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  • quadcabdodge27quadcabdodge27 Member Posts: 1
    Bob,
    Do you still have access to the above mentioned article? If so please let me know, I am very interested in finding out more information on the two-tier tailgate, prior to 2004!

    Thanks,
    Angie
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    edited July 2012
    No I don't Angie.

    As I recall, the mid-size GM pickups had a tailgate that opened flat (like all pickups), and could also open partially, so that 4x8 panels could be laid flat.

    If you have one of those trucks, I think it's just a matter of adjusting the 2 straps that support the tailgate. I think there are 2 positions from which you can choose: one that allows it to lay flat (the default position), and one in which the tailgate will only drop 55 degrees.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I didn't want the leather steering wheel ... and it was always a pain to keep clean

    How DO you clean a leather steering wheel?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Ouch! You know that hurt. How many Gs did he feel decelerating that quickly?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited July 2012
    Tint is very common in Brazil, almost universal. My brother's Focus has film on the windshield.

    Yup.

    Front and front sides have limits, on the rest limo tint in OK.

    One of the main reasons to get it there is for privacy - kidnappings are common.

    That's nothing, though. My brother is a judge, and his best friend it also. His buddy's Toyota Hilux SW4 has the full armor, i.e. bullet proofing. I opened the windows and they were more than an inch thick!

    From the outside it looks stock. Great conversion job.
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    How DO you clean a leather steering wheel?

    I used a wet scrubber-sponge (e.g. ScotchBrite) to get the surface gunk off, then a leather/vinyl cleaner. Hated it. Standard steering wheel I have now? Simple spray-foam glass-surface cleaner and a paper towel do the job.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Host
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Won't that scratch the leather? I guess I'll go real soft and get progressively tougher with it.
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    I just use leather cleaner on a rag, same thing as leather seats. It's always worked fine for me.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I guess it's built up. Remember I clean the van once a year, whether it needs it or not. ;)
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Won't that scratch the leather? I guess I'll go real soft and get progressively tougher with it.

    Here's why I did it that way... your hand is going to have far more sweat and dirt on it than your body (which is generally clothed), so a leather wheel will see more actual dirt than most leather seats. The leather wheel in my 96 Ram was constantly covered in a dirt-film from my hands - not unlike the layer of gunk you always had to remove from the mouse ball contacts to keep them rolling freely.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Host
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    You can do worse than get some saddle soap on a damp cloth. rub it all over then buff off. Amazing how much direct comes off. The saddle soap has a mild soap, with beeswax and other stuff in it. Routinely used for cleaning saddlery and horse gear, keeping it supple. When we had small children, I reckoned well washed old towelling nappies (diapers to you) were the very best cloths to use.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We may still have some cloth diapers left. Kept them as rags once the kids were potty trained.

    Saddle soap, I'll try that. Where can you get that here in the US?
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    Any western store or place that sells real hiking boots will have it.

    Can't fling a dead cat without hitting a Tractor Supply store in Kansas. :blush:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They have those not too far. Or maybe I'll check out an REI next time I stop by one.
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    awesome!! :D
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    ...uses 190 hp 2.5L Subie engine & CVT!

    http://mavericklsa.com/index.html

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    edited July 2012
    While this looks cool and fun, the main purpose here was to help people located where there are no roads, or where access is very difficult. Think 3rd World, etc., situations. It's all explained on the web site.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Skim it over the water with an add-on ski, and it could be a vehicle for all 3 (water, land, air). :D
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    You might want to send this link to your dad, as I'm sure it would be useful in the jungles of Belize, to reach hard to get to villages in emergencies.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    He retired long ago. Almost a decade now.

    His dune buggy gets him around Brazilian beaches just fine. :shades:
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    edited July 2012
    Did not know he had retired. I was thinking, not of him per say, but rather local relief and aid organizations that he might be in touch with.

    Did you see all the model variations? There's even one with a STI engine!

    Maverick - Ultimate Roadable, All-Terrain, Aerial Vehicle (URATAV)
    o Propeller- and wheel-drive has full capability; flight, roadable, and off-road. This is the ultimate Maverick.

    Maverick - High-Performance Aerial Vehicle (HPAV)
    o Propeller-drive only; reduces vehicle weight by approximately 100 pounds (45kg) for greater useful load in flight.
    o The HPAV is fully ground-capable, but limited to propeller drive in ground operations and is intended for operations where flight is of greatest utility and ground use is ancillary.

