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  • pat84pat84 Member Posts: 817
    Most States do not allow triple trailers. But, I have seen them even in States that restrict them. I have seen shorter UPS triple trailers that were not nearly unstable as those full size trailers

     I know that you are talking about. I think the more empty ones bounce around worse than the full ones. Some seem to be much worse than others at least. I've seen the full size triple trailers in Nevada and I think in CA, too, but am not certain of it.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    that I've seen a triple trailer from time to time in MD. And I KNOW they can't be legal here! Maybe occasionally, if they're just doing a short run, they might try to sneak one out on the roads and see if they can get away with it?
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Perhaps I should have said I saw the triple trailers on the INTERSTATE (FED) that happens to be in WA and ORE states. I am not really conversant in interstate transportation rules and regulations anymore.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >We did see about 8 trucks pulled over and being written us at various places. The only thing I can think that they got them for was getting out of that right lane.

     

    Sometimes there are crackdowns when there have been a spate of truck accidents in our area of I70/I75. I believe Indiana recently raised their truck speed limit to 65 from 60. The truckers' behavior might have been related to the change. I believe there were problems with truckers driving in roadblocks in protest of the dual speed limits as the legislation was being considered. That might have been a related factor.

     

    The worst I've seen in being tailgated was in Kentucky I65 between Bowling Green and Nashville (TN). A dual FedEx Ground truck tailgated me at 75 approx. I couldn't go any faster because there were a couple of other semis ahead of me going...75. I called in his info to FedEx. Never heard a word from them. That's a part of the problem with having a 65 or 70 speed limit for trucks just like cars have. They intend to go 5-10 over. AND they become dangerous tailgaters to get their way.

     

    Being tailgated by 50K pounds is a lot different than a 5K lb SUV.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    And just think the truck speed limit in AZ is 75 mph ! :)
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Sorry if this is more than slightly OT, but my brother is going to the UK soon with his band, they're renting a manual transmission car (because supposedly it's less than half the cost of an automatic, wish the rentals would do that here). Anywho, he's wondering two things:

     

    a. are the pedals set up the same way as on U.S. cars (gas right, clutch left), or is it reversed?

     

    b. is the shift pattern the same as on U.S. cars, or is that also in the reverse?

     

    Any shared knowledge on either question would be greatly appreciated!
  • vchengvcheng Member Posts: 1,284
    The foot pedals are set the same way i.e. the clutch on the left, the brake in the middle and the accelerator on the right of the footwell. The gear shift pattern is the same for the vast majority of cars. If there is any difference, it is the reverse gear usually, with the rest of the forward gears oriented in the same way i.e. the 1-2 shift is towards the left, then the 3-4 shift and the 5 (-6 if so equipped) on the right towards the driver's side.

     

    Be careful on the highways, called motorways, where lane discipline is observed. Also, read up on drving through roundabouts, (our traffic rotaries) which are everywhere, including little ones and huge ones.
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    "The otherway to look at it is the left (passing) lane has become the defacto "SLOW LANE". The best is not to tail gate: pass on the right, left, inside, outside, "someones other left,right" etc. It is really not worth the chances you might take and angst and possible confrontation to look for folks to keep right except to pass."

     

    I constantly encounter this phenomenon and it absolutely boggles my mind. On your average three lane highway there will be a slow moving pack of vehicles taking up the left and middle lanes and a nearly empty right lane. So those who want to actually pass must do so in the right lane, except every now and again you will encounter one of the few people who tried to do the right thing and stay in the far right lane since they wanted to go no faster than the speed limit. So now you have to change into the middle lane to pass, then get back into the right lane to continue passing slower vehicles. OF course, at this point the drivers of the slow moving vehicles in the far left and and middle lanes who are creating the situation that forces you to drive this way see what you're doing and label you as some insane maniac weaving in and out like he owns the road, rather than stopping to think "Hmmm, why is it he was forced to pass slower traffic using what is supposed to be the cruising lane? Could it have anything to do with me?".
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    ..."except every now and again you will encounter one of the few people who tried to do the right thing and stay in the far right lane since they wanted to go no faster than the speed limit."...

