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2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Putting studded snows on the rear so that you do not have to power up the front end is some of the strangest logic I have read on these boards in quite some time. Those studded snows will also play havoc on your ABS controls (if equipped) as well.
another thing, if my studded tires help me stop better and not engaging the ABS in icy conditions, how is that hurting the ABS? Logic?
what have you got in that pipe smokey? thanks for your input anyways!
You bought a car with 4x4...use it. You bought a car with ABS...try using that as well.
Studded snows...gees...what's next, tire chains?
Folks. Try to go to some dirt roads and put it in 4WD maybe once per month if you don't do any off-roading. It is a 4WD SUV.
This evening, I had for the first time of my life an accident. I will write below what happened... in French. It's a little difficult for me to write the whole story in english. I know that maybe some of you speak french (i.e. jdesjardins) so maybe someone can translate ? Here we go...
Il était environ 6:30pm. Je roulais environ 60-70 km/h (désolé, je ne sais pas ce que ça donne en miles à l'heure) sur la rue enneigée lorsque je vis à ma droite un individu dans un véhicule sur l'accotement. Je vois celui-ci sortir sa tête par la fenêtre comme pour voir s'il y avait des automobiles qui s'envenait... et je le vois partir ! Je le vois désirant faire un " U-Turn " !! Je peux vous dire que j'ai foutu les breaks en maudit. Malheureusement, même avec de très bons pneus d'hiver et le système 4x4, je lui ai rentré dedans. Il était en plein milieu de la rue, horizontal à moi. Ça a faissé. Je lui ai rentré dans sa porte avant.
J'ai rien eu et l'autre individu non plus. C'est ce qui est important. Mais il reste que mon bébé ( mon Sorento
Une chose que je suis très déçu, c'est que mon coussin gonflable ne s'est pas déploiyé ! Après avoir réussi à contacter le patron de ma concession Kia, celui-ci m'as informé que maintenant les coussins gonflables se déploient lorsque la force de l'impact est vraiment important. C'est quand même bizzare qu'à 60-70 km/h que le coussin gonflable ne s'est pas déploiyé !
J'ai fais remorquer mon Sorento chez mon dealer. Je devrais avoir plus de nouvelles au début de la semaine prochaine.
Je vais prendre quelques photos en fin de semaine pour vous montrer les dégats.
Je vais terminer en disant ceci.... Mettez toujours votre ceinture de sécurité !
Ah oui, aussi, j'ai eu la peur de ma vie!
Again, I'm sorry for the french but my english is not 100%. I'm sure that someone will be able to translate.
Une chose que je suis très déçu, c'est que mon coussin gonflable ne s'est pas déploiyé !
Your airbags should certainly have deployed at those speeds. This sounds like a very serious problem. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
tidester, host
Maybe because of my bumber guard ?
http://www.powow.com/mysorento/june2003/kia-sorento-1.jpg
Anyway, I will call Kia Canada next monday to have an answer from them.
I had anything and the other individual either. It is what is important. But it remains that my baby (my Sorento:) ) is not badly ammoché. All the front is broken and the with dimensions right of my truck is in sorry state too. Under the force of the impact, the with dimensions right of my vehicle was struck against the dimensioned conducting one of the other vehicle.
A thing that I am very disappointed, it is that my inflatable cushion was not déploiyé! After having succeeded in contacting the owner of my concession Kia, this one informed me that maintaining the cushions inflatable spread themselves when the force of the impact is really important. It is nevertheless bizzare which with 60-70 km/h that the inflatable cushion did not déploiyé!
I have make tow my Sorento at my dealer. I should have more news at the beginning of the next week.
I will take some photographs in weekend to show you the dégats.
I will finish by saying this.... Always put your belt of safety!
Ah yes, also, I had the fear of my life!
Just thought I'd help out. Sorry about what happened, Slan. It hurts to be without vehicle. It always happens when you need it most!
I wonder if Kia can put the 3.8 liter turbo charged 280 HP engine in the sorento?
Slan the important thing is you are okay!!!!!
Duncan
He made a u-turn in front of me forcing me to slam on the breaks.
Unfortunately even with 4wd and good tires I rammed into him, broadside in his front driver side door.
Neither driver was hurt except for my baby..my Sorento !! which got pretty busted up. The front and right side get pretty banged up as I rammed his left front door !
One thing which really annoyed me was the fact the air bags did not inflate . After checking with my Kia dealer the reply was that the air bags only inflate when the impact is "really important" !
I found it kind of strange that air bags would not deploy for a head on crash at 40 mph ??
I had the Soreonto towed to the dealer and will know more about the damages next week
I will be taking a few pictures to show you the damages
All I can had is WEAR YOUR SEAT BELTS !!!!
and yes I got the scare of my life !
PS to SLAN CANADA.....I think this needs a complaint to TRANSPORT CANADA or NTSB or somebody
if the dealer explanation on the air bags is not supported by Kia headquarters or some Gov. agancy capable of clarifying this isuue.