    Maverick - High-Performance, Roadable, All-Terrain Vehicle (HPRATV)
    o Ground-drive only; this vehicle is designed for high-performance on- and off-road. This model can be retrofitted for flight capability at a later date.

    Maverick - Xtreme Roadable Vehicle (XTRV)
    o The Extreme Performance Roadable Maverick; at under 1000 pounds and more than 300hp has perhaps the lowest weight-to-horsepower ratio of any road-legal car available to the public.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    How long of a runway does it need to take off and land? Wonder if it could take off from a sandy beach?
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,706
    From the sounds of it, the XTRV should be able to perform a vertical takeoff! :surprise:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Belize would get these big tropical storms. I think one of those would end up in Mexico if you were out when a storm picked up.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    I think Crew members may be interested in this new discussion. One in particular. ;)

    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f25f054

    Please stop by when you can!
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Member Posts: 1,798
    2009 Forester is chugging along and is approaching 5 years.

    But it looks like the 2014 Forester will be showing up next spring.
    Am hoping Subaru will refine the XT version's interior, transmission, and side collision strength.

    Comments?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Early image:

    http://imageshack.us/a/img7/1679/8189d0473377.jpg

    Looks good, evolution of the current model. Interior will be the Impreza's, which added some soft touch materials but still isn't upscale.

    Should have a CVT. Question is, what engines?
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    edited October 2012
    More images of the '14 Forester. These are JDM-spec models, which should go on sale over there next month.

    http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/10/scoop-all-new-2014-subaru-forester.html

    The one with the vertical air vents on the outside edges of the front bumper is the turbo XT model. Note that the XT no longer has a hood scoop. The XT also has different wheels and a chrome molding around the the side windows (black one on lower right photo behind the silver one).

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    FMIC, then.

    The non-turbo looks better but at least it's functional.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,706
    Doesn't look as nice as the current model, but I agree with the author: "the new Forester looks like a more modern, or evolutionary, if you prefer, interpretation of the current model. "

    I'd still buy one if they offered it with the diesel..... ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    FMIC - exactly what I was thinking. That makes FMIC much more likely for the next gen WRX and STi then.....good news for the aftermarket crowd.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I'd hold off on commenting on the styling, as spy photos rarely if ever look good. I'm sure it will look good in person, as Subarus almost always look better in the flesh.

    Bob
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,706
    edited October 2012
    Yeah, maybe. The Impreza spy shots weren't wrong, and there was even "camouflage" on those! They look fine enough in person.

    Again, I think it is a good evolution, but loses the smoothness of the current gen.

    It certainly isn't a Gen 3-to-4 Outback change, which was like a slap in the face.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,706
    We had a couple inches of snow yesterday, which will likely stick around for the next six months barring any unusually warm weather in the next few weeks.

    Ironically, I didn't get to drive my new car on the first snow day of the year, as I had just put the winter tires on the Forester on Sunday, and a dealership had cross-threaded one of the lug nuts last April when I had new shoes put on it. So, I took the Forester in to the shop yesterday morning and asked them to replace that stud and nut, which they did no-questions-asked.

    I'll say again... this is a dealership! And, it's a Ford dealership servicing my Subaru. It's like pulling teeth at the Subaru dealership. :sick: I've had nothing but great service at the Ford shop, so kudos to them.

    Any how, I drove the Forester in the snow yesterday, but took my Fiesta to work this morning. It was an interesting drive. The rear end was rather wiggly in the soft snow, which is not something I'm used to feeling, so it will take a little adjusting. That said, rear-end wiggle might translate to a highly tossable ride under the right conditions, so I'm looking forward to finding some isolated road and playing with it a little to get comfortable with it at my first opportunity. :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'm in the process of getting new tires for the Sienna minivan. Won't make it through the winter.

    Of course I'll just steal my wife's Forester keys when I can. :shades:
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Wait, let me see if I've got this straight. SHE wanted the minivan, but YOU ended up driving it? Not in my household. She drives the Sienna, I drive the Subi.
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    LOL, well good on you Steve. I can't hardly make my wife drive the Audi, but then again I do 99% of the driving when we are together anyway.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    I'm just razzing Juice. Truth is Beth has never warmed up to the OBW, and loves her minivans (all 4 that we've owned). When we are together, I drive - and 99% of the time its the van. When apart, she drives the van by choice.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,706
    I really prefer that my wife drive the Forester just because it is far more sure-footed in winter driving, and she's never been a fan of such conditions. When roads are dry, she likes to drive my Fiesta.

