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Just installed a Hidden Hitch as well. Went on in about 10 minutes with six bolts. Piece of cake. The receiver is flush with the rear bumper.
I would love matching Redrock door handles, but the black looks fine IMHO.
-mike
After 2 pathfinders and a blazer I really hate to give up that feature. It makes those trips to home depot for lumber really easy. Also lets you load packages without muscling up and down the whole tailgate. my wife doesnt want to give it up.
She says even the CRV does it, why not the pilot?
Toyota seems to have to coolest with the motorized/disappearing window.
On the spot 2 defects:
1/ As somepost, the rear A/C vent on the passenger side camee loose, they just force it back.
2/ The trim piece at the top of the tailgate glass, inside the car, came loose. They drive back into the shop and put back.
After we got home 2 defects;
1/ On the way home, we have a very consistent rattle from the front lower driver side. It seems inside the car, just at the left foot well area.
I got down under the driver seat and look towards the front wheel direction. Cannot find any losse wire, as all wires are exposed. Look outside under the front spoiler, no loose stuff, but find the plastic black molding behind the bumper is very filmise and loose. You can use your hand to shake it to virbate. Has to go back to dealer later.
2/ Cargo net comes with, one of the thread is broken leaving a big hole on the net.
Yes, it draws a lot of attendion on the road (in Toronto), everyone is watching you and talking about your car (maybe my blue color is new to Honda).
When I parking the car for swimming lesson (my kids). Most parents stay in the parking lot and talked about my car, comparing the MDX parked across mind. I act like a Honda saleman to show them all the config.
For Canadian owner, the homelink may cause a little more time to config.,because of the 2 seconds transmission laws.
I have a rolling code garage opener, I messed/easered all my original remote controls, because I hold the training button of my garager opener, instead of(you should)just press every 2 seconds.
The Canadian Pilot (I think the same as USA) do not have alarm system. They are just remote key fobs to lock/unlock doors with panic button. If you break the glass and unlock the door, there is no horns/flashing. The horns and flash light is to confirm you locked the doors, after you press LOCK twice.
The insurance company taken the immoblizer into consideration and lower the price. As I ask them extra alarm system will not help futher in price (Honda dealer install Honda alarm)
I thought it has the body color door handles too, written somewhere in some offical Honda site. But check all the photos from web sites, I think they drop the plan. All door handles are black.
The backup sensor work great, the dealer said, different beep tones for object from the corner senor than the object form the center sensor.
Sorry for long post. PChiu
Does anyone have any experience w.HondaCare? Do you think that it is worth the extra $??
What is the current warranty on the engine and transmission for a Pilot?
I knew that when I put down the offer for the Pilot,try to put Honda alarmas the option to lower the car insurance primum.
As Cnadians should know that the car insurance jack up after 1 June 2002. As an accident free customer for more than 10 years, they honor my policy from my Volvo, ie I'm paying old policy rate.
Jump from Volvo $1400 to Pilot $2200, then called the agent up, they confirm because Pilot is so new (they even cannot purge in the Pilot # into the data base for my quote) it is just to protect them to jack the rate close to MDX. But after a day they call me back and said honor my old policy, then back down to $1950 till Oct 2002 my old policy expire.
Then they will have a better ideal will it be higher (or lower).
The leather is very thin/not high graded.Only after 3 days,the sitting area already shows sign of stretch and winkled.Both me and my wife weights less than 110lbs. PChiu
I live in the Toronto suburbs also and was quoted around $1400-1600 for a midsize SUV like a Pathfinder/ Trailblazer 2 months ago. Your insurance company is taking you for a ride.
> "What is the current warranty on the engine and transmission for a Pilot? "
The Honda warranty on the drivetrain is 3yrs/36K miles.
HondaCare therefore adds on 4yrs./64K miles.
The only HondaCare exclusions seem to be items like tires, exhaust, glass, upholstery, brake pads (stuff that you wouldn't expect to be covered).
Items that are covered (in addition to drivetrain) include shocks, struts, fuel pump, injectors, brake calipers&wheel cylinders, ABS parts, power windows, security system, all electric motors, sensors,a/c compressor, radiator, thermostat, etc... In addition, you get roadside assistance and rental car reimbursement thrown in....
I'm new to the world of Honda (I'm a long-time Toyota diehard), so I'm not sure how good/bad HondaCare program is...Maybe I'm getting swept up by the hype in the HondaCare brochure.?? Any feedback/advice is appreciated...
You cannot always compare your ornage to an apple.
The reality is, I'm now driving a Pilot (not Pathfinder) living in Toronto with car insurance company Co-operator.
If you can help us out as to get your agent to quote you for the Pilot, easy just call him/her up and say you want to buy a Honda Pilot, it is free quote.
Then give me thier office # to confirm, maybe I will move to your area and drive 2 hours to work in my Honda Pilot.
Would you like to help ? PChiu
And if Chrysler "cared" they could give their loyal subjects a warranty comparable to Hyundai.
