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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The HIDs are nice. $137 from Amazon.com Took me about 2hrs to install them. Fairly plug and play.

    Anything behind the B pillar is legal in NY.
    20% on the front 2 side windows isn't but I only got a few tickets over the years for it. The 20% against the pearl white really does look great. Only thing left really is for me to replace the fog bulbs with yellow ones and then the car will be about 90% done. May get a Cobb AP for it to cut down on the rich burn condition that I get cause it dumps fuel when you are over 4k rpms. Makes the exhaust pipes all black. I'm all gadgeted up too with my Garmin 670 and Escort 9500i as well. The 9500i with GPS is great you can lockout a signal and it will remember it the next time you go through the area, it does a combo GPS location + Radar Frequency lockout, so if a cop decides to sit right where the other signal is you still get the cop one but not the one you locked out.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    The engine is a EJ25STI 2.5L AVCS Twin-Scroll Turbo unit, with 276+ hp and 253+ lb-ft.

    I believe this is the first time the "twin-scroll turbo" has been used in the 2.5 engine. The 2.0 turbos have had it for some time.

    Bob
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,718
    We need one of those in a wagon.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Tom - Subaru's had push button start in Japan for a year or two now, just not stateside. It's a keyless access/pushbutton start combo. Never have to fumble with carkeys/keyfobs again! I believe I read that, with the new Impreza STI, the system didn't make it to the US because of additional crash testing that would be required.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    They need to bring it.... I would be so ready for one... but hopefully they'll introduce it with the rumored Tribeca chassis (more space?).

    Bob, is your source certain that the Forester 09 is NOT coming in MT. That's going to be another big mistake from Subaru :(
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    They might need to bring it before then just to maintain interest in what will soon be the stalest model in the lineup.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Bob, is your source certain that the Forester 09 is NOT coming in MT. That's going to be another big mistake from Subaru?

    Yes.

    Subaru's Detroit show announcement on the Forester is Sunday (tomorrow!) at 2:55 - 3:20. So we'll "officially" get all the nasty facts then.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Just spoke to a source as well, they confirmed that the 09 Forester will only be AT on the Turbos. However they also confirmed that the Outback and Legacy Turbos will retain the MT.

    I also have word that the 2010 Legacy that will have the new platform will be available with the 6MT and 3.6L NA motor the 3.6L Turbo is still being debated.

    -mike
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    That's a bummer we don't have it here. I love the push button start and keyless entry. The key stays in my pocket all day, never take it out. I once forgot to take it out of my pocket at the end of the day and almost washed it!!!

    Not that using a key is so hard, but it is another nice luxury.

    I just noticed that the button is the exact same button in Toyotas and Lexuses- so must be a hand me down from Toyota. ;)

    Mike- that seems cheap for HIDs- my friend just bought them for his LGT- I'll see how they look. How does the GPS link up with the radar detector?

    tom
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Push-button starting a luxury? Seems more like a silly marketing gimmick to me. In addition it's gotta raise the price of the vehicle a bit because of the added complexity. BTW, you still have insert a key, so why not just turn it, as we've always done to start a car?

    This is not an engineering advancement, but rather added complexity for marketing sake. Having said that, Walter Mitty would no doubt love it.

    Bob
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    It's just like power doors and liftgates in vans, it's not necessary, but is appreciated once you have it. My S40 has keyless entry and start, no fumbling with keys. Instead, I can get the kids situated in their seats and then hop in and drive. Certainly, it is not for everyone, you can get the car w/o that system if you wish. Plus, if you have keyless start, you can opt to use the key normally if you so choose.

    One downside of having keyless entry and start is that you then expect other cars to have it as well. I often walk up to our MPV and expect the doors to unlock when I approach or that I don't need to use a key to start the van.

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Push-button starting a luxury? Seems more like a silly marketing gimmick to me. In addition it's gotta raise the price of the vehicle a bit because of the added complexity. BTW, you still have insert a key, so why not just turn it, as we've always done to start a car?

    Really? On the Nissans you only need have the fob in the vicinity of the car to start it or open the doors. I would think the Subaru system is the same. Also it's not really any more complex of a system as the chipped key found in most cars today does the same thing, the only "extra" you would have would be the wire going to that push-button. We've installed similar systems on race cars where we don't need a key anymore.

    For instance if your ignition is broken into and the key cylinder is malled you basically tape your key to the steering column which allows the chip to unlock the system and a screw driver to turn the broken cylinder to start the car.

    It'll eventually make it over similar to many other features found in cars today.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Mike- that seems cheap for HIDs- my friend just bought them for his LGT- I'll see how they look. How does the GPS link up with the radar detector?

    The Escort 9500i actually has a GPS chip inside it. It's really neat, I plan to do a full writeup for my blog on edmunds about it shortly!

