Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Talk about congestion! The local college campus has lights every 1000 feet. Timed exactly so that when you get a green the next one is going red.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Sounds like Sheridan road at the extreme north side of Chicago. I swear there is about a dozen lights in a two mile stretch of road. And the all change at the same time.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    As several people have noted, traffic sensors in the pavement can be tripped and that will change the lights. As long as cars keep coming, the light will stay green until a certain time limit is reached. It can be odd though when no cars are around. Depending on the setting, you can approach the light and it will change for you.

    For those who see the light turn red as they approach, the light may have a priority setting. We have some around here that drive me nuts. They are designed to change to green when you trip the sensor while driving on the "non-priority" street and then (if no other cars drive over the sensor) they switch back to green for the "priority" street.

    We have one of those at the end of the highway off ramp I take. The priority is for the street I turn onto so I almost always have to stop after exiting, even if there are no cars coming on the cross street. It is frustrating to see a car take off at that light just as it turns green while I'm exiting. By the time I get there, it switches to red, even though no car is coming the other way. Then I have to sit until enough time passes for the thing to switch back.

    Of course, if I drove the other street, I'd love the priority setting. ;)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,745
    Of course, if I drove the other street, I'd love the priority setting.

    Hahah... I hear you! I would take sensor-managed lights over time-set lights any day. I just have a hard time stomaching the foolishness of lights in areas where traffic density is highly prone to the time of day. I think those intersections should be set to flashing and then switch to stop-go regulation with the sensors during times of day when density warrants. In the event there are folks incapable of making good entry decisions... well, they will get weeded out before too long. :D Considering there are never collisions at those intersections with malfunctions (the lights go to flashing red all around or just shut off altogether) and folks eventually manage to get through the intersection successfully, I think this is a reasonable approach.

    People just get lulled into a false sense of confidence when everything is "controlled" around them. A little decision-making is good for people. :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • gefiltegefilte Member Posts: 21
    ONE DAY WHEN AN OLD CAR Of MINE IS ON ITS LAST LEGS,im going to slam on the brakes and hold on tight.perhaps his/hers insurance company will pay for a nice replacement vehicle as well as my physical therapy as well as my workmans compersion... any better ideas? :mad: ;)
  • kapbotkapbot Member Posts: 113
    The first would be 2-lane turn lanes. Let's say I am turning left at a light with two turn lanes. The right left turn lane is a dedicated lane into my place of work. The left left turn lane is for people who want to continue down the road. Make sense? At least once a week, someone will pull into the lane next to me, on my left, and try to make the corner in such a way that they end up in the right lane, the one my car physically occupies. If you speed up, they will attempt a drag race. Sometimes they are completely clueless and would sideswipe you if you didn't take measures. Sometimes, and almost exclusively, the other driver is in an SUV or Huge pickup truck.
    I think that 90% of the time, these people do it on purpose, thinking they can easily out-accelerate the other car, or they feel that the sheer size of their vehicle is it's own justification..(you don't have to get out of my way, but...).
    Last week, I traded my '02 Dakota for a Saturn Ion. (Save the crap you want to spit out for another forum!) Anyway, I immediately noticed that almost everyone, no matter what they drive, but again mostly Very Large Trucks & SUV's think that they can just swing into the other lane and just blast right on by. They just don't get that while that Hemi or billion litre Chevy/Caddy have a butt load of power,the 3 tons they are pushing is a poor match to 175 hp & 2800 lbs.

    Another popular annoyance is people who evidently have some sort of control on their brakes (NOT BREAKS!!) that are applied whenever the steering wheel wheel is moved more than a couple of degrees off center. " My God! I am driving the safest Volvo in the world! If I don't brake for this gentle curve, the car will flip!!

    I could go on and on, but suffice it to say that it is a good thng I don't carry automatic weapons with me.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    any better ideas?

    Yeah, don't be an #$%^.

