1997- present F150 Ford Pickups (Lariat, Eddy Bauer, Triton etc) That means over 600,000 people bought them last year out of more than a possible billion truck shoppers/buyers in the world.
I've always been a Ford truck man but I gotta say the F150 and that 4 door explorer with the 4' box are ugly. I spent the extra money and bought a F250 because they are the coolest truck on the planet.
The S-10 is pretty ugly, especially with those funky pointed rear bumpers. But it's a tie between the S-10 or the Shakerado, which performs more like a paintshaker than a truck.
My truck, Tundra, is objectively the absolute best looking pickup ever made, all others are "Ugly and Horrendous looking pick-up trucks" And that is my absolute objective opinion, based on a subjective study I did.
with the teeny, tiny poor excuse for a pickup truck bed in the back is one of the oddest looking vehicles I've seen lately, although I'm not sure it even qualifies as a pickup truck. It comes in right behind the Avalanche which gets my vote for the most god awful, ugliest vehicle ever made.
for the Nissan Frontier. All that plastic on the body is sooo ugly. It might be a viable competitor to the Tacoma if it looked better. Even a Tonka truck doesn't look that bad!!
The new Cadillac Pimpmobile AKA the tarted up chevy crapalanche better known as the Escalade EXT. What kind of fool would want to buy one of these things?
One thing that gets me are the trucks/SUVs in general, that have small-[non-permissible content removed] tires. They look disproportional: long body, sitting low to the ground. Thats why I like a 4x4 Taco: sitting highup, and proportionally long. Fronter isnt too bad in that sense, but Ranger really sucks. So does Silverado.
The Ford "bubble" look on the F150s looks like a car; not like a truck. Has been that way for some time and has now been extended to the Jaguar. Gone are the lines and edges and in come the curves and swoops. Not very truck like; I call 'em "blobmobiles". They even take off the chrome. What good is a pick up with no chrome?
The "stubbies" include the Avalanche and the Explorer van-SUV-toytruck. The beds will keep getting shorter till they become trunks and the trucks morph back into vans and SUVs.
I'm sure the chevy guys will probably jump on me for this, but I personally think trucks with dualies look incredibly ugly. I know they have a functional purpose, but still...
It doesn't matter what topic we are in, the Chev guys bash the Toyota guys, and the Toyota guys bash the Chevy guys... Why can't everyone grow up? I drive a Tundra, but in my personal opinion I don't think any of the real 1/2 tons pickups are ugly. The Sporttrac, Avalanch, and Aztec on the other hand are all silly looking contraptions, and I'll be dammed if I call them trucks...
As for the the others. I love the looks of Tundra, I like the looks of the new Ram, the Ford is a good looking truck and I love the looks Chevy (especially the Z71s) as well...
It just seems that GM could find some middle ground. Either they come out with something new and hideously ugly (Azec, Avalanche, Escalade) or they use the same dated styling that was last popular 30 years ago.
I'll agree that the Silverado looks much better than many of GMs new trucks, but that isn't saying much.
trucks are supposed to be ugly... avalanche and similar vehicles are not ugly so they dont look right to us truck people.. those vehicles are useless, not ugly... trucks with dents, rust, and a cab full of coffee cups and old shotgun shells have character..
how do you compare a truck to a butt? the previous poster has a sound argument, as trucks were not designed to be "pretty". beauty is in the eye of the beholder right? therefore, a pickup truck should be looked at as what it was designed for...........only problem here is with the "Tundra".......what was it designed for?
Heh...remember the car Homer Simpson designed for his brother? Beauty is not necessarily in the eye of the beholder. Aztek was designed very nicely, but looked ugly, even though it was functional.
I think the Avalanche looks pretty good, especially when you color match the plastic to the rest of the truck. I've seen this done by a few custom companies. Also I just want to let everyone know, if you don't like the looks of the Avalanche, you might wanna try to get used to it. Chevrolet is selling around 8000 a month, that's pretty good, it's outselling alot of SUV's and even the Toyota Tundra.
Avalanches outselling the 2/5 ton Tundras? Who woulda thunk it? On the other hand, you get alot more performance/use for the $$ with an Avalanche than with the Tundra.
