Dodge Ram: Problems & Solutions

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  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Hiya Lee :)

    For those who have never heard the "clunk" of the gid heater, here's something to try out: if it's cold enough for the wait-to-start light, get in the driver's seat, buckle up right away to avoid the buzzer/chime, then turn the key to On, (but not Start). Lower your window while the WTS light is on. When it goes out, you will hear an audible "thunk" from the hood/engine area - cycle the heater again by turning the key to Off, then On, and you will hear the heater thunk again when the WTS light goes out.

    Just like the whine of the turbo, I'd be concerned f I didn't hear it!

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  • peppe1peppe1 Member Posts: 54
    My 02 4.7l 2wd Quad radio does the same occasionally when you turn the key back and only twice the erroneous lamp out ,or was it low wash, light lite along with a chime.
  • texaszachtexaszach Member Posts: 119
    I've read some describe the 6 speed that is used with the Cummins as somewhat "clunky" or uncertain, causing one to search for the gears when shifting. I'm not sure if these folks expect the silky smoothness of say, a Honda manual transmission as this is a truck capable of towing a lot of weight. How difficult was it for you to acclimate yourself to the 6, any problems at all?
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Personally, I think the six-speed in the Dodge is about the best "feeling" manual I've encountered in a truck. The five-speed sucks, as not only does if feel very "clunky" it has some bad power gaps. The six is nicely geared, not too far of a throw (considering it's a truck), and the shifts feel very natural unless you start skipping gears. I've found for maximum acceleration around town I like to start in 2nd and then skip 3rd. Works great unless you accidently hit 6th, which is very easy to do.

    95% of my miles are with 12,000#-16,000# behind it though, so I'm not skipping gears too often. Shifts excellent with a load on and I've never had a problem with the transition from 6th to 5th for pulling the bigger hills. Our horse trainer drives the truck alot also and he says it shifts and drives better than any manual tranny truck he's driven, and he's driven a lot of them too.
  • loncrayloncray Member Posts: 301
    I'm kind of an odd case - I came into my 6sp Ram after 11 years of driving an automatic Integra. Only manual transmission car I ever owned was my first - a '77 VW Dasher wagon, and that was long ago enough that I have no memory of how that thing shifted. That said, I had no real problems learning how to shift the 6-speed. Every now and again I've caught 3d when I wanted 5th, but that's me not wanting to hit Reverse at highway speeds. I don't grind gears, though I do occasionally lug the engine just a bit.
  • rossn2rossn2 Member Posts: 16
    2004 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 SLT with Cummins HO and 6 spd.

    According to the owners manual, when you start the engine it's suppose to have a higher idle (1000rpm) when it's cold (below 63degrees). I have had the grid warmer kicking in, but the idle stays the same, around 700rpm.

    Is this normal operation for the Cummins?

    thanks
  • texaszachtexaszach Member Posts: 119
    Excellent gentleman, thanks for your feedback. I've owned two Power Strokes, one an automatic, the other a manual, I really prefer a manual behind a diesel. Been debating on a Hemi versus a Cummins in the Dodge I'm about to order. I don't pull heavy trailers any more nor do I put enough miles on to justify the diesel any more.
  • loncrayloncray Member Posts: 301
    I got my Cummins HO even though I don't pull a trailer, nor do I intend to in the next few years. I justified the expensive diesel to myself two ways: 1) the mileage is fantastic, even hauling around a heavy truck. The Hemi (which wasn't out yet when I got my truck) almost requires you get a tank trailer to haul the gasoline with you - and B) it was simple lust. That big dumptruck engine feels and sounds like nothing else on the road not requiring a CDL.
  • hemidavehemidave Member Posts: 3
    Since I posted message #378, I have another 2000 miles on my truck. It still is/was stalling on me. I could never really predict when it would stall. I once went almost a month between bouts of stalling. The majority of stalls seem to occur when I let off the accelerator and am in coast mode... whether to a stop or going down an incline on a street or freeway. If I'm going over 30mph, it will usually come back to life before I have time to limp over to the shoulder and re-start it. Dealer service has had it for two weeks in the last three. First trip in, they replaced the "crank sensor". This did not fix it. It promptly stalled. Second trip in, they asked permission for the mechanic to drive it home so he could put some miles on it with his diagnostic computer in "copilot" mode which he can apparently capture engine parameters "in the act" when it stalls. The mechanic could never get it to stall and it never has thrown an error code. This time, they replaced the "PCM" module. Anyone know what this is? I have the truck back now for 24hrs and no stalls yet. If it goes in one more time for this problem, with continuing symptoms, I'm exercising my Lemon law rights. It's too bad because I really like this truck 98% of the time.
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    hemidave,