    I don't like tailgaters either but why intentionally make a bad situation a thousand times worse?

    Why take a chance on a lifetime of pain from the accident just because you wanted to teach the guy behind you a lesson?

    Not to mention that since there is now an accident you are inconvenicing all the other drivers.

    While tailgating is bad, (unless its outside a football game) intentionally causing an accident is worse.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Saw two yesterday. First me and the wife went to the local home improvement place for landscaping supplies. They have a large yard where the have lumber and landscaping supplies and you can actually drive into and load up your car.

    Well one guy was driving his new Impala through this yard, driving nice and slow and being great with regards to the people walking in the yard. But this guy drove in such a manner that he ended up getting scraped by a couple of carts sitting in they yard. Not only that but be was getting bags of rocks (for use like mulch) that eventually weighed down his car so low it had to have damaged his suspension.

    The second was going home. There is this left turn with a real long left turn lane. Near the beginning of this left turn lane was a cute ute that had broken down and had its hazard flashers on. well there was this one guy behind him with his left turn signal on, This guy most likely didn't see the hazard flashers and the fact that nobody was a head of this cute ute.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Hahaha that is damned funny...

    Both the sickly moan and the "Voice Of God."

    Maybe she thought you were an unmarked cop. Talk about stealth! A cop driving a decrepit old van with a flakey horn...
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    I don't think the slam-on-the-brakes idea was meant to be taken entirely seriously, so much as to make a point. After all, if I needed to slam on the brakes and a tailgater smashed me from behind, he or she would take a big insurance hit and learn a valuable (but expensive) lesson.

    Just like I sometimes have the urge to smack somebody but never actually act on it, I -- too -- sometimes have to urge to slam on the brakes and let a tailgater f*ck him/herself. Of course, that doesn't mean I'm going to do it. But there's a certain satisfaction in the fantasy.
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    ;)Another popular annoyance is people who evidently have some sort of control on their brakes (NOT BREAKS!!) that are applied whenever the steering wheel wheel is moved more than a couple of degrees off center. " My God! I am driving the safest Volvo in the world! If I don't brake for this gentle curve, the car will flip!!

    THANK YOU!!!

    Yes, not only is this annoying, but it causes major backups on crowded highways wherever there's a gentle curve or slight downhill slope. 1000 people braking slightly amplifies synergistically into gridlock.

    Funny that many people drive like they're on ice when taking curves, yet you still see lots of accidents when the weather does turn bad.

    Not that this is a realistic proposal, but I think we'd all be better off if people took race driving courses along with regular driving courses in order to get their licenses. It's just that these curve-brakers grossly underestimate their cars' capabilities.

    It's all about knowing where the safety limits lie, and being smart enough not to exceed them in any given kind of conditions.

    I guess that puts too much faith in people, though ;)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,745
    Speaking of brakers, I was behind one tonight. I did not actually notice the brakes slowing the car down significantly, but the driver of this newer Grand Prix would press his brakes about 3-4 times per mile. During this same distance (all told, I was behind him about 7 miles), I never once hit my brakes until we had to stop at the first light coming into town. It was oddly puzzling to me, but now I know why a lot of folks find it strange that I just replaced my original rear brake pads at 193K miles. I press the brake when it is needed, otherwise I anticipate and just take my darned foot off the accelerator. :sick:

    The slow down / speed up brakers are far worse though. Ugh. I rode with one of those once and I felt like reaching across the seat and strangling the lady. :mad: Not that I *would* though.... (see nightvzn's post above) :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,592
    Slow corner-ers are common here too, especially among older drivers and in small towns. They'll take a corner in a Camry like it was a 50 year old double decker bus. Cornering is fun, not scary!
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    The official answer:

    http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/HTM/2003r1/part2/part2b2.htm#section2B31

    No, it is not OK to disobey.

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    Which means very little if the police do not enforce it.

