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You're absolutely right.
They will never be issued a ticket.
I just checked with a state trooper. You are right, I'm not being sarcastic - you really are right..... It is to the interpretation of the motorist as to their particular position in the lane as to their capabilities and judgment in making the left turn. Different vehicles and different levels of driver expertise, road conditions, weather (icy roads) and oncoming vehicles.
Congratulations.
HOWEVER... (oh, c' mon, you KNEW there was a catch) if the left-turner makes obscene gestures, blares the horn (definitive forms of road rage) and generally demonstrates PREMEDITATED planning of obstructing the thoroughfare?????
Yes, it's that bad on the Trail. Maybe someday in the great beyond they'll run into Hitler and have a good laugh.
Wow. Yeah, that's pretty bad. I come across people like that on a more regular basis than I would prefer, and really the only thing you can do is shrug it off and recognize that it is their problem - one they are trying to push off onto you.
As far as law enforcement goes, though, unless the actions could be cited based on law, I think the only thing an officer could really do is stop the driver to, uh, have a little conversation.
It is tough not to be offended by such blatant actions. At least, I think it is. :mad:
A friend of mind calls them "Nutmobiles" because a lot of their drivers are "Nuts" (the way they drive).
I am sure it wasn't his first pull over or anything, either.
Apparently you have never seen one of our bats.
Anyway my take on those cars is that they appeal to the farb tuners who think that changing the air filter, putting on a fart can and lowering the suspension would put their 150 HP econoboxes in the same league as Corvettes.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Failure to signal because you know it will allow the other traffic allowance to get by or in front of you and then, throwing a hissy-fit because another driver is on to your little game, well, I didn't know they gave eight-year-olds drivers licenses......
Yes, the Susquehannah Trail, Shrewsbury area, once again........
I believe it was Gallagher
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Calif woman gets 6 years for fatal texting crash
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I am pretty sure Corollas attract the most timid oblivious drivers too. I've seen some scary stuff in the past few days.
Also have seen a couple WA plated vehicles not observing the asinine Vancouver policy of not having left turn lanes into major arterials, and creating lines and horn honks in the process.
They don't in Idaho - cyclists have their own road laws here. Idaho's bike laws are the envy of cyclists throughout the country. And our law may be adopted in many other places.
The Bike Issue: Don't stop (San Fran Bay Guardian)
Although the idea of treating a red light like a stop sign at a clear intersection is something that needs to be implemented to motor vehicles. Something, anything, to compensate for the perpetual inability of wasteful irresponsible public sector transportation planners to synchronize traffic flow. Once you're a tenured public servant, I guess you can stop trying. It's not like you can be punished.
I've advocated rolling stops for cars at stop signs too - save a lot of gas. And bring on the roundabouts.
Roundabouts are cool, but the braying masses must be educated about them...I lived in an area that received a roundabout, one that instantly solved 3 block long backups at peak traffic times. Some locals were livid at the idea.
Gee cyclists want to be able to share the right to use roads but not the responsibility.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
They have that, its called a yield sign.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Driving today requires effort and concentration, and common sense.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
I'm thinking it's probably cheaper to change the law and leave the stop signs up. People are already trained to slowly roll through stop signs and blast through yield signs.
Or just take the signs down period. It would cost a lot to replace all those signs with yield signs.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Sure you have; they're red with 8 sides.
More often than not, whenever I see them on some rural roads on Spring/Summer weekends, they are riding 2, 3 ,4, etc abreast, blowing through stop signs, and generally giving the impression that they own the road and we motorists are intruding. At any given time in the year other than extreme cold, snow, ice, a motorist might encounter a bicyclist riding on a busy road at night with no or inadequate reflectors/lighting.
Bicyclists 16 and over should have to get a bicyclist license from the State DOT to ride on a public street/road. License would require passing a State DOT exam. Also, bicycles used on public streets/roads should have a State DOT issued license plate with a yearly fee.
When the bridge over the Montlake Cut raises, traffic backs up, but the bikers weave their way to the front of the lanes and proudly crowd in next to the gate.
When the lead car blows a horn in protest, the biker gives the one finger wave.
No wonder Seattle drivers show no sympathy to them. :P
Here in Illinois it is illegal for bicyclists to ride more than two abreast on a road.
