Subaru Crew Cafe

1266267269271272343

Comments

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Anyone ever seen a P0328 code?

    Code reader says it's a pair of P0328 codes - "Knock sensor 1 circuit high input bank 1 or 1 sensor".

    Bad knock sensor?

    Put a "for sale" sign on the minivan? :D;)

    It'll go to the dealer tomorrow but if anyone's seen this, please share.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Aren't you still under warranty on the Sienna? Though you could just clear the code if it is running ok and see if it was just a fluke. It'll come back on again within a day or so if it is bad.

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Bad gas?

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • jeffmcjeffmc Member Posts: 1,742
    Bad gas? Maybe so, but what about the Sienna? :surprise: :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, I had some questionable Thai food the other day...

    Oh, GASOLINE? :D

    I did resest the code, but it comes right back. I'm off to Jim Coleman Toyota. Hope the service there is good...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Grrr! They're ba-aaaaack!

    Old timers will recall I had a problem when chip munks chewed through some ignition wires on my Forester.

    Well, it happened again. This time they chewed up the wiring harness on my Sienna. That's what triggered the MIL.

    New wires and knock sensors will set me back $740, and warranty doesn't cover hungry chipmunks! :cry:

    I cried a bit and they said they'd knock 10% off, but that's still well over $600 because of those stinkin' pests.

    He recommended moth balls.

    I'm thinking "grenade". :D
  • cusafrcusafr Member Posts: 184
    Hey Juice, have you called your insurance? I don't know, but would not hurt to ask?

    cusafr
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Time to get a real cat to chase those chipmunks :P

    Maybe your homeowners insurance would cover it? :confuse:

    What is different about your Miata and new Forester that they stay away from it? Is it where it is parked?

    Time to build a real garage instead of the carport perhaps....

    -Brian
  • leo2633leo2633 Member Posts: 589
    Hey juice,

    I remember the hungry tree rats eating through your Forester wires. I also recall my suggestion about ballistic revenge. Still the same advice!

    Len
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They haven't attacked the Miata, but they did go after my '98 Forester.

    They ate a very small amount of an ignition wire cover from the 2002 Legacy, as well. The 2009 Forester is still intact, thankfully.

    The wife went out and picked up some moth balls, the type that are in a platic container with lots of vents. The smell is supposed to repel the rodents, but I wonder if the moth balls are OK in that hot environment?

    I used some tie-straps and put one in the Miata's engine bay, and so far so good. If anyone thinks this is not a good idea, please share the reasons why. So far it just makes a bit of a smell when I pop the hood.

    I put one on the Forester, too.

    Both are out of harms way, I just wonder if the heat will have any effect, or if it's just not a good idea?

    Call me crazy, call me OCD, but $740 of damage will wake anyone up.

    Insurance deductibles are both $500, so it's not worth making a claim for that small amount, not to mention I don't want to have a 3rd claim on our home owner's policy, certainly not for $240.

    I've asked the Toyota dealer for a mercy discount, we'll see.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    He recommended moth balls.

    I know there's a good joke in there somewhere!! :D
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    A few years ago my next door neighbor had the same problem with his Mazda.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Mothballs and engine heat could cause more than $740 in damage....

    Perhaps peanut butter and traps are a better idea?

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Always thinking of food Mike... Not a good way to lose some weight. :)

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    How? Why? :confuse:

    I checked last night and they're both OK, probably not too close to heat sources.
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    Yep..knock sensor...Michael (who is now officially a college student...we drove him up to UMass at Lowell this past week and he started classes today) had that on the outback...the part was 70 bucks for the Subie version and less than an hour of labor
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Anywhere in the engine compartment is going to be subject to a heat source.

    Chipmunks love Peanut Butter, when it's almost contract time, the line-men smear it on the lines and the chipmunks and squirrels chew the wires up and then they get a better contract. :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    LOL

    Do you think a heat-resistent grease (brake caliper grease?) would repeal the rodents?

    I did negotiate the price down to $681. They had to remove the valve covers to change the knock sensors. I even gave the old valve cover gaskets.

    6 hours of labor, sheesh.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That might work Juice. I'd feel a lot safer with that in there than moth balls.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Edmunds just drove a prototype of the upcoming Acura TL AWD with a 6-speed manual. They drove it against current competitors—and it blew them away.

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

    I sure hope the next-gen spec.B (Legacy STI or whatever...) can match or exceed it.

    I also hope Subaru updates their AWD with a torque-vectoring rear differential, that sends more power to the outside rear wheel while cornering, like what the Acura uses.

    ___________

    At nearly every corner, the SH-AWD was so astute and intelligent that you could literally slap the go pedal to the carpet and let the all-wheel drive sort out how best to put the power to good use. And yes, these optional 245/40ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires (the largest and stickiest of any of the tires in the entire group) really help, but it was in combination with the SH-AWD where the rubber really made a difference. This car carves the corners

    The All-Wheel-Drive Future
    All things considered, Acura has finally put its highly complex and effective SH-AWD system to its best use in the 2010 Acura TL SH-AWD 6MT. This all-wheel-drive technology has always seemed a bit wasted in the MDX and RDX sport-utilities. It belongs in a sport sedan, and it has found a worthy home in the TL.


    ___________

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    If that link doesn't work try this one, folks:

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=132226?tid=edm- unds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#1

    Sounds awesome. I'll take mine in bright silver to as to disguise that oversized shield they call a grille.

    Too bad the RD-X doesn't come in a manual trans. Look at how the TL was transformed.

    Also, they should have tested a G35x, not a G35s.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    What's the MSRP on the TL w/AWD and MT?

    Glad they finally did AWD + MT.

    Also as they noted the tires probably had the most to do with the handling. I wish someone would test cars with the same tires on all them so that we would know if it were the tires or the car producing the results.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    The car is still a year out, so no MSRP has been announced.

