Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    Why are you the only one who thinks I was inconsiderate for not crashing my car into the side of a truck thereby blocking a busy intersection during rush hour?

    First, I am the only one who voiced an opinion. That does not mean I am the only one who thinks so.

    Second, I am sure everyone driving at 2mph at the first hint of snow thinks there will be carnage if they speed up to 5 mph. That is not necessarily so.

    Third, you are the only one who thinks car navigation systems are worthless. That did not stop you from expressing your opinion.

    Fourth, you are not the only one with an opinion.There are others who have an opinion as well and their opinions may not always coincide with yours.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Nice way to beat a dead horse.

    Let me say this there was no way that me you or anyone else would have been able to pass that truck without getting creamed by it.

    I have something else to say but the host may not like it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    ... and the road was clear except for one car way down the road. Evidently he didn't like that because he started flashing his brights at me. The funny thing is that he was a long way away from the intersection at the time and he never got closer than 100 yards behind me. :confuse:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    Today's winners....a trashed 2nd generation Exploder Sport with no brake lights. Well, the center high mount worked, as it would light up when the driver slowed. But the corner/normal lights - nothing. His driving wasn't bad per se...a bit of a LLC, but the lack of lights has to be worth something.

    And then as I am looking out onto the street in front of my building, the redneck of the place is pulling out of the garage. He drives a Dakota with a loud exhaust. He had some junk in the back...as usual he hit the gas too hard when he was leaving, and the junk in the back promptly hit the road. Some woman passing by yelled at him, and he went and picked it up. This hick (every building seems to have one, no matter the locale) usually hits the gas so hard when he pulls out that he gets it a little sideways. I have long hoped he'd lose control and hit a light pole. Maybe tomorrow.
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    I have something else to say but the host may not like it.

    That is exactly the response from someone who runs out of arguments. Why do you feel the need to convince me when you know you are right?

    My email is in the profile, Feel free to voice your "arguments" that you think hosts would frown upon!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Sorry I won't step into that trap.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    That is an invitation,not a trap. After all,it was you who wanted to voice an opinion that you thought Edmunds would not allow.Or,did I misread?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    See post # 8892

    If its not a trap why are you goading me?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    i drive hwy traffic each day. there's a protocol when traffic is heavy and everyone's at speed and you've got to merge with a finite amount of lane used both for merging and exiting and/or get off the highway.

    someone has to slow down a tad or speed up a tad if necessary to open a spot and keep everyone moving.

    truck drivers seem to have the courtesy down, also people in utility vans carrying supplies (and people) and the like to a job site.

    worse offenders are the people that feel it's their duty when they see someone trying to merge from the right with their left blinker on, to just speed up and block; similarly if they are in the right lane and see someone on their left trying to exit, speed up and/or keep speed with the vehicle trying to exit.

    yesterday i'm trying to merge left, i see a 3 car opening and signal, then start to move left, when the camry in the left lane literally guns it to cut me off then maintains speed with me to block me.

    i finally get left and throw up both hands so the driver can tell i'm wondering what the heck is wrong with them.

    then they just back way down in speed.

    probably weren't even aware of what they were doing.

    sometimes i think when people are distracted, then see a blinker, all of a sudden they are re-awoken and begin to drive again, but they just lay on the gas because they have generally poor fine-control ability.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    but they just lay on the gas because they have generally poor fine-control ability.

    No its the "How dare you get in front of me" mentality. :(

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    right, like i may arive 1 car length traveled in stop and go sooner then them.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    Today was fun. I'm pulling up to a light on a 4 lane 35mph road, which is fairly deserted. There's only one other car next to me, a maybe 50 year old woman in a ca. 1974 Caprice coupe. She's in the right lane, I am in the left. By looking at her I should have known something was off....she was sitting so close to the wheel she was almost leaning over it, and she had a real death grip on the thing. She also had a weird 80s permed hairdo, she reminded me of Mama from "Mamas Family". The car was in pretty nice condition, enough to get my attention.