I personally don't have an issue with bikes on roads as long as they obey the rules of the road and are courteous.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
In '05 bikes outsold cars and trucks combined, and that was thanks to Lance - now it's the gas bubble. RUG hit $1.95 here today. Bicycles Selling Like Hotcakes in US Stores (solutions-site.org)
The officer had given a bicycle rider a ticket for driving his bike thru FIVE red lights in downtown Oakland. The scofflaw testified that he did indeed pedal through all of the red lights and then he said, "but your honor, if I get convicted, that citation will go againt my auto driver's license and be put on my record".
Needless to say, knowing the judge pretty well, I predicted to the officer I was breaking in, that the judge woudl throw the book at him, and sure enough he did.
The judge told the defendant that he should have gotten five tickets instead of just one. Since the defendant had s bad driving record, (maybe the reason he was on a bike) the judge suspended his license and fined him the max. $$
Crazy times and crazy world but I see the bicyclists are still doing their thing.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
So a small thing, I can not even count the number of times I have had a bike (illegally) coming at me in the wrong direction either with or without a bike lane, while I am driving a car. Through the CA state perverse interpretation of the laws, I am sure the law makes you pay for their injuries should they get wacked doing these types of illegal things, even if it is their fault.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I am in the far right and the sheriff pulls out into the left lane just as I am about even with him and speeds up the limitish. I was also going the limitish which was 45. I was probably doing 50ish. Not really a big deal as it was the speed traffic was going. Immediately after he pulled onto the road, I notice a Jeep ahead of me in my lane. And then all of a sudden I was eating the Jeep's bumper. I practically had to slam my brakes to keep from hitting him. He was going 30ish and closer to the 30. As I slowed down to keep from hitting him, the sheriff beside and a little in front of my also slowed down and we traded places. He pulled behind the Jeep and flipped on his lights. The sheriff had obviously watched the whole thing happen and decided that the Jeep must be going slow enough as to imped traffic. Not that the Jeep was doing anything particularly wrong, but he was going VERY slow and if he was going to go that slow, he should at least had his flashers on or something to indicate he was going way below the posted limit and the flow of traffic.
So it could have been that the sheriff was already after the jeep and I just happened to be there in the way. :surprise:
Once I got into the turn lane, I really wasn't paying much attention to what was going out on the main road. The light was red, and everybody was stopping for it. Well, suddenly this light pink '06 or newer Impala jerked into my turn lane in front of m. I heard a horn blaring, up ahead, but couldn't identify what car it was. Then, the Impala jerked back out of my turn lane, across the left-most thru lane, and nearly smacked a car in the middle lane! Then it cut back to the left lane, and got right up on that Navigator that had passed me. Then this woman got out, who looked somewhat like the character Joy from "My Name is Earl" went up to the Navigator and started shouting and going off with a bunch of hand gestures.
Then she gets back in her car, puts it back into drive, and moves forward, bumping into the Navigator! I finally got my green arrow so I went ahead, but I did look over, to see Joy still shouting and gesturing from inside her Impala, its nose rubbing the Navigator's rear bumper. Inside the Navigator was an older couple, who looked like they were just trying to ignore it all. I felt bad for them.
And I still have no idea what happened to set this woman off. Only thing I can think of is maybe at some point the Navigator cut her off and she went off?
Considering the number of Korean & VN vets out there, the rash of gunnings all over the country, most seniors are capable of defending themselves with their firepower experiences.
Oh that would've been a hoot, seeing a senior citizen pull a gun on this chick! I think I would have paid money to see that!
And I wanna know where the hell you get a pink Impala from? :confuse: I've seen a few Mary Kay cars around, but nowadays the pink on them is so light, it just looks like off-white with a slight hint of rose...actually pretty tasteful. This thing was just gaudy.
Maybe that pink is a custom (Maaco or lower) job.
Can you say battery?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
:P
That woman sounds similar to the woman driving in LA yesterday, with at least three CHP cares behind, around and in front of her. She stopped her car as they are coming up on her, flipped them off, as her car was slowly moving, got back in and finally corralled with CHP on four sides. It was on tv and I thought it was funny but not the folks on that road.
Reading about the guy that seemingly went crazy with andre1969 reminded me of the situation in LA. Glad no one got hurt or killed like the unfortunate accident that killed the baseball player.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
PS "always stock with Glock or Colt." but not in a car - the darn thng might go off.
I also got behind a couple of older women in a Legacy wagon who were the most timid things I have ever seen,...merging onto a highway at 38mph and they braked at the end of the ramp. They were holding up about 10 cars by this point.
If I carried a firearm in my car I would be in jail no doubt :shades: