Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    I'd like to know his credentials and statements verbatim....and if anyone supports them.

    I'll take the statements of a MB specialist with 25 years independent experience and clientele including 300SLs, a fleet of Porsche 356s, and a large personal car collection as worth something too.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    And on the inconsiderate driver topic...oh the LLCs on I5 last night. I went away for the holiday yesterday. My sister drove, as she lives close, and wanted to carpool. She's mainly a pretty competent driver, she's attentive, always looks ahead, and doesn't speed unreasonably. The drive there wasn't a huge stupid driver issue mainly because volumes were so heavy that nobody was moving - 100 miles in 3 and a half hours. But the drive home late last night...my god, I can't count the amount of idiots stuck in the left lane going UNDER THE LIMIT with scores of people passing on the right. Minivans with flip down TVs seem especially offensive in this regard, we must have passed 10 of them on the right. It was amazing.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Member Posts: 811
    the same thing goes for New Jersey. It is also against the law to pump your own gas.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    Even at 4:45 this morning I was taking my lovely bride to a Kohl's store to purchase a sale item at the store opening of 5 a.m.(!!!!) and had a tailgater come up fast on my bumper in a 50 zone on I70 where an overpass at I75 requires Ebound traffic to use westbound lanes. It has sharp bends and temporary concrete walls guiding two narrowed lanes. Right there on my "rear" and the right hand lane was open. She was welcome to jump the solid line and use it. Stayed behind me until I changed lanes a mile and more later to exit.

    She had come up on me with 20 or more speed differential. Lanes were hers; first time in decades I'd seen fewer than 10 cars (and trucks) behind and in front of me total on I70. Kind of nice at that hour. Usually there are 80% trucks and 20% cars at times on I70.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jacknzonejacknzone Member Posts: 82
    Yes ,at night they ask you to prepay here, What the kids are doing , is they are going the shopping centre car parks looking for the same model car as them ,taking its reg plates and putting them on there car . Then down to full up there car.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    Some people are just afraid of passing on the right, it seems. Personally, I won't hesitate to do so.

    Speaking of tailgaters, we did have one incident. On Wednesday night in a blinding rain about 10pm, a big jacked up Chevy pickup with about 20 sets of foglights came up behind us (in the right lane) and got right on the bumper of my sister's little Focus. We were going about 60 in a 60 on a local highway in a kind of inbred part of WA where such vehicles are common. My sister starts up with a stream of profanity...I just tell her to slowly lower her speed and he'll go around. By the time she got down to 55 or so, he shot by, probably going about 80+ by the time he got around. Sadly, we didn't see an upside down truck out in a field or in a ditch a few miles ahead. It was really pouring out...the wipers on that car were going full speed and could hardly keep up.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    We were going about 60 in a 60 on a local highway in a kind of inbred part of WA where such vehicles are common.

    LOL, we have some of those parts right here (central VA)! And then there are the cliches about West Virginia, which isn't very far from me!
  • jacknzonejacknzone Member Posts: 82
    ITs so strange what people do, when I heard about the kids taking the plates so they can steal petrol from the service stations .I did notice a car going down the road with no plates on it , so now I always look to see if they are still there, the petrol has gone down 30 cent a litre so it not on the news now . But it maybe still happening. you were luck that you did not get stop by the Police or what would have happen if you try to trade your truck in. The salesman would have look at you side way .
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,760
    If there are any full service stations then they are few and faaaaaaar between.

    Three years ago I was yelled at in Oregon for trying to pump my own fuel. With ignorant bliss, I hopped from the car, scanned my card, chose my fuel grade, and was just about to pull the trigger when someone yells, "Hey! You can't pump your own gas!" I said, "No? Why did you not tell me that earlier? I have pumped my own for years!" The fella explains to me that Oregon law requires station attendants pump the fuel (I do not recall it being that way when I lived there, but then I rarely filled up at public stations, so maybe I am just forgetting). Then later on, I could tell he took offense when I checked the oil and washed the windows myself. Eh, habit, though I hope he was not expecting a tip! It was like visiting a foreign culture unexpectedly....:surprise:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Three years ago I was yelled at in Oregon for trying to pump my own fuel. With ignorant bliss, I hopped from the car, scanned my card, chose my fuel grade, and was just about to pull the trigger when someone hells, "Hey! You can't pump your own gas!" I said, "No? Why did you not tell me that earlier? I have pumped my own for years!"

