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  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    OSX FTW!!!!

    ...sorry got carried away.

    Ken
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I dunno if any of my PCs can even run Vista!

    -mike
  • terry92270terry92270 Member Posts: 1,247
    Time to buy a new one then. Ten years, you've gotten your monies worth! :P
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,398
    OSX at home...windoze at work & at church. It takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r to force quit a program in windoze!!!!!

    Jim
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Still XP SP2 here. We don't adopt things until they've been tested in the real world for a while. Plus I have to use what all my users have so I can support them.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Just wanted to throw out this idea to the crew. Thinking of taking AZPInstalls to a full time gig for myself. Mostly focusing on Subaru aftermarket parts and installs. Both live and via the internet. I know there are tons of you out there who own your own businesses etc. So looking for ideas, input, etc.

    As many of you know currently I'm working in a rut of a job, that while it pays well, is way too demanding 10-12hr days, overnights Sun-Thurs, oh and in a field that I totally hate! So now that I'm married, I'm thinking that now is a chance to break from the routine work for the man dealio and go for it. Worst case after a year if it doesn't work out, I can always look for an IT job at that point. Oh this would also give me more time to run my Computer Consulting company that I also do on the side.

    Thinking of focusing on the following areas:
    Carputer/Navigation Installs
    Subaru Security Items (which we currently do)
    Bolt on installs
    Tuning
    Auto-x/Race car preping

    Let me know your thoughts, ideas, etc. Items to look out for that one might not think of when starting up their own biz.

    The good thing is we already have a faily good rep in the Subaru community as we've been doing part-time installs since 2001 when the WRX first hit the streets. We have an unholy following who are always eager to support us. Downside, is of course 90% of small businesses fail in the first year!

    Anyway thoughts and ideas needed.

    If you have anything you can't share publically e-mail me to paisan@azpinstalls.com

    Thanks crew!

    -mike
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    A few suggested ground rules:

    Develop a really good business plan, refine and refine it.

    Set yourself some key decision points where you analyse whether the business is going well - maybe six months, one year, two years, five years. Make sure you have an exit strategy.

    Build a big stash of cash before you commence as you will lose money for at least the first year or more - undercapitalisation is one of the prime causes of business failure

    Get a sympathetic domestic partner with a steady income to support you and at least keep baked beans on the table when you lose your shirt

    Talk to your accountant, lawyer, insurance broker and banker before making the jump into business. Talk with them regularly.

    Develop a basic knowledge of accounting.

    Make sure your pricing structure is correct and cross check to competitors. Do not aim to be cheap, rather figure where you want to price the service/product and aim there consistently.

    Keep really tight control on the finances, take out monthly accounts and monitor cash flow and profitability continually. If things turn bad, on either count, make the tough decisions fast and bale out before you blow the house.

    Keep very tight reins on credit, both given and recieved.

    Do not let stocks grow - check them daily and discount anything that is slow moving. Set targets for stock turnover and kill any product lines that do not shift rapidly.

    Read about the key operating ratios for your business sector and monitor your performance against them. They might be things like sales per employee, stock turnover, days debtors outstanding or the like. They vary from indusry to industry but will be fairly constant across your business sector

    Understand any seasonal factors in your chosen market

    Keep some balance in your life with an interest outside the business.

    Work the business as you would a day job. Check the hours you are putting in and expect to be doing 65-80 hours per week in the first couple of years to make it work

    Join a local business association, attend their functions and trade experiences with other business owners.

    See if you can pick up a business mentor locally who can offer advice when you strike new problems.

    Pray a lot??

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Hey Mike, Graham pretty said it all... I say go for it, as you're young and don't have any kids yet.

    The only other thing I might add is to find a way to separate yourself from your competitors. Why would somebody go to you rather than "company X?" And don't just say because we're better, because everyone says that. Find a unique market niche and/or a special quality that you offer that can exploited better than your competitors.

    Also, find out who your main competitors are, what they offer and don't offer, so as you can find ways in which you can position yourself differently from them.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Thanks guys, appreciate the input. We've always been different in that we are a homey type business where folks can come out and hang even if their car isn't being worked on. Also we don't up-sell folks on crap they don't want or need. Amazingly there is really only 1 competitor in the area and they are down the Shore which is at least 50+ miles away. On top of it all, we are friendly with them and actually send out our bigger jobs to them and consult with them when we have issues. My biggest fear is keeping costs down and being able to offer a large selection.

    -mike
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    mike,

    Lots of good advice already mentioned here. The one thing I would recommend you think through is the business model.

    One aspect is to how to turn your customers into an annuity business. The part and component installations, I'm guessing, tend to be one-time jobs and unless you have customers with deep pockets and fanatic about mods, you'll maybe get only a few touchpoints with each. That means that you are constantly needing to attract new business. You may want to see how you can tap into a specific need that causes a customer to return to you -- tuning, consultancy, etc.

    Another is customer segmentation -- ask yourself who your target customers are and what problem of theirs you are trying to solve. Many business fall into the trap of trying to be everything to everyone.