As for looks-I often find myself thinking the Avalanche is UGLY, but then a Tundra drives by and redefines the word!
1-Avalanche; "More Plastic Please" 2-Cadillac "TWIN", Escalade = $50,000 joke 3-Ford 150, although it's not "horrendous" The Ford 250 is so much better looking!! 4-Nissan Frontier; "I Like Plastic Too"
Of course, I have to say that the new RAM 1500 is great since I just bought one!! Impartial?? Nah!!
Cadillac "TWIN", Escalade=$50,000 joke is incorrect. It's called an EXT. If you're gonna call something a joke....get it right. BTW, is your transmission still working?
Uh, no - Ava-lose-my-lunches do not outsell Tundras (or any other truck for that matter). Could it be that real americans want their trucks built in the US (Tundra) and not Mexico(avs). Do the Avs come with free salsa?
When is Chev going to upgrade the brakes on that 1/4 ton Shakerado of yours? It seems that your truck not only has 30yr old styling - it has 30 year old brakes too.
It's hard to believe that anyone could make the Avalanche uglier than it is, but Cadillac managed to do it. Other than rap stars looking for a bling-bling ride, who else is buying these things?
The brakes on my truck are fine-15,000 miles and no problems with those "30 yr old" brakes at all. Alot of 2/5 ton Tundra owners wish they could say the same in between trips to the Toy dealership for service for on warped rotors and the dreaded Tundra "Brake Shake"
When's Toyota gonna admit those Tundra brakes are cheap crap and figure out how to fix 'em ??
that the Nissan Frontier -- old or new style -- is ugly. I can spot them a mile away; usually an automotive compliment but not in this case.
Ditto the Avalanche. Every time I see one I think, "I hope you really needed that thing, because there is no other excuse for driving it."
I also agree that F250 is the best looking truck. I better buy one this year before Ford screws it up with that "Mighty Tonka" concept they showed off last month!
The brakes on my Tundra work great. No problems. As a matter of fact - my Tundra has been flawless for the two years I have owned it.
The brakes on those Chev .25 ton pickups are downright dangerous. Here is what the latest Motor Trend had to say about Shakerado brakes unloaded : "Braking wasn't as short as we would like taking 140ft from 60. Brakes feel sketchy."
"With 1000lb of rock salt loaded in the bed, the 0-60 time increased by 1.3 sec and the quarter mile time was slower with a loss of 2-4 mph. Braking got downright scary ... needing and additional 22ft to bring it all to a stop. "Meanwhile entire countries go whizzing by your window"
Add marginal crashworthiness to weak brakes and you have a dangerous truck. And this is just loaded with 1000lb.
This is what Motor Trend said about the Tundra's brakes: "emergency braking was impressive, a 125ft halt from 60mph. Stellar, straight and sure-footed. A loaded cargobox required only five additional feet to stop. Walton wondered "How'd they do that?"
The Chev (1500 HD) had a 6.0 L engine and the Tundra still massacred it 0-60 and quarter mile both loaded and unloaded. Those Chevs are WIMPY!
I'm wondering - when will Chev come out with a "full size" truck? I guess people who want a "full size" truck will just have to buy Tundras until the Big3 get their act together.
People rate trucks in the quarter mile, unless you are talking Ford Lightning. Like anyone buys diesel or hauling trucks because of their ET.
I also wonder how 15 feet of braking difference can take a truck from "Not as short as we'd like it to be" to "Impressive" and "stellar".
People who actually use trailers (and load them) will still continue to buy from the Big Three. That's why the Toyota folks are so critical on everything else. Sure you can pick on entry level full size, F-150's, and 1500HD's, but what about GVWR? What if you need over 10,000 lbs?
why do you turn every topic into a Chevy/tundra comparison? this topic is about which truck is just plain "ugly", in which you guys win hands down. sheeesh, we give ya an inch and...........
Geez, I state a few facts about Chevs and you get all whiny and get your feelings hurt. It seems to me that Hillbillyhound started the Tundra vs. Chev thread:
About the quarter mile: it could be that 1/4 mile shows how a vehicle performs overall. The marketing departments for auto companies can sweeten the trucks all they want, but at the end, who's got a better truck? One who can haul good amount of weight and do that reliably: start and stop without any problems. Just a guess, though.