    I never understood that law. Learned about it last year when I was in Oregon as well. The guy came over to pump gas into my Titan and I mentioned that it was hard to put gas in it and I'd rather do it myself. He shrugged and said "well, I don't see you pumping your own gas" then he walked off. It was hard to put gas in my truck, very fussy beast it was and I didn't want gas sprayed all over the side of it (major pet peeve). At least he was cool about it.

    Wasn't so lucky the second time I went through Oregon, the guy started the pump going in my truck and walked away to do another car. It clicked off and got fussy, so I stared messing with it to get it to go in. He came running back over and said "you can't do that, you can't touch it" I simply said it wasn't working since the truck was fussy. He got it going and walked away, it filled up, I topped it off, and hung it back up. He wasn't very happy about that, but oh well, lol. :P
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,760
    Sorry to hear about the horrid traffic in other places. Everyone was telling me the roads were dry all the way between Fairbanks and Anchorage. I hit the road at 2000hrs with my little man and the pup. The first 50 miles (to Nenana) were fairly slick with a light snowish stuff falling. I ended up doing a few power slides around curves - and I even took them all at the "recommended" speed! I had to laugh at a couple of vehicles (small sedan and a huge pickup) that I approached headed up the long, winding hill by Skinny Dick's. They were both steadfastly traveling in the left lane even though they were, most decidedly, the "slower" traffic. Apparently that lane was better used and therefore less slick. Passing the truck, I probably had the car about 10 degrees out of true heading around a bend. Sheesh. It was LeMans... slow motion! hehe.

    Anyway, other than a being held up at 45 (in a 65... 90% of the Parks Highway is 65) for about 3 miles heading into Nenana and then again for about a mile outside of Clear junction, the roads were tolerably empty. 346 miles in 6 hours, 10 minutes with 4 stops (brief). But, considering my fastest speed was 70 save the two times I had to pass the same vehicle that liked to cut curves and speed up when I passed by, making that time was due to clear highways. I missed the inclement weather for which I had hoped, but I sure appreciated that pillow at 0210 rather than 0510!!!

    We will see how it is on the flip side. I plan to head out Sunday morning, so it will likely be a busier road. Plus, the little man will be awake and no doubt less thrilled about the prospect of a long trip. :sick:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Even at 4:45 this morning I was taking my lovely bride to a Kohl's store to purchase a sale item at the store opening of 5 a.m.(!!!!)

    Your lucky, I had to stay up late on turkey day and at 11:30 was taking my lovely bride to the local outlet mall that was opening at midnight :sick: At 1:00am this place was packed, at 2:00am there was a line of cars snaking into the parking lot. :confuse:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Went to see a friend yesterday and was going down I-80 past Joliet. Road was pretty clear in front of me and I was going at a good pace (80 or so) with a group of cars behind me keeping pace. I came on an interchange with a few cars entering the Interstate, so I and the cars behind me merged into the left lane to pass these much slower cars merging onto the Interstate.

    Guess what? The last car in that line of cars goes straight to the left lane, I had to almost stand on my brakes to keep from rear ending her. With a half dozen cars following me doing 80 MPH+ I am amazed that there wasn't an accident because when I settled in behind her we were doing 50 MPH or so.

    Next thing was on the way home. Pretty much the same situation, me doing around 80 MPH, clear road a head of me and a whole lot of traffic following me about 1/8 mile back. All of a sudden I noticed one car making a few lane changes and gets past all that traffic then passes me. No real problem, but as soon as he passes me all the traffic that was pacing me for the that 3 or 4 miles started pacing the car that passed me. :confuse:

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    Outlet mall between Cincy and Columbus ('bout 50 miles, our closest) opened at midnight and gave out gift certificates to different stores each hour. Someone called radio talk 700 Friday morning saying they sat over an hour (hour and quarter?)on interstate waiting to get off at exit!!!