     

    Goodness gracious, I am glad there are relatively few of these scofflaws !! :)
  • gambit293gambit293 Member Posts: 406
    Driving up 71 in Ohio, I came up on an older Camry (at least two gen old). My cruising speed was approximately 71-73 mph. This guy's "cruise" speed was 64-78 mph. So inevitably we are passing each other every three minutes. I hate that! I like to either pass someone or be passed by them, and then never see them again (unless it's a really nice car like a Ferrari).

     

    After we passed each other about five times, I began to try to lose him. I still don't know whether he was intentionally following me, but for WHATEVER reason, I could not lose this guy. No matter what, something always happened and he always ended up behind me or next to me. I would put some distance between us, only to get stuck behind two cars, and then he'd catch up. I'd slow down, he'd pass me, but either slow down or get stuck behind someone else.

     

    It was annoying me so much that I actually was hoping to run into a Left Lane Camper that I could use to block him. But it never happened. It was as if there was this invisible rope tying us together, and in the moderate traffic, no one would cut in between us.

     

    At one point, I got pretty far ahead of him, but then ran into a huge mess of cars being lead by a cop! (actually considering there was a cop in the group, it was moving very quickly - about 10 over the limit).

     

    When the cop finally left the freeway, I brought up to about 80 and finally "escaped" the camry. It's never taken me 40 miles to "lose" a car on the freeway before.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    You just crack me up! LOL

     

    I learned to drive in So.Cal in 90-91, when shooting was the current trend to deal with inconsiderate drivers.

     

    I had a guy get all nasty and violent towards me. He imagined that I cut him off. I pulled into traffic from an offramp, at a light. He wasn't even at the other side when this occurred. And he wasn't coming on fast, which is why I came out. Then he hammers it, and roars past in the turn only center lane, and proceeds to jam on his brakes to avoid the stopped traffic ahead. He gets out of his car all yelling and veins bulging. By then traffic is moving again, so I zip around him, and go on about my way.

     

    By the time he gets into his car, traffic is such that he can't persue me. I just ignored him the whole time. When he was next to me, I cranked up the 500 watts feeding 2 10 inch woofers in the hatch of my car. But I had a hand on my equalizer just in case, a Maglite, the kind that takes the 4 D cells. What an idiot. I coulda had a gun, or been a cop, or worse, followed him home and took it out on his whole family. You never know what you're gonna get.

     

    Many years ago, I was on the PA TP coming west. I was going through the 476 interchange area. There was some sort of rolling interference in the left lane. Brake lights every where. By the time I got there, 10 miles had rolled by. It was a little old lady, scared to death in a gold Cavalier(newer model.)she was hunched over the wheel, knuckles white, sweat running down her face. She was doing 50 mph! I have no idea how far she had been driving like this, or how she managed to make into the left lane with out incident. This is about the only time I ever felt sorry for a fellow driver, who was technically in the wrong. Poor girl, after that, I wondered how far she made it.

     

    Another time, I was on an interstate, 95, or one of the beltways, and I actually did the off and back on thing, to lose another car that was "attached with invisible string".
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    And Ill tie this into the discussion by mentioning poor mergers... What's with these new stop lights at the beginning of certain on-ramps to I-476? The idea behind it seems to be to lower congestion by controlling the flow of new vehicles onto the highway, but there's plenty of highways that don't have the stupid things and seem to do fine. Seems to me like congestion has more to do with what's already happening on the highway than the flow of new vehicles off the merging ramp.