    why didn't they hook up the mobile computer to your truck and let you drive it around for awhile??
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    I think the problem with this symptom is there is only a small population of hemi-equiped trucks that are exhibiting the problem. My dealer said they have had two with the complaint and only one seems persistent.

    I agree that the crankshaft position sensor could do this -- my son's '91 went through a period of this and that's what appears to have cured it. However, I disagree that the sensor could be the only cause.

    I heard of one other malady from a co-worker, one that would cause me to think twice about a drive-by-wire system. He's had one experience where he stopped, backed into a driveway, then when he put it in drive and stepped on the accelerator pedal it just stayed at idle. He released his foot pressure from the pedal, stepped on it again and she was fine. Hasn't done it since.

    One nice thing about my 4.7, the old fashioned cable-operated throttle body allows me complete control. I hear its hard to get the tires to spin on a hemi RAM. Not that I'd want to do that, but for some it takes the rush out of owning a Hemi!!!

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • hemidavehemidave Member Posts: 3
    Q: why didn't they hook up the mobile computer to your truck and let you drive it around for awhile??

    A: Good question. I posed your exact question to the service rep. Their response was that these computers were $5K apiece, they only had four and were in constant use by their mechanics. They were not about to let one out of their sight. There's gotta be an opportunity for an enterpreneur to come up with a "take home" computer for this very application--make it multi-make, multi-model, maybe. Am I dreaming here? The more complicated these rascals get, the more the need for this kind of unit.
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    The DRB versions used by most dealers are expensive because they do a lot more than just read-out codes.

    I have seen an ad on television for a device that one can use to change timing, air-fuel ratios, shift points, etc. These are sold by type of vehicle, i.e.: Dodge, Ford, GM, etc. I do not know if they are a diagnostic tool as well. I think the price I remember is $129. Our local Advantage Auto Parts store carries a similar device as well.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • rboulderrboulder Member Posts: 5
    I am considering purchasing a used '98 2500/24vCummins with HD 5 sp. manual. Based on what I've read (here) the 6 sp. manual seems generally very well received. Though it may not be everything that the 6 is, is the 5 ok? or am I best to avoid it and hold out for a 6?

    Truck will primarily be used for hauling building materials, with only occasional, light towing.

    Thanks,
    rboulder
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    I am not absolutely sure on this, but I believe that the 5-speed is the same basic transmission used on GM fullsize pick-ups. So if you have driven a GM version of the same vintage I would suspect you'd have a feel for what the Dodge is like. There probably are some distinct differences, and that might change the feel somewhat.

    Dodge manuals are manufactured by New Process Gear.

