Ford Freestyle - Taurus X

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  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    Actually, I spotted several. They were parked in the dealers lot when I was taking one for a test drive.

    It's getting prepped right now and we pick it up on Tuesday.
    :-)

    (more later after I get it home)
  • jschreiberjschreiber Member Posts: 50
    Bought a Freestayle AWD SE model in December
    went through Minneapolis winter with flying colors--outstanding in snow--better than my Jeep liberty by far (our other car). The AWD is volvo in design and very sophisticated--I never felt any delay or slippage
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Congratulations! Enjoy the new car smell for miles to come. :shades:
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    Good for you!! I did a lot of research before buying. I have to admit, it was the test drive that sold me. I don't drive a lot and I treat it like a baby. I bought in early March and it just turned over 2500 miles today. I know this car will last as long as I need it to. I'm planning a trip from Duluth MN to Everett WA via US Hwy 2 and back to Minneapolis by Interstate later this summer. That will put on some miles, and give me a really good idea of freeway gas mileage. My city mileage is consistently 20 mpg. I have not had a single problem with mine and hope the same holds true for you. Mine was built in February 2005. I'm wondering if the folks who are having problems have earlier built vehicles, and the later builds have the bugs shook out of them. Enjoy, and see you out there!
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Tim, to add a data point to your "bugs" theory, my Redfire SEL was built in late November, 2004. I have not had a problem either. A Minnesota winter did nothing but add to my confidence in the Freebie. :shades:
  • oldgwtholdgwth Member Posts: 25
    Have a SEL AWD with a 10/04 build date with 10k driven and no bugs. I enjoy the Freebie more every day and get great gas mileage. Enjoy yours :shades:
  • garandmangarandman Member Posts: 524
    Perhaps the best winter tire for heavy snow is Bridgestone's Blizzak, but I've been plenty happy up here in Minnesota running my car with Michelin Arctic Alpins from Thanksgiving to late March.

    The Blizzak has the hydrophilic tread only 1/2 depth. I bought the new design Nokians last winter and they're terrific.
  • mrlizzzardmrlizzzard Member Posts: 31
    Love the Freestyle for traveling MPG was around 20 but I haul [non-permissible content removed] and it was loaded with gear with AC on.Many people are noticing the car now more than before.Ford should pay us to advertise.In Ohio everyone gets rebate and X plan now.What's stopping you?
    power is fine,solid friendly vehichle.I had it in snow one time and it hugged the road and I could not break it loose while trying to.
    lizzzard
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    They probably got that tidbit form the article here on Edmunds that says the Freestyle will be dropped....and then they ran with it. Nice reporting job...:-P

    A source in these boards who is a direct link to Ford has said that the Frestyle is going nowhere. As far as low sales, it's only been out for roughly six months....most people like to sit on new models to see if they implode or not.

    But perhaps the article is right and the Freestyle is going to turn into the Meta One. My guess is that if it happens, they'll just call it a Ford 500 wagon....whatever works. I think the concept of a sport utility wagon (if you want to call it that) is here to stay.
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    I picked up our AWD Redfire SEL last night! Nice car inside and out. Got it for $3300 under MSRP and with the current 0% financing, how could we go wrong. I always feel after haggling the price that I could have done better....oh, well. We're pleased with it.
    I haven't had a chance to play with all of the toys yet, but that will come in due time.

    One thing I have noticed is that the rear passenger door exhibits the "does not close easily" bug that others have mentioned. I first thought it might just be a tight seal to the car preventing it (as was mentioned here), but the other doors work fine. I then tried shutting it with the same force, but I held onto the door handle and when I do that it shuts fine! :-)
    My guess as to what is happening here is that the door gasket may be preventing it from shutting normally and may actually be boucing the door back out because it's too thick and springy. If this is the case, then with time, the gasket will compress and mold itself to the door and will eventually close just fine.

    I would be interested in hearing from others if they can duplicate the same thing with their door. (try keeping your hand on the handle as you close it)

    Going for a long drive this weekend and I'm looking forward to driving my new toy!
    :-)
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Congrats Nitro!

    Can you report on the buying experience over in Ford Freestyle: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences? There's a dozen virtual KK's in it for you. :-)

    Steve, Host
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    Woo HOO !!

    I'm there!

    (boy, you hosts have all sorts of tricks)
  • toaster1toaster1 Member Posts: 4
    We have been enjoying our gold AWD Limited and hope it turns out to be reliable, so far we are at 1800 miles and seem to be doing well..

    But I just saw this article on FORBES with this quote.

