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It's a lemming thing, they can't help it, they are just lousy drivers. Us superlative drivers ought not be angry with these LLC doofi, instead we should make reasonable/responsible allowance for their speed-magnet behavior. thank you!
Once I get the snow away from the gates & un-bury the cars, I can probably get out. Schools closed all over. Supposed to have gone to a funeral in Colville today, but I think it would be inconsiderate to even try!
Cheers!
Paul
Mazda truck guy finally got his rig out of the way, with 4 others helping him,and about 40 mins of spinning out.
Now there's a bus stuck at the bottom of my hill...also, there's no street parking, so that truck should give a clue that it's no fun out there. We've only maybe got 3-4", but the roads are icy - 7 and 8 mile backups on 405.
I'm not going out in my car until they at least do some sanding and/or plowing. Neither has happened yet.
Probably 8-10 cars stuck on my hill now, the newness has worn off. Traffic volumes are probably 10-20% of normal on my street, which is a good sign.
The list of school closures is nearly unanimous, and businesses are closed as well. We're having a late breakfast then gonna break out the shovel & snowblower. The Suburban has snow that drifted in to the driveway up to its door handles.
Cheers!
Paul
Your picture looks like that's the heavy, wet type of snow which can be really slick compared to 20 degree temps where it gets crunchy and gives some traction.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
For those not in the loop, we bat GW around frequently over in Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?. (or maybe I should say climate change so no one thinks GW stands for Pres. Bush
Hey Paul, went sliding yesterday. We sure could use some more; the stuff at Bogus is ghost snow with zero moisture content. Only one slide-off, and he was considerate and slid a good ten feet off the road so as not to block traffic.
The snow is actually pretty fluffy, compact and hard on the roads, but still very slick.
Here's looking down my hill just a couple minutes ago. All of these cars are stuck - none moving when I took the pic
My car is sleeping in its nice dry garage, and I think it is happy about that.
I loved sitting at home watching the snow when I didn't have to get out in it.
Is the car angled off to the right by the blue trash dumpster a slideoff? That's a steep hill from what I can tell. We're relatively flat compared to that slope. Most streets are level.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The car angled off, by a pole and blue garbage can, a grey Mazda 3, is an abandoned stuck car...it's still there, I can see it from here, now covered with a layer of snow.
A very inconsiderate move locals make in bad weather - just leaving their car in the lane of traffic (this street has no on-street parking), making it difficult for other drivers and sanding trucks, should one actually come here.
The best visual I have seen lately was a BMW parked in a RED Zone (fire hydrant) Well the fire department had a REAL fire and they smashed the windows on the BMW to run their hoses through the cabin of the BMW. (and yes the hoses leak) :shades:
I just saw an Impreza drive by with chains on all 4 wheels....odd.
While they're chatting it comes up that this guy ahd clean up duty from huge storms previously. Told of operating a front end loader whose job was basically to fill big dump trucks full of snow so it could be gotten out of the city to go melt. In one dig he picks up not only a lot of snow but an entire Datsun. It ended up out wherever they dumped the snow.
Amazingly, my brother's car turned up safe and sound a week later on some impound lot where they towed everybody and was no worse for the wear.
Anyway back on topic, we will be getting a pretty bad storm this evening in a few hours, supposed to last to tomorrow afternoon. I will be heading into work regardless. The terrain is very flat with no real hills and I have a route that is relatively untraveled that I can take. If I take it slow and easy I should be ok.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Slide offs galore here in town today. Abandoned cars in the middle of off-ramps, buses stuck on the flats, etc. Got the Suburban un-buried (drifts up to the door handles) & out of the driveway... Subies would still get high-centered. Maybe thaw them out & get 'em rolling tomorrow.
Cheers!
Paul
Yesterday I pulled into the local Megafood parking lot and stopped behind a fellow who seemed to be ceding the ROW to people in the crosswalk. But he stayed put in his Audi after they crossed, and it turned out he was waiting for a woman who was verrrry slloowly making her way out of the store, across the car lanes and into the waiting Audi. Okay, fine.
She got into the car and dithered a bit, and the car stayed put, now with half a dozen more lining up behind me. So we'd arrived at a point where both people were in the Audi, neither was moving and neither was the car -- So I beeped (once. short.) The driver looked in the mirror and seemed startled to see cars lined up behind him. Like whooda thunk?!?