    It's best summed up in the quote from President Andrew Jackson, "(Chief Justice) John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!"
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    Here in the Washington-Baltimore area, I've noticed a large number of vehicles that consistantly tap their brakes. Just enough to get the brake lights to activate, but not to actually engage the brakes

    It doesn't matter the circumstances, either. The 'brake-tapper' could be tailgating, be tailgated, be in heavy traffic, or be in absolutely no traffic whatsoever.

    I don't understand it myself, but it's really annoying. Mainly because I actually pay attention to my surroundings while on the road, so if I see a someone's brakelights activate 600 yards ahead, I notice and think that there must actually BE a situation ahead that requires a slower speed.

    Heck, I've even seen the 'brake-tappers' ACCELERATE while tapping their brakes.

    Anybody else seen this phenomenon... or have any insight as to why anyone would do this?

    :confuse: :cry:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712
    I wonder if they're not really applying the brakes but rather are riding with their foot against the pedal to be ready in case of emergency like a curve in the road or an oncoming car or ???? and just pushing the brake pedal down slightly closes the switch that turns the brake lights on...

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    Also, I don't know how common this is, but sometimes the brake pedal won't always come back fully when you take your foot off of it, so it could still be lighting up the brakes. I've actually had this happen to two cars of mine. My '68 Dart would do it occasionally, and my '00 Intrepid did it once. I went into a KFC one night and when I came out with my food, I saw my brake lights were on! Freaked me out! I got in the car and put my foot under the brake pedal and pulled it back toward me, and they went off. And it never did it again. I forget how I fixed it on the Dart, though.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,712
    The switch is usually in a sliding holder and you push it down toward the floor while depressing the brake pedal. Then you let the brake pedal come up and that sets the position for the highest brake pedal. A short distance down from that the plunger on the brake switch extends enough that the lights come on. That's how I recall my Fords from that era were built.

    If someone had pulled the pedal up with the top of their foot, they may have raised the sliding brake switch so that their pedal is normally riding very close to the on contact position.

    I think many of the brake light twinklers are using both feet and driving on alert ready to push the brake at any sign of impending doom like a slight curve, an oncoming car, a bug on the road, a chicken, sundown, etc.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    When the two couples of us drive somewhere, I'm always behind the wheel because the friend's wife is aware he taps the brake pedal for no reason at all. This jostles the passengers, but he isn't aware of doing it.

    His speech stutters most of the time and he frequently erupts with "Uhh, Uhhh, Uhh and You knows". I'm of the opinion his frequent braking for no reason is a physical and/or nervous condition. He has done this for over thirty years, but lately is getting more pronounced.

    It would seem there are quite a few 'nervous Neds' out there.
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Hahaha .. reminds me of the time I was getting on I-81 near Syracuse NY in my '96 Buick Skylark. I floored the accelerator to get up to speed, and when I tried to release the pedal, it had other things in mind (namely staying stuck to the floor).

    This created a disconcerting moment of pseudo-crisis until I was able to free the stuck accelerator with a few swift kicks. I suppose if all else failed I could have killed the engine and drifted to the shoulder.

    But can you imagine explaining that to a cop? "Sorry, Officer, I didn't mean to be going over 100 ... it was my car's idea...!"

    That Buick had many interesting quirks, and the stuck accelerator had to rank among the best.

    Sorry, slightly off-topic since you were talking about a brake pedal sticking, but I couldn't help it.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    I think the two main reasons why you see brakes on the freeway/highway are:

    1) the two-footed drivers (as already mentioned).

    2) those who are using cruise control and tap the brakes as they come up on someone who is going slower. That way they just have to hit the re-accelerate button to get back to their previous speed.

    In city traffic the vast majority would be those with their left foot resting on the brake pedal.... which is pretty much the only way you could accelerate while tapping the brakes. Unless you have hand controls or very long arms. ;)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,592
    Today I saw a rental fleet Chrysler convertible make a left turn from the right turn lane. Good for a laugh.