    "According to supplier sources familiar with the automaker's plans, Ford (nyse: F - news - people ) will drop its low-selling Freestyle SUV at the end of model-year 2007."
    http://www.forbes.com/vehicles/2005/06/28/ford-mercury-crossovers-cx_dl_0628vow.html

    I wonder how this would impact resale, future service, etc..
  • moogiemoogie Member Posts: 7
    I've been considering purchasing a AWD Freestyle. I just put 155,000 miles on my Volvo V70 and it's time for a new car. Since I've been driving a Volvo for so long, the Freestyle feels like a comfy pair of jeans. The Freestyle is perfect for my needs, I need more room. My V70 has been a nightmare car for repairs and the CVT problems really scare me. I'm wondering what the percentage is of vehicles that are having CVT problems. Does anyone have any data? One last thing, I've notice people calling this car the Freebie, what is the history of that? Thanks!
  • sjcssjcs Member Posts: 2
    Has anyone found the after market site for all the Freestyle goodies? I am looking for a cargo mat and seat mats that match. Just picked up my Freestyle last Friday (June 24th) and I love it!!
  • indybellindybell Member Posts: 40
    Once again. There are literally a ton of places on the internet for aftermarket goodies. One place that seems to have lots of mats is: autosportcatalog.com. I'm sure there are others out there that have their own recommendations.
  • cdndriver2cdndriver2 Member Posts: 36
    I find this hard to believe. Don't you? The FS has been out for less than one year and there are plans to remove it from the line-up. Sure ... let's just forget about the millions spent to develop this vehicle. The CVT and the Volvo AWD setup we will just forget about. If the FS really catches on and tons are sold what happens then?
    I think Forbes meant FreeSTAR not Freestyle. That makes sense.
    Forbes - please send us these so called supplier sources so we can discuss further.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, I don't know what to think; we reported the same thing earlier this month. The Freestyle sure seems popular on the Forums here; anyone have actual sales figures for recent months?

    Five Fords in Your Future

    Steve, Host
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    Has anyone found the after market site for all the Freestyle goodies? I am looking for a cargo mat and seat mats that match. Just picked up my Freestyle last Friday (June 24th) and I love it!!

    http://www.fordaccessoriesstore.com/fas/consumer/fas_ConsumerHome.asp
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Out at lunch today, I saw a Titanium Green Freebie parked at work, and a white one driving by. Must be a convention of Freestyles. Good to see them finally showing up. :shades:
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    At www.blueovalnews.com in the Business & Financial News section May sales for the Freestyle were: 6084 and May CYTD was 28,677 (see post 3600). Not sure what CYTD means, possibly Continent Year to Date.
    Others in the Ford family:
    F-Series May, 74,494 - CYTD 335,269
    Taurus May, 20,502 - CYTD 92,819
    Escape May, 14,038 - CYTD 73,217
    500 May, 8977 - CYTD 40,492
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    CYTD is calendar year to date(from January to present), as opposed to model year to date.

    That posting of Freestyle being discontinued I believe is in error. ANT14 who seems to be a Ford insider confirmed that the article was in error, and Freestyle was being confused with Freestar, the Windstar successor. Check post 3479.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    Of course calendar YTD, DUH. I also can't believe that Ford would discontinue a new model based on only one year of sales and production. I'm still wondering why Freestyle sales are so flat. As most, if not all of us in this forum feel, this is an excellent vehicle all around. I don't think Ford has really advertised this vehicle too hard. I've seen a few television commercials and no magazine ads. All reviews of this car were positive by the automobile industry mags. For some reason all the positive information out there hasn't reached the auto consumer. Everyone who has been in my car are totally impressed with the ride and comfortable interior. Maybe the rest of the country will eventually catch on.
  • globecanvasglobecanvas Member Posts: 45
    Ford releases detailed sales figures only for Feb, May, Aug, Nov, so the next data will be August sales released in September.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    The blueoval.com web site, which claims it is the Independent Voice of the Ford Community, published in Dearborne, MI the hometown of Henry Ford publishes monthly sales figures for all Ford models under the Business & Financial link. It links to media.ford.com and gives market share news, monthly sales reports, financial news and incentive information for 2004 and 2005.
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Make that "blueovalnews.com". :shades:
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    This is from another post.

    "I just wanted to say that at our last meeting our area manager told us that in '07 we would be dropping the Freestyle because it was taking too many sales from the Explorer. Also that we will only have a Mercury version of it. He also said that the Freestyle name would be going on our version of a Honda Element. He said they wanted to recycle the name because Ford had spent a lot of money on that name already. Just wanted to tell you what we were told."

    Perhaps the Freestyle is not the main issue. As gas prices rise, the Freestyle looks more attractive compared to the Explorer as long as heavy towing is not an issue. Ford may want to hold on to the Freebie beyond 2007 (MY 2008?) (if there is any truth to that rumor). :shades:
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    I think Forbes and otehrs are confused by the similar names. It seems that the minivan, not the Freestyle, will be discontinued.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Wouldn't Forbes (or Edmunds for that matter) print a retraction or a clarification? The Freestar/Freestyle names are a bit confusing, but you'd think that someone at Ford media would contact Forbes to clarify. Curious.