Read the title of the thread if you can manage. In that link you posted I just voiced my opinion and stated that I think the Tundra is an ugly truck. Heck-I even said I think the Avalanche is ugly! Then you show up and start blubbering about brakes.
Why is it everytime anybody mentions one negative thing about Toyota's half-hearted attempt at building a fullsize pickup you materialize and start spewing your usual drivel? It's almost spooky.
And if you wanna talk brakes, surf over to Tundrasolutions.com and check the first page of threads. More posts on Tundra brakeshake victims. Also almost spooky!
My Silverado may take a few feet longer to stop but at least it's brakes don't rattle grandpa's dentures onto the dashboard when I hit the pedal!
While looking to buy a new truck one place I really looked hard was at the race track. No not on the race track, but in the pits. I looked at all the trucks hooked up to the trailers. I then went to the state fairgrounds and drove around the horse barns during a national horse show, and again looked at what was pulling those horse trailers. I also looked at plumbers, electricians, the gas company, the phone company etc. etc. to see what the working professionals use. Guess what. NO imports, just American iron.
You sure are getting defensive about that .25 ton of yours.
The Tundra stopped in 130ft from 60mph when loaded with 1000lb. The Shakerado took 162ft!!! Do the math - that is 32ft. And this is with Chev's big, bad 3/4 ton.
That is not only scary, but dangerous.
1000lb is not much. You could easily reach that with passengers only. What is going to happen when you try to use that .25 ton of yours like a truck? Realistically - you should compare it with minivans, not full size pickups.
I think you guys are in the wrong topic. I think you wanna be in the Tundra vs. Silverado topic. This is the ugliest and most horrendous.
Which in my opinion is a tie, the 74' through 86' Ford F150's and the 73' through 92' Ram's. Yep I think those are the ugliest trucks around. Or if you think about it, what makes a pretty truck?
Maybe all the Tundra guys think their trucks are "pretty", or "cute". I'd agree the Tundra is cute! It's like the VW Beetle of trucks.
I think that you are in the wrong topic. We are talking Ugly trucks, not pretty trucks.
What is it that makes a truck a truck? I would consider brakes to be the one of the most important criteria. Chev owners seem more concerned about the size of their back seat. Can we just settle on calling the Chev the ugliest minivan?
At least pretty has something to do with Ugly. It's the opposite last time I checked, what do brakes have to do with ugly! LOL!
Oh ya and what are you guys talking about with all the braking and performance junk! From what I can tell the Silverado takes 6 feet longer to stop than the Tundra, and it's faster even though the Toyota was equipped with a manual. Not only that, but the Chevy came in 2nd overall and the Tundra in 3rd. So lets see if we can get moving on to the prettiest or cutest trucks!
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Avalanch and Tundra's are ugly also.
And that is my absolute objective opinion, based on a subjective study I did.
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just look at the fender flares
The "stubbies" include the Avalanche and the Explorer van-SUV-toytruck. The beds will keep getting shorter till they become trunks and the trucks morph back into vans and SUVs.
As for the the others. I love the looks of Tundra, I like the looks of the new Ram, the Ford is a good looking truck and I love the looks Chevy (especially the Z71s) as well...
I'll agree that the Silverado looks much better than many of GMs new trucks, but that isn't saying much.
trucks with dents, rust, and a cab full of coffee cups and old shotgun shells have character..
the previous poster has a sound argument, as trucks were not designed to be "pretty".
beauty is in the eye of the beholder right?
therefore, a pickup truck should be looked at as what it was designed for...........only problem here is with the "Tundra".......what was it designed for?
Not bad for a $32k or up pickup/SUV.
As for looks-I often find myself thinking the Avalanche is UGLY, but then a Tundra drives by and redefines the word!
2-Cadillac "TWIN", Escalade = $50,000 joke
3-Ford 150, although it's not "horrendous" The Ford 250 is so much better looking!!
4-Nissan Frontier; "I Like Plastic Too"
Of course, I have to say that the new RAM 1500 is great since I just bought one!! Impartial?? Nah!!
