Kia Sorento

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  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    For my opinion, oil should be changed at this mileage or every 3 months even if not driven too much. But I did change the oil at every 6000 miles on my older car with Mobil 1. And the car runs great. And I properly love my Sorento too much and decided to have it changed every 3K miles. For Sorento, it isn't expensive for an oil change at my dealer with OEM filter and regular oil, just under $25.00. I got a coupon for under $18.00 at my first oil change.
  • steve281steve281 Member Posts: 26
    Hello again, people,
    My dealer will extend my warranty tip to tip ten years /100,000 miles total for $1,589 including oil changes. It will also include some situations outside the bounds of the manufacturer's warranty.
    Would you recommend this?
    Thanks so much for all your helpful feedback.
    Steve
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    ...sounds like a reasonable deal to me. I do have a few questions. Do you get a discounted price on things like brake work/pad replacement, shocks/springs, exhaust and belts? I know some extended warranties include these discounts...just wasn't sure about the Kia's. Also, is that extended warranty transferable?

    I guess my only other question in regards to yours would be...do you plan on keeping the truck for that long? Or drive that many miles? If the answer is yes, then it seems like a decent deal to me. If you know anymore detail of that extended warranty, I would love to hear the details. Thanks.

    Mark.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    The sales managers didn't even ask me about the extended warranty. But I believe $1.5K is way too much. Ask yourself a few questions. Are you going to keep your car for 10 years? How much you are going to spend on oil change? The basic bumper-to-bumper warranty covers 5 years or 50000 miles. So you are buying another 5 years for $1.5.

    I just bought a 2003 Camry less than 2 weeks ago. The sales manager initial tried to sell me the 6 years extended warranty for $13XX. I refused the offer. He immediately cut it half for $6XX. I insisted. Then he made a final offer for $585. (I don't remember the exact amount because I didn't pay attention). I would consider his final offer if I can get a lower APR or some special deal like free state inspection, oil change, etc. But I took the 0% APR from Toyota already. Anyway, you can see how much profit they can make and how much do I need it.

    When I bought my 93 Accord new, I bought the extended warranty (6 years) because they offered me a low APR (over 1% lower than most banks) for the car. And my car has never returned to shop for warranty repair for the first 6 years.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I just follow what's in my owner's manual.

    Steve, Host
  • ivan4741ivan4741 Member Posts: 24
    I only know of one guy who really got his moneys worth on this( Program) thats "USED" Dodge Intrepid the head warped because the stupid jerk just would not get a failing water pump replaced before it quit pumping. He had this EW and they did pay off over $2K But this is the only time I have seen one be worth buying. As the electrical and electronic systems get more complex the cost of repair really rise. But will the EX Company be around in 4 or 6 years I have read where many have not. No law says they really have to stay and many go belly up. Then it's go to Court and that means you hiring an Attorney with the hope you will prevail. I don't buy them but you may feel it will work for you. If you sleep better having the EX :-)
    ronm
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    For my trooper from warrantiesdirect.com IIRC. So far I've used it 1x @ $600, it picked up where the powertrain leaves off. I bought it for $1200 with zero deductable, so far it's been working well. Hopefully it will payoff.