So he pulled out into the driving lane, crossed the dividing line ... and STOPPED!! looking at me in the mirror and shrugging his shoulders.
He didn't notice that he had pulled sufficiently forward to allow me room to simply turn right, zip up a crossing lane and whip into a spot a bit down the lot near a door. When I did this, I noticed him taking off. Didn't think anything of it until after parking my car, I noticed the Audi turning around, then racing back and parking in in the fire lane in front of the door I was planning to enter.
This should be interesting, I thought. If this buffoon looks like he's getting out of his car with confrontational intent, I'm slamming his door on his head. Maybe more than once.
As I approached, he glowered, I glowered back, and he took off.
My daughter and I are convinced that there is a nuthouse nearby whose residents have drivers licenses and come out to randomly clog up the roadways just prior to storms.
They don't have to come from a "nut house" to be lousy drivers and discourteous drivers as fintail was talking about. Here is Ca, er, Disneyland, we have all of the above and loads of more drivers who do not have a clue about safety and/or courtesy.
I remember driving in snow up near Tahoe, when two drivers locked up in snow, and did about three 360 degree turns before hitting a snow bank. My wife and I just stopped along the road until they stopped their acrobatics and then as they stay stuck, we slowly drove by with our chains on, and got home safely.
I hope all of our friends in the snowy areas of the mid west and it seems every place except in Bay Area, please be careful of the others.i.e. "those drivers".....
Good luck to all and I hope all have a peaceful and safe Christmas season.
jensad
Municipalities are very inexperienced at maintaining roads and do a half-baked job. However, tonight my fair city is doing a lot more than they did when we got the Tuursday dumping. I saw barely sand or plowing of some major roads until today.
Local drivers are idiots. They either go 2mph or 50mph when the flow is 25mph. They brake for icy hills, brake for ice patches, brake in turns, brake all the time.
An E55 is not the best snow car....but I had no issues until idiots would stop in front of me, or I would have to slow and then tackle a hill. Now it's staying in the garage for at least the next three days.
In our 170-mile round trip to the ski hill yesterday, saw 2 items of note: 1 slideoff occurred before our very eyes, fortunately in the opposite direction - CRV went sideways before backing into the snow in the median. Then a semi went haulin' a&& past us on the way home on compact snow & ice - long as he got far enought ahead of me before he lost it, well, OK then
We're going to have to dig out of yet another dump today & tomorrow... bad timing for the snowblower to break!
Cheers!
Paul
Yesterday I saw a late model A4 in a ditch - window down, which seemed odd as it was snowing. We got a few inches of snow and about a quarter inch of freezing rain last night, now it is snowing again. The plow has been on my hill a couple times today, and I think they de-iced it too...I can see a little pavement.
View from my office window yesterday...something inconsiderate must have happened here...road at the top is I-90
jensad
At one point a van came up behind me, moved over to the left to pass then just sat there for a minute before moving back into the right lane and kept pace with me (my speed remained constant). As he was following me I happened to come up on someone and moved to pass, but since there was traffic coming up behind me and I was barely going faster than the car I was passing I speed up to make a faster pass and left the van well behind. Well the van did the same thing, came up behind me, moved over as if to pass, matched my speed then moved over to the right lane and paced me. :confuse:
As I was approaching my exit the road not only was now just wet it was actually starting to dry out. But eyeing the exit/entrance ramps I noticed that they were still pretty crappy. So as I approached my exit which had a pretty nice turn on it as it exited and the crossed over the interstate I slowed down long before the exit because I suspected it was slippery. Well it was slippery and as I was slowly approaching the exit a Porsche SUV shot pass me got on the exit ramp took that turn and slid right off the road and down an embankment. I stopped to check on the guy, he was ok, and called the state police and went on my way.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My compliments to you for your assistance to that Porsche driver. Not many people would have stopped and check the driver to make sure that driver was ok and then calling the authorities.
Its nice to read good stories of people that care enough to help others. I did not see it much but I always made it a point to compliment the person(s) that helps us at t/c scenes.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
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Just be glad you are not in CA ! The CA Supreme Court has green lighted (set precedence for) increased lawsuits against so called "Good Samaritan Acts".