     

    So the only purpose these red lights seem to accomplish is to take people who are already horrible mergers, who cannot even accelarate from 45-65 in time to enter traffic safely, and make it even harder for them to merge safely by forcing them to accelarate into complete traffic from a standstill. Unless I'm missing something it seems like fairly poor traffic engineering.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    That is absolutely insane!!! Especially on that road! I spent 2 years commuting from Lancaster Co. to the Rt. 611 exit. Uh huh, stop lights on the onramps, yep that will fix things. I bet that was thought up by some traffic engineers that don't even travel those roads. Just crazy.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    I've seen them at rare locations. I thought they were wired to sensors in the road in the right lane so that if there's a gap the light turns green for a short time.

     

    I've seen them placed for two reasons. Bad design on the ramp affecting visibility for gauging when to "go" for the car on the ramp and for high traffic areas to limit the number of cars merging because that backs up the traffic already on the expressway.

     

    The friction of the cars merging causes backups even where the additional number of cars shouldn't have an effect. I played the game of lane changes where off ramps lighten the right lane and it speeds up drastically and then slows down where the new cars are merging in.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • bryanbryan Member Posts: 198
    We have those dumba** things on the on-ramps to I-66 in Northern VA. At the bottom of the ramps, no less. So, by the time you stop for the red light, and wait for the green, you have to floor it if you hope to merge in with the traffic without causing a problem as there is not much ramp left. Commuting onto the westbound ramp from Rosslyn is particularly challenging as it is curved--cars stop short because you can't see the light is red until you are almost on it--I have had some close calls with almost being rear-ended.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    i thought th ones in VA were for practicing my drag race launches? Silly me.

     

    We have some in NJ that meter traffic into traffic circles (the ones that are left). It at least gives the traffic from the side streets a chance to get through.

     

    I agree that having them at the bottom of the ramp makes little sense, but not much about the raod system in the DC area does.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • bryanbryan Member Posts: 198
    Amen! It is especially challenging trying to merge onto I66 when you are behind someone who is already merge-challenged.

     

    I lived in NJ for a few years as a young kid when my Dad was stationed at Camden IIRC. I remember vividly the traffic circles--I always thought they were neat--until I started driving! Best traffic circle "event" I ever witnessed was when one driver missed the exit, and instead of going around the circle and getting the exit that time, the driver stopped, and backed up in the middle of the circle. My dad, already patience-challenged behind the wheel, really let some choice words fly! The look on the other driver's face was priceless--still kept backing up, even though by that time other drivers were also doing their best to verbally "assist" the circle-challenged driver!
  • carlisimocarlisimo Member Posts: 1,280
    Went down to LA and Las Vegas this weekend, and had an interesting time on the roads. Near cities, pickups continued to be frequent among LLC's, but on the 15 between those two cities, pickups tended to have the nicest drivers. Camries made up a disproportionate number of LLCs on that road.

     

    I always expected LA to have good roads, since cars are so important there. But boy do they suck. And I was there during the big rains, which the roads were obviously not designed for. No drainage... huge plumes of water behind every car and truck on the outside lanes, and the drivers were (understandably) not ready for the rain either.

     

    The MOST annoying thing I saw was big traffic jams in LA that were due to nothing more than rubberneckers. At the end of one jam, we saw police and rescue vehicles along a canal, and right after that traffic was clear again. It's the butterfly effect applied to traffic.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    Those onramp stoplights got me thinking. Until the last several years, here in Lancaster county, Pa, on Rt. 30, there was the dumbest thing imagineable. At one interchange, with surface street Rt 501/Lititz Pike, the engineers actually had the off and on ramps crossing over each other, with stop signs for the on ramps. ALWAYS ALWAYS AAALLLWWWAAAYYYSSS so many accidents there!!! Can you imagine barreling down the ramp at 45-70mph and all a sudden a slow moving onramper oozes into your path!?! To quote Emerril "BAM!!!" All day long!
  • fredmcmurrayfredmcmurray Member Posts: 215
    We have those all over the place here in SoCal. People going from 70 to near zero criss-crossing with people trying to do 0-70. I haven't seen too many accidents but I've seen a lot of close calls, especially when you throw in a third type of driver - the idiot who uses the on/off ramp to get around slow moving traffic on the freeway and barrels along at 70 right through this confusion.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    Didn't have to worry about that kind of engineering marvel in the Barstow area. I-15 seemed to be a decent road, just needed a 3 lane each direction. Remember walking to school after a long holiday weekend, (crossing over on Barstow road.)on Monday morning, and traffic still being heavy, heading back to L.A..
  • goldstongoldston Member Posts: 110
    Good morning all,

