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That's when I just sit and wait for them.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Yes, he was on the phone.;>
This is happening more and more as the days get shorter.
I did it again, leaving them on a bit longer and at that point, he turned on his red and blue lightbar for a second.
Yep, a damm COP of all things!
Guess he can do whatever he wants to?
Had a young girl in a Mazda 929 try to rearrange the driver's side of my Contour, this evening. I was on the way to work, on Rt. 30W, and she thought to come over my way, no signal, probably didn't see me, had a cellphone surgically implanted on the R side of her head, partially obscuring her peripheral vision, and creating a semi sized blind spot. A little horn broke her conversation just long enough to get her back into her lane.
I feel sorry for those who drive very small cars, and experience the same visibility problems parked between two Grand Marquis.
Harry
Are SUVs and pickups REQUIRED to speed and tailgate when the roads are wet and slippery?
Also, does no one know that an intersection with broken traffic lights means FOUR WAY STOP?
Okay, I'm done (for now...)
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I have seen several drivers today wallowing through snow ruts where the plows in other suburbs had not plowed a lot of the snow with a cellphone up to their ear. It's easy to hit snow piles in the intersections while turning and end up stuck; they're talking on the phone. I got tailgated by one today (a man).
Does this happen in other areas or is it Ohio's poor drivers that do this.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
This guy in a Camry, not to be outdone, flies from the back of the line in the center lane into the left lane and then into the left turn lane and floors it through the intersection (thankfully the car that was going saw this moron and stopped). He nearly hit my car and a median in the process.
Now where was Mr. Camry man going in such a hurry? Well he sat at the entrance to I-90 East waiting at that red light!
Yeesh if you're going to run one red light in a maniacal way why not just run the other? Do you only get one freebie per day?
Just amazing.
Oh and Imidazol . . . It's everywhere. . . Ahia doesn't have the monopoly on bad SUV drivers. ;-)
In these parts in the snow the SUVs may tailgate the smaller cars cut you off. I'd rather be tailgated by a SUV then cut-off.
In an crash, the vehicle in back is responsibile. I've seen a number of situations, where a driver got cut-off only to have traffic stop and then hit the car that cut them off.
Phooey. The SUV drivers can see over your car so they tailgate blatantly. The Civic, Camry, LeSabre driver can't easier see through your car, so they keep a reasonable distance -- in most cases.
The SUV drivers also have a sense of invincibility because of their huge size (and gas consumption), so they believe they can stop quicker, etc., if they need to do so.
SUV drivers also pull up next to you at stop sign intersections so you can't see traffic coming through their huge bulk. They will squeeze into a little space next to me to make a right turn while I'm trying to observe traffic to make a left turn. They can't even wait.
I don't observe this behavior from minivan drivers and Pacifica drives, e.g.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Well phooey on your phooey. Just because the car is smaller doesn't make the behavior any less excusable. Tailgaiters will tailgate the same independent of the vehicle. The same driver who is a tailgateer will tailgate in a Civic, SUV, or an 18-wheeler. Obviously being tailgated by an 18-wheeler is much more dangerous than a Civic, but it doesn't lessen the potentially bad consequences of either.
Merry Christmas everyone and Happy New Year.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Peace!
However, I think the main reason that SUVs get targeted is simply because they're more visible. For example, if a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla is riding my rump, who cares? It's not like it's going to hurt me, and if he centers his car, I won't even see it in my side view mirrors! It becomes more of an annoyance than a threat.
However, SUV? Whole different story. First off, it'll block the vision in your mirrors, and at night time, the headlights are going to be dangerously blinding. And if you get rear-ended by a good-sized one and you're driving a car, you have a pretty good chance that your car becomes a writeoff for the insurance company. And if you're not lucky, you might be, too!
While almost everybody knows what tail gating is, i.e., something the GIB (guy in back) does, which means by default "ME" NEVER DOES IT
The domination desire...
"when an SUV does it, the only real difference is it is MORE noticeable"
I disagree with that. The SUVs are driven differently by _some_ people, probably not by you, but by others
"Small cars get in the majority of accidents and fatalities. In fact, % and volume for accidents and fatalities (given the population of SUVS) is very very low for SUV's"
There are _more_ small cars; when they get in accidents, especially with larger vehicles, there will be a higher percentage of fatalities.
SUVs may not get in as many accidents, but they probably cause more injuries and death in the accidents they do cause, and they cause accidents where they drive away untouched.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Not necessarily...we had a call from a constituent who complained that the police officer cited him for "brake checking" the vehicle behind him, thus causing a rear-end collision.
The constituent, of course, denied everything, but the police officer's determination stood.
imidazol97: There are _more_ small cars; when they get in accidents, especially with larger vehicles, there will be a higher percentage of fatalities.
SUVs have outsold small cars (Civic, Focus, Corolla, etc, and below) for quite some time. Small cars account for a disporportionate share of accidents and fatalities, including single-vehicle accidents.
A few years ago, USA Today, which is hardly an apologist for SUVs, ran an article on small car safety, and noted that around 56 percent of all fatalities in a small car result from single-vehicle accidents.
SUV drivers have never concerned me even when I'm driving my compact car, it's the idiots in the other compact cars that think there car can go where no others can get to.
Smaller cars will lose to larger cars in an accident and certainly an out of control truck driver can do more damage than an out of control Civic driver.
But that's no reason to stereotype people who drove the larger SUVs.
"Not necessarily...we had a call from a constituent who complained that the police officer cited him for "brake checking" the vehicle behind him, thus causing a rear-end collision."
