Volvo XC90 SUV

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  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    Your friend stated the 90% of the XC90's at auctions are T6. It tends to confirms that T6 drivers are not all that pleased. I do not think that sales of new XC's was so much biased toward the T6. For me, it means owners with the 2.5T just keep their 2.5T longer.
  • macnechtanmacnechtan Member Posts: 11
    Well, that's what I've been mulling over and I'm glad to hear someone else say it. The 2.5T AWDs on the market that I've found so far have been in unappealing colour combinations for me (navy blue/charcoal interior and black/charcoal interior). I'd spend all summer trying to cool down the inside of my car. You all have been right so far as my taste goes - red/taupe interior. Also I like the light green/taupe interior. But finding one used, now there's the rub. Quite a few 2003 XC90s are beginning to come out of their leases and appear on the market. Not many 04s and very few 05s. BTW I'm definitely going to purchase an extended warranty. We did that for our 850 and it paid for itself quite easily.

    Volvomax, can you shed light on the 2.5T AWD scarcity? Did many more people purchase the T6s? Also, if you had leased any, was it more likely to be a T6?

    I'm going to hold out a few months and try to find a 2.5T AWD (late 04 or 05) before I revisit my plan. However, if I find a cream puff of a T6, I'm going to have some hard thoughts about it :confuse: . I'm also wondering if a few more XC90s will appear on the market after the 07s start making it to showrooms. Isn't that supposed to be August?
  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    You could probably get a good deal on a left over 2.5T once the 07 start coming in. It's the last year of the 2.5T.

    Good luck! ;)
  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    Everybody saw the ad where the V8 XC90 is now offered on a 24 months lease for $389. per month.

    On the Volvo Canada site I configured the very same car, similar mileage allowance then converted the down payment to CDN$ and made the calculation. I then reconverted the monthly payement in US $.

    The result: $958.88 per month!!!!

    No wonder I will buy my next vehicle in the US! :mad:
  • bc13bc13 Member Posts: 32
    Hi volvomax. any chance of seeing a diesel xc90 in the next 2 years?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    The reason that so many T6's are at the auction is because that is what was built in 03 and early 04.
    Most of the early leases were done on the T6's.
    Very few 5 cyl's were ordered.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Hi volvomax. any chance of seeing a diesel xc90 in the next 2 years?

    No chance. It will be at least 3-4 yrs before a diesel XC90 is offered for sale here.
  • kaitlynangelkaitlynangel Member Posts: 3
    We are looking into Leasing a XC90 but we haven't stepped foot into the dealership yet, we want to be throughly prepared. Is there ever an offer before the lease terminates to re-lease the car for a lower price? If so how much in general? Is preventive maintanence included with leases?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Please visit this discussion and tell us about them:

    macnechtan, "Your favorite tires - Volvo XC 90" #2, 4 Aug 2006 9:08 am
  • cmnottcmnott Member Posts: 200
    It has been great. Have already done a trip from Ottawa to Niagara Falls and the new motor is a gem. The six speed tranny is learning but it has already strated being more assertive in decision-making. The car would immediately go from first to second in a way to preserve fuel economy. Problem is the car is a dog and seems dull. Well, let me tell you, after 2000kms the tranny has quickly learned its way. Crisp shifts coupled with the super smooth I6 has left me very impressed.

    It sounds like an X5. It sounds, dare I say right, right. As much as the 2.5T does the job, it leaves a little on the plate as far as refinement. Not this engine. It is also quicker. Did I mention it sounds great?

    We averaged 21-22mpg on the highway with this green engine while averageing a steady 75-80mph. Over 400 miles on a tank and if I would have chosen to go slower would have gotten much more. the trip to Nigara Falls left me refreshed, except dealing with the bloody traffic!