    Best regards,
    Dusty
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Yup, sounds close to the same, I know our 94 Chevy K3500 6.5L TD has a new process gear manual transmission, its a 5-speed, but its L-1-2-3-OD, the low gear is nice to have. Its great, about the ONLY thing on the truck that hasn't given us trouble. *knocking frantically on wood*

    Our 99 Ram 3500 V10 is an auto, wish it was a manual trans though, oh well, can't be too choosy when in despirate need for a truck. Of course now that we bought it the Chevy is behaving.
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Seems to hold up very well, it's just more notchy and has a bad gap between a couple gears. I've had some seat time in a Cummins 5-speed and pulling out going up a hill meant you had to stay in 3rd gear at a slow speed because if you hit 4th it would lug. The six-speed feels perfect, but I think you've got to hit the '99 model year before it shows up.
  • rboulderrboulder Member Posts: 5
    Sounds like the 5 speed is a sound investment. Thanks to everyone for the response,

    rboulder
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    hey guys,

    fyi...dodge is going to announce some big changes to the diesel lineup in january. a very good "source" over at allpar.com said it is coming. and when this guy speaks, people need to listen. anyway, supposedly the cummins is getting bumped up to 325hp/600lb-ft. also, a new automatic tranny is gonna be offered. details about tranny are sketchy but it might be an EATON unit...stay tuned...
  • deraederae Member Posts: 3
    I have a 2001 2500 4WD w/24V cummins with 6sp. trans. I am considering getting a 2003/2004 Diesel. I love the one I have but have 218000 miles on it and have considered trading up to the new diesel. I currently have the HO engine. I noticed in CA I can't find the HO in the newer models. My question is should I hang on to my current vehicle with the high miles but no problems or consider the newer ones. I do not want to lose the power I have right now and don't know if the newer ones will have the same power. Does anyone out there have experience with these new engines?
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    You'd be losing about 10hp/45lb-ft with the newer standard output compared to your current HO. Plus you can only get a 5-speed (which is junk compared to the 6-speed IMHO) or a 4-speed auto. The new trucks have some nice features and bigger cabs, but I'm not sure I could give up my six-speed, nevermind the power loss.

    I have an '01 with the std. output and the automatic with about 135k miles on it. Bought an '03 HO six-speed in April and now have about 28k miles on it. They are completely different animals. The '03 is very nice, quiet, smoother power, etc. The '01 doesn't have near the oomph of the newer HO. And the difference between that old 4-speed auto with a clumsy shifting program and the slick-shifting six-speed is tremendous.

    You might want to hang-on for awhile as there's been a rumor of a new Cummins engine coming early next year. I'll put money on it meeting California emissions and it's rumored to be a 330hp and 600lb-ft motor.

    Or you could go shopping for a used '03 Ram in another state. I think you can register it in Cali once it has 7,000 or so miles on it.
  • akjbmwakjbmw Member Posts: 231
    Since you put that many miles on the truck so quickly, doesn't that put it into prime candidacy for an engine rebuild (if the existing one is getting weaker) that I thought was one of the plus arguments for these engines? The cost analysis of rebuild vs trade would certainly be a factor. I would think that the current odometer value would be significant in the trade in value.

    Anyone have some experience in the rebuild route? I would be first concerned with a shop I could trust. How about factory engines? With labor costs so high now, would a pull and replace be cost effective? Has this analysis already prompted the decision to just buy a new truck?
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    I don't know, but engine rebuilds nowadays seem very few and far between -- especially for gas motors. First, engines just seem to go a heck of a lot further. Second, the economics don't really favor rebulding one when there are so many used engines available.

    Diesels are something different. Big trucks do get rebuilt motors, but again the economics favor rebuilding one on a big rig. I can't say I have heard of a LDPU diesel being rebuilt in a long, long time. The last one I remember being somewhat common was GM's gas-to-diesel engine that they used in the '70s and '80s. I know of a number of Dodge Cummins that have better than 300,000 miles. There's one around here with over 400,000. Even valve jobs don't seem common on them.

    A LDPU diesel owner must always weigh the cost of major motor repairs versus keeping the rest of the truck going. I have seen used Dodge diesels go for $5000 that would only be a $1500 truck if it were gas.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Doesn't usually occur until at the very least 800,000 miles. I co-own a small (around 50 tractors) trucking company and I don't think we've had a series 90 detroit get a rebuild before the 1 Million mark. You can even get oil systems that go 250k miles between changes.