IF Kia air bags don't go off with head on collisions at 40 mph we ALL need to now when they will go off!
no offense to other translator BORED.. if you used a software to do it... it had a few skips!!
:-)
I suppose it is possible. That topic has come up a few times in the Town Hall. Try using the "advanced search" feature which you will find in the left column of this page.
tidester, host
I will let you know at the begining of next week what happen with Kia Canada about the air bags.
If I'm not satisfied with the Kia Canada response; doing a complaint to TRANSPORT CANADA can be a good idea. Thanks for letting me know about this one!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
KMP---to MPH just multiply by .6 70kph x.6= 42 mph
or use the 5 and 8 rule
kmph /8 x 5 = mph
for kmh to mph
mph/5 X 8 = kmph and close enough
or buy a calculator !! I wish we could end this silly kmh and MPH
squabble
we should all use KMPH :-)
As for the engine, Rumor has it that the 3.5L is being dumped for a higher displacement engine anyway. The same 3.8L engine that's in the Mojave, without the turbocharger. It MIGHT end up in the Sorento, Amanti and Sedona in 2005. Expect VVT and all other sorts of technologies that these buyers are hooked on.
And hey! I'm 16, not 20! :-)
jdesjardins, yes, I used software. I may live 20 minutes from Canada, but I don't know a bit of French, nor do I know anyone who speaks it.
slan_canada, "I found it kind of strange that air bags would not deploy for a head on crash at 40 mph ??"
Honestly, I'm not surprised. Could you have possibly been traveling slower than 40-35MPH? I have heard in the past, that airbags do not inflate until the 40MPH or more IF the CONDITIONS are PERFECT. The bumper guard could have affected the sensors. However, we do not know whether an airbag could have done any good. Could have made it worse... The good thing is that you are okay, and the Sorento really is one tough truck.
But the air bag thing is of concern. I am slowly modifying my Sorento for some off road use, and I was going to have a front bumper gaurd type of thing custom made, and I had thought about what effect that might have on the airbag sensor
don't trust those thing much as you saw with my own version..
je lui ai rentré dans sa porte avant
means ....litterally
I entered him in his front door which means....
I ploughed.. or rammed right into his front
door
not.. "I returned to him in his front door"
I guess most of you readers got the jist of it when you read the software translated version but for goodness sake don't ever use one of those SW translators to do anything of a professionnal nature like advertising or translating instruction manuals and that applies vice versa. Either way (F-E or E-F) those softwares are only good to give you a sense of things. !
Of course, for some really big bucks they'll sell you their professional versions which are much more accurate and faithful to linguistic nuances.
tidester, host
I just updated my website.
See the pics @ http://www.powow.com/mysorento/
Duncan
Slan, it sounds like your Kia service manager is going to treat you right in getting your Sorento back on the road again...I would go in there repeatedly and hound them for updates constantly..don't be harassing but be diligent in seeing that everything's getting the fine tooth comb treatment...that is too nice of an SUV to sit crumpled up in a body shop for a long time. Hang in there, buddy...I'm hoping for a quick recovery period for ya!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Now... a few observations. Go to this link. This is what a 40mph crash looks like. http://www.nhtsa.com/NCAP/Cars/2422.html
Now granted. This Sorento is hitting a brick wall that is protected with a material that is suppose to simulate a crash with another vehicle. But based on the account here, and seeing your vehicles damage, there is, in my mind, no way you were going 30-40 mph. I would guess you were going 15-20 mph at most. At this speed, the decelerator and impact sensors on your Sorento most likely didn't sense a large enough impact or deceleration. Thus, no airbag deployed.
This past summer I was the passenger in a Ford F250 truck that went off a road here in colorado. We hit a tree head on at about 30 mph. The impact was surprisingly less impactful than what I would have thought... especially seeing those trees coming at us after loosing control going around a very very tight turn. Anyway, the airbags did not deploy in this case either. But the seatbelts kept both of us from coming anywhere near the dashboard or windshield. I wear eye glasses, so I was very happy the airbags did not deploy. But the accident in my opinion did not warrant the airbags to deploy. And believe me, the damage to my brothers truck was much much worse that yours.
I think the auto industry has mislead most of the car buying population about airbags. I think a lot of us still have this misunderstanding about how the new improved airbags work. They are much more sophisticated than they were just 5 years ago. When a airbag deploys, it causes thousand of dollars of damage to the dash, door, headliner. Insurance companies were loosing their asses everytime a person rear ended someone at 20mph that caused $3000 of damage to the body, and another $2000 of damage to the interior. Get in a bumper to bumper crash, and suddenly your insurance company is dropping you or your rates are going through the roof!
Anyhoo... again. I'm sorry to see what happened to you and your Sorento. And I hope they shop can breathe some new life into your truck and make it look as fantastic as it had before the crash. But in the end, it does not surprise me that that airbags did not go off.
Thanks for your comments on my Sorento. About my Alloy wheels, I got them removed just before winter. I want to protect them from salt found on roads during winter season.
ivygrnsorento...