    On the HIDs, if your buddy wants help to install em, let me know and I can give him a quick writeup on what I did (if he's using the Xentec kit I got off Amazon).

    I may have to get a set for my fogs and highbeams too.

    -mike
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Ahh, that makes sense. I was wondering how the two hooked up!

    I'll ask him what kit he bought- thanks for the offer of help!

    tom
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think Bob was saying it's not really functional if you still have to insert a key.

    Not having to fumble for a key at all has an obvious benefit. Ask any lady searching for her keys in her purse.

    Power sliding doors on minivans are a gift from the heavens. Awesome, and very useful any time we drive home late at night and the kids fall asleep. Imagine carrying an 80 lbs child in your arms and still having to fumble to close a heavy door.
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Now that sounds like it will be fun.

    I have to admit that a lot of times I miss having the MT. Except when I'm sitting at a crawl on the road; then I'm content to leave it in "D" and take it easy.

    Mark
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I hope they don't use the STI name here in the US.

    STI should be that drivetrain. Just keep the spec.B name if it's not the same engine.
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    "I hope they don't use the STI name here in the US. "

    That would work for me. I prefer having something a bit more "camouflaged" for my car- catch less attention that way. Until it's needed that is :) .

    Mark
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Yeah, but the Impreza STi is the same- 2.0L in japan with a twin scroll turbo, 2.5L here with the "regular" turbo.

    I personally like the larger displacement engine we have here.

    Oh yeah, Bob, the keyless thing. It really seems kina "foo-foo" at first and I agree it's not like turning the key is such a difficult thing, but it's nice not having to fumble around in my pocket for the keys every time.

    Try it, I'm sure you'll like it! :D

    tom
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think it should share the powertrain for the US-spec STI, including the AWD system.

    That would help STI keep its identity.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yeah, I think it would be a waste to just put the STi motor w/o the trans and front LSD and variable center diffy in there as well.

    I wouldn't be suprised to see the Spec B in 2009 get the 08 STi drivetrain (engine and trans and diffys and VDC)

    -mike
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Yeah, it's like Nissan's... no need to insert the key in the door or the ignition. Just have it on you.

    I can't tell you how many times I've had my arms full of groceries or other stuff, trying to keep my kid close to me in the parking lot (in the pouring rain, naturally) while I'm trying to dig through my various pockets for the keyfob. To make it worse, we've got 2 identical keyfobs for our 2 Subies, so I can't even tell by feel if I have the right fob. I'd like the push-button start and would be willing to pay a few hundred extra for it. :blush:
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Don't know if you guys saw the post over at Nabisco but someone who works at a dealer shared this little info; of course, take it with a grain of salt:

    pricing will be $38k base and almost $45k with all the goodies

    Yes, a newer design engine that they are being a bit shady about releasing details about at this time. But it is a boosted 4 as far as I can tell, although, a boosted h6 is not out of the question, as the dimensions of this car are bigger than current legacys, 3.5" longer and 1.75" wider.


    IF true, I see the H6 Turbo coming in shortly after the 4 and 6 cyl. models. IMO, the think a 4 turbo would be too much work for a heavier/larger vehicle. Yes, we see it in the RDX but it's not as performance oriented as the Leg will be. Whatever they do, I hope Subaru takes advantage of their length increase by giving us more interior volume (in the right places).
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The H6t has not been confirmed yet, or so say my SOA contacts. The H6 3.6L NA will put out right around 300hp maybe 305hp. Problem up to this point has been the ATs weren't strong enough to handle the true power that the 3.6L engine can put out. My guess is that they will have either a new AT or CVT to handle the power and a 6MT option. I'm looking forward to when the new leg comes, I'll be first in line if there is (and there will be) more interior room.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If I had to hazzard a guess on the power for the new leg:

    2.5L H4 Direct Injection with about 180-190hp
    3.6L H6 NA putting out about 300-305hp
    3.6t H6 Turbo putting out about 375-390hp (if they decide to bring it)

    -mike
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Hmmm.... DI for the next model? Are you holding out on us? :-p
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    direct injection should be here by the MY10, they've been talking about it for a while.

    -mike
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    I know.. just haven't seen any update on it. Something about dated information, Subaru missing the boat, something, something.... :)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    haaa, from what I've been told the next Leg will be very nice and big enough for my fat butt to fit in. :) I'm holding out for it right now.

    -mike
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Well, if you fit, rest assured I will fit ;)

    Unfortunately, I won't be able to wait another 1+ yrs :(
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I wouldn't be surprised if the JDM models show up within the next year or less, as usually the Japanese market gets the car well before we do.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    The following was posted over at nabisco last summer:

    _________________

    There was an article on nikkan.co.jp that seems to have disappeared from the website, but here is my summary:

    • FHI - To Introduce Its Next-Gen Direct Injection Engine As Early as 2009
    In as early as 2009, FHI plans to introduce its direct injection gasoline engine in the FMC Legacy.

