all the time, using premium (91) gas exclusively, I get 15 to 17 mpg, though on most tanks this summer it's been below 16mpg. I've only done a couple of all-hwy road trips in it, and I got 21 to 22 mpg cruising at 70.
  • skimbearskimbear Member Posts: 20
    My complaint might give the impression that I don't like the XC90. In fairness to Volvo, I want to let potential owners know that I'm very happy w/ it in most other aspects. Had a problem with the driver's seat memory setting, but it was solved after some software downloads by a Volvo factory technician, not a dealer mechanic. The ride and handling are very good. Being a safety nut, I also had a 2004 SAAB 9-5. Dollar for dollar, I think Volvo is a much better value and has better workmanship, although I miss the quirkiness of SAAB.
  • bc13bc13 Member Posts: 32
    Hi to all. I am thinking of buying an XC90. I have three children. I like the idea of the 3rd row seat, but I am worried about putting a child in the 3rd row, should i be involved in a rear end accident. any thoughts on the safety of this location? I don't believe any one actually does rear end crash tests. It just seems that the 3rd row would/could be in the crumple zone if involved in a serious rear end crash. Thanks in advance for any input.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    Actually I think the XC90 is the ONLY one that does 3rd row crash tests (rear ending)...including mini-vans.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The posts over in the Danger of third row seats - may kill your kids? discussion may interest you.

    Steve, Host
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Volvo is developing a smaller off-roader than its existing XC90.

    Volvo Working on Compact SUV for Beneath XC90 (Inside Line)

    Steve, Host
  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    I have seen some simulation of how the XC behave in a rear end impact. I think this is the only one designed to protect the 3rd row occupants. Even the spare tire and wheel are put to contribution to absorb a rear impact. This is the safest 3 row vehicle.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Old news.
    The XC50 has been killed and re-started a couple of times now.
    Looks like 2008 for it to arrive.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Volvo does extensive crash testing in all areas of vehicle impact.
  • 1sttimevolvo11sttimevolvo1 Member Posts: 189
    Our experience had been 18 mpg city and 23 mpg hwy during the first 9 - 12 months of ownership with our `04 2.5T AWD.
    My wife takes all the back county roads into work - about a 20 mile drive. Lots of curves and several stop signs - thus, about 17.5 to 18 mpg to and from work. She hates taking the interstate because of traffic. With the rise in gas prices, she was forced to reconsider driving the interstates to and from work. She re-evaluated her driving habits and changed them. She still takes the back way to work, but accelerates slower at take-off and comes to a more gradual stop.
    Amazingly, she now gets anywhere from 20 to 22 mpg on back country roads. Carrying this over to interstate driving has allowed us to get about 25 mpg hwy. :D
  • jc04jc04 Member Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    Could any of you give me some tips regarding the best winter preparation for the XC90 in what concerns weels/tires and snow chains, according to your experience?
    Tks :D
  • skimbearskimbear Member Posts: 20
    I have a 2005 2.5T AWD. Has anybody tried the snow chains sold by Volvo? I saw them on Volvo's website for $300. Are they worth the $300?
  • xc90xtcxc90xtc Member Posts: 10
    Anybody have any comments about a break-in period for V8 and other motors?
    It used to be, back in the 70's and such, that a period of time with lower RPM's was recommended for a car engine to "settle in" and seals/gaskets to tighten up. Just wondering.....
    So far, no problems with our '06 V-8 :shades:
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Don't redline the engine for the first 1000 miles, otherwise thats it.
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    They are top quality, low-profile chains with a precise fit for the XC90's tires and they come in a nice carry bag. They can be had for around $245. Other than that they are not much different than some others you could buy for less.
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    That's an awfully general question. The answer depends on your state laws and local driving conditions. The main thing to be aware of is that the stock tires are, at best, marginal for winter use. If that seems surprising for a car made in Sweden, consider that they routinely use dedicated snow tires for winter. Volvo sells Gislaved winter tires which are excellent (that's what I have) but there are many other good choices.

    Summer stinks, think snow!
  • klockboyklockboy Member Posts: 33
    Hello All:

    Just a quick message on my MPG Experience. I am actually a real stickler when it comes to Air Pressure in my tires (I actually have a digital gauge and my neighbors have seen me more than once pumping up/taking out air in my tires), however when the seasons changed from summer to fall I overlooked a fairly large change in my tire pressure. I checked it on all 4 tires the other day and noticed 33 PSI in each tire. I thought, "Wow", maybe that is the reason we have only been averaging around 14 MPG/City and 18/19 Highway (my wife and I are not aggressive drivers).

    Well... since inflating all 4 tires to the recommended 39 PSI, I can verify that our mileage has gone up quite a bit. We recently took a 75 mile trip and I noticed an average MPG of approx. 24 (cruise control set at 65 MPH). I was really amazed. Also, our city MPG has improved to 16-17.

    In conclusion, I can say with much confidence, that checking your tire pressure, especially during seasonal changes, can be one of the most important things you can do to help with fuel efficiency. It worked for me and I am sure it can work for you.