    One last one is to find that niche that can't easily be copied by others. By targeting Subarus you've already started down that path, but you need to find that something more that distinguishes you from other Subaru tuners and installers. Using some classic business model analysis, you need to chose what you're going to focus on: customer intimacy (ie. really catering to the needs of a few targeted customers), operational excellence (ie. you can get the job done more efficiently than anyone else) or technology (ie. you develop cutting-edge products or services that can't be copied by anyone else).

    Good luck!

    Ken
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That's the great thing about our particular location and niche. Our target is 25-55 year olds who actually have cash to spend, but don't want to spend it unwisely. Quality products and people willing to pay for our knowledge as racers as to what products are just bling and what products work on the race track. Intimacy, in that you can come and hang and gain knowledge from us even if you are only there to buy a single item. (this can work against you also) and lastly hours, most mod-shops are open 9-5p, most folks I know work til 5pm so our niche would be operating during hrs like 3-10pm when folks are most likely to go spend their money.

    Keep the suggestions coming.

    -mike
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Create a professional brand image for your business, and use it consistently on invoices, letterhead, webpage, business cards... everywhere you can and as soon as you can! Don't wait 'til after your business is official launched, get it done right away. Be willing to pay (or barter!) for a graphic designer who knows what they're doing. An amateurish image makes you look like an amateur.

    Save up some money to consistently advertise. Most local businesses that I see fail do not do this. It takes some bucks to get your name out there in front of people, and to have advertisements that stand out, but don't be afraid to spend. If it's done right, you'll get your results. :)

    Sounds exciting. Good luck to you, and GO FOR IT!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yup been on that for years already actually, and we've been a vendor on NABISCO forever! :)

    -mike
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,398
    mike,

    You need to determine if the market out there is really big enough to support you. Figure out what income you would like, break that down to monthly/weekly/daily numbers, add overhead costs. Can you bring in that amount day-in and day-out? It's cool to chew the fat with other auto buffs, but how much will each of them spend annually with YOU? Can you charge enough in hourly labor to make the income you'd like? How many hours per day will be billable? (I.e. You are actually able to charge someone for your time. It's bad if you are there 7 hours but only able to bill for three hours of labor!)

    Is your local Subaru community big enough to support you?

    Best of Luck!

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That is the key questions I think I have to work out. Luckily here in the NY/NJ Metro area, incomes are higher, and the market is fairly large. Even when we were doing it part time we were able to make a decent income off it, the problem wasn't customer or billable hours, it was more the number of hours in a day/week we could do the work along with our day-jobs.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    There is a Miata tuner in NoVA near me, and they installed my first new soft top (I installed the 2nd one myself when it was vandalized).

    They sort of converted over to regular car maintenance when the Miata aftermarket died down. So he does oil changes and stuff now.

    I would offer those services as well. While less sexy, it's one way to get repeat business.

    If a guy is happy with his WRX' aftermarket exhaust, then he'll bring his wife's minivan in for service, too. And that type of work is more consistent.

    Less sexy, perhaps, but more consistent.

    I would also work on some disclaimers, i.e. limit the things you cover to the things you work on, or a full refund. A few blown engines can put you out of business.

    Good luck.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Thanks for the input. I'll have to get the wife to look into the disclaimer side, since she's a lawyer it should be relatively easy for her to whip up some disclaimers! :)

    Looking into some other jobs too that would allow me to build it a bit before jumping in full time, but would allow more time than my current position.

    -mike
  • toboggantoboggan Member Posts: 283
    Become either an S-Corp or Limited Liability Corp (LLC) for liability protection from possible lawsuits. Doesn't cost all that much and can give piece of mind.

    Toboggan
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    I've been venturing as well and have hit all of these points. Looking to put up a restaurant here in GA. It's alot of work Mike, but if you're willing to stick it out, your passion determines your business. I took a trip to NY awhile back and met with some restaurant owners and got alot of insight on the do's and don't's. Finalizing the business plan as I type, now looking for a designer/architect to layout the setting and put it in the business plan for the bank. All this is time consuming and if there's anything that I've learned that I can share also, is "don't rush into anything". Take your time, find the right business people, location, advertising, etc. I've already pushed back my opening target date twice...
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Good to hear from you buddy. That's great and I will definitely look into these things that everyone has been shouting out. It's a tough road and I'm not 100% sure I want to venture down it just yet, still exhausting a few other items before I jump in feet first. Having run my computer consulting corp since 1996, I've learned a lot of things that I didn't do so well in that business that I'd do different this time around. I still have that Inc. so I'd probably run AZP as a sub of that business to make things simpler.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Saw this movie with the kids over the weekend, and I gotta, say, it just didn't live up to all the hype. It just seemed very monotonous.

    I don't like musicals, so maybe that's it. Plus my kids couldn't tell most of the characters apart.

    Is Flushed Away any better? Anyone seen that?

    -juice
  • css1css1 Member Posts: 247
    Hi Elmer,

    A year ago you helped me locate an ethical dealer here in NJ - again I thank you, though I would like to return the favor.

    I started my own business a year ago - I am a factory rep for lighting and architectural products. My focus is Hospitality, specifically restaurants. If there is any way I can help you let me know.