     

    This post is not intended to inflame women, but I do have a question that I think only a woman can answer.

     

    What is the deal with putting on makeup or doing your hair while you drive on the freeway? I realize that people get up late sometimes or have car problems and that translate into having to push their morning routine, but what I saw this morning scared me down to my socks.

     

    I’m on the freeway this morning about 6:30am, traffic in all four lanes is moving from full speed 65mph down to 15mph, which is pretty normal. I look up in my rear-view mirror and see something that I can’t quite figure out. I see the driver behind me illuminated (it’s still dark outside) and I can’t see this person head, just the neck down.

     

    Then it hits me what’s going on… this driver has the sun visor pulled down, the vanity mirror open (thus the illumination) and is in the process of doing some kind of morning beautification. At this point I decide this is the last place I want to be is in front of this person, so I switch lanes and ease up on the accelerator so I can keep this driver out in front of me. I look over as the car (bmw 325i) glides by me and I see that the driver (she) is looking in the vanity mirror brushing her hair.

     

    Oh, well… I got to work, I didn’t hear of any freeway crashes on the radio, so I’m assuming she made it too and life goes on. I’m done with my ranting, just needed to expresses my concerns.

     

    Safe driving to all,

     

    Philip
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    our first real snowstorm, and there are already about 2 inches of the stuff on the ground. I'm sure I'll have an inconsiderate driver story or two tonite ;-)

     

    And speaking of women drivers, I overheard a couple talking here in the driveway, whining about driving in the snow and fishtailing. Can you make an FWD minivan fishtail?! I know you can still make an FWD car lose control, and when it does I think it's way scarier than when you do it with a RWD, but I thought fishtailing was more of an RWD "asset"?

     

    There's another one, who recently gave up her aging 200K+ mile Explorer for a used Infiniti Maxima. I'm sure it'll do just fine, but once they give up that 4wd, I guess they just feel naked!
  • danf5danf5 Member Posts: 38
    Philip, in the late '70s and early '80s my wife and I commuted into Philadelphia from NJ together. We usually took my car, a right hand drive Reliant Scimitar GT. I drove, she did her face, and many other drivers got very upset. No danger to anyone at all, though.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Dan
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    oh I'd have to play with that! I think, once someone's attention was on her, that I'd have her put on a blindfold. A fake steering wheel that you could temporarily rig up would do wonders for this.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    like that, where some old guy was driving with his wife in the passenger seat. She pulls out a fake steering wheel, as they pull up beside another driver. The driver isn't too visible because his wife is blocking the view, but she looks over at this other car, stares the driver right in the eye, and suddenly cuts the fake wheel violently in his direction.

     

    The other driver panics and goes into a skid. I forget what it was advertising, but it was pretty funny! I bet if you got ahold of an old mail delivery vehicle, you could have some fun with it...
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    and 45 mph zone on two lane road. Two cars in front of me going 30 on the way to work. A car comes up behind me and tailgates me for miles. I can't go faster and I'm staying a couple hundred feet back so I don't get salt spray on the windshield. DUH. This guy thinks I should go close up the gap so I can get salted!!!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    getting home in the snow. I think my 3.5 mile commute home took almost 20 minutes, instead of the usual 9 minutes or so. Okay, I know I'm not going to get much sympathy there ;-)

     

    Anyway, nothing exciting to report. People more or less drove sanely, nobody was tailgating, etc. Nobody off in the ditch, upside down, etc.