    • One merit of direct injection engines is fuel consumption efficiency.

    • The issues being worked out now are injector costs and NOX counter measures related to lean burn.

    • FHI's goal is to improve fuel efficiency and increase power output simultaneously and become the flagship for environmental engineering.

    • On the topic of stricter fuel consumption regulations in Japan, America, and Europe, one FHI executive stated: "It's imperative that we get the direct injection engine out to market."

    • FHI will use Piexometric devices in the next-gen engine to precisely manage the injectors and is also reviewing the usage of an EGR cooler.
    www.nikkan.co.jp/hln/nkx0220070614013beao.html

    Edit: found the article on Yahoo Japan- http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20...000007-nkn-ind
    _________________

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Sounds like the minute we buy a Forester they're gonna introduce a CVT model with DI that makes 30 more horses and uses half the gasoline. :cry:
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yup so get buying it already! Ha Ha Ha.

    Speaking of which you coming to SOA to check out the 09 Forester with us on Feb 1? They are probably gonna come for a ride with it through the Pine Barrens too, so we'll see how well it handles some light offroading.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I hope they bring it to the DC Auto Show, if not I'd consider it. The nanny will be back by then.

    I'm crazy busy right now without that help we're accustomed to.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Gotcha. That's why I'm not working too hard to get some kids right now! :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    A-ha! That's the best part!

    Take your time but good luck. Pretty soon you'll have a couple of Bambinos running around and less time for hobbies (like Subies).
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yeah my kids are my cars and boats right now and a few friends who are like adopted kids :)

    Up in Boston training this week, met up with some NESIC folks, always interesting.

    -mike
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    This is so exquisitely off topic but I feel I should share it with you. An unfolding incident in the fairly wild hills near here...

    Man with dog crashes while paragliding

    A paraglider has spent four hours stuck in a tree at Warburton, east of Melbourne.

    The man, with his dog strapped to him, crashed into the tree about 5:00pm AEDT today.

    He called for help on 000 and a climbing team has been making its way towards him, but is having to deal with thick bush.


    The countryside is very wild with dense, very tall (200ft plus) eucalypts on steep sided hills. He is apparently sitting 150ft up one of them and I bet the dog has lost its passion for flying!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Must be a bird dog. :D
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,718
    While the circumstances sound comical, I do hope the rescuers and the paragliders all manage through it safely.

    I can only imagine the terrain; it must be beautiful.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    read these two posts to husband and he said, .. "must be an airedale" ...
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    hee hee. :D

    Any updates, graham?
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    The Emergency services got him down after about five hours. He was intelligent enough to stay where he was perched and to have both a mobile phone and UHF Radio so he could chat to the Police Helicopter that located him and guide them in so they could find him in the first place. Emergency Services had to climb up 150 feet from the ground, get a harness on him and then lower him to the ground. He sounded to be okay although spending a night in hospital.

    The dog turned out to be a chihuahua. We had debated the most suitable dog for flying - Airedale was one suggestion. Beagle (as in Snoopy's imaginings of flying a Sopwith Camel) also featured. Other thoughts were anything with big ears.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Or my dog (cat) Hadji, since he has 9 lives. :D
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,718
    I found out this morning that my... hmmm... let me calculate her relation real quick... step-niece? Is that a relation? :D Anyway, she is a sweet little cute-as-a-button four or five year old. I found out this morning that she was involved in some sort of accident yesterday that left her on fire. Her brother, I am not sure of his age, saw her and managed to get her extinguished, but she is apparently severely burned. She was med-evac'd to the Oregon Burn Center in Portland. :(
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's awful, I hope she's OK.

    My daughter fell during recess and cut her lip and scratched her nose, but that sounds like nothing compared to those burns. :(
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,718
    Yeah, I do not know anything more at this point, but plan to call my mother in the next day or two to learn more. I only just met the little girl and her mother a few months ago when my mother married the girl's grandfather. My son (3 y.o.) and my nephew (also 3 at the time) were both smitten by her and became fast friends. I have never seen my son act so giddy and unsure of himself around another youngin' near his age. It was cute.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    it can be an awful thing to treat and go through treatment ...

    my husband set himself on fire playing with a lighter when he was four and nearly died ... he made it through even 'lo' those 45 years ago ... i'm sure treatment has come a long way since then ...

    hoping for the best of news from you about her ...
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Hoping for a good outcome for this one, there are so many variables with severe burns, shock, infection,keeping the burn victim hydrated to name a few.

    Cheers pat.
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