Fortunately or unfortunately for automotive related issues: as goes CA so goes the other 49 states.
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And it wasn't like the car was on fire or anything.
CHILLING comes to mind.
ANYBODY contemplating such actions should really check with their CAR insurance companies and other liability policies; as they are the usual suspects, if you are sued for automotive "Good Sam" actions. Good Sam might turn out to be the likes of New Yorkers in apartment houses hearing seeing and witnessing someone getting slaughtered and doing the three monkeys imitations: hear see speak (no evil) NADA.
Bottom line is you can NOT get sued for doing NADA. As those New Yorkers can tell you.
The case goes back to the trial court for further proceedings.
"If it's not an emergency that requires quick thinking to avoid serious injury," Perrochet said, "then one should apply the regular rule that if you offer aid you'd better be doing it non-negligently."
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I think this case is going to get bent out of shape about as bad as the McDonald's coffee one did.
The way I read the legal blog is that unless one is a professional ( ER doctor going to work @ the time one come up on incident, paramedic, etc) and have legal advice and financial liability coverage and updated training for that particular proceedure, proper tools and equipment, logistical back up.... and, and, and...... one direly risks financial health and welfare ! Forewarned is truly fore armed. One's insurance company MIGHT not take too kindly paying for one's "good deeds".
Good blurb at Wiki Answers. In the California case, I think the reckless part is the issue.
Stop to check, but keep an alert and watchful eye that some other Bozo doesn't take the turn to fast, slide off the road and run you over. I've seen it happen before... on t.v.
What may be interesting is will the judge charge the jury as to what is "recklessness" within the scope of the samartian's duty of due care as a "reasonable and prudent" helper at accident scenes? This may start the maze of appeals and SC of Cal future decisions. As my British friend used to say, " a sticky wicket".
I remember an insane man ran across the IS 80 freeway and got his leg knocked off at about midnight. He said later he was trying to commit suicide.
I observed a RN, in full white uniform (and hat) who was going to work at a hospital in Oakland, who stopped to aid him. Indeed she kept him alive.
She stopped the bleeding and was holding him with her body and arms, while they both sat in the center divider of IS 80. I stopped and assisted. When the ambulance arrived we loaded him into the ambulance and I picked up his severed leg, placed it in the ambulance, and at the hospital they put it back on and he walked again.
Had this decision been in effect years ago, the question might be, was the RN reckless in rendering assistance, or was she a reasonable and prudent off duty pofessional in saving his life? I don't know. My guess is probably not,
But this case may now rewrite the law ala by the jury in the lower court. What will happen the "good samertain" who stops but now decided not to assist out of fear of law suits? what a can of worms?
At least to me, the Host's friend the RN makes a lot of sense to me. Especially if your are not acting in a profesional situation but as a private citizen. And that is JMO, a very sad thing to see.
Please forgive my spelling as I was too busy to run a check.
Good luck to all and may the new year be peaceful for you and your loved ones.
jensad
My sister, a medical doctor, won't even look towards the patient for fear of a lawsuit. Just the very act of evaluating a patient could expose you to a lawsuit if you are a medical professional.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Does her medical mal practice insurance cover her "errors and ommissions" ?
Is there any liability for her picking and choosing?
How would they know? Unless my sister announces herself as a doctor they wouldn't know.
Does her medical mal practice insurance cover her "errors and ommissions" ?
Not sure what her insurance covers but I know the cost is in the 6 figures. I know that some parts of this country it is almost impossible to get malpractice insurance in certain fields.
Is there any liability for her picking and choosing?
Can't say, but it is something that is necessary in a world where people will sue at a drop of a hat, and plenty hats drop these days.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I know that if you are a qualified doctor or nurse then it is reckoned they have a liability if they do something wrong, even when off duty, though most medico's here are employed by the national health service so I would imagine basically they are covered by the insurance arrangements for that.
When I was run over in the street years ago, a passing old lady, who turned out to have been a St.John's Ambulance Volunteer in WW2, stopped to help until the ambulance showed up - I wasn't critically injured, but she was brilliant and certainly helped me....Mind you, I suppose I would feel differently if she had broken my neck or something !
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D