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Click on the thumbnails. Has anyone found a greater selection of more detailed pictures than the 6 they have on canadiandriver?
rsholland, re: The MDX and Pilot share the exact same engine.
They don't use the same engine. The Pilot is to come with the same engine as the 02 Odyssey, which does not require premium fuel to achieve its 240 hp. MDX should get a new engine in 03 to keep it ahead of 03 Pilot.
As for fuel efficiency, keep in mind the 02 Odyssey EX Leather (the heaviest Odyssey) weighs only 2 pounds more than MDX (4376 vs. 4374 lbs). Clearly the Odyssey is the larger vehicle and has much more interior space. I expect the Pilot to weigh in slightly under the MDX so it is conceivable it will also have better gas mileage. Also look at the fuel economy specs for Odyssey vs MDX. The Odyssey is rated at 18/25 mpg and the MDX is 17/23. The new Odyssey engine may be a bit more fuel efficient although I know many other factors come into play such as aero drag, driving through 4 wheels instead of 2 for example. In any case, to me I expect the Pilot to be slightly more fuel efficient than the MDX.
The MDX has more torque and over a broader range. Remember that engine hp is based on torque times RPM, so given the MDX's extra torque, the Odyssey must achieve its 240 hp at a higher RPM than the MDX does. The specs support this. The 02 Odyssey is rated at 240 hp at 5500 rpm and 242 lb.ft. of torque at 5500 rpm. The MDX is rated at 240 hp at 5300 rpm and 245 lb.ft. of torque over a range of 3000-5000 rpm. The MDX's torque must drop below that of the Odyssey's when it gets to 5500 rpm for them to acheive the same peak hp rating. The MDX would clearly have more low-end pull.
Good look at the tire tread on some of these--unidirectional tires. Anyone recognize the tread pattern? I don't suppose these tires will come on the production version though.
I agree, but then styling didn't stop the CR-V from crushing sales of the more interesting looking RAV4.
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