Subaru Crew Cafe

rsholland

this site is a gold mine!

http://www.tocmp.com/

Ed, there are Studebaker brochures here too!

Bob

lark6

Nice find, Bob.

I have that '63 full-line brochure. My car looks very much like the one pictured at page 12.

Studebaker also issued a small glovebox guide to women buyers called "Girl Meets Lark" or some such. I have a copy and by modern standards it's amazingly sexist. I'll have to dig it out and offer some examples. IIRC one of its hints was, in the event of a flat tire, to "stand by the side of the road and look helpless." I kid you not.

Ed

rsholland

Man, I'm in heaven!

http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Chrysler/1946/TC/pages/1946%20Chrysler%20Town%20&%20Country- - - -01_jpg.htm

I had no idea that so many different versions of the T&C were offered!

Bob

rob_m

This is like way totally cool! I have always been a fan of the early 70's Chrysler products, especially the Darts, Demons and Cuda's. What a trip down memory lane. Thanks Bob! Rob M.

rsholland

You're more than welcome Rob. This site was just too good not to share with everyone, whether they have an interest in old cars or not.

Besides being able to fill in a lot of gaps in my own knowledge and interest, I find these brochures, etc., interesting because I'm a graphic designer, and as such, I'm also looking at this stuff somewhat as a design history buff.

Look how the brochures have evolved over the years, from a design standpoint. The early brochures relied heavily on illustrations, and not photography to show the vehicles. Many of those illustrations were deliberately exaggerated, as the cars look much longer and wider than they really were. Page layout was primitive and very simple as compared to today's page design; same with typography. Obviously printing methods today allow for more complexity, but that doesn't really address the design of the brochures. By today's design standards, many of those brochures are just truly awful, but you can't judge these by current design standards. You have to understand them in the context of history, just as you would any other historical artifact.

Bob

fibber2

Bob,

What a wonderful site!

OK, secret admission.... I probably have a few thousand car brochures filed away in plastic tubs in my basement. I have been visiting dealers and grabbing as many as I could carry since the mid 70's. I was amazed at how many of the ones on their site I have (and how many I could probably contribute once I find the time...).

More than once I have considered trying to list some on e-bay, but I cannot part with them! I guess you could call that an addiction?

Steve

bat1161

Bob,

Thanks for the link. This site brought back a lot of memory's as I found the brouchure for the first car I learned to drive on: a 1966 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. The pictures even showed the desk/footrest I remember from a kid.

The only thing - I could not find anything for a Triumph Spitfire.

Mark

ateixeira

But do you say "BRO-em" or "bro-HAMM"?

-juice

robr2

Bro - Uhm

ateixeira

bat1161

Just say " Caddy" :shades:

rsholland

Subie Sport magazine. Way to go Jamie!

http://www.jamie-thomas.com/

Bob

bat1161

I have a question regarding towing for you folks, and I figured with all the suggestions/questions we are giving SOA someone here should hopefully know.

My nephew has a 2002 Mercury Grand Marquis, towing a 8ft box trailer. He wants to keep it in my garage for a bit. Right now when he pulls into and out of my driveway the bottom of the hitch and the bottom of where the trailer "leg" in front is, scrape a portion of my driveway. He has had the heavy duty springs put in in the back. Does anyone have any suggestion to help prevent the scraping occurring?

I appreciate the help.

Mark

ateixeira

Does he have a 3rd wheel? Bob's trailer, which I borrow about once a year, had a 3rd wheel we insert to facilitate moving it around.

-juice

bat1161

He's thinking of that. Right now, he just backs right up to the house so no one can get into the trailer. THankfully he is scratching the regular concrete, and not the Stampcrete. Otherwise he'd be dead .

Mark

rsholland

I have that, which I use to manuever my trailer around in my driveway. I remove that wheel when I'm towing, however.

When I pull in the driveway, I put that tongue wheel on, then unhitch the trailer, and push it wherever I want.

Bob

bat1161

Bob & Juice. I figured you folks would know a lot better than I would. I'll pass along the info. He's going to be storing it in my garage starting next month so it will be easy to move around.

BTW - can he back into the driveway with that wheel on, or does he have to unhitch from the car first?

Mark

kens

I think it's a shared cost since the dealer has to choose to participate.

Don't other car manufacturers offer something like this? I think it's a great idea if it's implemented correctly. You want to be able to offer the program to serious buyers to whom a 24 hr test drive would make the deal.

