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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    PNW politeness, maybe. People don't honk much here, they see it as some kind of major faux-pas. I guess I make up for it. Three second rule for me. There were 2 cars behind the RX - neither honked or went around. Albeit they were at a long light, maybe they knew they'd make it.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Bellevue batchelor: " Come on Grandma, move this crate. I've been honking for 3 minutes."

    Bellevue grandma: "Tell you what Sunny, I'll go back and honk your horn while you try to start this machine." :P
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Nah, I'd have just gone around by then.

    Funny thing though, it's rarely an oldster than I honk at. Slow old people don't get that treatment from me - as I can usually just go around. It's the younger and distracted/oblivious who get to hear the loud German horn :shades:
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    edited December 2012
    I've made it my duty to honk at driver errors on the roadway as well. Sometimes I feel as if the drivers are so oblivious to their unacceptable driving skills that they don't realize why they are getting honked at.

    Hopefully, with more driver's out there like you and I, they will be honked at often enough that they start to realize they are pathetic, and either take steps to improve, or hire a Chauffeur.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Whitehurst Freeway is curvy when you turn on from K street but MAN people do *not* know how to stay in their lane!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited December 2012
    Sadly, they will likely just think you are crazy, and probably get mad and honk back or more.

    I like to sneak up and honk when I see someone yapping on a phone. Also if I think they are going to wander into my lane - honk. It happens a bit here, where so many cars drive like they have no alignment and just wander around (mostly) in their lanes.

    I know some self-righteous unfireable LEO types disagree with horn use, but seeing how well they patrol the roads, that might say something.

    The curve thing ateixeira is a problem here, too. I try to not have another car alongside me if the road has a sharp turn, especially after a light. The NE 8th/116th intersection in Bellevue with 2 turn lanes is a perfect example. Morons can't stay in their lane.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Morons can't stay in their lane.

    With so much rain falling, it is difficult to maintain your sea worthy position during an incoming tide so you drift a little. ;)

    (DUI patrols tonight all over the state.)
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    edited December 2012
    I like to sneak up and honk when I see someone yapping on a phone. Also if I think they are going to wander into my lane - honk.

    fintail. You have a lot of energy and good thoughts. I would support you if you initiated a national campaign about stupid drivers, texting, LLC, cell phone use, etc.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Especially if you are a 4'8" woman driving an Escalade around a tight corner - I guess the marine transportation styling of those barges gets the best of them.

    DUI patrols - the kind of thing LEOs should be working on.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    If only it was that easy. Hell, local LEOs had a fairly loud campaign when phone use while driving became illegal in this state. But it didn't last long, and enforcement seems to be rare and random. The enforcement is what counts, unless the task of driving can actually be viewed as serious (as it is in some places where texting or yapping while driving isn't just illegal, but a social faux pas).
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Today a lady in a Volvo saw me in a merge lane, and MADE ROOM AND LET ME IN! OMG alert the media!

    Then again maybe she was on drugs or something. ;)
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    No drugs - it was the Christmas Spirit in action. :):)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    edited December 2012
    >Volvo saw me in a merge lane, and MADE ROOM AND LET ME IN!

    I often give assists to other drivers , but only if they drive one of the car brands that I like.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    I won't assist a driver exhibiting signs of incompetence on the roadways, no matter what they are driving.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Obviously it wasn't andres3 that let you merge in. :shades:
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Old annoyance popped up again today, slow turners. Saw multiple "drivers" exiting 35-40mph roads onto side streets and turning the corner at about 5mph. Seriously. If those g-forces are too much, you shouldn't be on the road.

    Lots of phone addicts out there, too. Saw a woman in a late model C coupe texting while "driving", immediately followed by a typical suit in a newer TL texting while "driving". No enforcement for this anywhere, of course.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    I've observed assisting others happens when both drivers are members of a same organization i.e. lodge, church, or other service organizations.
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla Member Posts: 707
    I think your slow turners have colonized my neck of the woods.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Old annoyance popped up again today, slow turners. Saw multiple "drivers" exiting 35-40mph roads onto side streets and turning the corner at about 5mph.