    Paisan,

    Keep the passion, don't be afraid to fail and if the business does fail don't be stubborn and pull out while you still have capital, reorganize and try again. Most successful business today are not the result of first attempts.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Hey Charlie,

    I actually remember that! :) I'm glad things worked out at the dealer for you. Let's exchange email addresses; I'd like to learn more about what you do and how it will help my business ;)

    Mike,

    Handle your business buddy (no pun intended). If you're toying with the idea then do it. There's nothing worse than desiring to do something for yourself then regret not doing it. AZP sounds like a great place to start and you already have a clientel.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Definitely think I will give it a shot if a few of my other "dream" jobs don't pan out. With that said... any web/e-commerce folks out there in the Subaru community interested in some side biz? Shoot me an e-mail and let's see if we can get some biz going.

    -mike
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    anyone take a close look at this one? Saw a new one, red, in a parking lot today. Sharp city. At first I thought it must have been one of the new Mazdas.

    John
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    John- Go back thru the last 80 or so posts and you'll see what a hit the Caliber is with the Crew ;)

    -Frank
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    yea, drive one and you won't find any Zoom Zoom...just Zzzzzzzz.
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    I was supposed to have one as a rental when I dropped off my GT at the body shop on Monday. At 6 feet tall, I hit my hip on the doorjamb getting in and out. I wasn't impressed with the interior layout, either. So I got my next 'favorite' choice, a PT Cruiser.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Funny thing is the next EVO is going on that same platform. So is the 3 row Outlander crossover.

    Talk about a flexible platform!

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I'm still scared ****less. :P

    ~Colin
  • css1css1 Member Posts: 247
    Hi Elmer ,

    You can reach me at cpp788x@aol.com

    Charlie
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Emailed you...

    Thanks.
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Anyone heard what's shakin' at NASIOC? The site's been down since some time last evening.
  • css1css1 Member Posts: 247
    Edmonds Inside Line showed that there would be an unvailing on the 29th of a "new " Subaru at the LA show.

    This morning it was gone - Did Subaru pull this prototype/new car from the show???
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    All SOA did was announce that Travis Pastrana got an extended contract and some other rally-related news.

    Bob
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    it's back. Pipeline problem, apparently. But at least it remembers who I am ;)
  • css1css1 Member Posts: 247
    Thanks,
    I bet we don't see all the new models until NY.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    ISP Up-pipe issue. Nick is going to be going to co-location soon when he moves from FLA to MA.

    -mike
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    I was anticipating an unveiling, not a press release. *sigh* As far as auto shows go, Subaru is one boring company.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    We'll see either the '08 Tribeca or Legacy at Detroit next month.

    Bob
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    It would be interesting to know how many Edmunds Subaru Crew regulars freqnet other Subie sites as well.

    Ken
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    LGT. Rob M
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    This was an off year, sort of.

    Every model pretty much just carried over. They added aux inputs, satellite radio, shuffled options packages, and that's about it.

    The STI Limited is new and the spec.B changed, but unless you're in the market for one of those there wasn't any news from Subaru at the auto shows.

    Next year should be big. 2 new models and a refresh for the Leg.

    -juice
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Refresh for Legacy will be worthless for me unless they do something about the available color combos. We would've been in for a new OB this year, but there's no combo that works for us. The light interior is too light for regular use w/kids, and the dark interior is only available in the two-tone silver or black exterior. Black looks nice, but isn't practical for a car that gets parked outside every day in the Puget Sound rain. Don't wanna spend half my free time washing. That narrows it to one choice, the two-tone silver, which we don't like the looks of. Maybe if it was monotone.

    They either offer so many combos it costs them too much money ('06 B9 Tribeca), or they offer little choice at all. How 'bout some middle ground here, SOA? And no form of red available at all in any Legacy, Outback or Tribeca? C'mon.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They change the color lineup every year, just about. Let's see.

    -juice
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Even the JDM colors were the same this year, with the exception of the Diamond Gray Metallic. I'd probably like that color (in monotone) on an OB... or monotone crystal gray.
    JDM 3.0R Legacy wagon available in Black, dark gray, dark silver, light silver, white, dark blue or medium blue. Black & gray make up 4 out of 7 colors? Two blues? Basically you've got shades of black, shades of blue, and white.
    Looking at that, I worry our color selection will get worse. And I'm a person that likes gray.
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Nabisco, forester, and rs25. Not the forester so much any more, obviously. And rs25 is not always great, as more and more RS's leave the hands of competent Subie people and into the hands of the young uncle ben's set.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I like the Tribeca's colors, like the seafoam and that maroonish color.

    -juice
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    So tell me again what's wrong with the Mini? If you want something small and sporty that handles well, doesn't break the bank and can fit the family... then the Mini seems like a pretty good fit. Sure it won't hold much else besides the family but then you don't buy a convertible if you're looking for practical :) Sounds like you and the Missus need to get on the same page regarding what the Miata's replacement should be ;)

    a. Fun car for Juice to commute to work in and to bee bop around town with the family on a sunny day or...

    b. Practical transportation that the family can take to the beach and that holds the prodigious amounts of stuff that Mrs. Juice insists on taking. Oh and that has a big hole in the roof :P

    -Frank
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