    So far, so good. I like the new touches for '07 and am happy i did't go with the Land Rover LR3. This car in Lava Sand/Taupe looks great and although the steering isn't the greatest, this cra is. to me, the best family transportation one could ask for!
  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    Just went to PEI from Quebec City and back in my 04 2.5T. 1,400 miles total including 2 - 9 hours stints at the wheel. Average speed for the whole trip (from the computer) 62 mph. Was driving the highway between 60-80 mph. 21.4 mpg US overall. The best part is that even after 9 hours at the wheel, (with a couple of mandatory pit stops, of course) whe felt fresh and ready to move on.
  • guyfguyf Member Posts: 456
    How much did you pay for your XC and what packages and options do you have? Thanks.
  • soxfansoxfan Member Posts: 25
    volvomax - now that the '07s are in, any more color on the possibility of upgrading the old audio system for the new ipod connection? thanks
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    FAIK, it is not possible to upgrade the sound system.
  • cmnottcmnott Member Posts: 200
    It has everything except the RSe and Nav and I beleive the price was 65K, a good 3500 off list for the first 07s. A great dealership who want my business.
  • hongzhong2hongzhong2 Member Posts: 5
    Hi all, I recently bought a used 2006 xc90 v8, which is due for the 15k mile service. Want is a reasonable price I should expect for the service charge? Do you know any honest Volvo dealer in NJ/NY area to recommend for the servicing? Thanks a lot.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    the reasonable price for a 15k service is maybe $50 for the oil change, plus $20 if the tires need rotation front to back.
    what are the 15k service items listed from your owners manual? post them here and i will gladly annotate them to indicate which ones are nonsense/gifting-$-to-dealer and which ones are for real.
    i suspect that at 15k the only real/required service is an oil change and maybe tire rotation. so the right price for that would be $30 to $70, maybe a bit more since volvo specifies synthetic oil now! cheers...
  • hongzhong2hongzhong2 Member Posts: 5
    Hi elias, thanks a lot for your help. Here is the 15k maintenance operations list:

    * Engine oil and filter
    * Service reminder reset
    * Coolant level check/adjust

    * Power steering fluid level, check/adjust
    * Bevel gear, visual inspection
    * Washer fluid level, check/adjust
    * Check all wiper blades

    * Cabin air filter, replace
    * Brake fluid level, check
    * Parking brake, check/adjust
    * Tires, check pressure, wear and condition
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The Edmunds Maintenance Guide will tell you what the manufacturer recommends for your 15k service and will estimate what it should cost for your zip code.
  • macnechtanmacnechtan Member Posts: 11
    Hello everyone. Thanks for all your help and advice over the past few weeks. I've purchased my XC90 and couldn't be happier.

    It is a 2005 2.5T AWD, crystal green with taupe interior. It has the premium package as well as versatility, climate, auto-dimming rear view mirror, and wood steering wheel (my favorite!). I'll purchase a portable DVD player for the kids and a nav system for myself a little later. For now, I'm enjoying the SUV. It's so easy to get used to driving it. I'm hauling lots of children around and still enjoying the car and the drive - amazing!.

    I took it to my local dealer who promptly told me to buy new tires (it has Pirelli Scorpion Zero's). It has 17" wheels, so I've a lot of options. The dealer performed the complete once-over, took care of the tie-rod recall; replaced the ball joints; adjusted the toe front and back; and checked the alignment. They said they noticed that the tires weren't wearing properly and the drive wasn't as smooth as it should be, and they think this'll fix it. Lo and behold, the drive is definitely smoother than ever. All this taken care of for free under the 30K service and the recall notices.

    I thought I'd never be able to haul five children and a large dog around in a car I like to drive, but Volvo's done it. And I still own my sporty car when I feel like zipping around and getting it all out of my system ;) .
  • guyfrguyfr Member Posts: 55
    Congrats!

    Nokian WR's is a good option if you live in the snow belt and don't want 2 sets of tires and wheels.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    you are most welcome, hongzhong2.
    i think the only important item in the list is the oil change.
    i bet the cabin air filter is not dirty yet, so you could skip that too at your discretion. all the other items are fluff or things that you probably can do. check fluids levels, check tire wear & pressure.
    as for bevel gear - like many of the items on the list - if it does have a problem within warranty, it is covered, no matter whether you paid them to "inspect" it during routine maintenance or not.
  • lmgkeyslmgkeys Member Posts: 20
    We are torn between purchasing a 2006 V8 or the 2007 V6. We test drove the V8 and was very impressed with the power, however, we are looking at getting a brand new 2007 V6 for the same price as a 2006 V8 demo. Can anyone tell me if the 2007 V6 has enough power for the car? Any other advice to help us choose between the two would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    You should really test drive the V6. Don't let anyone tell you that a vehicle has enough power for you -- it's very subjective. If you were "very impressed" by the power of the V8, you might be disappointed with the V6. Or you might like the V6 a lot.
  • hongzhong2hongzhong2 Member Posts: 5
    elias, thank you very much for your help.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    you are most welcome Hongzhong2. cheers !
  • cmnottcmnott Member Posts: 200
    I went thru the exact same predicament and went with the 07. I liked the new features for 07 and the I6 is a good step up from the 2.5T.

