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1962 Cadillac - any driving experiences out there?
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But, I thought I'd ask you folks if you have any "pet" trouble spots we should look for. This car lacks A/C so I won't have to worry about diagnosing a compressor, etc. The car received some restoration work about 10 years ago.
Gentleman, the floor is yours . . . .
If you get the car, try to get a shop manual for that year. I got one.
It has not helped me fix anything yet but at least I know how the broken stuff is supposed to work, and how it looks. Mostly the shop manual has pointed out to me just how little I really know about cars!
If you get the car, let us know particulars colors etc, and again, good luck.
Still, I think it's a good idea. Just he impartial, as unemotional as possible, and have fun!
Anyway, I've made an offer and anticipate hearing something back in a few days.
I'm on the fence in terms of getting this car. Part of me really wants it and part of me is saying, "Are you nuts? What in the hell are you doing!"
So, if things don't work out I'll be both disappointed and relieved at the same time.
But my wife makes an interesting point. She says you need to save money when you're younger so you can have a decent lifestyle when you retire. And you will retire some day, either because you want to or because you have to.
Moderation in everything. That's why I cringe when I read about someone putting good money into some beater only they can appreciate. I don't think even the mainstream collectibles are good investments compared to careful investing in real estate or the stock market.
Someone like Parm isn't going to blow it. He's too analytical to make a dumb decision. It's the eat/breathe/sleep cars guys I worry about. I don't know why, they're probably having more fun than me.
Problem with wife's philosophy (basically sound) is that she presumes we all have a future. When does one stop postponement of critical things like buying an old car?
It's a balancing act. Have fun, keep an eye on the future. Don't overcommit to either.
But I've been young and poor and it's a lousy combination. Old and poor sounds even worse.
Of course, I wouldn't go broke for a car, no way. But think....GASP!...of when we are old geezers and won't be ALLOWED to drive anymore!
I've never let anybody other than my uncle drive my '57 DeSoto, though.
Anyway, Parm, I'm thinking you should buy the Cadillac, instead of the Chrysler convertible. I assume you've seen all the 61-62 Cads on the Collector Car trader website. I really like the 61-62 Cads, and think you'd be happier in the long run with one of them then the 68 Chrysler. Not that I don't like Mopars-I do, and I've owned several and have two now. Too bad you couldn't go for a coupe instead of a convertible in a Cad-much, much cheaper!
Wouldn't things like A/C be better, brakes, steering, suspension, etc. and just technological/manufacturing advances in general better?
So, I'm encouraging all to weigh in. Wouldn't a car built in 1968 generally be superior to one built in 1962? If you want to specifically compare a '68 Chrysler 300 to a '62 Eldorado, that'd be even better, but generalities would be appreciated as well.
The '68 is just a restyled '65 shell, the '62 a restyled '61. There just wasn't that much engineering progress between '61 and '65. The Torqueflite and 440 are '50s technology just like the second-gen Hydro and Cad 390. The 300 is sprung more firmly so you'd have faster lap times ;-).
What additional safety features would a '68 have? Dished steering wheel, side marker lamps? When did they start using side impact beams in the doors?
As far as AC, GM had the best for years.
Also, I believe the horswpower war was going strong by 68, so I would think the engine would be stronger as well. I believe 68 was the first year of the PCV system, a rudimentary oil vapor.
Don't know about corrosion resistance.
Interesting reading re. wives/old cars. I didn't think that old cars and wives mixed well at all. My wife hates my cars! And she usually has a nasty comment or two whenever I want to show them to visitors. I guess I can understand it from her perspective - basically, we are in competition to see who can spend what little disposable monthly income on what first!!! her with her dumb useless house furnishings, or me on my beautiful old cars. She has never even ridden in them.
One of my kids visited last week from Virginia and got his first look at the Caddy - he really liked it.
I told him that he will get the Caddy and his brother will get the Jag, when I go to the old junkyard in the sky. He replied that he really would prefer the Jag. So it looks like the Caddy will someday go to Ohio.
Good luck and keep us posted - you realize that after all this, you will have to send pictures!