    This Black Friday stuff is becoming all night affairs. How soon till they will be opening at 5 am on Thanksgiving for the same shopping?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    We've got to go to Anchorage on Wednesday coming back Thursday. I'm glad I don't have to go through the hills near Fairbanks, they be a bit slick. I don't have any problem.....studded snow tires, but seems like I'm always having to pass someone with summer tires going 30 mph.

    My trip is only about 280 miles since I'm down south of Anderson. Usually takes us about 4 1/2 to 5 hrs depending on the roads. Hopefully they hold. However, history tells us that Cantwell will get a HUGE snow storm the day we head down......that's the norm for us, lol.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,760
    :P Hahaha.... usually for me as well, but no such luck this time.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Guess what? The last car in that line of cars goes straight to the left lane, I had to almost stand on my brakes to keep from rear ending her. With a half dozen cars following me doing 80 MPH+ I am amazed that there wasn't an accident because when I settled in behind her we were doing 50 MPH or so.

    I've seen a number of these cases where people just habitually go straight to the left lane when getting on the highway, sometimes with NOBODY else on the road (in which case there's no good reason for them to be in the left lane). It's almost a "I don't want to have to think at all, so I'll just hang out over on the far left" sort of thing. I wonder what qualified them for such special privileges?
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Hahaha.... usually for me as well, but no such luck this time.

    I thought I was the only one with such luck, lol. We went down in February of 2005 with a rented 2003 Ford Escape (my Titan was in the shop with a busted front end), no snow tires, and it was the year of the drifts in Cantwell. I don't know how many times we had to go into the other lane just to avoid the 4-6 ft drifts. Amazed me there was no accidents. That little Escape did great even though it had summer tires.......I have a snow tire obession......can't stand to drive without them, lol.

    We have snow tires on all 3 trucks.......TDS LOVES us, lol. We had to buy 14 winter tires this year.....4 for my truck, 4 for the Ford, and 6 for hubby's dually.....can you say OUCH??? Hopefully we have an uneventful trip, although I'm sure we'll see plenty of driving acts of stupidity, always do.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    You can't pump your own gas in New Jersey either. However, the upside is you get full service and the fuel is cheaper than in Pennsylvania.
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    I figured it would be the opposite. I wonder why ?

    Rocky
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Maybe its the taxes?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    That's what I assumed but.....

    Rocky
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,680
    has lower gas taxes than PA or NY, so we get to sell gas (and liquor!) to all the border crossers.

    Actually, it doesn't cost much more to run a full service station. Lots of the normal size stations (2 islands) only have 2 attendants on duty, sometimes one, and the self service places have at least one. SO maybe you are paying an extra $10/$20 hr for attendants? If you do enough volume, you don't have to charge much more per gallon to pay that.

    Besides, there are very few attendants in my area that I would let near my engine compartment. It's not like the old days where the mechanic came out wiping his hands on a rag!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    I'm with you on that. There's a post over in transmissions trauma about a suburu that had a quicky oil change and the guy drained and refilled the transmission--with engine oil.

    "You're a quart low, I'll put in that quart, sir."
    "Oooops."

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    I was in absolutely no mood to be on the road today, coming off the Thanksgiving holiday. Most of my driving since last Wednesday has taken place without many other people on the road (thank goodness).

    I'm sitting at the left turn onto the expressway, waiting for a green arrow. It arrives. We start moving veeeeryy sloooowly. I look ahead and see the cause: a Contour turning left onto the expressway at an absolute snail's pace.

    We finally all got moving and most of us got in the right lane to pass this person. I confirmed that yes, he was very old, and yes, he was driving down the road with his wipers on with the sun shining and no rain. :confuse:

    A little while later on 101, I'm only a few miles from my exit, and things are moving well as usual (I don't usually get on the road until about 9:30-9:45). And then we hit a pocket of mild rain. Aaaand the traffic grinds to a halt. :mad: :sick: I have to wonder, do the majority of these people just stand on their brakes the moment they see a drop of precipitation? That's the going joke in the bay area, where rain is seen as a horrific threat, but I'm really thinking it's more reality than allegory.