    Form here on out, I will be checking my pressure every 2 weeks. The benefits far outweigh the 5-10 minutes of work for this routine maintenance schedule.

    Take Care...
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    "the real beauty of the program comes from the extensive range of travel options offered by Volvo. Beyond the included airfare, hotel night, factory tour and premium delivery experience that every OSD customer gets, there are several travel options that can be purchased at extremely competitive rates."

    Volvo's Overseas Delivery Program (Inside Line)

    Steve, Host
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    Careful with using the maximum 39 psi pressure all the time because it is meant for full load. With a light load, running that much pressure will affect the ride and handling. Maximum pressure is particularly bad in low-traction situations like rain, snow or dirt where you want a wider footprint. If gas mileage is your priority, then by all means air it up. And, as you point out, checking the pressure is a good habit to get into--in fact, I think I'll go do it right now! :)

    I notice that the Tire Pressure Monitoring System (is that available yet?) requires a constant 39 psi according to the manual but they don't tell you that will cause a harsher ride and loss of traction. Personally, I run 34 psi most of the time and air up to 36 front/39 rear when towing.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    I stopped by the Volvo dealership yesterday to compare the XC90 to the new Jeep Commander. I really liked the Volvo as it has all of the features and amenities that I like.

    The one thing that bothers me is that the sunvisors don't move once you swing them to the side. Has that been a problem for any of you? It seems that all of the Volvo's have non-sliding sunvisors.

    When the sales manager heard that I was comparing the XC to the Commander, he wanted to point out that the Jeep is on the the extended chassis from the Grand Cherokee...

    A fellow on the Jeep site told me that the XC is an extended frame from the S80 Volvo, the sales manager never mentioned that! So, I'm going to assume if a frame has been extended for a new and different model, it shouldn't be a problem.

    Also, the S80 is not a truck frame like the Grand Cherokee, that would make me wonder about the strength of the Volvo frame compared to the Commander frame.

    Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated as I'm going to decide in about 3 weeks which vehicle that I will choose.

    PS. Just a note, the Volvo is $54,000 loaded out and the Jeep is $44,000 loaded out. The Jeep has tire pressure monitors built in.

    Mark156 :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • buroskyburosky Member Posts: 90
    Just thought I'd mention. Check out the volvo website with regards to the OSD program or check out post #4396. It's a very interesting program offered by Volvo. I would have done that if I knew about it before I got my XC. By the way, I also considered the Commander when I was shopping around. Two things made me take the jeep out of my list. Personally, I prefer to wait for a new model to "settle in" first before I really consider it. Being a new model, I think it takes a few years before all the bugs are worked out. The XC was not immune to that. I think though that most of the bugs have been all worked out for 2004 and newer models. Secondly, as a matter of preference, I thought the XC offered more of the features I was looking for and on top of that looked better. Just my .02 cents.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Well, the Volvo will tow 5000 lbs.
    It has a roof crush limit of 78,000 lbs.
    Boron steel integrated into the roll cage.
    Pretty strong car.
  • volvodan1volvodan1 Member Posts: 188
    What volvomax said........I think the point was with the S80 you are riding on a luxury car platform versus a truck type platform. For real world purposes the only advantage for the Commander frame would be towing, but are you going to tow more than 5,000 lbs?

    What does "strong" mean to you?
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Hmmmm, "strong".... well, if either of the vehicles were stuck in the sand or mud, which ever could pull the other out would be the "strong" unit.

    Honestly, I probably will never tow anything, but, I have an antique car that is quite heavy and if I need to tow it, I want the ability to do it. I'm sure it weighs 6,000 lbs or more. I'll have to check it. It has a 6.25 liter engine to pull it's weight and does manage it quite well.

    Back to the Volvo, if there is not a 'fix' for the non-moving sunvisors (looked on the internet for an attachment) then I can't get it as the sun will burn the side of my face while driving across country which I do every December and January going from my home in the south to my home in the southern California desert (1,800 miles). The sun is low in the sky at this time of year and is a necessity

    Mark :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • volvodan1volvodan1 Member Posts: 188
    Why would you buy a vehicle based on the fact that you "might" tow it once. Buy the vehicle that fits your needs the best. You can pay $100 to have your antique towed. :)

    Maybe there is a solution to the visor issue. I haven't come across that one.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Volvodan1, no, I'm not picking either vehicle for it's towing ability per se.

    I should have mentioned why I made that statement as you can't read my mind. :P

    When I was a looking at the Volvo XC90, my salesman mentioned to the sales manager that I was comparing the XC to the Jeep Commander. The SM said, did you know that the Jeep is an extended chassis of the Grand Cherokee. I didn't know that and really wasn't concerned about it. That's when I found out that the Volvo XC90 is an extended chassis of the S80 (not even a truck frame, if that makes any difference). The SM didn't mention that.

    So, my assumption is that it must not make a big difference if a frame has been extended for another model. The Volvo SM made it sound like it was "taboo" that the Commander is on the Grand Cherokee frame. The Commander is only 3 inches longer than the GC.