    When the light turns green, she shoots off, something I attributed to classic oversensitive GM throttle positions. But, then as she nears the limit she slows...and soon I am coming up on her even though I am going the limit on the nose. As I become even with her rear bumper, she starts to wander in her lane, like a drunk. At this point I slow down...and then she weaves over into my lane, and slows way down. Then, randomly, just as I think of passing on the right, she stumbles back into the right lane. I then decide to just punch it for a second, and shoot past...I don't want to be hit by the shrapnel that is sure to come. I do suspect she was drunk rather than just belligerent...she was gripping that wheel to save her life, and she wasn't looking to either side. As we pull up to the next unjustifiably out of sequence light, she stops....and when it turns green she lurches forward, hits her signal, and turns right. I was so amazed at her skill that I didn't even think of calling her in until I got home. All I can say is 'wow'. I hope she ditches the thing rather than hits another car.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Me and the wife went to the Loop today. After a couple of hours there we took LSD (Lake Shore Drive) north and picked up Sheridan drive going through the Northern Suburbs of Chicago.

    Anyone familiar with this road knows it follows the shore line and goes past some of the most expensive real estate in the Midwest. Its a two lane road winding through the suburbs with a 30 MPH SL.

    Well I am driving down this little winding suburban road doing SL + maybe 5 and this Lexus tries to pass me twice when there was oncoming traffic. Well third time she guns it passes me then hits her brakes and goes on barely doing faster than me. :confuse:

    Now here is the kicker. The road goes north for several more miles and as it passes the Naval Training center it becomes two lanes. As I approach a stop light she is sitting there waiting for a green. It turns green just before I get there so I just run right past her and when the road turns back into the a single lane road with me in front of her. I guess there is some justice out there. :shades:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Try not to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed guy. ;)
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    Try not to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed guy

    Usually the anarmed guy is the one who wishes to make comments that Edmunds would not allow.

    And,incidentally, you may wish to keep your day job,if you feel compelled to post such hackneyed cliches.
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    You are the one who wished to:

    I have something else to say but the host may not like it.

    Hence the invitation.

    Anyway,I was just posting my point of view, nothing derogatory about you personally. Is it really hard to disagree with me and move on? Why do you feel the urge to make nasty comments to me that Edmunds would not allow?

    Don't read them if you don't like them.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,847
    you are being very obtuse. i don't think i'm the only confused by your posts. please repeat your point of view.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • black_tulipblack_tulip Member Posts: 435
    If you find them obtuse, please ignore them.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    See post number 8894

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    Saw this on CNN.com. Front page under the "Watch video" section...look for gas station crash.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Must be summer heat and driver impatience. Have encountered more than usual number of opposing traffic early left turners over last few days, some on 2-lane 55 mph highways. These idiots are moving their vehicle and turning their front wheels toward my lane as I approach the intersection. They can't wait just a fraction of second until I pass them until they start moving their vehicle and then turning the front wheels.

    If am going 55 on a 55 mph rural, I dare not slow down at an intersection with an opposing waiting left turner for fear that they are an Early Left Turner and they will drive into the left side of my car.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,730
    Hahhaa.... it should not be a surprise to any of us how important that can be to some drivers. :sick:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,730
    Your mentioning of that reminds me of something I saw yesterday afternoon.

    I was driving on a two-lane road that provides access to Wal-Mart on the right (from the direction I was going) and Lowe's Home Improvement on the right. The Lowe's access drive is just slightly offset from the Wal-Mart drive and a bit closer to me. There is no SL posted here. But, being a business district, one could reasonably assume a 20 mph limit.... 30 tops. There is a white Subaru at the Wal-Mart exit wanting to turn left, me going down the road about to turn left into Lowe's (and signalling), and an oncoming white minivan having just turned right onto this street about 50 yards down where it ends.

    After I turn into Lowe's, the Subaru streaked across the road and into Lowe's as well, with the white minivan gunning the gas as the Subaru was entering the roadway, then laying on the horn as it passed the Lowe's entrance (with the Subaru already in the parking lot).

    I had to scratch my head to wonder why the heck that minivan even bothered to accelerate to create a conflict in the first place, but my wonderment as to why the Subaru driver felt there was enough room to pull in front was quickly laid to rest when I saw the plates: New York. With only three of us on the stretch, it must have felt deserted! :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    Local number-generators report a 60% increase in motorcycle ridership, and an 89% increase in motorcycle fatalities since the beginning of the decade, with a lot of it being attributed to older riders on their supposedly trendy hogs. Look out, out there.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,730
    While nothing wrong with the ridership increase, it is alarming to see such a steep incrase in fatalities. Still though, of the riders I have seen up here this summer, nearly all of the conflicts with "4-wheelers" have been a result of carelessness or agressiveness on the part of the biker. Gotta wonder why they take so much for granted when so exposed to potential injury. :confuse:

    Ironic, though, that while I see the majority of conflicts blamable on the bikers, all of the collisions about which I hear are attributed to the other vehicle(s) involved. Odd, that.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    I don't understand it. I too wouldn't mind having a cycle...but with the way people drive around here, I'll pass.