    Two people made unsignaled lane changes directly into my path today. Both got the horn treatment. I go back and forth on using the horn on these dingbats. I believe the horn is best used to notify a driver that (s)he is doing something dangerous (rather than just venting anger), and unsignaled lane changes certainly qualify as highly dangerous, in my mind. But if I beeped at every unsignaled lane change I saw around here, I'd wear out my horn!

    Plus I ride with people here sometimes and apparently the bay area non-signaling trend is infectious, because a lot of them fail to signal as well. I find myself sitting in the passenger seat gritting my teeth and wanting to be invisible to any competent drivers who happen to be witnessing the spectacle. :sick:

    Sigh, it's not going to be a good day...
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Helps to understand how the California BMW handled the lumpy rain (snow) on I-5 South of BC last night. No signaling before switching lanes, following too close on compact snow/ice, but he eventually got through............
    on the [non-permissible content removed] end of a tow truck. ;)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,760
    Ahhh.... hahahahah. Justice is served!

    I came back from Anchorage yesterday with no problems. Amazingly, I actually made slightly better time than the trip down: 6 hours flat this time, but only made 3 stops. Once again, the roads between Anchorage and Nenana were great, save for intermittent frost on the road that did not slick it up much.

    The wind was picking up at Healy (about 106 miles from Fairbanks) - probably gusting to 30 or 40 mph. By Nenana, though, whoa! The wind was out of control - gusting to who-knows-what, but bending the trees enough that I could occasionally see the tops of spruce in my headlights (bent like sideways "L"s along the roadside). The hills were slick again, but it was graveled this time which made it a little unpredictable. I will never understand why they dump gravel or salt on the roads - it seems so unncessary.

    I ended up passing probably 30 vehicles in the 45 miles through the hills, but luckily I hit the "clumps" almost precisely when there was a 3rd (passing) lane and most everyone was obligingly disciplined in their lane use. There was one driver of a Suburban (complete with rear-seat DVD in operation!) who did not feel he needed to use the right lane. I had to weave between him and other vehicle in the right lane who was slowly overtaking him, so he received a healthy dose of my top-mounted driving lights though I do hope they did not miss too much of their movie. :sick: Another driver was slow to figure out that he was, indeed, "slower traffic," and started to take to the right lane as I was passing on that side - but he figured out to wait a few moments before completing the (sans signal) move. With a little 4-banger in my old car (220,000 miles!), I cannot wait around for other drivers to get a clue when trying to pull a hill. There was an obliterated SUV along the side of the road that failed to take a downhill curve on a particularly slippery section of road (next to Skinny Dick's, for akangl). No ambulance on the scene, so either the Trooper was waiting for a tow truck at that point and the ambulance had gone, or the occupant(s) somehow managed to escape injury. The vehicle was a goner, though! Ironically, I thought as I was headed into that hill, "I better take it easy on this one - I do not want to get into a skid going down this hill." It has a couple of fairly decent, non-banked curves that can catch drivers by surprise - especially going down, since it is a fairly steep grade. I ended up going 60 around that particular curve (the one on which the SUV crashed) with no problems.

    Regarding snow tires, I have decided I will get a set + winter rims for my next vehicle. Right now I use Goodyear Assurance Tripletred. They are the best all-season (on ice) I have ever used, but I think I take about a 5-10% hit to my fuel economy. :cry:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    We got a little snow here yesterday, and the idiots always make themselves known. Of course the typical dopes on TV driving their SUVS into ditches and trees...but what really irks me most is people driving around with snow-covered cars. Of course, the snow often becomes projectiles at speeds. Do cops ever get people for this? It has to be considered negligent somehow.

    It's pretty damp here now, and expected to freeze tonight...I am glad I don't have to go out in the morning. It's going to be messy. I've never had any problems, but in a 300+hp car with RWD and low profile tires, I am sure you can only do so much.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,760
    May I borrow it tomorrow? I could have a whole heck of a lot of fun! :D

    Naw, I am with you on that one. Considering the general amount of driver ineptitude that comes to light on such days, it is better to avoid the roads altogether. A shame, really.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Ahhh.... hahahahah. Justice is served!

    May I just emphasize, for the record, that although I currently live in California? I am NOT a California driver? :) I'm getting the impression from some of these posts that this lovely state's drivers have reputations extending beyond its borders.

    Right now I use Goodyear Assurance Tripletred.