    Here is a pic or two.

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  • lmgkeyslmgkeys Member Posts: 20
    Do you have the I6? The car is beautiful. If you have the I6, do you find that it has enough "get up and go" when needed? I really like the car. Any other feedback? We are really torn and have not yet driven the I6. We test drive the 2006 V8. We have four kids and they loved the car and enjoyed the ride and didn't mind the fit but any real life experiences would help me out a lot. Thanks.
  • cmnottcmnott Member Posts: 200
    Thanks!

    Yes, we have the I6 and it is a step up from the 2.5T. To me, it is a significant step because you have 27 more bhp, same weight, same torque ( albeit probably a different torque curve) and 6 speeds. I have hammered it and honestly, it is more than enough.

    I drove the V8 as well and obviously in comparison the V8 takes the cake. It is a monster, reminds me of my 2005 Mustang GT. It came down to me not needing a V8 for my wife to go about her business and choosing the refreshed interior/exterior, a refined powerplant and tranny combo. The 2006 parked beside the 2007 for me was the kicker. Same colours, the 2007 looked more X5 and the 2006 looked more LR3, interms of purpose. I think the 2007 looks clearly to be an onroad vehicle with its painted bumpers, etc...while the 2006 looks like a vehicle that may be capable in the rough stuff with the rubber bumpers and trim.

    Either way they are both great, having taken the I6 on an 800mile trip, the car was great and had good passinf power. It also sounds great!
  • guyfrguyfr Member Posts: 55
    Congrats, looks great!

    How do you like the 6 speed transmission?
  • ecloueclou Member Posts: 20
    The smoothness of the V8/6spd powertrain is very impressive. I just drove a 1700mile round trip journey with 2 7month old twins in my new 06 V8. Got 21mpg at 80-85mph and was very pleased at the great power of this vehicle. Passing power galore, which I think surprised many other motorists. Coming from an 04 V8 Touareg, there is no comparison. The VW throttle is very hard to modulate and "tip-in" and the shifting is either abrupt or extremely lazy. The Volvo has no such maddening quirks.

    The 06 V8 would be my choice over the I6. Just listen to the deep exhaust note. It is intoxicating.
  • cmnottcmnott Member Posts: 200
    At first it was quite odd, it felt like too many gears, but I guess once the learning os done, it is actually quite good. it sometimes still is indecisive and will kick down twice because the ratios are there, but it is overall very smooth and I notice in traffic that it will crawl in a lower gear, thus improving fuel economy.
  • lmgkeyslmgkeys Member Posts: 20
    Thanks for the information. We are still shopping and leaning towards the I6. I prefer the idea of the brand new car and do like the look of the 2007. Thanks!
  • wpowellwpowell Member Posts: 125
    I searched several of the XC90 forums and couldn't kick up the answer to my question. Does anyone know what size wrench is required for the oil filter canister (plastic housing) on an '04 T5? I assume I need the "socket" style to keep from damaging the housing. Are they readily available at the big box auto parts stores?

    Second question, and I confess I didn't search to see if this has been covered--apologies if it has. Any way to reset the "scheduled maintenance" message when performing routine maintenance at home? Thanks in advance for your help!
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    I got mine at the Volvo dealer along with a box of filter inserts and a bag of washers for the drain plug. They were running a periodic 15% off at the time.