    Here's ANT's earlier crystal ball post btw:

    ANT14, "Ford Freestyle" #3479, 7 Jun 2005 5:08 pm

    Steve, Host
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    "I just wanted to say that at our last meeting our area manager told us that in '07 we would be dropping the Freestyle because it was taking too many sales from the Explorer. Also that we will only have a Mercury version of it. He also said that the Freestyle name would be going on our version of a Honda Element. He said they wanted to recycle the name because Ford had spent a lot of money on that name already. Just wanted to tell you what we were told."

    LOL
    I would think Ford would have enough foresight to know what they are doing a few years down the road....seeing as how it takes that long to design a new vehicle. And for them to change their mind and discontinue a new vehicle after one year is ludicrous...add to that that they decided to move the name Freestyle to a completely different design platform is insane.
    Sounds like a bogus post.
  • spears2spears2 Member Posts: 10
    I bought my SEL a little under a month ago. Love the vehicle with the exception of the Visteon radio. The one from the factory snacked on my CD's. The replacement munched on them. The second replacement, while having no taste for CD's, doesn't like to modulate the volume according to speed. This feature worked on the first radio, was never tested on the second because it never left the lot before it ate a CD, and now doesn't work on the third.
    Now my dealer is telling me that speed sensitive volume is a feature of the Limited radio only. I know this feature worked in the first radio, as we played with it and it didn't first eat a CD until after a few days. They claim they can't reprogram the SEL because Ford says the SE/SEL doesn't have the equipment necessary to send a signal to the radio to modulate the volume. They can't explain to me how my SEL had the speed vol working from the factory. I ended up leaving unsatisfied because I had no solid proof of my claim and they had no SELs on hand to test drive.
    Does anyone out there own an SEL (or even an SE) where the speed vol works?
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    I haven't played too much with it, but I know that my salesman DID say that my SEL has speed sensitive volume. Perhaps it comes with one of the option packages and is not standard on the SEL?
  • spears2spears2 Member Posts: 10
    The radio is the same no matter which option package, though, no? I got mine with the front row comfort package and the second row console.
  • bobnu75bobnu75 Member Posts: 21
    Sorry for the late reply - I've been out of town. I got it out of the blue but I had sent in a few months ago for info re: the Freestyle so I'm on a list.
  • moogiemoogie Member Posts: 7
    How did the Freestyle get the nickname Freebie? I've seen 3 Freestyles in Tucson, AZ, Green, White, and Red.
  • paulsanpaulsan Member Posts: 8
    Probably a pattern repeated over the years. For example, in April we traded in our Subie for a Freebie (2002 Subaru Forester - 2005 Freestyle)
  • paulsanpaulsan Member Posts: 8
    confusing? Bottomline, I'm happy with my Freestyle (2700 miles). But as a company, they shouldn't cry about lose of profits or stock prices. I hope it hits those directly responsible for their OK of this marketing debacle. It's nothing personal, it's just not good business. Ford wanted to turn back the clock to the glory days when everything started with "F". So someone dropped the ball/dictionary as if they ran out of names beginning with "F". Even I wouldn't have allowed two vehicles to begin with FREE. If this had been a project on the Apprentice®, they would have been another "F" word ... FIRED!!
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Member Posts: 468
    Let's be calm. Nobody knows for sure what will happen. Agreed, there is one too many Free-- in the Ford stable. The Explorer type vehicles have their days numbered, but for the meantime Ford depends on them for profits. I am not sure it would do Ford much good to eliminate the Freestyle and make it only a Mercury. There aren't many Mercury dealers out there. And a diesel ? What for????? Ford would be selling many more Freestyles if they had had a more powerful optional engine available. We intend to keep ours for a long time, so I am not concerned about resale value. But I am concerned about future service-parts for the CVT if Ford will abandon it. I have seen quite a few Freestyles in our area (northwest) recently. Willie, haven't heard from you in a long time. What do you think? How's the Limited?
  • been_freebeen_free Member Posts: 2
    I have my Freestyle for almost 3 weeks and everything is OK
    The sound system is working perfect, as well as the speed volume control.
    I do really love my car.
  • buyonebuyone Member Posts: 5
    I have an SE, and it does work.