    I see that and sometimes these folks will swing left toward the center of the road before starting to make their slooow right turn.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    In contrast to drivers turning very slowly onto side streets, side roads, there are those who just can't wait to turn and start early. These are the drivers who are in opposing traffic wanting to make their left turn as you approach the intersection. They have their front wheels already cocked to turn as you approach the intersection and begin slowly making their turn just as you reach the intersection. They are so impatient that they cannot wait until you pass/clear them. This is especially a dangerous practice on rural 2 lane highways with posted 55 MPH.
  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    Sure brings the idiots out in force...

    Won't do more than 60mph while passing slower traffic, then stay in the left lane and speed up to 75 when the right lane clears.

    If they're not slowing down to 60 to pass traffic, they're slowing to 45 to climb a hill.

    They won't get up to more than 45, even on the straight part of the on-ramp when they know traffic on the road is moving at 65-70.

    Stop-and-go past a single spinner that was stopped in the median, with a Traffic Control unit on the left shoulder, completely out of the lane. Even in the left lane, accounting for the rain, I could understand 35mph. Damn rubberneckers.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2021 VW TIguan SE 4Motion
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I see that wide turn thing too. Is a Corolla suddenly as hard to turn as a semi? For the lowest common denominator, maybe.

    I love when I am waiting to turn left, and the oncoming car actually slows. I don't know if it is subconscious ineptitude or random jerkiness. I'll start turning early then, just to wake them up.

    Regarding rain - here after a wonderfully dry summer, it has been ranining steadily for almost 2 months. The already underposted limits are now seen as insane by the slow turning phone yapping masses, and it's often hard to get within 5mph.
  • billy3554billy3554 Member Posts: 148
    Mostly likely it is defensive driving. Most of us can probably recount one or two instances where a person waiting to turn left did not actually wait. Doubtful an attempt to annoy the other driver by pretending to go will actually "wake" anyone up, more likely it will cause them to go slower just to tick you off.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I guess I like to assume they realize that my slowing for them to pass by, and signaling etc means that I see them. But they probably don't see that I have slowed, don't see the signal, etc. Hard to do that while you are on the phone, eating, discussing with passenger, freaking out about going 35 in a 35, etc.

    Local "drivers" usually lack the wherewithal to actually fight fire with fire :shades:
  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    One I forgot about when I was posting this morning...
    4Runner puts on the right turn signal, then moves into the left turn lane, and makes a left. Guess I should be thankful that they didn't end up turning right after all. ;)

    And another when I went out to get lunch...
    Pontiac Grand Prix in front of me taking a posted 50 mph off-ramp, slows quickly to 40mph before the curve... then brake checks me, not so much because of the rain but because he's too busy with the cell phone in one hand to steer the car well.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2021 VW TIguan SE 4Motion
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited December 2012
    Don't you hate it when there is a merge lane and they just turn and stop and the beginning of a long ramp?

    We need to put this lady together with the courteous lady who made room yesterday.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,686
    Hahaha; the wrong-way signal users are classic. They always remind me of the "old days" when it wasn't uncommon for the auto-return feature of signal stocks to fail, forcing the driver to manually return the signal arm to neutral.

    This morning I had a similar driver in front of me. We were both in a right lane that sweeps to the right in a merge onto another road. Now, the whole lane sweeps, mind you, so there's no need for a signal at all... just follow the lane! But, no, this driver turns on the right signal to sweep through, then, when on the other road, leaves the right signal on while changing to the left lane, then changing to the left turn lane... then turning left! Cracked me up (in a "some people are just hopeless" sort of way).

    Last night there was a driver in a little old Nissan sedan in front of me (by about ten car lengths or more) on a merge lane that links up to a local "expressway" - 55 mph limit. There's a light-controlled intersection on this road about an eighth of a mile from the end of the merge lane. So I am accelerating down the ramp as this driver merges. He's driving along in the right lane, about a steady 40 mph. I'm at 55 by the time I hit the end of the ramp, so I signal to change into the left lane. I change lanes and am about 20' off this guy's bumper when he decides its a prime time to switch lanes. He comes over, signalling as his car is about halfway into my lane.