    -mike
  • tedyatedya Member Posts: 10
    Hi everybody. I have had some work done to my LX 4x4. Replaced radiator fan assembly (its all plastic and top fan made loud noises, plastic was a bit warped), replaced front driver side air vent (fins didn't turn left and right when I moved the l/r lever), replaced rear passenger and driver side door hinges (made loud screetching sounds when opening and closing), had new grill installed (black paint started to strip, btw its all chrome underneath the black paint). I have just two more issues to fix and then I'd say its perfect. Let me tell you what I'm experiencing and see if you guys have any ideas. First, I have a constant sound coming from the car when it goes over 10mph. It kinda sounds like tires humming but its not the tires. Its not in the engine either because I get the sound when I coast with the engine off so I believe it is either one of the four wheels or the drive shaft or front/rear differentials. Its got to be something that turns or rotates when the engine is off. When my car falls below 10mph, the noise disappears. My regular dealer thinks I'm chasing a ghost so I'm going to a different dealer to have the problem diagnosed. My second and final issue is a slight belt squeeling that I get when I slightly push the accelerator from idle speed (850 rpm) to roughly 1000-1200 rpm. It doesn't squeel at idle and not above 1300 rpm. Weird, huh! Anybody have any ideas for me?
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I have the squeaking noise issue on both rear door hinges back in March. The dealer didn't put grease on it. I just sprayed some WD40 and the noise has gone. I will back to service for the bumpy ride issue again this weekend. The service manager invites me to follow up the issue since they didn't find anything problem last time. And the issue is still exist. Anyway, I am very satisfied with the Kia service which is something I don't see from Honda and Toyota.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    I just put the WeatherTech rubber mats (tan) in my Sorento yesterday. I am glad that they are all fit well without any cutting. They are heavy. It said 17 lbs on the shipping label. For the rear mats, they have the maximum floor coverage without trimming. For the driver's mat, they didn't cut it for foot rest area. I don't really care that because it covers the foot rest. It will help to the foot rest area clean. And the front passenger's mat is exactly the same shape as the stock mat. I just placed all the mats on without removing the stock mats.
  • ivan4741ivan4741 Member Posts: 24
    Question just what is wrong with the Kia floor mats? They seem pretty nice to me :-) Do you plan on having a horse or cow ride inside your Sorento?
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    How are these mats kept in place? Do they have the little nibs on the bottom or do they have a button spike to hold the mat down? Thanks
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    Well folks...Im bringing in my Sorento next week for its 15,000 mile checkup. I am having some issues with paint and brakes and wanted to know if others are having the same problems.

    On my door handles, which are painted, not chromed...the paint is starting to chip off...especially around the edges near the rubber seal. It seems to be happening on all 4 door handles..and getting worse everyday. Also...I've heard from a few here that they have had the front hood gril replaced because of excessive chipping of the black paint. Again, any comments on this and how the dealership dealt with this would be great. Thanks.

    Secondly, the brakes. I've started to get a slight vibration when braking from high speeds...in the 50-70mph range. It feels like a warped disk to me, but was wondering if tire wear could cause this? Once the vehicle slows down to 20mph...the shimmy or vibration subsides. Its not the abs, or anything like that...its a very distinct vibration through the chassis and steering wheel. This problem also seems to be getting worse almost daily.

    Im sure Kia will have no problem fixing these issues...but if anybody has had these problems...let me know. Thanks.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    invan4741 - There is absolutely nothing wrong with the stock floor mats. I just want more protection on carpeted areas from mud, snow, water or anything throws in my path. If they don't come standard on EX, I would just buy this as the same cost of the Kia caperted floor mats. Well, if you live in New England, you will see what am I talking about. Those rubber floormats at Walmart won't do the same job.

    hicaffa - I didn't pay close attention to the bottom of the mats. But they stay steady in place. You don't need to remove the stock mats. I will be even happy if they can make a rear overlap mats like Husky Liners.

    I also cleaned the leather seats with Blue Magic leather cleaner and conditioner (not 2-in-1). It won't give a vinyl or plastic shiny look after using it. It looks and smells as same as the original.
  • fmunoz1069fmunoz1069 Member Posts: 35
    My brakes were pulsating at 5k miles. I had it front and back. The dealer replaced the rotors and pads and I now have 9,700 miles and so far no problems. I would love to try to get cross drilled rotors to help keep them cooler. It the heat that warps the rotors.

    The only problem I continue to have that the dealer or KIA does not have a fix for is a shudder at acceleration. I am told that all 2wd Sorentos do it and KIA has pinpointed to the center driveshaft carrier bearing. I would like to know if anyone else is having this problem. The dealer replaced the driveshaft, trans mount and the differential and the problem is still there. Otherwise I love my truck.

    P.s I was rearended the other day by a crv that the driver forgot he had brakes and hit me at about 10mph and I only had a small scratch on my rear bumper. He busted his grille and pushed in his bumper. So I feel pretty safe in this truck.
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    ...thanks for the input. I think I might have to use your story as some backup. I was told by the dealership yesterday that the adjustment or replacement of the brakes would be my responsibility because I am past my "adjustment" period of 12,000 miles. I tell you what, if they find that my rotors are warped...or heck, any other problem with the brakes...and they try to make me pay for it...Kia is going to get a large does of my voice in their ears! I told the service guy he better be ready for a battle if they even start trying that BS with me this early into the ownership of this vehicle. I'm keeping my fingers crossed...I don't want to relieve the same problems I had with my Subaru Forester and its brakes!