    I got those for my last set of tires on my Maxima. They were supposedly better performers (dry weather, even) than whatever pieces of poo I had on there previously. I was reasonably happy with them too, and the tread looks really aggressive.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    I also live on a slight hill...so unless the forecast is botched (about 75% of the time here), my car is staying inside. I just don't trust the people around here. When I see some woman in her RX drinking coffee and slamming on her brakes on a slick street, I am a little leery.

    I used to try to take the fintail out in the snow when I could, but now it sleeps in a garage in an even hillier area, so it will stay in too. If it gets bad maybe I'll walk down to the bottom of the hill and watch some carnage.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    There was an obliterated SUV along the side of the road that failed to take a downhill curve on a particularly slippery section of road (next to Skinny Dick's, for akangl). No ambulance on the scene, so either the Trooper was waiting for a tow truck at that point and the ambulance had gone, or the occupant(s) somehow managed to escape injury. The vehicle was a goner, though!

    That must be this one:

    Location: Fairbanks
    Case number: ---------
    Type: MVC-I
    Text: On 11-26-06 at 0842 hrs. AST received a report of a single
    vehicle rollover on the Parks Highway near MP 321. Investigation
    revealed that a 1998 Land Rover driven by a -------, 18, of Barrow,
    lost control and rolled the vehicle onto its roof. Two passengers were
    ejected and received injuries. ---------, 18, of Barrow, was a
    rear seat passenger who complained of back and neck pain. ---------, 18, of Barrow, was the front seat passenger and had several
    teeth knocked out and a broken arm. No one was utilizing their safety
    belts. The vehicle was totaled.
    Author: ENC0
    Received and posted Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:22 PM

    Figured I'd take the names out even though it is on the trooper report.

    I just got back from Fairbanks a bit ago, roads seemed pretty good. Did 65-70 in the hills but once across the bridge in Nenana I was hauling tail averaging 80 mph. Passed one guy before Nenana, he was doing 65 (speed limit) but I wanted to go a bit faster. Started to pass him and he punched it, I had to jump up to almost 90 to get around him. After I was past he slowed back down. Good thing my truck has some get up and go.

    Got nailed by one semi for having my low beams on......heaven forbid!! He decided that my low beams were too bright and nailed me with his offroad lights. He's lucky I was tired or I would have been on the CB telling him exactly what I thought. As it was I nailed him back with my brights.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    We had a decent little shot of snow late yesterday, so today there is almost no traffic here. However, half the cars on the road have 4" of snow on their roofs, and obscured windows.

    My street is bare and dry, and I drove down to the post office, about 1.5 miles away maybe. I had no problems, even in the icy shaded spots. Lots of people going painfully slow on the dry streets though. There's black ice, not grey ice. I got behind a white trade/box van that was crawling, like 5mph on a bare street. These are the same guys who will go 20 over in the rain...
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Got behind a Hummer today with environmental plates on it. Talk about conflicting ideals.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    These posts about ice and snow are making me nervous about winter's coming. We usually have colder weather and some flurry and frost here by now. It's been 60s the last few days.

    I'm dreading the snow that will come.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    Here's how it was yesterday evening

    And this morning

    Pretty unusual for this area. People here can't deal with it.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,760
    Obviously not! Wow! Send that snow storm my way. I would love 24" of fresh snow.

    This trooper was delusional when he said this:

    "It's unbelievable. It's like I'm driving in Alaska out here," said Trooper Jeff Merrill of the Washington State Patrol, from directing drivers near I-405 and State Route 527 in Bothell.

    Not even Anchorage drivers are that bad in winter conditions! :P

    Considering the rarity of these conditions in the area, this is a serious weather front so I do hope you stay safe through it! I bet my friend Pete is tearing his hair out over the lunacy he is seeing on the roads. Hehehe... serves him right for leaving in the first place!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • nightvznnightvzn Member Posts: 232
    Yikes. Note to self: if I live in a snowy region again, make it a less populous one like the one I grew up in. If the bay area got slammed with snow (which would be kind of like hell freezing over ... literally...), I'd never get back to my apartment.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    but what really irks me most is people driving around with snow-covered cars. Of course, the snow often becomes projectiles at speeds