    The Volvo is a sharp looking vehicle as is the Commander. It is going to be very tough to make a choice. My salesman's assistant said I could easily find an extender for the Volvo sun visor but I have not found anything but a real bulky type that is banded around the sun visor. It wouldn't look very attractive. When the assistant told me that, I said, "are you sure?" he said, yes. So, when I go back in early December to test drive the Volvo, I will want him to show me on the computer where he has found it.

    Also, I'm surprised that this sun visor issue has not come up before, is it just me that it bothers? :confuse:

    Mark :)
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    Also, I'm surprised that this sun visor issue has not come up before, is it just me that it bothers?

    It appears that way :P

    I don’t even know if any of the cars I’ve ever owned had “extended side visors”...or side sun visors.

    If the sun gets in my eyes I put on my shades...if too much sun is consistently getting through I get it tinted.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,785
    your antique is one of the british vehicles with 'adequate' power?
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Yes, it is a British vehicle that sometimes will "fail to proceed". :blush:

    Mark
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • habitat1habitat1 Member Posts: 4,282
    My 2 cents, for what it's not worth:

    (1) $54,000 is too much to pay for an XC90 V8. They are being discounted by $6,000+ here in the DC area, and I can't imagine not being able to get a nicely loaded one for the mid to high $40's.

    (2) $44,000 is WAY too much to pay for a Jeep anything. They depreciate like a rock and their fit and finish is despicable. Sorry, I just have no tolerance for that. It's one thing to buy a Liberty for $18k because that's all you can afford. But to hand Jeep $44k is rewarding failure.

    (3) Really want a truck frame, get a $50k GX470 instead of the Jeep. Want bigger, get a Sequoia, Either will be worth twice as much (or more) than the Jeep in 3-4 years. And I say this not as an owner or particular fan of Lexus or Toyota. We have an MDX.

    (4) Making any $50k +/- decision on the basis of window visors? Are you nuts?!? :confuse: I sympathize with your situation, but there has to be an acceptable solution that doesn't cause you to buy a piece of crap vehicle with a great sunvisor (and a few were suggested).
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,785
    skip #3 and the rest is pretty good.
    based on the previous post of maybe towing once, just rent the appropriate vehicle or hire someone.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Habitat1, I know you have been here on Edmunds for a long time as I have.

    I disagree with about everything you just said in the above post.

    First, no one needs to pay list for an SUV...the discounts should be rather large. Of course people are paying less. You try to find a vehicle as loaded as the Commander and tell me which one you find for less money. And, please don't say Ford, it's not in the running. Maybe the Cadillac SXR, but the egress and ingess is difficult. I do like the automatic third seats tho.

    Second, the fit and finish of the Jeep is not bad at all. And again, $44,000 is not what people are paying. My two Jeeps didn't depreciate like a rock ('96 and '99).

    The Jeep Commander at $44,000 is fully loaded with leather, Navigational, rear bumper sensors, Quadra drive II, a 5.7 HEMI V-8, three seats and tire pressure monitors. Seems like a good value to me.

    Thirdly, the GX is a not that great of a vehicle as far as that huge "backwards" swing-out door... I don't understand that. Will not work for me. And, the third seat does not fold flat, they hang on the side taking up space.

    The MDX is nice but getting ready to change; they are nice vehicles for sure.

    I know it sounds crazy, but when I drive across the country during the winter months, the sun is very low in the sky. I need for my visors to move once your swing them to the side. It is so important if you have ever been in that situation. The sun will burn the heck out of your face. It happened with my '99 Jeep, they didn't have adjustable sun visors in '99. I noticed in 2000 they put them in and I replaced mine and I was a happy camper.

    Fully adjustable sun visors are a must! I'm surprised Volvo doesn't have them as they are supposed to be the "safest" vehicle. I am still considering buying one and if I do, I will come up with something to accomodate the low sun in the winter sky whether it be heavy tinting or an attachment to the sun visor. I just can't believe no one has a had problem with this.

    I have 3 weeks before I decide on the SUV I buy...

    1) Jeep Commander
    2) Volvo XC90
    3) Land Rover LR3

    Happy Motoring to everyone! Mark :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    I've had my XC90 for 18 months. In Quebec up here the sun stays very low in the winter. Never even noticed that the sun visors did not have extensions.

    BTW, the more I drive it, the more I like (love?) it!

    Guy :)
  • volvodan1volvodan1 Member Posts: 188
    The 06 SRX's have revisions to remedy the egress problems.

    You have 2 sides of the spectrum for depreciation between the Volvo and the Jeep.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Dan, I see that you sell automobiles, could you elabarate on the "depreciation spectrum"?
    What do you say to your customers when they see you drive up in your Aztek and that are you are not driving a Volvo?

    I didn't know that Cadillac made a revision on the egress of the SRX. Getting out of the vehicle WAS a problem.

    I haven't driven the XC90 yet nor the Commander or the LR3. That will happen in about 3 weeks when I will be ready. There may be no comparison as one vehicle might immediately jump to the top or I might be confused as ever. :confuse:

    Thanks, Mark
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
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