    I also spotted a clapped out old Exploder going about 60 on my 30mph street...of course local revenue enforcement camps out on higher volume streets (although mine is hardly deserted) - more yield, more money...no, what I mean by that is more safety!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    2) those who are using cruise control and tap the brakes as they come up on someone who is going slower. That way they just have to hit the re-accelerate button to get back to their previous speed.

    Just about every car I ever had with cruise has a cancel button which disengages the cruise without resetting it so you can just hit resume to get back to your old speed.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    I, for sure would not disagree with your observation, as probably neither would he. However, it is clear he is saying that a LOT of folks USE the brake, inconsiderately (as far as I am concerned) to deactivate this option. The point is that this way to deactivate is conspicuously observable, which can have the affect/effect of changing somebody s' behavior unnecesssarily.

    For one, I do not step on the brakes SOLELY to "deactive" the cruise control. However, I am getting the feeling I may be among a minority group.
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    It couldn't be the cruise-control users as the 'brake-tapper' phenomenon around here usually has the tappers tapping the brakes every 2-3 seconds, regardless of road conditions.

    And I'm not too sure about the two-foot drivers, either. I might consider it if the phenomenon occurred only during high-traffic times. But it happens regardless of road conditions. I've seen completely empty highways on early Sunday mornings, with only myself and one other car, and that other car will merrily tap-tap-tappy-tap their brakes for miles and miles.

    Somedays, it just makes me want to get in front of them and then do the same back at them.

    (And no, I'm not tailgating. Heck, I'm not even in the same lane.)

    :cry:
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Tailgaters who are afraid of tailgating?
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    Naaah. I'd understand it if that were the case.

    I used to think that it involved a loose brake pedal, but I don't think that would really cause this to happen.
  • carlisimocarlisimo Member Posts: 1,280
    OK, so it's not usually avoidable... but I did see more dead cats than ever today. No more crocrodile hunter to protect them =/.

    I also saw a lot of cops out for Labor Day making sure we all followed our "nothing happened on May 1, 1886, nothing at all... let's pick an innocuous day to celebrate Labor Day by taking it totally easy" indoctrination. On 880, with a natural flow of 75mph at the time, a Mercedes took a flyover ramp at 85 (harmlessly) and got nabbed right away. I was very close from taking the same ramp at 80mph on a whim... got kinda lucky.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    That sounds just like a two-footed driver to me. They usually rest their left foot on the brake so that the light goes on and off. They don't really mean to press it but with their foot resting on the pedal, it just happens.
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Labor day weekend brings out the speed traps. :) I'm taking the highway between Cottonwood, AZ and Prescott, AZ, which involves changing highways. I make the switch and see a SL sign for 50. So I start moving up from what I thought was the SL of 35 and get up to about 45, when no more than 1/2 mile later I see a cop on the side of the road next to a 35 MPH sign! :mad:

    Then taking the reverse course, there is a 50 MPH sign in the middle of all the switch backs heading down the mountain. Not 1000 feet later is a squiggly road sign stating 35 MPH. So I clear those and start speeding up to 50, not a 1/2 mile later, guess what? Speed reduced to 35. WTH is up with putting a 50 where it obviously can't be used? :sick:

    I also took I-17 from Phoenix to Flagstaff. I was watching and saw an umarked cop in the median, at night watching traffic coming the other direction. It was at the bottom of the small hill, where one's cruise control could easily get overzealous trying to hold the 75 MPH SL.

    The only other issue is AZ's penchant for setting highways with two lanes in each direction and a generous median to a SL of 65 when it could easily be 75.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,745
    Ahahahaha! That happened to my dad when he was driving our 1980 Subaru GL wagon. It must have been around 1986 or so, but we were headed into town and were going down a long, straight hill. He went to pass a commercial truck and just kept going.... and going.... we were all a little nervous in the back seat when my step-mom said, "Honey, slow down! You're going over 90!" Needless to say, that was the first time we had ever gone anywhere near that speed in that gutless little car! :surprise:

    Not that those situations are funny at the time, but if they end well and after the problem is fixed, then one can take time out to chuckle. :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,745
    I used to think that it involved a loose brake pedal, but I don't think that would really cause this to happen.