    I recall two fatal crashes last week...one was struck by a car, the other lost control when trying to stop in traffic. The other day there was another, a random loss of control issue as well, I believe. I'm sorry, that's not how I want to go.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,730
    Absolutely. It does not take much to end your life on a motorcycle, so might as well hedge your bets a little and keep sheet metal on all sides. I would really like to get a motorcycle, but my wife is dead-set against the idea and I am trying to build a house, so no funds set aside for it just yet. Maybe it would be more appropriate to pursue it again after my children are grown. :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    Some of them are very tempting....but for the money, I'd rather buy another old car or do some massive fintail renovations.

    Today's winner was an old hag in a Pacifica who would brake for every curve in the road. Not turn in the road, but curve. Oh, and those things are so ugly from the back, fat squat thing.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    maybe the "old hag" is actually good driver and staying within the capability (driving dynamics) of the vehicle. :surprise:

    when i look at this model, i wonder how it could exhibit good drivability characteristics. maybe it's just me.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,704
    But it has a German-designed rear suspension or something like that. Foreign-designed; must be good. I learned that from a Dr. Z commercial.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    While nothing wrong with the ridership increase, it is alarming to see such a steep incrase in fatalities.

    Yes it is but since I have noticed more young guys driving rice rockets (racing is a better word) in a reckless manner all the time wearing nothing but shorts and sandals I am not surprised.

    Now is it my imagination or do those who dress properly (long sturdy pants, boots, helmet and the like) also tend to ride safer?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    maybe the "old hag" is actually good driver and staying within the capability (driving dynamics) of the vehicle.

    Not if she is having to break at every curve. A good driver staying within the driving dynamics of the vehicle would rarely have to hit the breaks on a curve. That is unless they were racing and I don't think that was the case.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,704
    I see a lot of middle-aged guys driving silly around here, not just young ones with the plastic body race rockets. I think of the one a couple of months ago, 40s?50s?, from PA who didn't pay any attention tot he 40 mph signs on a recently-completed, swooping ramp from I75 to I70. It's raise about 50-80 feet above the roads and ground below. He wasn't able to curve to match the curve of the road, hit the 36 inch concrete side and went over. He was old enough to know better.

    Pacifica: my buddy has one and it's like driving a Caravan that's been chopped. It drives as well as most cars on the road. If the lady was having to hit the brakes, that probably was because she was afraid of turning the wheels to go around a slight curve, as are some women.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    For some odd reason I took my wifes car to run a errand. This is something i rarely do as we hardly ever drive each others car. Well the very first time I hit the breaks my skin starts to shiver as I heard that unmistakable noise of metal grinding metal.

    Honey, I asked, how long have the breaks been making that noise?

    Her reply "Oh about a couple of weeks now"

    :sick:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • capitanocapitano Member Posts: 509
    LOL. Not mine. She's hyper alert to any potential problem with her car.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Every so often, we see an idiot on the freeway in front of our store doing a wheel stand on the freeway!
  • ems1ems1 Member Posts: 48
    I just finished a road trip from Philadelphia, PA to Tampa, Fl. and back, mostly on I 95. An annoying behavior by aggressive drivers has me baffled as to how to deal with it.
    This behavior is passing on the right when 3-5 vehicles are in the left lane passing a slow moving vehicle on the right. These drivers jump into the right lane, speed up to the back of the slow moving vehicle then push in front of the next vehicle about to overtake the slow moving vehicle. I've seen this behavior nearly cause a number of accidents. The left lane traffic is generally 10 miles faster than the slower moving right lane. The aggressive driver pushes into the left lane into whatever space is available then usually hits the brakes because they are passing the flow of traffic on the right.
    This causes a chain reaction of all the vehicles in the left slamming on the brakes. I found the only way to prevent this is to keep my following distance to a half car length to prevent them from pushing in but decided this is not a good idea because it could introduce other bad outcomes.
    Anyone have a better idea?
    This is the type of thing the State Police should be ticketing rather than moderate speeding
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    When it happens on I-5 and 18 wheelers are in the herd, one of them will suddenly move Right to block the outside passer and then both 18 wheelers, side by side, slow down while laughing to each other on Ch 17. ;)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    And then one wonders why his tires got shot out...or worse...not that I'd mourn
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    My window looks out at that same stretch...it's crazy that one does see it all the time, even in heavy traffic.