Hmmm. Sounds a little fishy. Even if brake checked the cops will usually ticket both drivers. The front driver for intentionally trying to cause an accident and the back driver for unsafe driving. I know of a case where this happened. I guess that's the difference between PA and NJ.
Anyway, ahead of me there was a GMC Sierra pickup that was weaving in and out of traffic. In my mind, I formed a mental picture of some angry, impatient teen who was trying to make like Charleton Heston parting the Red Sea.
Well, I caught up to him when my lane sped up a bit, and saw that it was an older Asian guy, who looked more like he was just being inattentive, than aggressive. Had a blank look on his face as he'd get up on the car ahead of him, sometimes as close as maybe 2-3 feet off its bumper, and even move towards the left a bit, as if to block the side view mirror of the car in front of him.
I can never understand people like that. How in the world is tailgating the car in front of you going to make traffic move any faster, when there's nothing but a sea of brakelights ahead of you?!
I fail to see the logic that because a SUV driver can see over your car they are tailgaters.
I drive a SUV.
Do you know I can't see over or through minivans, delivery vehicles, other SUV's. or 18 wheelers any better than someone driving a car. When I get 2 SUV's or minivans on both sides of me in a parking lot, I might as well be driving a car for all the good my capability to see over cars,does me in those situations.
If you are behind a SUV in a car, and can't see through the SUV, how do you know the SUV driver is tailgating ?
Maybe those of you who camp in the left lane, not passing anyone, get tailgated by lots of vehicles, not just SUV's
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Typically the most aggressive drivers around here are in pickups with chromed parts. In the rain, same thing. One of them was doing his weaving on a street with many stoplights. One time he tried to stop, his rear end wobble a little, and he stepped on it instead and zoom through. Didn't try stopping at the red beyond that. Luckily they had just turned red so cross-traffic was coming out very slowly due to the puddles.
I find more tailgating by SUVs than by regular vehicles, based on the proportion on the roads at the time.
We have multilane roads in this area; and it is possible to tell the distance between other vehicles to determine tailgating on two-lane roads.
I've even been tailgated after our 16-20 inch snowfall, by lady SUVer with a cellphone to her ear. And sorry to spoil your schtick, but I was in the right lane going below the speed limit, prima facie limit applies.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I learned to drive in the snow in Chicago with heavy old rear wheel drive cars. Once the roads were plowed, we drove like the snow wasn't there.
I have seen many people who are very uncomfortable driving in the snow. They are usually driving 25 MPH max, and continually tapping their brakes. I don't know why they don't stay home if they are so uncomfortable driving in the snow.
In the DC area, when more than 2 inches of snow falls, those afraid to drive in the snow, abandon their cars in the road
My wife is a nurse. I had my 4Runner out in over 2 1/2 feet of snow, the first Winter I had it, (That snowfall set a 137 year old record for most snow in 1 day in Baltimore).I took my wife to work. They didn't plow our sub-division for 4 days. I didn't have a problem, having learned how to drive in snow.
BTW my 4Runner has Vehicle Skid Control, ABS, and full time 4WD. It also has over 9 inches of ground clearance.
I have a cell phone in it. I pull off to the side of the road to use it.
SUV's are much better for tailgating than are cars.
I can carry much more food in coolers and a large grill. I get to the football stadium 2-3 hours early and have a lot of fun tailgating.
Also, Pat be careful when switching your use of the word "tailgate." You threw me off when you switched definitions in your last post. Or was that intentional?
Phooey. The SUV drivers can see over your car so they tailgate blatantly. The Civic, Camry,
LeSabre driver can't easier see through your car, so they keep a reasonable distance -- in most cases.
The SUV drivers also have a sense of invincibility because of their huge size (and gas
consumption), so they believe they can stop quicker, etc., if they need to do so.
SUV drivers also pull up next to you at stop sign intersections so you can't see traffic coming through their huge bulk. They will squeeze into a little space next to me to make a right turn while I'm trying to observe traffic to make a left turn. They can't even wait.
Did you see the words "some SUV drivers" in the above ? Or was it a generality about SUV drivers ?
I am now going to start tailgating cars. At night, since my head lights are so high relative to a car, I'll tailgate with my high beams on. I'll light up the car's interior like day light. I wouldn't want to disappoint my fellow SUV drivers.
I deliberately used a different definition of the word "tailgate" as a humorous way of dealing with the post cited above.
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I lit her up with my high beam flash. But nothing changed. She was a local driver so she knew the layout.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Isn't that what everyone is supposed to do ? What would you have her do? Blow through the construction zone at 100 mph? Perhaps you are willing to pay the ticket when she is stopped?
I lit her up with my high beam flash.
Now, that is illegal.
Since she was on her cell phone, she just slowed down quickly. Lucky I wasn't one of the Kansas trucks that has been on the road for 12-14 hours behind her. They would have run her over.
"Now, that is illegal.":
Tulip: I'll apologize when she apologizes for not driving with full alertness.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Harry
Traffic is such at 6:30 am when I go to work, that I am less than 6 car lengths behind the vehicle I am following by the time I get to the place where all must slow down.
Harry
I happen to do (conceptually) what you do! I do NOT get tail gated with NEAR the frequency or intensity that a majority of those folks who express this as a problem, do.
While I usually drive in the higher percentile ranges, I really mean this at all points of the spectrum.
Every once in a while, I get tailgated inappropriately by some nimrod, but it's not too often since I follow the same rules that you do. I use the left lane for passing, and if somebody wants to get by me, I move over.
People who impede the flow of traffic don't have too much of a right to complain about tailgating.
I am also not appreciative of dodging body parts that are mortared at you at 55-80 mph!