    To reset service message:

    1. With key in ignition, press and hold the trip button.
    2. Turn key to position I.
    3. When trip goes to 0, turn key the position II.
    4. Wait until trip goes back to the previous trip mileage (about 7 sec).
    5. Count 3 flashes of the orange triangle and release trip button.
    6. Turn off ignition and restart to verify light went out.
  • wpowellwpowell Member Posts: 125
    Thanks Bigeddy, just what I was looking for on the message reset. Found the filter wrench on eBay for about $10 shipped (from China, I suppose) just in case anyone else is looking. Thanks again!
  • l00q6227l00q6227 Member Posts: 16
    I am trying to lease a 2007 Volvo XC90 v6 with NAV in it and I being told there are 2 in the whole area and the dealers are not willing to trade. I have tried 4 dealerships and I can't find where the dealers that have them are at. This is unreal
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    It's an expensive option and most consumers aren't willing to pay the $2k extra to have it.
    Dealers only stock what they can move quickly. With the XC90 3.2 there is a conscious effort to keep the price down on the car to compete w/ the lower priced SUV's.
  • lee700lee700 Member Posts: 7
    I usually change the oil myself on my other autos and was a little dismayed when I started looking around for the plug and filter on my 04 T5. Do you have to remove the shield underneath to get to them?

    Thanks
    Lee
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    That's right. 5 bolts if I remember. BTW, the T5 engine has never been available in the XC90. You have the 2.5T. ;)
  • renhackrenhack Member Posts: 1
    We just picked up an XC90 a couple weeks ago and without thinking we ordered the wing crossbars. My wife and I are avid snowboarders and go nearly every weekend during the winter. Has anyone had any luck attaching Yakima accessories to these crossbars? We use the largest lift ticket carrier and im wondering if the curve of the bar will effect the mounting. This is assuming the mighty mounts work. So that would be my second question. Do the mighty mounts fit? The wing bars are pretty wide.

    I'd hate to get Yakima crosbars but if i have to I may be selling a brand new never been mounted set of wings. Oh well.

    Thanks for any help
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    I had the same problem a couple years ago. The MightyMount 14H was the closest fit and I use it for a kayak carrier. Another approach is a Volvo adapter kit which consists of bolts that slide into the center channel of the wing crossbars; this might work depending on how your rack is secured.

    The wing crossbars are not only hard to use with non-Volvo racks, their arch and relative narrowness limit what they can carry. For example, a flat-water canoe is too wide to fit. For many things, standard straight crossbars work better (Yakima or Thule).
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Volvo also offers the straight cross bars for the XC90.
    The wing bars look nice, but they aren't as useful.
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    I think the straight Volvo bars and most Volvo racks are Thule.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    That is correct
  • jccai1jccai1 Member Posts: 113
    When I was shopping for my 2005, I had the same problem. Couldn't find one with the nav regardless of body color. Finally the dealer had one that someone else special ordered and he gave me a demo of the nav system. I was not impressed at all. By comparison, the nav in my friend's Acura was clearly superior in both feature and ease of use. So I decided to save my 2G.

    After I bought the car, I bought a Garmin unit for $800 (less expensive models also available), which I've been very happy with. Plus I can use it in my other car, too. The only down side is the built-in GPS antenna of these portable units is not as sensitive as the GPS antenna on the car, so you occasionally lose reception in areas with lots of tall buildings.
  • fluid15fluid15 Member Posts: 60
    I also checked out the Nav and was not impressed therefore won't be looking for one with it. The Acura Nav was indeed impressive but my wife thinks it looks too boring (I agree) and it's in the last year of it's body style.
  • bigeddybigeddy Member Posts: 181
    Acura's nav system is a little better than Volvo's in some ways but it is not "clearly superior in both feature and ease of use." Both systems have their specific design approach with resulting advantages and disadvantages. It takes time to learn all the features and, unfortunately, few salesmen know much more than turning on the nav system and setting a destination by the main screen. Some of Volvo's strengths are safety, the split-screen display, and multiple query methods.

    Garmin makes nice systems (I have had several of their handhelds) but they, too, have their advantages and disadvantages compared to an integrated car system. The lack of integration, small screen, mounting, wires, theft potential, etc. are some of the down sides you don't mention.
  • dimaddimad Member Posts: 5
    Does somebody have running board on XC90? Does it help to get into the car?
    My elderly parents have trouble to get in. Thanks for advice.
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