    Poor little CRV...thats what happens when a little car hits a truck. The only thing that really matters is that nobody was hurt.
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    yeah! raise hell if dealership start giving you bunch of BS about brake rotors and such being your responsibility. Hyundai/Kia is on a roll now but there are still lot of people out there who question hyundai/kia long term reliability. I would hope kia wants to keep their customers happy for long time and not get in to I told you so for buying a kia syndrome.

    I really don't think kia wants to piss off a new sorento owner with brake problem this early stage. Kia is fighting a uphill battle to improve their quality image and I would think this is the last thing they want. Kia got a winner in the sorento and I hope Kia takes you seriously and take care of the brake pulsating/vibration problem with zero hassles.
  • looking4kialooking4kia Member Posts: 24
    Does anyone know, or know how I can find out, If Kia will be extending their cash back offer through July? The salesman that has been so patient with us and all our test drives is going to be out for several weeks due to a family emergency and we really like him and I dont want to start over with another salesman, not to mention I think our original salesman should get the commission from the sale.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    ends 6/30/03. But I have seen this since early spring. I think they will continue this. I am sure no one can tell you this for sure because they want you to buy it now. BTW, what trim and color that you are looking for?
  • looking4kialooking4kia Member Posts: 24
    We want the EX 2wd w/lux package. I want black 2 tone with tan. I do hope they continue the promotion through July just in case we dont get it this month. I would think they are going to be giving even more incentives soon because they should be getting in the 2004 models in a few months. It would be just my luck that would we get it and then they put out $3000 cash back or something like that. Thanks for the info!
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    It may be the good time to buy. I think the incentive will be the same if they contiune. But the price should be increased as well. It has been increased since I bought it in December. I think they offered $3000 cash back once in few months ago on new 2002 Sportage only.
  • nymphetaminenymphetamine Member Posts: 54
    ~ "Of course the ride will be stiffer and somewhat bouncy but its a truck. Those others would dare not go where the Sorento could go"

    ~ "It's a TRUCK, not a CAR like the X5, FX35, and MDX, you'll be much happier with the car-like rides of the other ones rather than the truck-like Sorento."

    You conveniently forget that a) it's not full time 4WD so most of the time your "truck" has 2WD, and b) the people who bought the 2WD model don't care about a 4WD "truck".

    ~ "As far as declining sales after the CR review, well don't worry about that."

    I'm not. But Kia is. You can now buy a Sorento for $17,995 ($1000 rebate off dealer invoice), or 0% for 5 long years.
  • drieddried Member Posts: 36
    nymp - you DO have one good point regarding the ride:
     Your words...
    "You conveniently forget that a) it's not full time 4WD so most of the time your "truck" has 2WD, and b) the people who bought the 2WD model don't care about a 4WD "truck"."

    Oh wait a minute - maybe people that have the 2WD actually LIKE the ride, even though CR says they won't? I for one don't want to drive car that feels like I'm sitting on a couch watching the TV world go by, a car that wallows around like a sinking boat. So I disagree with CR, oh well. Ride quality is so very subjective, I've read so many reviews on vehicles like this. One doesn't like the Sorento cause it doesn't drive like a Porsche, the next guy doesn't like it cause it doesn't drive enough like a truck. We can all make up our own minds.

    Take my opinion and 2 cents and you still have 2 cents.