I talked to some peoples today: Kia dealer, my insurance company, Kia Canada. All of them seem to think the same thing as you. Your message describe what Kia Canada told me today. I talked about 30 minutes with them and what I learned, is that there are many many many criterias for an Air Bag to deploy. Now, I can tell that I'm happy that my Air Bag did not deploy. Apparently, air bags deployment -can- cause physical damages to the person.
BTW, I had a call today... My Sorento have $9500 of damages ( Canadian dollars
I'm leasing a 2000 Honda Civic. I don't like infidelity, I don't like driving cars !!!
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#3259 of 3266 iluvmysephia1 by slan_canada Feb 14, 2004 (9:27 pm)
You are right... it was about 35-45 mph (when I saw the other SUV (a old jeep cherokee) moving in the street i.e. doing the U-Turn). What I don't know is what was the speed of my truck when I hit the other truck (since I put on the brakes when I saw the guy moving); but I know that the collision
was fast and tough. The street was full of snow and maybe some ice.
Upon impact, yes, I feel relatively safe. I felt a great pressure of my belt of safety against my body (thanks to Altavista's Translator for this phrase
When I asked to the guy why he did a " U-Turn " on the street (illegal BTW); he responded to me that he never saw me coming. I told to myself: "I'm sure that he saw me but didn't want to tell me the true". My Headlights was on and my fogs was also ON. I was very visible. What I
believe is that the guy say to himself: "I have time to pass". He did not know how to estimate my speed. And you know what happened.
Friday evening, maybe 2 hours after the accident, I called the Kia dealership Boss at his home. He was very sad for me. He talk to me with professionalism; even if he was not in business (he was at his home !). I asked to him if he was able to give me a car for the weekend... his response was: "SURE!"
I took some pics today. I will post them tomorrow.
Thanks for reading.
You said that the guy perhaps couldn't estimate your speed and thought he might have time. I seem to get this alot too. People pull out in front of me as if I were invisible. I have no idea how they cannot see a large dark blue vehicle coming towards them. I have often wondered if they really did see me and thought that I was going alot slower. I also think sometimes that they see a nice vehicle coming and figure that I will not HIT them. I am very greatful for good brakes!
~Karen~
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I purchased Easy Translator 4 Deluxe for $9 at Sam's Club. I tried just once or twice using the Japanese translator, it looks funny, but at least you get the meaning of the text. I agree, you can't rely on that for professional writing, it will make you look stupid and the people you are writing may get mad because you don't show them proper respect.
Slan...I relative of mine had a Nissan Passport and was involved in a broad side some what to yours and he was doing about 40mph and the air bafs did not inflate. The dealer told him that becasue he had a bumper guard installed it can protect the bumper to the point where the sensors are protected from the impact thus they didn't actuate the bags. He went back to the installer and his remark was " oh by the way the air bags may not inflate..." he read the warranty issued with the gaurds and there it was. He was out of luck.
By the eay our Sorento prefromed flawlessly on the Garden Stat Pkway. Keeping up with all the traffic and enough get up and go to pass when needed. Funny we sould be driving along and pass a Lexus or a Highlander and you could feel the distaion of being passed by A KIA!!!! then they would catch up to us and give us a look over. The Sorento was great in the white out snow storm they had Tuesday night. Only wish the gas mileage was better. WeE averaged about 19.5 mpg for our trip.
Do you mean a Nissan Pathfinder or Honda Passport ? No such thing as a Nissan Passport. Also, experts say that air bags are designed to depoly in an accident of "significant magnitude".
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I don't think that brand new cars need steam cleaning or engine shampoo in their first few years of ownership. Not likely that you've had oil leaks or blown coolant lines that have sprayed stuff all around the engine bay. Today my Pathfinder is exactly 11 months old and I spent most of yesterday doing some 'spring cleaning' mostly vacuuming the interior and washing out the wheel wells (you'd be surprised how much sand came out from under there, and I'm sure there was some salt in there too), then I remembered your message here and popped the hood open. Basically the engine is dusty, so I think the best way to clean it, and keeping it clean, is to use a sponge and wipe it clean. You can also add some degreaser to your bucket of water. Today's engines are awkward and complicated, there's just to much stuff in there for anyone to get it nice and clean, and you're right about water & wires, I don't think engines are completly waterproof. I'm sure all the electrical connectors have rubber seals to help keep any liquids out, but I still wouldn't want anyone spraying water in there...you just never know where it might get into.
Also, as we all know, Sorento is much more price comparable than all of them!
Sorento Rocks!
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Toyota Tacoma TRD
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Toyota Tundra
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Land Rover Discovery
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Lexus GX470
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Land Rover Freelander
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Kia Sorento
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VW Touareg
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2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Just curious, it sounds like you don't own a Sorento, but you really like it a lot. Do you plan to buy one? or do you work for Kia, or perhaps you work for Kia dealer?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
-mike