    I've seen several Dodge Rams with Cummins go 800k-1 Million miles before an overhaul. Most of these owners are very careful about their trucks and do plenty of preventative maintenance. Cummins rates them for 300kmiles before an overhaul, and that's assuming they're being used as intended (towing, hauling, working, etc.). I can't see why 500k miles isn't fairly standard for how many folks use these trucks (mixed towing with lots of empty miles). Except most folks don't drive that many miles or if they do keep the trucks that long.

    Personally beyond just wanting a new truck, 210k miles shouldn't be anything to worry much about. My uncles '97 Ram has 310k miles on it and it's a 360 gasser. Had the tranny and most ancilliary parts replaced, but the motor is still stock and running good. I've driven it and you can certainly tell it's been taken care of. Still drives straight, solid, very few rattles, etc. I've been in abused trucks with 50k miles in much worse shape/running condition.
  • deraederae Member Posts: 3
    This is my first diesel truck, I have had others that were gas and by the time they got up to 150000 if they got that far at all had problems. I absolutely love this truck. I have only had to replace the fuel sending unit. I change the oil regularly, along with the fuel and air filters and it runs as good or better that when I first got it. I think I will hang on to this one. Thanks for your input. What do you know about the new ones that will be comming out. I heard something about them too. Also,has there been any problems with the new diesels?
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    I don't know much enough about the upcoming motors to comment really. It's all just rumor at this point. I might be slightly concerned about a brand new motor (that's the rumor) but Cummins is not known for releaseing crap like some other companies will.

    The newest 5.9L Cummins is still nearly the same motor as what you have. They've done some power boosting (which isn't hard with a diesel) and also added some additional piston cooling to go along with those power enhancements. They've also gone to a common-rail fuel delivery which takes the sound level down to nearly gas engine quietness, at least at idle. If both my V8 Tahoe and '03 Ram are idling in the drive, from the back I can here the GM "glug-glug" over the Cummins. You know how noisey the '01 is so I don't even need to comment on that. I can actually go through a fast-food drivethru without shutting the '03 down to order food, LOL!

    Out on the highway however, I don't find the '01 real noisey, and the '03 isn't much different. Granted I'm running 4:10's so my revs are a bit higher at highway speeds, so I would imagine one with 3.73's is probably a bit quieter out on the road.

    I've not heard of any problems with the newer diesels. I've had zero issues with mine (truck included). It's on a run out west right now and I imagine when they get back tomorrow it will have over 30k miles on it. And about 90% of those miles is towing at the very least 12,000#. Nothing but oil changes and a tire rotation.
  • windkurtiswindkurtis Member Posts: 2
    I'm a new owner of a Ram 2500 diesel. I have heard from some people that after running the engine at high speeds, you should let the vehicle idle for a while before shutting it off to allow the turbo to cool down. Is there any truth to that?
    Also, I've been considering switching oil to AMSOIL synthetic. Any tips on the interval on oil changes here?
    Thanks for the help
  • highdesertrathighdesertrat Member Posts: 11
    I'm thinking about buying a 2004 Ram 1500 Quad Cab with the 5.7 Hemi. What kind of mileage can I really expect? What gears do you have in the rear end? It will be my commuting vehicle and be used to pull a travel trailer.
  • iowabigguyiowabigguy Member Posts: 552
    13 in the city and up to 17 highway. 03 Quad cab 5.7 5 speed auto, 3.92 2 wheel drive. Rick
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    That's true for any turbo-charged vehicle. Turbos turn at tremendous speeds (100,000 rpms isn't unusual). After the break-in period recommended by Cummins, I would seriously consider switching to a synthetic. I run Rotella synthetic in my Cummins motors. Not only can you extended your oil change periods it also provides better protection for the turbo. It is less likely to cause the turbo vanes to coke up (which can happen if it's shut-down without cooling).