    No, you are correct there. Loose pedals (that do not come all the way up) can cause the lights to illuminate, but it would typically manifest itself as more of a flicker than a lengthy on or off. I had a problem with my '69 Econoline and never noticed it until someone was nice enough to mention it to me at a fueling station. It was an easy fix, but not so easy to see it when it only happens while in motion!

    On my van, the switch has a plunger that is "on" when the plunger is fully extended (pedal moves away from the switch toward the floorboard) and "off" when the plunger is depressed (pedal is not depressed). In my case the bracket holding the switch was loose (rather than the pedal) and thus the plunger was depressed just far enough to turn the lights off, but would jiggle on momentarily when driving over uneven surfaces like gravel, etc.

    Somewhat embarrassing, but I guess people probably expect that sort of quirk with ugly old vehicles. :blush:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Labor day weekend brings out the speed traps.

    You know I can't recall seeing one single cop this weekend outside the big end of summer bash that a nearby town had.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Wow, I counted no less than a dozen cops, marked and unmarked.
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    Ah... hadn't really thought about them.

    I always considered myself a two-footed driver, but I never have both feet touching the pedals at the same time.

    (though, the left foot's for the brake... and the right's for the gas).

    :P
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,745
    Interesting that you folks mention that. I always thought "two-footed driving" was a myth. :blush: I, too, learned to drive sticks long before I ever drove an auto, but gas/brake was always a right foot operation, regardless of the presence of a clutch. I was forced to "learn" two-footed driving on a trip down from Alaska when I had a valve stem break on my van's 302. It happened on the #1 cylinder, but thankfully bent and did not fall into the cylinder, so I just pulled the spark plug and took the rockers and push rods out to deactivate that cylinder. Because it was the #1, my power took a serious hammering. I ended up having to drive it like a manual, shifting from 1 to 2 and from 2 to D at 30 and 50, respectively. Otherwise, my RPMs were too low and I had no power and risked stalling. So, when driving below about 15-20, I would have to throw it in neutral and brake while revving the engine. It was a sad thing, really, but it took me the final 1000 miles to home where I could tear down the head and replace the valve. :sick:

    Navigating Seattle was a real chore, as I had to drop my brother off in some subdivision nestled atop a hill. Bleah. Not a trip I would care to repeat, but better than the return journey to Alaska a couple months later! :surprise:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,088
    I went through a phase when I was younger, when I thought that I could react more quickly by braking with my left foot. However, since I had learned to drive on an automatic, I was quick enough just using my right foot.

    Only time I'd do the two-footed thing would be if I wanted to "power brake" my Dart or Catalina, and make a lot of noise and send smoke billowing up into the air.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,592
    Would it be considered inconsiderate to be pulling a junky old trailer with a contractor's white van in the dark...neither vehicles having brake lights and the van only having one working tailight? Because that's what I saw this morning. The trailer was wide and almost always covered up the van's working light...I could see some kind of shape up ahead, but didn't know what it was til I was a bit closer. Brilliantly negligent.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    There was a railroad crossing in Tennessee that had a sign that read "Ties go to the train".

    We used to have a problem with trains hitting cars here around Chicago until the started installing cameras at crossings and even started stationing police at rail road stations. Lots of people started paying big fines and the problem has gone down a lot.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,592
    Seems around here we went through a good period with no train incidents...but in the past year or so I can think of a few. Who knows...