    I was going to ask this question of folks who live in more snow-enabled regions. I was travelling on the Tacoma Narrows bridge the other day and some snow/ice came off an SUV heading in the other direction. It hit my car on the lower windshield/hood right in front of me.... scared the __ out of me. No damage but it sounded like it came through the windshield. :surprise:

    Is that the norm in other areas? Do people clean off their cars? I think some don't do it here because they want others to look at them... as I said, we don't get much snow. Nasty drive today though.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    Which is why I didn't make my 38 mile commute down I-5 to Olympia this morning. I'm not as worried about me as I am of a crazy hitting me. ;)
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Is that the norm in other areas? Do people clean off their cars?

    I live in the Chicago area and there are way to many people who don't. Sometimes they are driving with just a little area cleaned on their windshield :confuse:

    What I really hate is getting behind people who don't clean off their back bumper. You can't see their tail lights. I have also seen the driving down the street with snow covering their headlights :confuse:

    So to answer your question there are plenty of people in snowy areas that don't completely clean off their cars. I attribute it to laziness.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    I didn't have to go to work today...I'll go in tomorrow as the roads look OK in the general area, and Wednesday is boring meeting day. Thursday though they are saying might be dicey, especially at the early morning time I go in. If it's bad, it'll break my heart to stay home, really. As others mention, I too am scared of being hit by an idiot.

    I think the snow-leavers-on people here are just clueless. Not even lazy...they just don't get it.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    I can't remember the last time I saw a garage in UK that filled up for you, it must be about 20 years ago. I was in Oregon in 2000 and I was shocked, as I thought the guy was trying to attack me (I had already started to fiddle with the pump, etc, trying to get it to work...)
    Re stealing licence plates, this is a problem here, not just to steal fuel, although it is so expensive that it must be tempting, but especially to avoid speed cameras which we have by the thousand, and in London for the congestion charge etc, which is going to become worse when it develops - inevitably - into full road pricing. It is not just that people steal plates, they just get a set of fake ones made, and can drive round running up tickets everywhere. All they need is to find a car that is same model and colour, and then pay a few quid to a garage who make plates (they are bought from motor factors or garages here, not made in the local prison etc...) but if you need a new plate (they are plastic so the front one in particular is always getting cracked by stones) then you have to show your registration document but no doubt villains are willing to turn a blind eye if they are given a few pounds...
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    "on the CB "

    Are the truckers using CB's in AK? I was once advised that due to large distances between trucks, most use a short wave band. Don't doubt you, just checking. ;)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    Finally some clips of people sliding and crashing on the news. I think I liked the CRV and 4-Runner that met head-on (low speed) the most. The mangled Durango was another winner that sticks in my head. As well, a woman in a newer Malibu slowly sliding off the road as a bystandar screams "lady, don't lock up the brakes" (or something to that effect) as she heads for and slides into a parked car.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    slowly sliding off the road as a bystandar screams "lady, don't lock up the brakes"

    I saw that. She had her wheels turned to the left but her foot was on the brake. He was yelling at her to take her foot off the brake so the car would go left. Instead she slid off to the right. They had done all the work of pushing her to get her going and then she lost it.... and damaged another car besides hers. Sigh.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,714
    If someone doesn't know how to drive on ice and snow and doesn't understand the physics of a car and sliding on ice, they shouldn't drive.

    It's especially bad when the ground is relatively warm and a snowfall covers things. The underlayer melts and forms a slick icy mixture under the pressure of the tires.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,598
    Yeah, after she crashed the guy screaming at her (I think it was him) kind of threw up his hands in desperation. Pretty bad situation.

    I am very curious to see how tomorrow night pans out.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Are the truckers using CB's in AK? I was once advised that due to large distances between trucks, most use a short wave band. Don't doubt you, just checking.

    Yup, they do sometimes. They have some sort of a new radio out that a lot of them are using. We have CBs in all the trucks for running the logging roads, the one in my truck is rarely on.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Wow! Send that snow storm my way. I would love 24" of fresh snow.

    Me too!!! Me too!!! We haven't had snow in forever!! I love watching people with no snow tires try to drive on bad roads, makes for a good show.
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