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Bob
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21814918&postcount=169
Bob
Though I wonder why a knock in engines sold in other markets would affect the 2.5T, given the US-spec engine is unique? :confuse:
Guess they are being careful after the gasket issues.
Bob
-Dave
or take my advice on an H6.
-mike
Found only one used '07 LGT Wgn, blue, with 14k miles for $24k @ Kolbs.
Not my color preference though, but may go for it any way, if it'll still be there by then. Looking for Silver, first choice and White being the second.
H6, but the price plus figuring out the sneaking it lower part with JDM Spec B suspension is giving me a headache :sick:
-Dave
They might even offer a 100k warranty if enough people express a concern.
I wonder if they got a bad batch of oil? Piston rings? :confuse:
-mike
-mike
-Dave
"0.17% of all the cars with 2.5 turbo were affected.
For those who are concerned, they said the noise will be a loud banging noise and not a soft knocking sound.
"
-Dave
Any comments?
That's controlled by the firmware within the unit.
-Dave
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22001531&postcount=391
AND why are copper fragments definitive for the problem? Just what component is involved?
A full disclosure of the problem is needed.
What are my options? Seems like alot of stuff is being done that is not necessary.
-Frank
This S402 was just introduced in Japan. I believe this is the first use of the twin-scroll turbo in the 2.5 engine, which puts out 281 hp.
Also note that it has the same super-quick 13.0:1 steering ratio that's found on the JDM STI. Our STI has a slower 15.0:1 steering ratio—which is still pretty quick.
Bob
This is a brilliant marketing move on Suzuki's part. It's sure to spur other automakers to re-think how they package their NAV units.
I hope Subaru will pick up on this idea, and offer NAV as being standard across the board on all their models. Sooner or later this will be the case, and it would be great if Subaru's climbs on board early rather than late.
Bob
- Market penetration (which Suzuki is addressing): something like only 1.5% of new cars sold have NAV units.
- Price: in-dash units avg price is $2k which is at least double what most people are willing to pay.
- Product development: auto manufacturers with there long product development cycles are not capable of competing with consumer electronics companies and their much faster development and production cycles
- Technology: in-dash units are not intuitive and there needs to be some standardization of the user interface among the auto manufacturers (common button-ology).
In order for in-dash NAV units to become common place, I think the auto manufacturers need to rethink how they offer them. I agree with Bob that making them standard across the line is a step in the right direction but first, they need to get the cost down and come up with a standard user interface. To address the issue of tehcnology obsolescence, I think they should develop a model that is either upgradeable or easily swappable when a newer unit comes out.
-Frank
For that to happen all the players in the NAV game need to unite and agree upon a common platform, much like what we have with computers (Windows and Mac OS).
Also, these car docking units need to be upgradable, so that when new technology occurs, they can be made compatible.
Regardless, what Suzuki is doing is a great leap forward from where we are now.
Bob
I've got 2 portable GPS: an eTrex handheld for GeoCaching (walking) and a Nuvi 200 for our cars. The ability to upload favorite locations, POI, etc on both of these makes them far more useful, IMO. Bigger screens are nice, sure, but not necessary. And by the time car NAV's get the ability to upload POI, etc., the portables will have more useful features. And for less than half the cost of a factory car NAV.
-Brian
I thought the days of letting a turbo idle for 30 seconds before shutting down wee long gone. I guess not.
Bob
-Frank
I think I'll give her this one, and buy myself a Nuvi 680, for the MSN traffic and gas prices.
I've been testing a GPS for a manufacturer (sorry, cannot reveal the name) that has both and I think it would be cool if the info were more up to date. The traffic seems to be about half hour out of date. The gas prices are about a day old.
Still, it's useful as a reference for gas prices. You often find 12 cents/gallon lower prices less than a mile away.
All model lines are up, with the Forester up 49%, thanks to the redesign. Also, Forester wins MT (June issue) crossover SUV comparo.
Bob
The one thing I can't understand is why Legacy sales have picked up dramatically the last couple months. I'm thrilled, as this reaction to Legacy is long overdue, but I'm puzzled. It was overlooked the first few years of this generation, and suddenly near the end of its run sales jump up. There aren't any substantial changes in the product, and there aren't any substantial changes in incentives from previous years. Even the '09s with the new Harman Kardon sound systems aren't out yet to potentially affect sales numbers. ... Anyone have guesses?
Perhaps traditional Legacy buyers do NOT want a larger vehicle that is coming. I'm one of them...driving an 05 VDC Outback. I have sat in the 09 Forester and would choose it over the Outback at this time. With the back seat foot room problem solved, the Forester will probably get most Outback 2.5i wagon buyers. Others may be betting on higher prices for the next Legacy and are not willing to spend more.
The best part is that Forester sales are up 49% and that has not hurt any other model. No cannibalization whatsever.
Just incredible.
What competitors did it beat?
Bob
Obviously the Outlander wasn't included, because otherwise it would have won. Yet another "paid advertisement" by Subaru.
You read me like a book!
Hilarious!
We use it for city driving and some long road trips.
Thanks!