When is Chev going to upgrade the brakes on that 1/4 ton Shakerado of yours? It seems that your truck not only has 30yr old styling - it has 30 year old brakes too.
When's Toyota gonna admit those Tundra brakes are cheap crap and figure out how to fix 'em ??
Ditto the Avalanche. Every time I see one I think, "I hope you really needed that thing, because there is no other excuse for driving it."
I also agree that F250 is the best looking truck. I better buy one this year before Ford screws it up with that "Mighty Tonka" concept they showed off last month!
The brakes on those Chev .25 ton pickups are downright dangerous. Here is what the latest Motor Trend had to say about Shakerado brakes unloaded : "Braking wasn't as short as we would like taking 140ft from 60. Brakes feel sketchy."
"With 1000lb of rock salt loaded in the bed, the 0-60 time increased by 1.3 sec and the quarter mile time was slower with a loss of 2-4 mph. Braking got downright scary ... needing and additional 22ft to bring it all to a stop. "Meanwhile entire countries go whizzing by your window"
Add marginal crashworthiness to weak brakes and you have a dangerous truck. And this is just loaded with 1000lb.
This is what Motor Trend said about the Tundra's brakes: "emergency braking was impressive, a 125ft halt from 60mph. Stellar, straight and sure-footed. A loaded cargobox required only five additional feet to stop. Walton wondered "How'd they do that?"
The Chev (1500 HD) had a 6.0 L engine and the Tundra still massacred it 0-60 and quarter mile both loaded and unloaded. Those Chevs are WIMPY!
I'm wondering - when will Chev come out with a "full size" truck? I guess people who want a "full size" truck will just have to buy Tundras until the Big3 get their act together.
I also wonder how 15 feet of braking difference can take a truck from "Not as short as we'd like it to be" to "Impressive" and "stellar".
People who actually use trailers (and load them) will still continue to buy from the Big Three. That's why the Toyota folks are so critical on everything else. Sure you can pick on entry level full size, F-150's, and 1500HD's, but what about GVWR? What if you need over 10,000 lbs?
this topic is about which truck is just plain "ugly", in which you guys win hands down.
sheeesh, we give ya an inch and...........
hillhound Feb 5, 2002 9:26pm
The marketing departments for auto companies can sweeten the trucks all they want, but at the end, who's got a better truck? One who can haul good amount of weight and do that reliably: start and stop without any problems.
Just a guess, though.
Why is it everytime anybody mentions one negative thing about Toyota's half-hearted attempt at building a fullsize pickup you materialize and start spewing your usual drivel? It's almost spooky.
And if you wanna talk brakes, surf over to Tundrasolutions.com and check the first page of threads. More posts on Tundra brakeshake victims. Also almost spooky!
My Silverado may take a few feet longer to stop but at least it's brakes don't rattle grandpa's dentures onto the dashboard when I hit the pedal!
The Tundra stopped in 130ft from 60mph when loaded with 1000lb. The Shakerado took 162ft!!! Do the math - that is 32ft. And this is with Chev's big, bad 3/4 ton.
That is not only scary, but dangerous.
1000lb is not much. You could easily reach that with passengers only. What is going to happen when you try to use that .25 ton of yours like a truck? Realistically - you should compare it with minivans, not full size pickups.
Which in my opinion is a tie, the 74' through 86' Ford F150's and the 73' through 92' Ram's. Yep I think those are the ugliest trucks around. Or if you think about it, what makes a pretty truck?
Maybe all the Tundra guys think their trucks are "pretty", or "cute". I'd agree the Tundra is cute! It's like the VW Beetle of trucks.
stop it you guys, i can't take it anymore..........hehe
What is it that makes a truck a truck? I would consider brakes to be the one of the most important criteria. Chev owners seem more concerned about the size of their back seat. Can we just settle on calling the Chev the ugliest minivan?
Oh ya and what are you guys talking about with all the braking and performance junk! From what I can tell the Silverado takes 6 feet longer to stop than the Tundra, and it's faster even though the Toyota was equipped with a manual. Not only that, but the Chevy came in 2nd overall and the Tundra in 3rd. So lets see if we can get moving on to the prettiest or cutest trucks!
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