Ken

ateixeira

Bob's has a fishing-rod-like handle that you twist to raise and lower it, to make it easy to get it at the right height for mounting. The wheel comes off when you tow.

See if I have a pic showing that, probably not...

No but here's a pic of my dog for the fun of it.

Imagine moving that load around without a 3rd wheel!

-juice

rsholland

Depends on how steep your driveway is. I can't do it on mine. I did so accidentally when I first got the trailer, and the tongue wheel hit the pavement where the driveway meets the road, and the trailer popped off the hitch! Thank goodness for the safety chains, as that was the only thing keeping the trailer attached to my Explorer.

Bob

rsholland

sounds very promising.

http://www.mixedpower.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=632

Bob

grahampeters

G'day

Usually you can overcome the problem with a couple of planks for the car rear wheels to run over. What you are after is reducing the radius of the curve across the gutter. It sounds wierd but frequently, you achive this by raising the height a foot or two out from the gutter rather than right in it. Play around a bit. Usually only needs about 1" by 3' long board 6" wide.

Cheers

Graham

locke2c

I definitely agree with GM's concept that a truck/SUV has far more to gain from hybrid technology than a small car, but I'm very curious to see how they pull it off.

~Colin

bat1161

Juice-

I have to say, even though it has been said before, but Hadji really looks like a cat. This from an owner of two cats .

Mark

ateixeira

njswamplands

ateixeira

That is where I got the name. Nice catch.

He's my side kick, like Hadji was to Johnny Quest.

-juice

locke2c

lol, but Hadji was a kid. the dog was named Bandit!

:P

njswamplands

ateixeira

Actually his fur looks more like the boy (Hadji) than the dog (Bandit), who was white with a black eye IIRC.

I can hear the theme music now...ta DA ta DA dah, ta DA ta Da dah

-juice

p0926

:P

ladywclass

You know .. I loved that show, but don't you have to wonder about a really hunky man named 'race' who hung out with 2 young boys ALL the time????

Karen_S

Yep...I was a fan too. Has anyone seen "Venture Brothers"? It's a parody of Jonny Quest and hilarious! http://www.thetick.ws/vbros.htm

And here's a bit of useless trivia about the show: Tim Matheson (then known as Tim Mathieson) was the voice of Jonny. Years later he portrayed "Otter" in Animal House. :surprise:

ateixeira

Which man would that be? Not me. LOL

-juice

rsholland

Subaru below industry average. Bummer...

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2005-06-29-power-dependability-chart.htm

Bob

rsholland

http://www.drive.subaru.com/CurrentIssue.htm

njswamplands

those things are so stupid without details. are the owners complaining about wind noise or engine failure in their issues????

this is were consumer reports is so much better as one can look at the areas of failure. without this info, it is worthless to me.

rsholland

http://www.media.subaru.com./

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/07/01/136424.html

rsholland

http://www.subaru.com.au/news/?newsid=12271

rsholland

http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050705.004

ateixeira

They need to advertise it more to pick up the pace. The aim is for 2500-3000 per month. The other models are on a roll, though.

Honda's hybrid sounds a lot like HSD.

-juice

rsholland

Tribeca national ad campaign starts July 11 I believe.
Bob

bigelm

Out of all places, right here in the south... I-75 heading south towards Atlanta.

Creative slogan: Leave other SUV's in the dust.

Couldn't they have come up with something alittle more creative, sheesh! :rolleyes:

rsholland

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/07/05/136886.html

rsholland

The TV spot which juice and I saw at the SOA Tribeca Ride-&-Drive showed a Tribeca passing a traditional SUV, and upon passing, the other SUV disintegrated into dust, hence the tagline.

Bob

kens

Wow, Buick and Lincoln all the way up there?

There's clearly room for improvement with Subaru!

Ken

bigelm

If they would've captured that SUV shot then it could've been alittle entertaining. But just showing a side shot of the B9 and the tag line is boring to any consumer.

Oh well... :shrug:

rsholland

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102704

rsholland

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0507/08/0auto-241589.htm

robr2

I gotta chuckle at that. So 9,000 new hybrids are responsible for complete and total congestion of HOV lanes in VA?? Gimme a break. I've seen those lanes south of DC and I kind of doubt hybrids are the problem.

I see the net effect of the 2 folks listed as 45 less minutes of actual driving and polluting time. In reality, the net envrionmental improvement is probably greater than that.