    Today while driving home from work I was tailgated for about 2 miles by a youngish blond in a pimped out somewhat ragged 95-99 Eclipse. I was in the left lane, going 40 in a 35, the same speed as the car in front of me, and the car in front of it, etc. She came out from a side street and planted herself so close to my butt I went a long time without being able to see her lights. She was also smoking, which worries me as much as people yapping on the phone...but to her credit she didn't panic or get excited when I occasionally let off the gas to test her. I was hoping she'd try to thread the needle by cutting right and going between the slowpokes gawking at such exotic sights as buildings and trees, so I could just tap the gas and not let her get away with it...but she turned off the road.
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    This afternoon, I had the wonderful experience of driving home.

    While the highway experience was decent, once I got off the highway, I found myself in dense city-street traffic... side-by-side to a Chevy truck. That truck could not stay in it's own lane, it weaved back and forth moving in and out of the lane I was in.

    Eventually, I had to honk my horn in order to focus his attention on the road. However, the person in front of me was probably scratching his head... wondering why I was honking at him. I probably appeared to be quite the inconsiderate driver to that fellow.

    :(

    And if we had horns on all four sides of our cars, we could target our horns at the proper offenders.

    :shades:
  • redmaxxredmaxx Member Posts: 627
    Hey....

    I was on my way home today, minding my own business, when all of a sudden the guy behind me blasted the horn. What the... oh it was you? ;)

    j/k j/k
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    That, and highbeams facing rearward for flashing at people cluelessly driving down the highway with their brights on, blinding everybody :)

    I've sometimes dealt with this problem by slowing down so the person passes, peering in through their side window to confirm that yes, that little blue light on the dashboard IS on, then getting behind them and bringing them back to reality with a few quick flashes. But sometimes even that doesn't work ... I speed back up and get in front of them, and their high beams are still blasting away...

    Now if I could just shine a spotlight rearward, maybe they'd get the hint.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,592
    Today's winners...a woman in an Arizona-played Tucson (no joke) going 30 in a 40 and carrying a lineup of about 10-15 cars behind her. Absolutely oblivious to everything as she was chatting with her passenger. I wish this area had a rep for shootings so people would behave.

    Also, a late-model looking school bus that belched a lot of awful black smoke on its way up the minor hill where I live. It's awesome that large/commercial vehicles can operate in a vacuum of responsibility when it comes to such matters.

    Oh, and rear facing fog lights were once a common option on Euro cars, at least in the home market. I want not just horns going in every direction, but flamethrowers. Take that, Tucson!
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    repeatedly lighting up my brake lights in a series of 3 flashes

    Reminds me when a driver was being kidnapped in Oregon and heading West on US30 with the gunman in the backseat. The driver calmly and discreetly tapped SOS in Morse code with his brake pedal until another motorist caught on, phoned the police with a complete description of the car. The OR police stopped the car and arrested the kidnapper. :)
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    That's pretty darn smart. I suppose though that the number of people who know SOS in Morse code is declining rapidly (sort of like people who know how to use a slide rule).
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Ahh yes. "Slipsticks" & "Stickshifts" Knowing how to use both reveals a "Geezer Racer".

    Cigarette smokers are the most inconsiderate drivers. They have bad breath, tarnished teeth, horrible body odor, quickly eliminate that new car smell, cause cancer with their 2nd hand smoke, and create forest fires by not using their ash trays. (She said,"If I use the ash tray, it will stink up the car.") :mad:
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    i've found a (useful to me) means to get someone who's following to turn off their high-beams.

    i turn off my lights, wait a second and turn them back on.

    generally that is enough to get people to realize there is an issue with their high/low beam setting. sometimes it is necessary to do this twice.

    i have not had it fail yet, but i'm sure now that i've mentioned it, the next time it won't work. ;)

    another thing i have done is cycle my rear-view mirror a few times.
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Yes, I've used a similar technique to get high-beam-followers to wake up. Sometimes on the highway I'll use both feet to "strobe" my brakelights (tapping really fast on the pedals like I was playing double bass drum in a death metal band or something). Probably not good for the bulbs in my brakelights but it occasionally alerts people that something is up.
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