    Mine now has 1000 miles and I must say it is the best vehicle I have ever owned so far. Would like to see better gas milage though. I ahve been getting 18.5 MPH, with ALL city driving with the air on...Expect it to get better...
  • spears2spears2 Member Posts: 10
    Thanks all. Time to go to a different dealer for service.
  • tim156tim156 Member Posts: 308
    It sounds like there's a whole bunch of confusion regarding Ford discontinuing the Freestyle. I still can't believe Ford would discontinue a new model after only three years of production. If it happens, it happens. We were all smart enough to buy and enjoy. A lot of car buyers will lose out on a great vehicle. If Ford pushed the quality, safety, roominess and comfort of this car in an all out advertising campaign sales might increase. Unless this was the plan at Ford all along.
    If a vehicle is discontinued, I believe manufacturers are required to provide replacement parts for 13 years after the final model year. The CVT will continue to be used in the 500 and it's my guess in future models as well. Parts and service concerns shouldn't be a problem. Dealers will continue to be trained to service the CVT, engine and suspension. If it's gone in two years, we'll all have a limited edition vehicle. If it's redesigned and re-labeled as a Mercury, my guess is it will be in the style of the new, and ugly, square box style. At least we all bought when it was a good looking vehicle. I'm sure there will be a lot more discussion on this subject.
  • mechanics200mechanics200 Member Posts: 5
    I have an SEL and the radio does have the volumn modulation feature. I tried it a few months ago but did not like the feature. I believe it was listed from one of the menu options.
  • nitromaxnitromax Member Posts: 640
    The radio is the same no matter which option package, though, no? I got mine with the front row comfort package and the second row console.

    I was playing with mine tonight. (SEL)
    The menu button (I believe its called?) on the right can be pushed in to toggle through the various settings (bass treble, fade balance) and there is also a setting for speed volume. Mine was set to "off" so I found that by pushing the up/down button on the right side of the CD slot I was able to change the speed volume from 0 to 1,2,3..etc.

    Try checking your stereo to see if you even have that setting.
    Possibly change your dealer...or just humble him a little. They tend to get swollen heads.
    :-)
  • cdndriver2cdndriver2 Member Posts: 36
    Coincidentally, I read an article in Canada's national newspaper (Globe and Mail) today regarding the future of Ford. You know ... all that buzz about issues with Ford sales and their article centered on future products Ford will introduce.
    The article listed planned introductions/updates for years ahead and here is what is is in store for 2008.
    Copied from Globe and Mail article ...
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------
    "YEAR 2008

    Ford Focus redesigned: Key volume small car

    Ford Five Hundred freshened: Larger family sedan gets newer styling

    Ford Freestyle freshened: Crossover utility gets an update

    Ford E-series van: Working van

    Ford Expedition: Large SUV is updated

    Lincoln Navigator: Large luxury SUV is updated

    Jaguar S-Type: Rival to Mercedes-Benz E-class and BMW 5-series updated

    Lincoln LS: Updated design of American luxury in a larger sedan

    Volvo V70 wagon: Key model in Volvo lineup is redesigned

    Ford/Mercury mid-size hybrid sedan: Ford Fusion is likely to be available in a hybrid"
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------
    So it looks like Freestyle has a future. Sorry, I do not know where this info was gathered and maybe it too is in question. I think I will ask Globe and Mail for their sources ... lol.

    Oh ... I noticed another FS in the parking lot where I work. I thought that was cool. :D
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Here is an excerpt from a July 1st Ford press release:

    "The company's new full-size sedans continued to post strong sales. The Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego combined for 10,823 sales in June with 85 percent delivered to retail customers. The Ford Freestyle crossover utility posted it best sales month so far (6,820) bringing combined sales for all three Chicago products to 17,643. First half sales for these products totaled 96,424.

    Among trucks, the company continued to see higher sales among crossover utility vehicles. Combined sales for the Ford Freestyle, Ford Escape, Mercury Mariner, and Volvo's XC70 and XC90 were 28,342, up 31 percent compared with a year ago. Combined sales for traditional sport utility vehicles SUVs were off 3 percent in June."

    :shades:
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    If a vehicle is discontinued, I believe manufacturers are required to provide replacement parts for 13 years after the final model year.

    That's an urban legend I'm afraid. Ask any Daewoo owner. :shades:

    Steve, Host
  • northlakesnorthlakes Member Posts: 368
    Steve,

    I appreciate your comments. Here is a quote on the Federal requirements by a VP at Edmunds.com, Bob Kurilko. :shades:

    " Some of the practical concerns in the past, like parts availability, are no longer a big factor in making a decision, Kurilko says.

    Federal law now requires manufacturers to stock enough parts after a model is discontinued to cover the entire warranty period, including manufacturers' extended warranties of up to 10 years and 100,000 miles. Plus, what you can't get from the manufacturer, you can get on your own."

    Service is another issue, but the D3 chassis will live on, and everything from switches to bearings to transmission technology will be used/shared in other Ford/Mercuries. People will know how to fix a Freestyle, just like people with Oldsmobiles can get service.

    As for Daewoo, bankruptcy and dissolution compounds their ability to meet Federal law in a big way. The dust is still settling on that story.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Thanks Northlakes. We've been having fun with this one for several years now.

    tincup47, "Land Rover Range Rover" #30, 14 May 2002 3:25 pm

    Steve, Host
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