    I hit the brakes, dodged right, and blew past him as I resumed speed in the left lane. A few moments later, oh, surprise, he decided on a last minute stop at the McDonald's off the left side of the expressway. The annoying part was that his impeding caused me to miss the light, burning another 90 seconds of my life. I'm just not sure why it was so critical to enter the left lane just when he did so, when his low speed would have allowed him to make that lane change up to 10+ seconds later without any problems at all. :confuse:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2012
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    No lights cars tonight - rental 200, Lexus RX, prev-gen Sienna, late model Toyota truck. I tried to motion to the truck driver that his lights weren't on - didn't even turn his head (I was on foot). He probably thought I was insane. Oh well.

    On the way home, I got behind a SRX that floored it off the line and cut in front of a line of merging cars, then slowed down, signaled in an exit only lane, crawled at under the yellow sign, then hit the gas, changed lanes, slowed down, changed lanes back, got up to the speed of traffic, then changed lanes again (no lane changes with signals). Drunk?
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    No lights cars tonight - rental 200, Lexus RX, prev-gen Sienna, late model Toyota truck. I tried to motion to the truck driver that his lights weren't on - didn't even turn his head (I was on foot). He probably thought I was insane. Oh well.

    Same. Encountered a number of drivers shortly after sunset in a very overcast day in a rural area that did not have headlights on. Flashed them, looked in mirror and most did put on their lights. What is with these people, these dopes. "Inconsiderate" is to polite a term. Should be "dopes",
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I was out a good 45+ mins after sunset, too. Overcast as usual. Really not much excuse. I usually flash them - more often than not don't get a response. Maybe I am expecting too much - as I drive with lights on every time I drive, turning mine on is like a reflex. For others, not as likely.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Last night, got behind a Corolla that was going 30 in a 35, then went downhill, would ride the brakes and not even get to 30. Cars starting to line up by then. You just know you'll see dumb stuff sometimes just by the model of car. Cars for people who hate cars.

    Also saw a granny in a Fit, no lights - and she was actually driving well above the limit. Crazy.
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    [quote]You just know you'll see dumb stuff sometimes just by the model of car. Cars for people who hate cars. [/quote]

    And also car models that almost guarantee an elderly driver. I followed a late 80s Chrysler New Yorker last night down the road yesterday, going 35 in a 45 MPH zone. I knew it had to be an elderly driver, so I tried to stay patient. It was difficult.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    Friday I was driving to a county I frequently have to visit for my job. The route is composed of quiet two lane roads that usually have little to no traffic on them. It's a rural area and when I do encounter traffic it is usually the occasional pickup truck- usually being competently driven at or a bit above the 55 mph speed limit. Friday I came upon three pickups in a row, the lead vehicle being a dilapidated Ranger being driven at 40 mph. The road had no real passing zones so the two other trucks and myself were forced to follow the moron for several miles. There is a somewhat circuitous downhill section and I usually put the Mazdaspeed in fifth and coast down with no drama- this day I was in third and I still had to use the brakes. At the bottom of the hill the two other trucks turned off and I was finally able to pass the imbecile.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    At what age will you volunteer to retire from driving and/or how do you intend to not become elderly? ;)
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    At what age will you volunteer to retire from driving and/or how do you intend to not become elderly?

    Commit suicide at 65? :P ;) Good 65th birthday present that'll be.
    Might keep social security alive for the next generation too! :sick:

    I do find, I am nicer, more lenient, and more patient with Audi drivers. I find most Audi drivers drive competently or better, while Toyota drivers tend to encounter frequent episodes of self inflicted SUA.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    There are definitely certain cars that when you see them driven at certain speeds, you can make an educated guess as to who is behind the wheel.

    About the elderly...if I make it to 70, I'd certainly like an objective skills assessment by then. Many older driver seem to cope just fine, but some are pretty scary.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Funny, I am not any nicer to MB drivers, unless it is an older model. Typical exec blowhard or trophy wife in a 100K new model doesn't give me sympathy. But, I respect a clean old car more than a new one.

    Certain Toyota models do seem to attract the slow and/or oblivious.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    I hate drivers that change lanes, and seemingly for no reason other than to impede those behind them. I've seen it done; they change lanes, forcing me to slow down or collide with them, and then don't speed up any faster than the car to the right.......... :sick:
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    LOL to see an Ambulance making a last second illegal lane change across a solid line and cut someone off.