    Happy motorin'
    --- Dave
  • princeofgolfprinceofgolf Member Posts: 5
    I'm looking for advice on how to eliminate some of those scuffs and scratches in the grey interior of our Sorento. Also, have a little "nic" on the drivers side armrest, which has exposed the foam underneath. If anyone has any ideas for repairing these two concerns would appreciate your posting.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    My wife and her rings have scuffed up and scratched areas of her Sorento, especially when she engages the seat belt that area on the center console is pretty well scuffed. What I did was just get some good good vynl protectant and rubbed it in the area. It will hide the scuffs. Try this vynl dressing, Back to Black which was made for the bumpers on cars. don't worry about the color. The dressing is cream in color and it will not change it to black. It touches up the area. As far as the nick try loacting some silicon RTV gray in color and touch up the nick.
  • tyresmokertyresmoker Member Posts: 266
    I doubt that you will see an increase..the reason: supply. These things are drying up here on the east coast. Try to find an 4x4 EX w/luxury and brakes. Forgetaboutit!
    Really decent package though. Hard to find anything wrong with it @ $27k w/all the gingerbread.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    My Trooper has AWD, and it's a truck.
    The Toyota Land Cruiser has AWD and it's a Truck.

    Not to mention all the 2wd Pickups/SUVs out there that do hauling duty (Frame is much better for towing and hauling)

    -mike
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    I see you are still misinformed. Kia is offering 0% fiancing on sorento for 24 mos, 1.9% for 36 mos, 2.9% for 48 mos, and 3.9% for 60 mos. The special financing is only for the well qualified. I suspect buyers with beacon score of at least 730 or above. The prime borrowers. There is also $1000 rebate in lieu of special financing and $1k owner loyalty.

    Come on tell us the truth. You know you want to buy the sorento but you just can't afford it. :)

    oh by the way, kia just had the best month in sales for sedona and sorento in May. Kia is not worried. Why are you worried ? Do you own stocks in Kia motors or something? :)
  • dbgindydbgindy Member Posts: 351
    Nicely done!
  • nymphetaminenymphetamine Member Posts: 54
    ~ "I see you are still misinformed."

    error 1

    ~ "Kia is offering 0% fiancing on sorento for 24 mos, 1.9% for 36 mos, 2.9% for 48 mos, and 3.9% for 60 mos."

    error 2 - Huntington KIA: 0% for 60 months

    ~ "You know you want to buy the sorento but you just can't afford it. :)"

    error 3 - sorento is the cheapest on my list :)

    ~ "kia just had the best month in sales for sedona and sorento in May. Kia is not worried."

    error 4 - Check June and July numbers when they are released :)
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    you have such anti sorento view and its on your list? Yeah sure :) we know you want one but you just can't afford it. Jealousy is such an ugly emotion.
  • ivan4741ivan4741 Member Posts: 24
    I have no problem with owning my Kia Sorento and parking it in my driveway I have seen many people driving other SUVs costing thousands more looking closely at it. As everyone is getting in to designing and building SUVs just to cash in on the demand. It's a good feeling to not be paying over $20K US for a quality SUV.
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    ...I've battled with you, I've argued with you, we have exchanged data, stats, quotes and driving impressions. Oh, wait, thats right...I was the one that had the driving impression...not you.

    Anyway...do us all a favor, please don't buy a Kia Sorento. You don't deserve one.

    Your friend, Mark.
  • dalancroftdalancroft Member Posts: 32
    Let's keep things congenial, shall we? Like me, nymphetamine is wrestling with a ton of data involving a number of vehicles in an extremely hotly contested market segment. Without having driven one but having gazed long and lovingly at a few, I love so much about the Sorento -- looks, fit 'n' finish, interior quality and amenities, a terrific list of options for the $$$ -- but will probably end up elsewhere due to concerns over gas mileage (-3 to -5 MPG vs. competitors, even those with 25-45 more HP), body-on-frame weight and ride vs. unibody, storage space and resale value. The low price, great warranty and off-road capability may tip the balance in Sorento's favor for some people and not for others.

    Nymph., what are some of the other vehicles on your list? My comparo seems to be coming down to:

    -Acura MDX (used; pricey but loaded; a little bigger than what I want but we're a growing family whose friends are also growing families so the 3rd row seat is appealing)
    -Toyota Highlander (used; hard to find with all the options I want; large but no 3rd row seat; good handling but limited off-road capability)
    -Lexus RX300 (used; a bit smaller than the previous two; a little expensive but coming down in price; highest WAF factor in looks; luxury features, amenities and ride but limited off-road capability)
    -Sorento (new, advantages & disadvantages listed above)