    Having said that, in the past I believe Acura has sold both manuals and automatics at the same price on some models. So I would think the MSRP ( at $38,995 with SH-AWD and $43,235 with Tech Package/High-Performance tires) on the just-introduced TL would be a good indicator. http://www.acura.com/

    As to tires, the approach Edmunds took (actually they probably had no choice since this was a prototype) makes the most sense for most buyers. They used what comes with the car from the factory—which is the way 99.9% of the cars will be delivered to customers.

    Here's Edmunds "First Drive" of the '09 automatic version:

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=130526

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Have they announced the TLS version?

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    That's probably the Tech Package model, as it comes with extra sticky tires.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    ...this time from R&T. They pretty much mirror what Edmunds said.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=6&article_id=7120

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That's probably the Tech Package model, as it comes with extra sticky tires.

    In previous versions the TLS came with 4-pot Brembos, suspension upgrades, and IIRC power upgrades too. Will be intersting to see how it pans out. Likely out of my price range we'll see. Especially now with slightly used cars really coming down in price. I'm looking at possibly an 05-06 E55 AMG with sub 36k miles for under $40k, depending on how the new 2010 Legacy comes out.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    mike - what I heard is that the FWD TL replaced the old "base" TL, and that the SH-AWD model replaces the TL-S.

    So the AWD in the review is basically the TL-S. It even gets a bigger engine.

    It took a manual trans for it to really shine, though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bob - that one wrecked WRX sort of looks like yours now. ;)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    mike - what I heard is that the FWD TL replaced the old "base" TL, and that the SH-AWD model replaces the TL-S.

    So the AWD in the review is basically the TL-S. It even gets a bigger engine.

    It took a manual trans for it to really shine, though.


    Interesting. Unfortunately it will probably be out of my price range with my cap being about $36k. Focusing on the 2010 Legacy and 2009 G8 GXP.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman Works. I think they are the hotness, now that the Works package is factory and has some stuffing. And pretty much 180 degrees from this Camry.

    Outback is back from the body shop, but also back from the mechanic, where she got a bunch of new sensors and a new steering rack Yay! :sick: And here it is a week later and there is some new leaky something up front, so back to the shop Thursday. :sick: :sick:

    (these 2 sentiments are not connected. We are fixing the Outback and keeping it for years to come. I was just fantasizing about not having a company whip there for a sec on the first part)
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    The Cooper base is the only one that I've driven and it is a hoot to drive. Not a bad car to think about.

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Not to spoil the fun but I saw one go headon into the wall at The Glen last weekend and I'm not sure I'd want to drive one in a populated area....

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I will check out the new convertible when it comes out.

    The old one's rear seat was uninhabitable. Almost no leg room, but even worse the back rest was bolt-upright and the kids felt like they were sitting at the bottom of a deep well.

    Let's see if the new one is packaged better.

    A manual S convertible would be a feasible replacement for my Miata - IF the kids can actually sit in there.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    It's Thursday and that means time again for the longest running chat here in CarSpace, the Subaru Crew! The chat opens at 8:45 pm ET and runs until 10 pm ET. I hope you're able to join us tonight for another enjoyable evening with members of the Crew!
    See you there!


    Food talk IS a requirement! :P
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    any update on a Subaru hybrid? The outback soaked up $2400 so far this month, and now it looks to me like the main seal is letting go....lots of oil under the car this morning. We'll fix it of course, the car is in good shape over all, but it has initiated the thought process about pulling it from front line duty and getting something newer for Kirsten. Put the OB out to pasture, keep miles off it, and use it for when we need a wagon. Vacations, Home Depot, bicycles etc.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Nope. Not a word on Subie hybrid plans Loosh.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Sign me up for the first XTI to come off the line! Oh wait... as usual, we'll never see it here in the US :cry:

    I like the Mountain Rescue concept too although it does look slightly like an Xterra.

    -Frank
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,726
    I could forgo the hideous paint, but otherwise, the MR concept would be the one for me. Though, Frank, if you get ahold of the XTI, give me a call. I wouldn't mind a ride... :blush:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Wes- Hey no problem. I'll drive over to your place in my XTI and then we can go 4-wheelin in your MR :P
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    And that brings up an issue I've always thought about. Why isn't there a manufacturer suspension upgrade option for the XT available in N. America? I know you can install the STi parts, but many people like to keep their vehicle "factory". A faster Forester without improved handling didn't appeal to me, that's why I'll get an X if I buy one. It was the suspension and handling improvements to the 09 WRX which got my attention, not the extra power.
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    couldn't agree more, especially given how difficult it turned out to be to accomplish in the aftermarket. I gave up on my 04 and put it back to stock
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    So the STi bars and struts aren't just bolt on? I thought that they were.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I know the guy who built both those.

    In fact, a little secret is SOA got the idea from a guy who showed up at last year's 48hrs with a lifted 1992 Legacy Wagon, I mean lifted like 13" lifted!

    As for "bolt ons" you can put on STi springs but my guess is that the forester is like the outback is to the legacy. We just did a suspension upgrade on an OBXT and let me tell yah it's not all peaches and cream doing suspension work on it, while legacy parts fit, there are some things that don't work so well.

    For instance we tried to do Koni inserts and they don't insert into the OBXT struts due to longer tubes. We put coilovers on it and while they fit, the up-ward travel of a lowered OBXT causes issues. I'd imagine similar issues with the forester as well.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
Sign In or Register to comment.

Your Privacy

By accessing this website, you acknowledge that Edmunds and its third party business partners may use cookies, pixels, and similar technologies to collect information about you and your interactions with the website as described in our Privacy Statement, and you agree that your use of the website is subject to our Visitor Agreement.