    The road in front of where I live is a 30...seeing hogs race up the hill at 50+ is always nice on the eyes and ears. They are almost worse than the souped up Civic crowd. The tin cans sound better anyway.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    Well, I'll match MB designed suspension to that of ANY domestic product...

    But yeah, Pacifica was being over cautious...and was creating a bottleneck in the process. Off in her own world I am sure.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,704
    The same driver that's afraid to drive on curves without hitting the brakes each time for safety is the same one that will tailgate me because I'm going the speed limit. And if I speed up to 5 over and 10 over she's still tailgating. She'll take the same curves tailgating me at 15 over but won't take them at the limit herself.

    I love those magnetic followers.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Yes, I-95 can be pretty annoying with all the traffic.

    If I'm in the right lane and I see one those lane jumpers pull into my lane from behind, I'll tap on the brake lights to let them know they're not going to make any progress. Usually, they take the hint and move back left.

    When I decide to pass, I try to wait when there isn't a long line of cars trying to pass in the middle lane. Otherwise, there will inevitably be a slowdown and someone will zip over to the right or come up on my rear.

    Best solution: avoid I-95 altogether, if you have the time. When we visited Charleston, SC last June, we took the more direct route (but probably longer in time), using mostly freeways and 4-lane roads from central VA. We did have to go through some towns, and there were a few short stretches of 2-lane road. But far less traffic, and much less stressful. More scenic too!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,560
    I think I'd be more likely to see her going 60 in a 70 in the far left lane.
  • phinneas519phinneas519 Member Posts: 113
    I'm not sure why, but in Northcentral Wisconsin, Toyota drivers seem to act like they own the road. I had a green arrow for a left turn at a massive intersection. The forward traffic across from me was waiting, obviously, and a guy in a white '07 Camry whizzed through, taking the right turn on red without stopping, and nearly hit me because of the traffic obscuring me while making my legal left turn. Hello, earth to Camry driver #0735, you have to stop before you can grab your right turn on red! Not to mention that a block before this, a guy in a T100 cut me off, slammed on his brakes and took a left without signaling. These are just from today, though I've got a lot more where those came from.
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    You didn't get the memo? Red means yield now. Yield means, well...nothing. At least, that is the way it is in Phoenix.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    driving in phoenix. maybe it's the heat or the sun in their eyes.

    i was once driving a rental in phoenix about 8:00am, i was in the middle lane on 3 lane road, and on my right comes a car that side swipes me very hard as in a demolition derby or one of those movies where a vehicle is trying to push another off the road, sending me into the left-most lane.

    vehicle just keeps on going. perhaps the person was drunk or on meds.

    i go immediately to the rental office after waiting a while for a police vehicle that never comes (cell phones weren't as prevalent back then).

    rental agent told me that the area is notorious for bad drivers.

    a decade later i still can't believe it - it was so odd.
  • capitanocapitano Member Posts: 509
    In Miami when we're recovering from a hurricane, the preferred technique is to stop for flashing yellow and blow through flashing red. When there is no light you just kind of wing it and hope for the best.
  • nonjth13nonjth13 Member Posts: 91
    I have found over the years that the safest thing to do in these situations is move over into the right lane until the left lane blockage goes away. I have seen innumerable situations where a train of 10 or more cars are nose to tail in the left lane with a passing differential of 1 or 2 mph just crawling past the cars in the right lane. When you have the added danger of the idiot trying to force his way into line, I just bail out. It all sorts itself out soon enough. I live in the northeast where more often than not the roads are overcrowded. Between the morons who barely do the speed limit in the left lane and the other morons who think they can go 15 mph faster than everyone else, I prefer the non interstate highways or off peak hours. I used to cruise at 85 years ago. Too many cars on the road these days to be able to do that now.
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