    P.S. If it were up to me alone I'd walk into my local Kia dealer and drive away with a loaded-to-the-gills Sorento, but my wife's concerns are valid and since our other car is a very nice Audi A4 with the sports package, V-6, and a few key performance mods, I want something SHE'LL want to drive so that I can get the keys to "Greta" once in a while! ;-)
  • dbgindydbgindy Member Posts: 351
    Yours seems to be a different situation than nymph's. You seem to be looking at the Sorento seriously while it just seems to me that nymph while saying he wants a Sorento just seems to try and bait a fight with every posting. For someone who is thinking about a Sorento he sure bashes Kia at every turn. :-)
    You've made very well reasoned posts in this forum both pro & con about the Sorento and as far as I can tell everyone has thought they have been giving you info to make an informed decision on your purchase. If you choose another vehicle I don't think any of the folks here would be ticked one bit because you've obviously put a lot of thought into it. With nymph all I've seen the last 3 months is all attack all the time. If he doesn't think the Kia is right for him more power to him but if it isn't why in the world would you keep coming back. To change the minds of Sorento owners? To try and sway folks like yourself on the fence?
     I don't know nor at this point do I care. I just do what I do with all "haters" and put him on my ignore list. Just a personal preference under the life is too short category. :-)

    Lastly to ivygrn. As I've said before you are one of the posters who pushed me off the fence into buying a Sorento and I again just want to say thanks to you and all the other regulars who helped that decision along. As to your last post all I can say is YOU DA MAN! :-)
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    I share the same sentiments as dbgindy. You are actively comparing pros and cons which vehicle to buy. There is nothing wrong with that. I think we all go thru that when we are shopping for a new vehicle. However with nymphetamine, he/she is just looking for a fight by keep hanging around in this forum.

    Look at the comment like "0% for 5 long years." My reply to that is. Wow!! is this something new we have not heard before? Where has this joker been for the past 2 years
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The topic is the Sorento, not each other. If you don't want to engage in conversation with another member, the scroll wheel on your mouse works great.

    Steve, Host
  • looking4kialooking4kia Member Posts: 24
    I'm still fairly new to this board and don't post that often, but Nymph has been a thorn in my side. I come onto this board to get info and I enjoy reading the posts but Nymph puts people in a position where they have to defend themselves and it's exhausting. I'll say again that I have not yet purchased the Sorento (1 more week!) but I can honestly say that Nymph's contributions have been unwelcome at best (as far as I'm concerned). I wish him luck in his car shopping and I hope he will realize that most of us don't care what the numbers are because we are happy no matter what!
  • looking4kialooking4kia Member Posts: 24
    Sorry Steve...we are just a lil passionate!
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    Im glad Im not the only one getting exhausted with Nymph. I realize I come across as harsh at times...but I've been very passionate about the Kia Sorento since the day I bought it.

    Maybe a lot of us are like this...but I knew the day I purchased the Kia, I was putting myself in line for a lot of criticism and backhanded slaps uspside the head. But the best way I could prepare myself for that was to be as educated as possible...to know the facts, every one of them down to the detail. I guess this is why I feel like I need to defend my decision to purchase the Kia.

    Steve, I'm sorry to have taken the topic to another level that is not wanted here. But Nymph, in my opinion, is attacking all of us in a way. So I felt like I needed to respond. But with that, I will drop the topic all together.

    dbgindy - you crack me up man!
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    If one is going to attack, one should not be surprised if they get attacked back. :)
  • looking4kialooking4kia Member Posts: 24
    Ok let's talk about my upcoming purchase! The salesman we have been working with is very very nice and we have built a good relationship with him. He has been very patient through our decision making....I called to ask him the rebate question and they informed me that he had a family emergency :( and would be out for several weeks. The problem? The rebate, to my knowledge, is only through the end of June and he won't be back until July sometime. Not only that, I feel like he has invested alot of time with us and he should be the one to receive the commission. And the real issue I have? It's so hard to find a nice salesman that's not pushy! the dealership seems nice enough but some of the salesppl are a little scary. So, do you think if we did work with someone else (we dont want to miss out on the rebate) they would give the commission to our original salesman? Or should we risk waiting until July when he gets back? I want the car now (obviously) but I can wait if need be. What do you guys/gals think?
  • nymphetaminenymphetamine Member Posts: 54
    Thats why people trust them, know them, and use their unbiased reviews across USA. Thats why the numbers will fall and the depreciation will be even worse. Whether your "passion" can handle that, or not.