    At least if they had hit them, the person could get CPR on the spot. How convenient.
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2012
    "At what age will you volunteer to retire from driving and/or how do you intend to not become elderly?"
    .

    I have every intention of becoming elderly, and will also likely become slower and more cautious as I age (further). That's why I do my best to be patient behind other drivers, who may have physical, mental or vehicular limitations of which I am unaware.
    .

    Having said that, driving 10MPH below the speed limit in the daytime on a dry road - with no passing zones - is annoying.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    More reason to mount a gopro or something on the dash. Will make the lawsuit easier, and a good collection of videos can make money on Youtube.

    This morning saw a Yukon almost hit an old R107 SL - the behemoth lumbered into a turn lane without a signal, then decided it wanted back in the straight lane, but the MB was beside it. I heard the loud old MB horn very clearly.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,686
    Just yesterday an ambulance driver decided he didn't want to wait for a dedicated green turn arrow (this intersection has dedicated arrows, so no discretionary turning on a general green) when the light changed from green before he made the intersection. So, he enters the intersection as the light turned green for oncoming traffic (which is where I was located). We all started to go when the light turned green, then had to stop to wait for the ambulance to pass in front of us.

    It's a good thing both oncoming lanes had stopped traffic, as that is a 55mph road.

    At least if they had hit them, the person could get CPR on the spot.

    The problem with that is the EMTs would likely be the ones needing the CPR! :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Because you'd be choking him? ;)

    I realize visibility is a challenge on some bigger vehicles but this was clearly a case of "don't care, I'm bigger".
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited December 2012
    Went to Costco today, which is always fun. No actual issues in the parking lot as I parked way out in the sticks, but when leaving got behind an A6 merging at 48mph, saw a freshly plated Bentley sedan going about 5-10 under in the second leftmost lane of a 4 lane in each direction interstate (same speed as far right lane), then a slow moving rental Tuscon going half the limit and changing lanes with no signal - "driver" had phone to his ear (I honked in an attempt to disrupt his call), then had an overloaded junk hauling truck pull in front of me from a side street onto a major 4 late arterial, I was in the left lane, he went directly for the left lane,no signal, 5 under, then a Focus turned right onto an alley, almost stopped while blocking a major arterial. This is a great place for driving :sick:
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    At least if they had hit them, the person could get CPR on the spot. How convenient.

    My brother used to drive ambulances at times as a firefighter/EMT. There was an accident one time with an old lady that apparently couldn't see nor hear (low licensing standards) but was driving anyway, so they collided hard and she was in a teeny tiny vehicle.

    Yes, she got treated right away (minor injuries only), but the person they were going code 3 for got cheated at least a few minutes of waiting time on their emergency call.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    saw a freshly plated Bentley sedan going about 5-10 under in the second leftmost lane of a 4 lane in each direction interstate (same speed as far right lane)

    In there defense, maybe they had under 1,000 miles and read in the manual that it's a good idea to keep it 65 MPH and under while breaking in the engine????

    Likely??? NOT!!! ;)

    I remember I had to speed up my A3 during the test drive momentarily to like 80 because there were no openings to merge right towards a freeway exit unless I did so (without missing my exit).
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    You just know you'll see dumb stuff sometimes just by the model of car. Cars for people who hate cars.

    There is no type of vehicle that is as predictable for stupid behavior and blocking traffic as are most drivers of compact pickup trucks. Encounter these people daily. What is it with those who buy these things and then block traffic.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Funny, I am not any nicer to MB drivers, unless it is an older model. Typical exec blowhard or trophy wife in a 100K new model doesn't give me sympathy.

    Don't keep a log, but it seems that most MB drivers are either senior ladies, blue or gray hair, or older seasoned guys.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Pretty sure that isn't it. Young woman was driving...I'd wager she was just terrified driving that thing, and didn't pay attention to her lane positioning. I remember ages ago when I had some engine work done on the old car, and I kept speeds below 65 for awhile - I just kept to the right lane. Fun thing about western WA highways is that going 55 in a 60 will have you being far from the slowest car.
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