The '68 would also have more crash padding than a '62 Caddy, in addition to the collapsible steering column. Then there's the fact that the 300 was unitized, compared to the Caddy's body-on-frame construction. While they've engineered them to crumple up better nowadays, I'm sure the unitized Chrysler would protect its occupants better than a body-on-frame Caddy. By '68, the government was also regulating things such as sharp objects and protrusions on the interior, so in the event you did impale yourself on the dashboard, your body might not get messed up as badly on the 300!
Concerning alternators versus generators...any ideas on which one lasts longer? I've only had one car with a generator...my '57 DeSoto. For all I know, it could be the original generator, too! But it's been my experience that alternators will often fail after 7 or 8 years. Of course, that's only a sample of 1 for generators, and a sample of maybe 3 or 4 with alternators, so it's not much to draw a truly valid conclusion!
Other than the potential for better low speed charging, is there a good reason why one should swap out a generator for an alternator? And, if so, is there anything else electrical that needs to be changed to accommodate an alternator?
If I can get this '62 Eldorado, I'd be using it as a weekend driver - around town driving for the most part and not highway driving. Would this make much difference or impact whether an alternator makes more sense in terms of keeping the battery charged?
Neither of these advantages would probably matter much on a big old car with excessive gobs of torque and plenty of room under the hood, but I'd imagine that nowadays, the way things get packed under the hood, it's a good thing the alternator was invented!
So I'm kinda surprised that 62 Caddy has a generator?
Parm, I hope the outcome is in your favor. Life can be short and I don't think you'll regret the purchase unless it won't fit in your garage!
Worst case, you decide it was a bad idea and you resell it after awhile. I'm sure you would lose a HELL of a lot less than some of *us* lost last year in the stock market!
By the way, I too lost quite a bit in the stock market over the last two years. :-(
Fortunately, it was in my 401K which I won't be needing for another 30 years or so. So, hopefully some of losses will be recouped in that time.
Lots of fun, especially when it gets picked up by someone elasE
Currently, the bidding is up to $18,100 and it appears the seller's reserve is around $25K.
This car certainly looks pretty, but I know better than anyone that pictures don't tell the whole story. Call me picky, but the ad says this car has a tilt and telescoping steering column which is impossible. Tilt didn't come along in Cadillacs until 1963 and telescoping wasn't available until 1965. Furthermore, the pictures show the correct steering column for a 1962 Cadillac. Trying to retro-fit a steering column from a later car into a 1962 would: A) be very difficult (I know, I've checked) and, would be easily recognizable from the photos provided.
Putting tilt/telescoping wheel in the ad could be an honest mistake. But, for this kind of money, you'd think the seller would've paid a bit more attention. Kind of makes me wonder what other issues this car may have.
To command the seller's price, I'm thinking this has to be one of the best '62 Cadillac convertibles on the planet price. If the reserve happens to be met, I suspect the seller and buyer won't be able to come together. I'd probably feel less cynical if the seller hadn't invoked the "private auction" rule which means you can't see the names of who's actually bidding.
In any event, I'll bet this car will eventually find its way into Hemmings and Collector Car Trader Onlne.
So how about Shifty, what's you're take on the values seen in bidding war? - if in fact a bidding war is actually going on. ;-)
I also was thinking along the same lines as to the cruise control, but I'm not sure the control for the CC would be in view of these photos. You're right, in 1962 the CC was controlled by a thumb dial arrangement. I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure this dial was located at the far left side of the dash - up by where the windshield wraps around and thus may be out of view in the photos. I figured I'd give the seller the benefit of the doubt on this.
A few months ago, this same seller tried to sell on eBay a '62 Eldorado convertible identical in color as this Series 62. Perhaps he's running these cars to his neighborhood body shop for a quick coat of paint and red is his favorite color.
Anyway, this 'Eldorado later showed up in Hemmings and was still there as of a couple of days ago. You'll notice the heading of this eBay ad actually describes this Series 62 as an Eldorado. But, he corrects this in the body text of the ad. Perhaps he just copied over his old ad into this new one.
My job (plus it's my nature) requires me to be accurate, even with little details - with the exception of my typos in this forum :-). As a result, I tend to expect others not to miss what I consider to be a rather glaring mistake. But, I'm rather "into" 1962 Cadillacs and what I consider to be a glaring mistake might not even get noticed by most. Still, if I were selling a car on eBay, I'd want the description absolutely accurate so as not to give the winning bidder grounds for backing out of the deal.
For whatever reason, I'm just rather suspicious of this car and seller.