    We tend to go with the "what is most practical?" argument when deciding who drives what. If I'm home and she just needs transportation, she takes the Fiesta. If I need cargo capacity, I'll take the Forester.

    Of course, this is a new development! When I had the Escort, she wouldn't be caught dead driving it (or riding in it, for that matter!). :sick:
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    edited October 2012
    That's interesting to hear your wife wasn't keen on the Outback Steve. Rita never was happy with the Titan either. That was the reason I reluctantly sold when I did, we downsized to one car and Rita was never comfortable driving the Titan. I figured that was a recipe for disaster so the Subie had to go.
    I am happy to report though that the guy who bought it is as car obsessed as I am. I also got way over black book value when I sold.

    Cheers Pat.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Hey Pat. We had a pair of Toyota wagons (Camry & Corolla) prior to the OBW, yet she never had any objections to driving those. Somehow, the Subi just doesn't work for her. She complains about the seats, visibility, ride compliance, etc., and is very happy to get back into the van.

    Of the 4 vans we've had, the '02 Honda Odyssey remains her favorite. She likes the Sienna way better than either of the new Honda or Toyota vans, however, so I guess this one is here to stay for a while.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It's a long story.

    Neither of us wanted a minivan, but we knew we could benefit from the room.

    She actually test drove one as far back as 2002, but there was no way. She got the Legacy wagon back then. That's about as big as she'd go.

    Then it was my turn, but I didn't want to drive a van daily, so I compromised and agreed to get one only if I could have a roadster, so I got the NA Miata.

    Then I got the minivan. Later I replaced the Miata with a new one (NC).

    So the Miata is actually my daily, the van never was.

    She drove the Legacy, traded for a 2009 Forester.

    The van is the kids' car, we joke. We only use it when they're coming along with us.

    It works for us. The Miata is actually a pretty good city car, for point and squirt driving, fits in small spaces, doesn't use too much gas.

    The van is quieter and smoother on the highway, happier on long trips, when we need the space.

    I could never drive a minivan daily. It's way too overkill for city driving.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Steve, somewhat of a comparison, before the Subaru we had a 93 Accord wagon somewhat similar size to the Subie. Rita drove this wagon all summer long for a number of years, I had my own car which was winter stored. Then we decided to go to one car after we gave up the cottage.

    But Rita felt that the Subie was too big for her, go figure, and just didn't feel comfortable driving it. So came a reluctant sale since she wasn't comfortable we both felt it was a disaster waiting to happen if she was driving something she wasn't happy in.

    Cheers Pat.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Member Posts: 1,798
    Subaru recently let various auto journalists test drive 2014 Forester mules at their Japanese test track. Consensus was the 2014's a big improvement over the current Forester, with more room, more power, better fuel economy, nicer interior, and stronger structure. Subaru also added improvements to the AWD system, and lets the turbo version use regular gas! :)

    http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-subaru-forester-first-drive-review

    is typical of the reviews.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Don't think I'd seen that one.

    We've shared a few links in the Future Models thread, if you want to join that conversation. :shades:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,706
    I'm not overly impressed at this point. I like the steering/handling improvements. The visual changes are "meh" - it looks like a smaller version of the Outback, which is terribly ugly. I think they did a better job with the Forester's look, but all the nitpicky stuff I hate on the Outback is there on the Forester, too.

    The only thing that really piques my interest is the turbo 2-liter, but you can't get it with a manual, so then my interest fades. That's okay, though. My current Forester is still new. There's always the next generation.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Just returned from my annual week long opportunity to hobnob with my fellow wizards in the field of microelectronics failure analysis, this time in Phoenix. Just imagine 900+ geeks all under one roof! Amazing and terrible, all at the same time.... Characters from "The Big Bang Theory" brought to life.

    So, this year's crop of rentals:

    In NY (home to JFK) - 2013 Chevy Sonic. Detested it at first, but came to appreciate that it's at least a fair/good value for the asking price. Did OK on upstate highways, reasonable in congested driving. Indicated fuel economy of around 30 mpg over 100+ miles.

    Phoenix (6 days) - 2013 Ford Focus. Very impressive. Interior room / comfort / trunk room / electronics. Huge letdown - the dry box automatic. Lift off the brake at a stoplight, and you are treated to a stuttering clutch experience until you get to about 5 mph. Shifting was nasty when cold, but became acceptable when warmed up. Never better than acceptable.....

    NY (trip home) - 2012 Ford Escape. Last of the old model. Feels way better than the earlier versions I've driven over the 10+ years, but it will not be missed....
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