So...
and if hyundai cared they'd have one comparable to Isuzu (10/120K on all powertrain items)
-mike
Anyways, with good experience with 3 Hondas in our family, the 3yr warranty is essentially useless. With the CR-V, we haven't used it yet. With the Accord, the accelerator pedal would get stuck after starting the engine, and that was fixed, so we used the warranty once. With the Civic, only used the warranty to fix the chrome trimming that kept popping.
So if Pilot owners want peace of mind( because it's a 1st year model), they should shoot for the extended warranty, since problems would most likely come after the standard warranty expires.
Helloooo...I'm no mechanic, but come on...
Our problem: We would put the car into drive, press down on the accelerator only to find that it wouldn't move unless you really press down. It only happens after the car is started. After that, everything would be fine until the next time you have to start the car again.
The mechanic said that there was a problem with the electrical components and the transmission (it's an automatic). My brother, who drives it the majority of the time, doesn't hold down the accelerator like normal folks. He taps it when driving (he's the type of person who, at a red light, is inching slowly into the street). Apparently, his constant tapping of the accelerator had confused the system, so it would take longer than usual for the computer to recognize that the car was in drive (hence the stuck pedal). They just reset the electrical components to run back to normal again. Hope this helps.
will definitely have dh get under the car & check out behind the bumper. thanks for the tip.
also, hubby & i both weigh OVER 110 lbs. (i'm expecting a baby & he's just a big guy), so we're giving it a workout!
-mike
There is a website with low Hondacare warranty prices. www.hondawarranty.com
It has a lot of info about the warranty.
I'm thinking about buying one from them.
Pricing is on the web $920 5/100, $1105 6/100 both with $0 deductible they emailed me an act now discount for $75 more off (sounds too low).
Does anyone have any experience with them?
you mentioned in your post that your husband drives "exploder", does the name has anything to do with the car behaviour? :-)
Tom
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/5best/2002/2002_5best_trucks_honda_pilot.xml
What is "typical" Honda quality? I'm afraid that if one is expecting quality to match an Accord or a mature Civic, I think one might be disappointed, and may need to adjust their expectations. Though some obvious issues like rattles shouldn't be there.
Larger, more complex vehicles tend to have more problems. Plus Honda's recent history with such vehicles has not been stellar. E.g. the Odyssey certainly had its share of issues. The MDX is "above average" according to both Consumer Reports and JD Power, but the typical Honda/Acura buyer expects "well above average." A lot of Odyssey and MDX owners have been surprised, expecting Accord-level quality.
I'll bet the Pilot will be better than most of its competition in terms of quality, but not as good as the Toyota vehicles.
-mike
Actually we were trying to save $2000 to get the cloth, but the dealer who has the cloth was playing game on my trade-in, and we need the Pilot quick (before July). So we go to another dealer which is honest with our trade-in and cost of accessory that I want. Even with the leather model, I paid $1200 more, and the other dealer do not have leather (they had but sold within 1 day of arrival, while I was testing driving).
The cloth version also has the leather center console arm rest. It looks very....hmm, make you own judgement.
g8tor- I feel bad for you about the door rattle, I do not think it is normal, as I'm lucky that my doors close solid.
I'm wondering if you have the same grade of leather in your 99 Volvo than my 97 Volvo. The Volvo has a very thick and soft but long lasting leather, sure they are different grade, and also the Honda's is proforated, that may make it stretched more easily.
dindak- I know about Bel-Air, it is a great help, I'll see.
bodydouble- sorry I didnot go futherafter I found out it will not help with the extra alarm. I knwo it is aroud $300-$400 range. Normal they have all the extra alarm and audio system display in the show room.
Check the web site (USA), I think one shows extra alarm for the LX model (only).
homerg- I like the way and attitude to due with the rattle. Me too, when I was in a bad time I creat rattle witin myself.
My wife already scratched the Pilot when she load the new bicycle into the cargo area. It is very deep, but inside just next to the latch, the hard plastic area.
Keep smiling. PChiu
Then you do not have to pay full price.
And they may have moonroof as option, as there is a blank button on the left side of dash, which is the location of monroof switch in Acoord (or other model).
When CR-V first came out, they do not have moonroof, but after that the higher model come with that.
Just wait for a little bit longer.
My friend tells me that he has ordered a MDX, and should be delivered in mid-June, but it was delated and has a production date of July, ie it may deliver at the end of July, I doubt.
The supply may be delated by the Pilot ? But MDX demand is always high in Toronto.I checked before I go to Honda.
That is why I keep saying I cannot wait or shop around. PChiu
Not sure what all the fuss is about the Pilot. The ride was nice, but the luxury, comfort and power of the Bravada make it a better choice in my opinion. I do like the MDX, but the Pilot would not have been worth the wait.
-mike
this one is an xlt v8 & it's been okay, knock wood. dh actually wanted me to consider driving it (i need the room) & he'd take the volvo, but too many safety/reliability issues for me. plus the ride - when the kids are asleep in the car, i don't want them to be jostled awake.