    As for Amsoil, well that's really up to you. IMHO it isn't much if any better than other synthetics unless you want to really extend your drain periods (which likely will void your warranty). I was given a case of it and ran it through my VW Jetta diesel for two oil changes (20k miles, per book) and I had tests performed. For the most part, my wear metals were all compareable to the Delvac 1 I've always run at the same intervals. The detergent/additive levels may be better and with a filter change I could possibly go 20k miles on the same oil, but if I have to change the filter I might as well drop the oil as well. Plus Amsoil has to be shipped to me and it's quite a bit more expensive than the Delvac 1 so I choose not to run it. These Cummins motors will see 300k miles on conventional oil without problems, I really only run the synthetic for the turbo anyway.
  • cz2y72cz2y72 Member Posts: 3
    Hello, Just purchased new 2004 Ram 1500 (Hemi) and sold my 03 1500 (hemi), I notice they changed the exhaust!! (sounds to quiet) does anyone know if I take out the resonator, will it sound like my 2003 rumble??
    thanks
  • blehman1blehman1 Member Posts: 1
    I just bought a new 2004 HO diesel 4x4. I have a slight vibration/noise at 70-75 mph that sounds like it comes from the front right of the truck. Has anyone had any similar experience?
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Rather than Dec 10, DC announced the new Cummins today.

    Still the same 5.9L straight six, 50-state legal emissions for you folks in Calif and New England, and a class leading rating of
    325 hp @ 2900 rpm
    600 lb-ft @ 1600 rpm

    The engine will be backed by a factory 7-year 100,000-mile powertrain warranty, something Ford and GM have not touched. Today's press release did not mention what emissions system is used, but it will either be cooled EGR or an advanced cat-con system. Option proice rises just $135 to $5360.

    Let the Tim Allen imitations begin...

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  • juriasjurias Member Posts: 9
    i have a 04 1500 5.7l hemi can i do the next oil change with synthetic oil and k&n oil filter
  • dako1dako1 Member Posts: 18
    The used Ram (4.7 V8) I bought has 22,000 miles on it. I'm considering using synthetic oil but I doubt that the previous owner used it. Is it advisable to start using synthetic at this point. I thought I heard or read that use of synthetic after the engine has been broken in on nonsynthetic could cause seals to leak etc. Any truth to that??
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    The syn oil won't *cause* the seals to leak, they were already leaky if they are going to leak. Dino oil has a tendency to clog up the leaks and syn oil is thinner and tends to clean the clogs out and find the leaks. So, if there's a leak it was already there.

    I changed over a Blazer at 100k, drove another 14k with no trouble. Did a Jeep at 50k, drove to 78k with no trouble.

    We fully intend on switching our 99 Ram 3500 V10 to synthetic, its got about 12k on it, will switch at 15k (next oil change). I personally use Amsoil, but its all a matter of personal preference, I like it better than Mobil 1.
  • rossn2rossn2 Member Posts: 16
    " The engine will be backed by a factory 7-year 100,000-mile powertrain warranty, something Ford and GM have not touched."

    This is incorrect. Both Ford and GM have always offered a 100k warranty on the engines. They just don't advertise it.. My friend has a 2500 Chevy with Duramax Diesel and was unaware of it until I showed it to him in the owner's manual, as we were going to the dealership because the tranny was failing at 45k. (Numerous other owners having automatic tranny problems with GM Diesels). Luckily, he had an extended warranty.

    They're just too darn expensive and don't offer a manual transmission.