     

    Of course, now that it's after dark, and the road is starting to re-freeze, people are driving faster/more stupidly. I can hear them, occasionally zipping past my house. I'm pretty sure that, over the course of the night, somebody's going to end up off the road at the S-curve. It's a holiday tradition around here!
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    Why is it when the roads are dry and I want to do 80 mph everybody else wants to do 55 and drive side by side across 2-3 lanes while they do it. Then when there's a coating of snow and I'm trying to drive reasonably, everybody else on the road is suddenly an INDY car driver.

     

    I just headed south out Philly on 95 from the parents' house, taking care to keep it to 50-55 for most of the trip. Surprisingly, everybody was whipping past me with an urgency I could only wish people would drive with when it's clear out. Plenty of people doing 70 or above, tailgating, and making sudden lane changes. Lots of VERY impatient drivers. I couldn't help thinking, why is it these people are in such a rush right now? On the other hand if it were 70 degrees out with bone-dry roads and perfect conditions, the situation would be me stuck in the left lane behind some goof doing 54, who would be matching speeds almost perfectly with another goof in the middle lane, and one more car rocketing by those two in the right lane at a whopping 58. But throw a couple of inches of snow on the ground and all of a sudden people have places to go, things to do. Is maybe it some macho thing about suddenly feeling the need to show that you have the skill to drive at high speeds in poor conditions?
  • marsha7marsha7 Member Posts: 3,703
    these southern drivers, when they see snow, just lose any sense of responsibility...years ago someone (native Georgian) told me that people drive much faster in snow "so they can get home quicker before they have an accident"...they also speed up in heavy rain for the same reason, I suppose...just 1/4" of snow and these folks go nuts...can't figure it out...don't want to get too "regional" in my remarks, you know...:):):)
  • tazerelitazereli Member Posts: 241
    you would get no sympathy from my wife tonight. It took her 3.5 hours to drive 25 miles down I476 here in the philly area. Gridlock from the landsdale exit of the PA turnpike NE extension to I95.

     

    Kyle
  • dougd7dougd7 Member Posts: 71
    I hear you, andre. My commute takes me from Cheverly, MD (near PG hospital)where I work to King George County in Virginia via the beltway/MD 4/US301. Normally it's a 90 minute commute. Took a solid 2 hours last night. Roads weren't really that bad and traffic seemed to behave (for once!). Biggest problem I had was road spray. This weekend may prove interesting with another clipper (storm) moving through which may develop into a offshore low and provide 'significant' accumulation depending on what actually happens. We'll see.

     

    Doug
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    ...it's a small world! My grandparents on my Dad's side lived in Cheverly for years, and my Dad pretty much grew up there, until they moved to Riverdale when he was around 17. I forget the name of the street, but could probably find it if I wanted to. I know it's walking distance from a 7-Eleven, and I think you can see it from Route 50.

     

    I work in Greenbelt. One of my co-workers lives NW of Baltimore, normally less than an hour's commute. He said it took him FOUR hours to get home last night!
  • dougd7dougd7 Member Posts: 71
    Fours hours! I would have considered finding a local motel. A few years back during one of the ice storms it took me about 4 hours to get home. Left @ 5 pm and pulled in the driveway @ 9 pm. That's one drive I hope never to repeat.

     

    The 7-11 must be on Tuxedo Road which kinda of runs parallel to Rt 50 for a bit. Even though I've been commuting this route for over 17 years I rarely take Rt 50. - too congested during the morning/evening commute. My normal route takes me up the hosptial hill past the Pepsi plant and right by the hospital to Landover Rd. Then I get on the infamous beltway.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Years ago here in Miami, during rush hour out of downtown a tanker trunk flipped onto it's side, causing a fire that spilled onto some trees along side the highway. That and another vehicle in flames. Highway closed. I had friends/relatives that took them 5-6 hours to get home through side streets.