    ~ "Nymph., what are some of the other vehicles on your list?"

    Isuzu Rodeo ($5,000 less than Sorento)

    Infiniti FX35 ($5,000 more than Sorento)
  • hollier1hollier1 Member Posts: 22
    It has been a while since I have visited this site. I purchased a Sorento EX/Lux pkg. for my wife who has owned numerous "luxury vehicles". She and I love the ride and it looks real good parked in front of our $400K home. Our neighbors who own Lexus, Benz, etc. love it and are considering Sorento for their next purchase. Why buy a Sorento? Automobiles depriciate fast, real fast. The Sorento is an excellent bang for the buck mode of transportation. Put most of your money in things that appreciate and the least in things that depriciate. My 2 cents.....
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hmm I'm a HUGE isuzu fan. I run http://Isuzu-suvs.com and run the Isuzu owner's club here on Edmunds.

    You want a car-like ride but are considering the Rodeo? What gives? That is as much a truck as the Sorento. It has better reliability ratings cause it's been around longer, but does not offer AWD at all, only PT4wd which won't help you on the road.

    I love the Rodeo and the Sorento, but how is the Infiniti FX35 falling in there? I am not sure what gives here.

    On the CR issue, the problem with them not being car-folks is that they don't test them properly, for instance they count a failed transmission or engine in the same statistic as say returning to a dealer for a trim piece replacement. What would you rather have? A piece of trim come loose or a tranny failure?

    -mike
  • june24june24 Member Posts: 9
    Since you are a fan of Trooper, can you tell us what you think about these raved-about trucks? In terms of offroad capability, interior comfort, features and ride quality. Is Sorento's ride better than Trooper, the latter is notorious about the high gavity and lateral shift when cornering.
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    nymphetamine said in message #2580..."error 3 - sorento is the cheapest on my list :)"

    now he/she says isuzu is on the list which cost 5k less than the sorento. HMMMM
  • tyresmokertyresmoker Member Posts: 266
    Nice one, I was holding back, waiting for you to fall on your sword. How on the planet could you group an FX, Sorrento and a 10 year old Rodeo in the same comparision? Talk about depreciation, Isuzu has one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel in this country. What is going to happen to your warranty when they pull out? GM going to step in? Probably the same way they are bailing out Daywoo owners.
    You come in here shooting your keyboard off about CR and their latest studies etc.
    Aware of the oil pump problems in the Rodeo? I helped a buddy of mine get his repowered courtesy of Isuzu last year because the motor prematurely let go. Dealer told him off the record that it is not the first time they had seen this happen.
    The Sorento is a hell of a deal. Fit and finish is almost second to none in this price range. The one drawback is the fuel mileage, but you cannot have both, a solid piece of steel around you and 30 mpg.
    depreciation in general? Deal with it. As long as supply is greater than demand, there will always be rapid depreciation. Vehicles are not investments, they are products that we buy to use, and once we are tired of them, or their service life has expired, we get rid of them for a replacement.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Good point!
  • ivygrnsorentoivygrnsorento Member Posts: 119
    A CR pundit eh? Well, heres a little excerp on that Rodeo you so covet...

    ..................................
    "Overview: Early Rodeo models offer generous passenger room but limited cargo space. These SUVs deliver disappointing performance, with sloppy handling, a stiff ride, and considerable body lean. The 3.2-liter V6 introduced in 1993 is a big improvement over the inefficient 3.1-liter V6 it replaced. In 1996, the Rodeo's part-time 4WD system was upgraded to a shift-on-the-fly design, and the engine gained more horsepower. Redesigned for 1998, the Rodeo improved in nearly every way, with more power and increased interior comfort. The ride, however, remains stiff and bouncy."

    .............................

    Hmmm....sloppy handling, bouncy, stiff ride. I thought these were all qualities that you didn't want in a SUV.

    I think if you were truly looking at a used MDX, X5, and FX35, you should stick with those vehicles. Though I would suggest you look at the X5 posts...sounds like people have had many issues with the BMW.
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