    04 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 HO Cummins, 6 spd. Goin' deer hunting in South Texas this weekend. Maybe will get to use the 4x4 !
  • rossn2rossn2 Member Posts: 16
    04 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 HO Cummins, 6 spd

    Anyone have the following problem? When using the windshield washers with the vent blowing outside air, you get a strong windshield solution smell directly in the face?

    thanks.
  • dankirkdankirk Member Posts: 19
    I just bought a 2004 Ram 1500 Quad-Cab 2wd SLT with the Hemi (of course...), sport package, and 20" chrome-clad wheels. I was surprised to discover that "chrome-clad" meant "plastic-covered". How has your experience been with these wheels? Are they durable? Can you use regular wheel cleaners and acids on them? Can you replace the plastic cover? I wish I would have got the polished aluminum 20" wheels (they are less expensive than chrome-clad), but if these hold up and look good for a long time I may reconsider my opinion of them.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    GM does indeed offer a manual transmission with thier Duramax diesel. Its a 6-speed manual with OD. Personally I prefer a manual transmission in a diesel. We currently own a 94 Chevy K3500 6.5L TD with a 5-speed manual......about the best thing on the truck.
  • rossn2rossn2 Member Posts: 16
    "GM does indeed offer a manual transmission with thier Duramax diesel. Its a 6-speed manual with OD. Personally I prefer a manual transmission in a diesel. We currently own a 94 Chevy K3500 6.5L TD with a 5-speed manual......about the best thing on the truck."

    Okay, my bust. But couldn't find a dealer that had one in stock! They always order them with automatics...:(
  • renegadedrenegaded Member Posts: 9
    I've got an 02 with "styled steel, chrome clad" wheels. I'll take your word for it that they're plastic, I never tried to figure out what that add on layer is. I too, thought chrome as in Cragars, but to answer your question, I use harsh chemicals on my tires, and the overspray has not harmed the chrome finish in two years. They still wash up like new.
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    A friend at work has a 2001 Dakota with chrome-clad wheels and they are nearly perfect. However, if you hit a curb lightly enough to gouge through the plastic coating, you may start to see corrosion creeping under the layer of plastic.

    My father in-law's Bonneville and my wife's Toyota Avalon have aluminium-clad wheels and they are just about junk. Dodge seems to be using a better clad wheel than most.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • windkurtiswindkurtis Member Posts: 2
    Per your recommedation, I plan on switching to Rotella synthetic on my next scheduled oil change. I appreciate the help.

    P.S. - Any recommendations on the best place to buy it in bulk?
  • bmaigebmaige Member Posts: 140
    Is Rotella the oil recommended by Cummins or Dodge for the Cummins HO diesel? What do Dodge dealers use?

    I have started using Rotella in some older (1971 and 1972)Ford diesel farm tractors, and a friend with a Dodge 2500 with Cummins diesel is also apparently using it.

    Our tractors use 8 quarts at a refill so I buy it by the case of six in gallon jugs. Makes a change much simpler--drain, change the oil filter, dump in two gallons, start, check for leaks. Best price I've found thus far was Sam's Club. The one I use also sells it in 55 gallon drums if you prefer.
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    Bmaige, I recently asked my Dodge dealer that question and he said that they use Mopar oils exclusively. I think they have it in 55 gallon drums for the service department, but you can buy cases of it over the counter as well.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • 02ramman02ramman Member Posts: 62
    Mopar oil = Mobil.
  • 0patience0patience Member Posts: 1,712
    What Cummins recommends and what one Dodge dealer recommends are 2 different things.
    Cummins recommends a 15w40 fleet oil like Rotella, Delo400 or any other fleet 15w40 that meets their specs.
    Dodge's maintenance guide recommends
    10w30 -10 degF to 0 degF with block heater
    5w30 synthetic -10 degF to 0degF without block heater
    10W30 0 degF to 30 degF or above
    15w40 10 degF and above

    One thing that Cummins does specify is that the oil be rated for diesels.
  • bluegrass1bluegrass1 Member Posts: 50
    Has anyone bought or know anything about the new tranny for the Dodge Ho engines. I see its a 4 speed instead of 5 spd like Chevy & ford.
    any other thoughts on the '04 cummins wud be appreciated. am looking to buy one of the three this month. I pull abt 10K lbs of 5th wheel.
  • bluegrass1bluegrass1 Member Posts: 50
    A Ford dealer here in SC told me that Ford owned Cummins. I thought that was only a rumor that was not true. does anyone know the scoop on that.
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