     

    How ONE issue, can affect sooooo many.
  • ranaldranald Member Posts: 147
    Big truck accidents are special. One time there was an accident where a truck flipped on I-78, blocking all westbound lanes. Some coworkers came in 2-3 hours late thanks to that one.

     

    There was some snow here Wednesday afternoon and evening, and I had to drive in it during the evening. A trip that normally takes anywhere from 50-70 minutes took me 165 (yes, 2 hours and 45 minutes).

     

    The funny thing (no, the really DAMN annoying thing, but I'm trying to be nice) is that where I was the conditions were hardly bad at all. There was no snow accumulation- between the temperatures and the road salt, the roads were just wet. The snow was also not heavy enough to impair visibility. But for miles at a time, major highways were creeping along at 5-15 mph. Absolutely infuriating, actually.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    it seemed like a tanker truck was flipping on the DC Beltway and bursting into flames, like every other week!
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Member Posts: 1,696
    what, was Jerry Bruckheimer directing traffic?
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Ah, part of today's daily entertainment! Even better when it hits the local tv and radio franchise! :(:)
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    maybe 99-2000. On I-76 coming West from Philly to the Suburbs, a tractor-trailor flipped. Now keep in mind it's already a poorly designed 2-lane road basically built into the side of a big mountain. Traffic was jammed for 8 HOURS. PEople were ordering pizzas and tossing frisbees around. At the time I was working at the King of Prussia mall and travelled the road daily. Luckily I Was off work and relaxed at home that day.

     

    And just a couple months or so ago I was headed south on 95 to meet a friend in Maryland when I got caught up in what appreared to be an EXTREMELY severe rain/thunder/hail storm that only lasted for a minute or two. I wonder if anybody else was caught in this one. The sky turned from clear to black and visibility was cut severely as I was driving, it stayed that way for 5 minutes, then as I drove through it there was another clear distinct border in the sky between pure black a clear, and then the storm ended. But right after, traffic slowed to a crawl. I thought, No big deal. Must have been a minor accident. Then a few minuts became an hour. An hour became two. Two became three. And then I started seeing medivac helicopters flying in and out over the highway and I knew I was screwed. Turned out there was a huge 11 car pileup that closed 95 that day. I was stuck there for over 4 hours, and this was just to inch and crawl my way 2 miles to the next available exit.

     

    I ended up calling my friend and telling him Id be needing a raincheck, got off at the next exit to have dinner at a good restaraunt, then turned around and high-tailed it back home. OF course this all happened AFTER I made it through Delaware, which meant after driving all that way for nothing I owed 7$ in tolls to get back home.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >I owed 7$ in tolls to get back home.

     

    Is I95 a toll road somewhere?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ny540i6ny540i6 Member Posts: 518
    95 is toll in NJ (NT turnpike), toll in Delaware (between Delaware and NJ, and at least one other place) and I pay a toll on 95 between NY and CT.
  • carlisimocarlisimo Member Posts: 1,280
    Lifted Ford Excursion, with lights that seemed overly bright even far from away, and lit up the entire interior of my car when it was behind me. Flipping my rear view mirror to night mode just made things worse, that's how bad it was. Turns out there was a bunch of girls in it, which I found surprising for some reason, but either way it was frustrating and it was in a traffic jam so it took a while to move and let someone else suffer.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    I was on the Surekill Expy heading North or West or what ever direction. I was in the Marines at the time, on duty, and was driving the duty vehicle back from the Philly airport. Duty vehicle was a CUTV, aka 1.25ton 4X4 diesel pickup. I was in the left lane, just edge out traffic, when all of a sudden a teeny bopper in a Omnirizon flys up the ramp and straight over to the left lane. I was doing 70 and she was doing 50...I know cuz after sealing some pavement cracks with my Goodyears, that's the speed I paced her at. She was doing her mascara. That big p-up would have crushed her like a bug! She had no clue how close to death she had come. I was fuming, but behaved myself. I just laid the hammer back down and went on around her.

     

    During the same time period, I commuted from the Willow Grove base in Horsham, to Lancaster County daily for 2 years. During one crash related jam, after sitting for nearly an hour. Some brainiac decided to cut the fence. I watched over a hundred(I counted! :)) cars drive through before I took the risk. I wasn't 50 yards past the cut, when I saw a Statie coming my way. No lights or sirens, but I knew where he was headed. That was in 98 I believe.
  • ranaldranald Member Posts: 147
    It's also a toll road for the half-mile (sarcasm) stretch in New Hampshire.
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    I cannot stand that 5$ toll going North. For me to get south from Philly to MD isn't bad at all. To go North straight shot it's now literal hihghway robbery, about 8 dollars in tolls for a 130 mile ride. It's a buck coming through Baltimore, 5 to enter Delaware, another 2 to leave Delaware. I can't stand it but I consider all the gas money and time it would cost to circumvent it and it seems less than cost-effective to do so.

     

     If I really wanted to put fourth the effort I could use 695 to get around the Baltimore toll and pick up 95 further up in Northern Maryland, and then route 1 to circumvent the Delaware tolls. I have done so a few times when I was in the mood for a slow cruise. But when I count the gas money and extra time, it's unfortunately not worth it. I do it mainly to spite the toll authority, not to save cash.

     

    If it's night time and there's no traffic I can make the trip on the alternate routes almost as fast as I can do it on 95. But it doesn't quite work like that during the day when there's more cars on the road.

     

    And yes Andre I think it was in October if I recall correctly. The pileup it caused on 95 made the news big time.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    hmmm....perhaps they should put disablers in the cars. That way if they don't want hands free technology, the disabler could block the incoming or outgoing signal, if the car is in motion.

     

    Even tho hands free still is distracting, it allows for both hands on the wheel, which helps, a little. I am guilty of using my cell, while driving. However it's like once a month or less.

     

    I even correct my wife when she does it, cuz she usually has our little one along when she calls.

     

    One of my sisters in law punched a red light, cuz she was reaching for the cell. The light was red long before she approached it. My other sister in law was with her. She was hollerin about the light. Anyway, brother found out, few weeks later, when oldest daughter(4 at the time) spilled the beans. He cut her off at the knees. She went 6 months w/o cell phone. Hopefully she learned her lesson. Fortunetly there was a lull in cross traffic when she bombed the intersection.
  • andyman73andyman73 Member Posts: 322
    Oh yeah, there were 4 children under the age of 4, in the minivan, and one on the way, at the time of that incident. Could have been a horrible tragedy. God was watching them that day!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    and Sunday morning, we got a combination of snow, ice, and freezing rain. Total came out to maybe 2 inches. When I went out to clean off my car on Sunday, it was the type of stuff where once you cleared a bit of it, most of it would just slide off in one big sheet. Took maybe 2 minutes total to clean my car off.

     

    That afternoon I went out to Ikea with my uncle, in his truck. I saw 2 or 3 cars where the driver's didn't bother to clear off the rear window at all! So they were relying solely on their door mirrors for any visibility, and in one case, one car even had ice on the mirrors!

     

    Isn't it illegal to drive with your rear window completely obscured like that?

     

    At one point, there was this early 90's Corolla in front of us, with the back window completely covered. There was a county cop behind us. We were in my uncle's truck, so the cop couldn't see the car.

     

    Finally, we got to a point where the cop passed us in another lane, and here I'm thinking that if he has any sense about him, he'll pull that Corolla over.

     

    No such luck. And to add insult to injury, the cop's rear window was completely obstructed, too! And the police wonder why we civilians often have so little respect for them! :-/
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